2009 Draft Order Tracker snafu

An ode to the Boss from LA
As expected, CC offer not going anywhere

I received an email from fellow MLB Draft watcher Travis Orton, who mentioned that I may have been treating the compensation picks for unsigned draft picks incorrectly in our 2009 Draft Order page. I was under the impression that the comp picks are essentially “invisible,” and do not effect the overall number sequencing (i.e. #8, #9, #9A, #10, #11), however Travis pointed out that last year the comp picks were counted towards the overall numbering. This is significant because my methodology pushes a comp pick back one spot for every comp pick that comes before it, meaning the Crow pick pushed the Fields pick back one spot, which then pushed the Cole pick back two spots, etc.

So Travis and I exchanged you’re an idiot, I’m right friendly emails, and eventually took it Baseball America‘s Jim Callis, who confirmed with MLB that the comp picks do count towards the overall, meaning I’ve been accounting for them incorrectly. I’ve updated the page to reflect the correct order and numbering, while Jim has an updated draft order in today’s AskBA. My mistake irreparably destroys my credit as a know-it-all blogger, but the Yanks actual benefit: the comp pick for Gerrit Cole moves up two spots, while the comp pick for Scott Bittle moves up four spots.

My bad, yo.

An ode to the Boss from LA
As expected, CC offer not going anywhere
  • KW

    BOOOO!!! Hiss!!

    Good news though for the Yanks. Is it true that the class doesn’t look so stellar though?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      It’s light in top shelf talent – there’s only one elite guy in the draft (Strasburg) and maybe 4 or 5 guys a notch below that. There’s a good amount of depth, a nice group of solid players. It’s definitely a step down from the ’08 draft.

      • pat

        right now it looks bleak but I think its a little early to say anything definitive. Theres always gonna be kids who have breakout seasons in college or grow 4 or 5 inches between jr and sr year of highschool. Hell im sure there will be a few brett marshalls who make the transition from position player to pitcher only to find out they can bring the chedda.
        Anyway ill expect my refund check in the mail sometime soon.Kthanksbye

        • AndrewYF

          There were several reports even weeks leading up to draft day that the 2006 draft could be the worst since 2000. That turned into the best Yankee draft in years.

      • A.D.

        Thats fine, given the Yanks will likely loose the non Cole 1st rounder and it isn’t that high anyways, they’re going to miss out on “blue chip” talent anyways…. depth is more useful, especially if they pile up some other late first rounder & supplemental picks

      • rbizzler

        Hi Mike,

        How much stock can we put in the stuff that the guys at Driveline Mechanics are doing? I know they preach from the bible of ‘Dr.’ Morgan, and I have heard/seen others refute that the Morgan approach is the be all and end all.

        They come down pretty hard on Strasburg’s mechanics (I will agree that his follow through needs polish), and I am just wondering how much stock to put into this type of analysis (ie the post-Carlos Gomez’s of the world).

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          I really haven’t read that site much, so I can’t comment on it. From what I’ve heard, they tend to come down hard on everyone, which isn’t fair. No two people are built the same, so what works for someone may not work for someone else.

          Picture perfect mechanics are different for everyone, so you can’t really compare someone against some standard of “ideal mechanics” because they don’t exist.

          • rbizzler

            Thanks Mike. Their post on Strasburg likens his mechanics to Mark Prior, which is obviously not a good thing. I am just trying to figure out how much stock to put in the new wave of online scouting/video analysis that has become all the rage.

  • Mike Pop

    And you run a blog ? …………… Pathetic

  • JohnnyC

    Although the Yankees’ draft philosophy has been “best talent” available, do you think they might emphasize postion players more since the system is top-heavy in pitching prospects. I know, I know…no such thing as a pitching prospect.

    • jsbrendog

      nah because you can always trade the best tlent later for what you need

  • T-Dizzle

    if there is a way that they can trade to get higher pick then they should cuz they need the high ceilingg guys like strazburg instead of the no. 4 sp types and role player types wonder if its a money thing

    • pat

      picks cant be traded and we still get elite talent throughout the draft joba brackman dellin romine etc. say hello.

      • Baseballnation

        Yeah the Yankees can get high ceiling signability guys but this draft is relatively weak on high end talent. As Mike said it’s a draft with some solid depth but then again I think that’s just a nice way of saying the draft is overall mediocre and If it’s me I’d rather continue to focus on drafting the highest upside pitchers available…

        Although I think it’s widely agreed the Yankees could use some position depth and the overall system lacks hitters with power so I’d like to see them go after that a little bit

  • dan

    George King and Bill Madden are currently writing an FJM-style piece to bring you down, Mike.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      I’d believe you, if I actually believed that those two schmucks new of the existence of the “internets”.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones


        Mike, ban me immediately.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Not until I get a chance to rub it in your face if I beat you in fantasy.

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

            I have the ninjas taking out Ryan Grant as we speak.

  • TurnTwo

    just heard from a friend, unconfirmed report: Renteria to the Giants.

    • Mike Pop

      Where did he hear it from

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        It’s on MLBTR now.

        • Baseballnation

          I guess it’s all about the money at this point for Renteria instead of having a shot to win?

          • http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/2000/01/18/jeter_ap/index.html steve (different one)

            you never know in that division…

            if the Giants signed, say… Manny, i think they’d be right in the thick of it next year.

            • Mike Pop

              Or CC.. They would be filthy filthy… Then I could see them dealing Sanchez for another impact bat and they could be right with it…

            • E-ROC

              Or Adam Dunn

  • Baseballnation

    …By the way I just caught the movie Major Leagues the other day and laughed thinking how Juan Miranda reminds me kinda of Pedro Cerano

  • E-ROC

    The Yanks should sign Jamie D’Antona. I don’t know much about him but has good minor league numbers.

  • steve

    Any chance Varitek gets signed somewhere else and they give up a 1st round pick? Or will a team not sign him just because of his type A status? Well, if Renteria just got got signed I guess it could happen.

    • Mike Pop

      It only seems logical that he will return to the red sox for one year.. They have him right where they want him.. I bet Chad Moeller could of put up the numbers Tek did this year.. No team should sign hi, except the Sox..

      But you have to take into account when Tek catches young pitchers throw no hitters

      • steve

        But would a team sign him and give up their first round pick?

    • radnom

      I don’t think the Sox would offer him arbitration.

      • 27 this year

        probably the Red Sox would hope for someone to sign him before Dec 1 but they are definitely not offering arb and thus, it wouldn’t cost a pick if you wait until after Dec 1

  • kenthadley

    blurb out on Rotoworld.com that Yanks had been interested in Odalis Perez…..first I’ve heard that name come up…….doesn’t seem to make sense, considering what we’ve been talking about here for the past month or so…..any other info on this out there