World Series Game 4: Rays @ Phils


Tonight’s game promises to be less … chaotic, than last night’s. The weather is nice and clear, so there will be no 10pm first pitch tonight, and you have to imagine we won’t see the two teams be so self-destructive in the later innings again.

I’ve watched the replay of Carlos Ruiz’s walk-off “hit” a few times, and I can’t say for sure that the ball would have gone foul. It looks like it might have, but it was far enough from the line to make me think it would have stayed fair. Oh, by the way, that was the Phillies’ first hit with RISP that actually scored a run in the series. They’re up 2-1 in the series, but you can only rely on the long ball so much.

Cupcakes Blanton will be facing his first American League club since his midsummer trade to the land of cheesesteaks. He was 5-12 with a 4.96 ERA & 1.42 WHIP with Oakland this year, and then better, but not great after the trade, going 4-0, 4.20, 1.37 with the Phightin’s. His strikeout rate has never been good, so he’ll have to hope they don’t hit them where they ain’t.

Needless to say this is a big game for Tampa, who certainly doesn’t want to go down 3-1 in the series with Cole Hamels looming in Game 5. Andy Sonnanstine is the Rays’ version of Ian Kennedy – fringy stuff with excellent command – except he’s already mastered the art of keeping the ball in the lower third of the zone, which is what he’ll have to do tonight to keep the Phillies in check.

The game doesn’t start until 8, so feel free to use this as an open thread to discuss today’s NFL action.

Tampa Bay
1. Akinori Iwamura, 2B
2. BJ Upton, CF
3. Carlos Pena, 1B
4. Evan Longoria, 3B
5. Carl Crawford, LF
6. Dioner Navarro, C
7. Ben Zobrist, RF
8. Jason Bartlett, SS
9. Andy Sonnanstine, P (13-9, 4.38)

1. Jimmy Rollins, SS
2. Jayson Werth, RF
3. Chase Utley, 2B
4. Ryan Howard, 1B
5. Pat Burrel, LF
6. Shane Victorino, CF
7. Pedro Feliz, 3B
8. Carlos Ruiz, C
9. Joe Blanton, P (9-12, 4.69)

Site note: No DotF tonight, the Arizona Fall League is off and Hawaii Winter Baseball was rained. Yes, apparently it does rain in Hawaii.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Ivan says:

    Great win if ya a Giant fan. coming back and just makin Big Ben day miserable (and boy they miss Fanaca more than I thought)

    And if Thigpen doesn’t throw that int in the 4th QT, that would have been a potentially awful lost and Mangini seat would of have been blazing.

  2. Ivan says:

    And yo, Did anybody saw the confrotation between Singletary and Davis? And Singletary calling out Davis, saying that he in concern with Davis was better helping the team on the bench than on the field.

  3. Jamal G. says:

    Wow, people are really, really, really freakin’ stupid: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

  4. s says:

    what about the panthers?


  5. s says:

    i dont think so pujols is sure to win even if he doesnt he will prob win atleast 3 more in the weak national league

  6. Alex says:

    I cant stand the Fox world series music. I keep waiting for it to transition into a Disney commercial.

  7. E-ROC says:

    I never thought I’d see Carlos Ruiz become the World Series MVP.

  8. A.D. says:

    If Howard & Utley are hot, wont matter what cupcakes does

  9. Ivan says:

    Which NFL Press conference Tirade was better:

    Jim Mora’s “Playoffs” or Dennis Green’s “They are who we thought they were”

  10. Mike A. says:

    Rays dropped Cliff Floyd off the roster, added Eric Hinke in his place.

  11. Alex says:

    Something else Fox is incredible at doing – thinking they can draw creative parallels between sporting events and film/television sponsors… in an era when the “See PC Richard” whistle plays after every Yankee pitcher’s strikeout, FOX stands above the rest in shameless commercialization.

    Relatedly, I love Jennifer Connelly

  12. Mike A. says:

    Taylor Swift is hotter than the chick singing the National Anthem tonight.

  13. Jose says:

    What did that woman just do to the anthem?!

  14. Mike A. says:

    Do they ever plan on starting the game?

  15. Mike A. says:

    Joe Blanton only throws 90mph. He’ll obviously never be a successful big leaguer.

  16. Mike A. says:


  17. Ivan says:

    By the way, congrads for Pujols winning the Clemente Award. At least he does win something.

  18. Ivan says:

    By you gotta love the voice of Harry Kalas.

  19. Mike A. says:

    Andy Sonnanstine hasn’t pitched in 12 days.

  20. Ivan says:

    Sonnanstine throws 87MPH. He has NOOOOOOOOO chance.

  21. Mike A. says:

    Oh man, E-Long got him.

  22. E-ROC says:

    Instant Replay anyone?

  23. Ivan says:

    This has been a botchmania of a WS.

  24. Alex says:

    That close-up was priceless

  25. Mike A. says:

    I’m surprised they didn’t call Utley safe at the plate there.

  26. Mike A. says:

    Man, the Phils are worse with RISP than the Yanks.

  27. E-ROC says:

    Just some bad hacks by the Rays

  28. Ivan says:

    This has been one of the more odd WS I,ve seen. The Umps have been horrible, both managers have made some bad decisions and the offense of both teams specifically in RISP have been putrid.

  29. E-ROC says:

    You friggin’ ump.

  30. Joe Buck: This guy just flat out makes this team go.

    [long pause]

    Tim McCarver: He’s an eye-opener.

    Imaginary Joe Buck in my head: Dynamite drop in, Monty. Those broadcast classes are really paying off!

    • E-ROC says:

      They are just making shit up now. Memo FOX: get a new broadcast team.

      • Mike @ NYYU says:

        4th inning, ground ball gets by the TB 2b.

        Buck: “it’s either a hit or an error”

        WHAT ELSE COULD IT BE, JOE? Fill us in.


        McCarver: If the ball stays close to the ground it’s a hit, if it takes a hop then its an error.


        This is why I prefer to watch with the sound on mute.

        (Didn’t mean to double post. I did not know this thread was going)

  31. yankeefan91 (sign manny) says:


    that ball did look like it was going foul

  32. Ivan says:

    The Phils can’t get a hit in RISP to save their lives.

  33. Tim McCarver: Look at that hanging slider. It’s just hanging there, begging to be hit hard. Pleading.
    Joe Buck: Talk about a downhill lie…

  34. Ivan says:

    Good play Aki

  35. Jose says:

    Anyone notice that dark spot on Blanton’s cap?

  36. Ivan says:

    Pena-Longoria-Crawford are 0-25 Yikes.

  37. Mike A. says:

    Classic CBP homer. Little pop-up one row back.

  38. Mike A. says:

    “It hasn’t affected the effectiveness of Sonnanstine, it’s affected his control.”

    McCarver gold right there.

  39. A.D. says:


  40. Ivan says:

    I had a good feeling Howard would hit a homer there.

  41. Jamal G. says:

    Andy Sonnanstine is a winner.

  42. E-ROC says:

    You throw him enough breaking balls sooner or later he’ll hit one out. Still have to mix in the fastball.

  43. Mike A. says:

    Nice play by Feliz.

  44. Mike A. says:

    Big hit by Shitske.

  45. E-ROC says:

    Pinch hit blast

  46. E-ROC says:

    This ump has the tightest strike zone known to man.

  47. E-ROC says:

    R u serious!!!??? Cupcakes gotta homerun. Bananas! No pun intended.

  48. Ivan says:

    It’s just not your night when you give up a homer to a pitcher in the WS.

  49. Mike @ NYYU says:

    Blanton’s last AB as a Phillie?

    What is McCarver talking about?

  50. Joe says:

    There’s something you don’t see every day

  51. Ivan says:

    I know it’s early, but TB is playin like a bunch pussies right now.

  52. Mike A. says:

    Evan Longoria is obviously not clutch.

  53. Ivan says:

    Evan Longoria is playin like Eva Longoria right

  54. E-ROC says:

    Joe Blanton a strike out machine?

  55. E-ROC says:

    This ump needs to puff puff pass.

  56. Ivan says:

    This Ump must be Stevie Wonder.

  57. E-ROC says:

    That has to be the worst swing of the entire WS by Navarro right there. He pretty much gave up in that AB when he swung at a ball above his head.

  58. Ivan says:

    You know what Edwin Jackson and Martin Lawrence have in common? Both are born in Franfurt Germany.

  59. Mike A. says:

    Emphatic strikeout call by the ump. He really put his elbow into that one.

  60. Mike Pop says:

    “the only games that philly will win are the games Hamels starts, the other games wont even be close”–who am i ?

  61. E-ROC says:

    Moyer was wetting the bed according to his wife before he pitched in that game. hahaha

  62. E-ROC says:

    Burrell is slow as hell.

  63. Ivan says:

    Buck: “Those are the details that you only get is from Rosenthal”

    Aside from the bad sources and made up trade proposals and etc. he’s reliable.

  64. Ivan says:

    Im surprise he didn’t call that a strike. That pitch was better than the rest he called k’s.

  65. Mike A. says:

    Cupcakes is out of the game. Time for Tampa to make a move.

  66. Jamal G. says:

    There’s not a lot that would make me ashamed of my family, but for the love of God: http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10.....d4-player/

  67. Mike Pop says:

    It looks like the Rays lost their stingers if ya know what I mean

  68. Mike Pop says:

    We will be here next year, don’t ya’ll worry

  69. Ivan says:

    Figures he throws the change up on 3-2.

  70. Mike A. says:

    Man, a 3-2 change in that spot is not fair.

  71. Mike A. says:

    These military women singing God Bless America keep getting uglier and uglier.

  72. Jamal G. says:

    I bet you $10 that guy does not blink or laugh.

  73. Jamal G. says:

    Carlos Pena has balls of steel.

  74. Mike A. says:

    How the fuck did Pena catch that?

    • Steve H says:

      That was absolutely ridiculous. No way could he see the ball, plus he had to worry about the runner coming back in and snapping his arm ala Cliff Floyd.

  75. Ivan says:

    Pena has had a miserable WS so far.

  76. Mike A. says:

    Man, if your 3-4 hitters go 0 for 29 in the first 4 games of the series, you just can’t win. Brutal.

  77. Ivan says:

    This WS is sorta reminiscent of the 06 WS.

  78. Ivan says:

    If The Phils win this game, is this series over considering that Hamels starts game 5? After all, the only games their gonna win are the one Hamels starts right?

  79. Jamal G. says:

    Dan Wheeler gives up a Home Run? Shocking. Absolutely shocking.

  80. E-ROC says:

    That is the only thing Dan Wheeler is good for.

  81. Ivan says:

    Phillies bats woke up tonight.

  82. Mike A. says:

    Man, the Rays look fried. The Sox wore them out nice and good.

  83. Ivan says:

    God Damn Howard. Shit.

  84. Mike A. says:

    Brutal. Just brutal.

  85. E-ROC says:

    Wow, a lefty specialist walking a lefty. Yeah, the Rays are just falling apart right now.

  86. E-ROC says:

    Howard 5 Rays 2; that pretty much sums it up.

  87. Ivan says:

    Who would of thought the Phils would be beating up on the Rays like this.

  88. Ivan says:

    One question? If the Sox were in the WS, would the results be the same for the Phils?

  89. Mike A. says:

    You know what sucks? If/when the Phils win the WS, everyone’s going to be like “it was only a matter of time before the Rays came back to earth.” No one’s going to give them any credit.

    • Jamal G. says:

      Nah, I may be naive, but I think the MSM has moved past that notion. I don’t think they’ve been waiting for the shoe to drop, so to speak. I really think the story will be the Phillies winning a title for the city of Philly, and the Rays enjoying a great season that came to an all too sudden end.

  90. Mike A. says:

    I really can’t wait for Resistance 2.

  91. Jamal G. says:

    Resistance: Anybody ever played it?

  92. Ivan says:

    The one bright side is this, if they do find a way to beat Hamels, they are in solid shape with Shields and Garza at home.

  93. Ivan says:

    One win away from the Title.

  94. Mike A. says:

    “Um … excuse me … um … Mr. Howard.”

    [Ryan Howard looks around]

    “What the hell…”

    “Um … Mr. Howard … down here Mr. Howard”

    [Howard looks down, see Ken Rosenthal beneath him]


  95. Mike A. says:

    Actually, Chris Myers, the best moment of Joe Blanton’s life was when he bought that new tractor with his signing bonus.

  96. Jamal G. says:

    “And here’s the announcer who sounds like a man with a firm handshake.”

    Heh, that’s too funny.

  97. Ivan says:

    Well Im gonna watch True Blood on HBO. First time watching it as well.

  98. kgSturnz0r17 says:

    i hope tb has a post-alcs hangover

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