Roger Clemens is not a lot of things

Olney: Pettitte, Mussina good fits for a Pinstriped return
Randolph headed to D.C.?

According to this article, Roger Clemens is not unhappy with the Yanks for the perceived final game snub. He’s not looking to play any longer. He’s not too keen to talk about that whole PED issue, and he’s not going to be joining the Astros to fulfill his personal services contract any time soon. I wonder if, in four years, we’ll be saying that he’s not going to the Hall of Fame either.

Olney: Pettitte, Mussina good fits for a Pinstriped return
Randolph headed to D.C.?
  • TheLastClown

    Man I’ve got to say it was the biggest surprise of last offseason, for me, this whole Clemens thing. Not exactly that he DID the PEDs, but his whole reaction afterward. I mean, from what seems to be coming out of the past, many more players did the PEDs than we know of, maybe more even than those who didn’t do them. We’ll never know the entirety of it.

    That’s why Im not quick to pass judgment on a Giambi, a Bonds, a McGwire, a Sosa, a Pettite. *remember Jason Grimsley?* But at least have the tact to say “Yeah, I did it, it was a nasty trend that we fell into, but hey, let’s let bygones be bygones*

    Clemens was a marvelous pitcher with Boston, before he went to Toronto and had all of this McNamee business. Will he go to the hall? I don’t think any of the above players will get in, and thus I don’t think Roger will be an exception. Do I think it’s right? I have no opinion, but the bigger they are…..

  • radnom

    Seems like he might be pulling a Mcquire and disappearing completely. I don’t think Clemens can handle that, personally, I think we will be hearing his name in the news all too soon.

    Oh, and first ballot half of famer, no question.
    Ditto for Bonds.

  • zack

    The notion that Clemens would be denied access to the Hall because of steroid allegations really bugs me. Talk about reactionary and in the moment. There is no way you can chalk Clemens’ career up to steroids and say, “well, he didn’t earn it and all of his numbers are because he was on steroids.” Ditto Bonds.

    They guy may be a jerk and may have used roids, but to say he doesn’t belong in the hall? Crazy

    • JeffG



    What’s up with this “Clemens Underage Affair” advertisement above?

    • Steve

      mmmmmmmmm cookies.

      Its amazing what they pick up. The Big Cookie Monster is watching you.

  • JeffG

    The article reads to me as Clemens is learning new tricks.
    He has known nothing in his career but to fight. On a mound he could say I’ll beat you – here it is. The problem is that it works differently between the lines of a baseball field than it does in a political arena. Fortune traveled far away from what his will could impose on a baseball versus what it could impose on the public.
    Roger thought he could beat the truth. But in the end his lie may have cost him it.
    In the article he says, “We are trying to do things the right way”. This is him finally admitting that he’s not going to win. For the first time he’s ever known it, winning is to let go. Being mean, being tough, isn’t as good as “doing things right” and being quite.
    He is the definition of a competitor and that more than anything else is why I respected him as the best pitcher, and perhaps player, I have ever seen. His game 4 of the 2000 ALCS was by far my favorite game. He crushed one of the best teams in the history of baseball. He was invincible. That, we may have believed, and he may have believed, but he soon found out it didn’t work so well in other places.
    The question is truth? People will get over Pettit because he told the truth. Fans can get over steroids, because the truth is, it was a large part of the game. It’s simple to regard Roger as bad because of the news, and the feelings that the sport that we loved was diminished. But it was our sport and not one person. It wasn’t Clemens more than it was a great many. Yet what he was able to do was with no doubt, in my mind, far above what any drugs could do and far beyond what the Mitchelle report could disprove. The truth is that with or without the steroids he was great. He was great because he was absolutely driven, worked harder than anyone, knew the game, and could tower above those he was up agaist.
    The funny thing is that now people question if he did things the right way. He competed with everything he had, for me, the answer is yes. Now, for him, doing things the right way means backing down and fading away.