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	<title>Comments on: Poll: Which World Series team do you support?</title>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/poll-world-series-supports-5300/#comment-186830</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;my point was the facts as they stand right now actually back up Mike’s side of the argument.&lt;/b&gt;

Except, you know, for that one huge fact that Joba has been a dominant starter already.  That fact trumps the other &quot;facts&quot; that the Joba-to-the-pen crowd want to use.  By far.

The fact that Joba has been a starter and a dominant one means he should be a starter and we should keep him on track to be a starter FOREVER.  I used to say that I&#039;d need to see maybe three or four more solid years of Joba not being physically able to throw 200 innings in a season before I gave up on him as a starter.  Now, that&#039;s not enough.  I don&#039;t want to see him move to the bullpen until he&#039;s on the tail end of his career, Terry Mulholland and Rick Aguilera style.

Think about this:  Curt Schilling was (besides a massive douchenozzle) one of the truly great pitchers of our generation, and he helped the Diamondbacks and Red Sox win three titles this decade.  If Mike Francesa was the GM of the Phillies, Curt Schilling would have been converted into Troy Percival long before he ever had the chance to become Curt Schilling.

Would you rather have Curt Schilling or Troy Percival?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>my point was the facts as they stand right now actually back up Mike’s side of the argument.</b></p>
<p>Except, you know, for that one huge fact that Joba has been a dominant starter already.  That fact trumps the other &#8220;facts&#8221; that the Joba-to-the-pen crowd want to use.  By far.</p>
<p>The fact that Joba has been a starter and a dominant one means he should be a starter and we should keep him on track to be a starter FOREVER.  I used to say that I&#8217;d need to see maybe three or four more solid years of Joba not being physically able to throw 200 innings in a season before I gave up on him as a starter.  Now, that&#8217;s not enough.  I don&#8217;t want to see him move to the bullpen until he&#8217;s on the tail end of his career, Terry Mulholland and Rick Aguilera style.</p>
<p>Think about this:  Curt Schilling was (besides a massive douchenozzle) one of the truly great pitchers of our generation, and he helped the Diamondbacks and Red Sox win three titles this decade.  If Mike Francesa was the GM of the Phillies, Curt Schilling would have been converted into Troy Percival long before he ever had the chance to become Curt Schilling.</p>
<p>Would you rather have Curt Schilling or Troy Percival?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/poll-world-series-supports-5300/#comment-186799</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, I agree and that&#039;s one of the reasons as I stated before. But its safe to assume the club has info we don&#039;t, so just take the stats at face value and draw your own conclusions. 

Anyway, my point was the facts as they stand right now actually back up Mike&#039;s side of the argument. Now just because Joba hasn&#039;t done it yet doesn&#039;t mean he cant or never will, but by taking that tact that puts him on the side of the facts and us on the side of speculation. Solid argument on his part. I still thinks its wrong, but he&#039;s on solid ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, I agree and that&#8217;s one of the reasons as I stated before. But its safe to assume the club has info we don&#8217;t, so just take the stats at face value and draw your own conclusions. </p>
<p>Anyway, my point was the facts as they stand right now actually back up Mike&#8217;s side of the argument. Now just because Joba hasn&#8217;t done it yet doesn&#8217;t mean he cant or never will, but by taking that tact that puts him on the side of the facts and us on the side of speculation. Solid argument on his part. I still thinks its wrong, but he&#8217;s on solid ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/poll-world-series-supports-5300/#comment-186790</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the &quot;I don&#039;t give a shit&quot; option? lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the &#8220;I don&#8217;t give a shit&#8221; option? lol</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe I have to wait 2 weeks to watch the NEXT Prision Break!  Damn playoffs, I haven&#039;t watched the playoffs so far this year and I&#039;m not about to start now.  FOX better get it straight, unless the Yankees are in it, DO NOT mess with Prision Break and House!    AAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe I have to wait 2 weeks to watch the NEXT Prision Break!  Damn playoffs, I haven&#8217;t watched the playoffs so far this year and I&#8217;m not about to start now.  FOX better get it straight, unless the Yankees are in it, DO NOT mess with Prision Break and House!    AAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/poll-world-series-supports-5300/#comment-186767</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Joba&#039;s defense, most 23-year-old starters don&#039;t really throw 150-175 innings until their 22-year-old and 23-year-old seasons, and we&#039;ve been fucking with those seasons by giving him extensive stints in the pen and not letting him just stay on regular 4 day rests as a starter.

FWIW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Joba&#8217;s defense, most 23-year-old starters don&#8217;t really throw 150-175 innings until their 22-year-old and 23-year-old seasons, and we&#8217;ve been fucking with those seasons by giving him extensive stints in the pen and not letting him just stay on regular 4 day rests as a starter.</p>
<p>FWIW.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, let me just start out by saying I&#039;m firmly in the &#039;Joba starts&#039; camp. That being said, let me show you what Mike is talking about. Here&#039;s Joba&#039;s career stats from the Cube

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/C/Joba-Chamberlain.shtml

Notice something? He&#039;s never pitched more than 118 innings, and that was in his first year at Nebraska. The next year he was hurt, the year after the Yanks wanted to keep his innings down (and protect him from Torre). This year he was hurt again, and on an innings limit. 

The fact remains most 23 year old starters have thrown 150-175 innings by now, and Joba has yet to show he&#039;s able to. He hasn&#039;t done it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let me just start out by saying I&#8217;m firmly in the &#8216;Joba starts&#8217; camp. That being said, let me show you what Mike is talking about. Here&#8217;s Joba&#8217;s career stats from the Cube</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/C/Joba-Chamberlain.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.thebaseballcube.com.....lain.shtml</a></p>
<p>Notice something? He&#8217;s never pitched more than 118 innings, and that was in his first year at Nebraska. The next year he was hurt, the year after the Yanks wanted to keep his innings down (and protect him from Torre). This year he was hurt again, and on an innings limit. </p>
<p>The fact remains most 23 year old starters have thrown 150-175 innings by now, and Joba has yet to show he&#8217;s able to. He hasn&#8217;t done it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/poll-world-series-supports-5300/#comment-186749</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/poll-world-series-supports-5300/#comment-186725</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh, if the Rays win the whole thing, so few people down there will actually remember/care, we can probably just wait a few years and then start telling people we won the 2008 World Series and nobody would notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh, if the Rays win the whole thing, so few people down there will actually remember/care, we can probably just wait a few years and then start telling people we won the 2008 World Series and nobody would notice.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one thinks it&#039;s better if the Phillies win because their fans actually turn up to the ballpark? Only around 15,000 people in the country can call themselves Rays fans in front of a mirror. I don&#039;t know about you guys, but I don&#039;t particularly want the 25,000 extra one-timers to enjoy a WS win they don&#039;t deserve to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one thinks it&#8217;s better if the Phillies win because their fans actually turn up to the ballpark? Only around 15,000 people in the country can call themselves Rays fans in front of a mirror. I don&#8217;t know about you guys, but I don&#8217;t particularly want the 25,000 extra one-timers to enjoy a WS win they don&#8217;t deserve to see.</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/10/poll-world-series-supports-5300/#comment-186720</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the plus side for Fatboy Mike, however, at least he isn&#039;t &lt;a href=&quot;http://listmaker.blogspot.com/2005/08/off-to-west-coast-for-baseball-trip-05.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a dead ringer for the 40-Year Old Virgin.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the plus side for Fatboy Mike, however, at least he isn&#8217;t <a href="http://listmaker.blogspot.com/2005/08/off-to-west-coast-for-baseball-trip-05.html" rel="nofollow">a dead ringer for the 40-Year Old Virgin.</a></p>
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