Nov
04
Burnett opts out of contract
ByThis is nothing more than a formality, but now it’s official. According to Ken Rosenthal, A.J. Burnett has opted out of the two remaining years on his contract with the Toronto Blue Jays. The right hander, who will be 32 just after the new year, is foregoing $24 million to seek further riches. We can expect to hear plenty about the Yankees interest in Burnett, as we already have this hot-stove season.
I know ya’ll dont like it but hes gonna be a yankee
as long as he is the second signing with CC being the first thats fine.
agreed.
CC is a must. i think that putting Burnett as a 3-4 behind CC Wang Joba would go a LONG way to establishing that dominant rotation of the late 90’s.
That same dominant rotation that featured Hideki Irabu as the fifth starter in 1998.
Average #5 starters in MLB have something like a 6+ ERA, so anyone below an ERA of 5 is pretty good.
When can the Yankees begin negotiating. Is it still the 15 days after World Series, or is that waved since Toronto had its shot and he opted out?
As Pat said… as long as C.C. is also signed, I’m fine with Burnett being a Yankee. C.C. has to be top priority
Imagine a 2009 rotation of C.C./Wang/Burnett/Joba/Pettitte? Damn that’s a scary for the opposition
that’s scary for the opposition until joba and burnett have sore shoulders in may and we are back where we started
they need to figure out a way to limit Joba’s usage so that he doesn’t break down… burnett’s injuries are inevitable
At least there will be better depth in triple-A. I’m sure Horne, Marquez, Sanchez (I hope he starts) >>>>>>> Rasner and Ponson.
On thing it will do that people must realize as simple as it sounds is that we wont have LONG loosing streaks. Its virtually impossible to go on a 5 game skid with these guys.
update update update (delete after reading) pavano and giambi have been declined.
Source?
realgm.com or rotoworld.com
mlbtr too. and jason beck.
but no mention of marte
no mention of marte. I dont know how much i pay attention to what George King says.
I’d pay attention to him if he’s running though the stadium yelling “SCUZE ME, I’M SICK!” Last thing I need is vomit on my shoes.
Other than that, not much.
When FA signing period start ? November 14th 15th ?
the 12th? or maybe that was last year.
14th. 15 days after the WS ends.
OK thats right. Because last year they had a sweep and no rain delays.
Buck Foston
Some of you really need to get over the idea that signing Burnett at all is a good move for the Yankees. Sheets, Lowe…Hell I’d rather have Dempster over Burnett with all things considered
Hell I’d rather have Dempster over Burnett with all things considered
No, you wouldn’t.
Sheets over Burnett, yes.
Dempster over Burnett, not in a million years.
I still think that Burnett, even with the injury history, is better then Sheets for the Yankees for the simple fact that Burnett proved it already in the AL East.
Its funny because before this season even started I had a huge argument over Sheets/Burnett with my friend and economic teacher. I had Burnett because of his stuff and I knew Sheets was good but also didnt get to see him be dominant.. I know Burnett is average against everyone but the AL east but the dude is filthy.. I took Burnett because hes proved it in the AL but I guess Sheets does have better command.. But the Fastball and his curvball are nastier than Sheets I think..
They’re pretty much the same pitcher in term of health history, strikeout rates, ERA+ and league adj ERA. Where Sheets trumps Burnett is walks. Sheets has a BB/9 IP below 2 whereas Burnett BB/9 IP is around 3.75 He walks about half the guys that Burnett does. Sheets is also 3 years younger (29/32)
Yes, I’d prefer Sheets.
F Lowe. F Dempster. F Sheets
Pettitte can provide on a 1 yr deal what Lowe can provide on a 3-4 yr deal
Dempster had a great season in the NL. He’d struggle in AL
Sheets is just like Burnett in terms of injuries. I’ll take the pitcher with AL East experience
I’ll take the pitcher with better command and a lesser commitment in his length of contract (Ben Sheets).
I say Go For It
Just signing Burnett would get us another 3 or 4 wins a year if he sat on the bench
Why does everyone want to sign a guy that’s almost guaranteed to have lengthy DL stints every year? When you’re projecting how “awesome” a rotation with Burnett would be, factor in 10 starts by Rasner or the like every season.
Does that really seem worth the 4/64 or 5/75 it’s going to take to sign this guy?
i think hes referring to the fact that burnett kills us every season and having him not start for toronto would be a benefit.
You cant say he is gauranteed to have DL time.. Maybe its past him ? (heh)
I’d rather do CC+Burnett minus the draft picks than do CC+Peavey and lose Hughes/Cano/IPK to get him. If the package gets any bigger than IPK-Cano and 1-2 second tier relievers like D-Rob/Cox/Bruney/Veras, then I pass. The team is a better, deeper team with an injury prone Burnett and Hughes+IPK backing him up in AAA than it is with Peavey alone.
The difference between Peavey and Burnett isn’t worth Phil Hughes+Cano+IPK.
BTW-When you look at Peavey’s home/road splits, and then add half a run for the AL to NL transition, I’m not sure there’s any difference at all between the two pitchers.
Well Peavy is the superior pitcher but AJ is the better answer for us than Peavy becuz of your point.. It aint worth losing Hughes and Kennedy plus Cano.. If we get Burnett we have him plus a potential ace and a potential 4 or 5 rather than just PEavy.. Plus Burnett will probably end up being round same mount of money considering wed need to gaurantee peavy’s 22 option
Thank you. I don’t want to make any trades that involve trading away prospects/young talent. I’ll take Burnett over Peavy easily
I want to keep the prospects
The difference between Peavey and Burnett isn’t worth Phil Hughes+Cano+IPK.
indeed
I want to make that a bumper sticker or something.
That was short and sweet, and made the point perfectly. One of my rare moments of brevity.
Seriously, I think Hughes has some naked pictures of some people. I mean, I think he has a world of talent, but very few people would deal him for anything it seems. (I personally wouldn’t deal for Peavy, I think TJ surgery is in the near future based on this seasons injuries, and his numbers declining slightly)
Hes got a pic of Cash partying with the Hilton sisters
LOOK, I HAD NO IDEA SHE WAS 15, OK? PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES!!!
IMHO: It all depends on AJs asking price. Anything > 3 years or > $40m is folly.
I think there is room in the rotation as a #3 if the price is right.
Without question CC is key. If NYY break the bank on CC and get no other meaningful acquisition this off-season, it is still a productive off-season.
Well he will cost more than 13 a year
That’s right. It’ll be at least 13.2 mil per year. Maybe even 13.3.
Heh I get the sarcasm but it will probably take 14 to 17
Don’t mind me, I’m in a silly mood. Election day is a weird one for me.
my take on this is aj all the way…no peavy…then hughes waits in the wings in case we do have an injury….all teams pitchers have injuries throughout the season…so with hughes waiting..i say sign aj and cc….but i keep saying we need tex and i dont see or read any rumors that the yanks are interested….
I know I thought Tex was gonna be like our guy but maybe Cash and co are keeping it DL
They have big interest in Teixeira, I’m sure of it. But unlike the Red Sox, they’re aren’t letting it be known
Besides, I just can’t see the Yankees letting the Red Sox outbid them. I honestly can’t see that happening.
from Gammons
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....mons_peter
Would love the Yanks to get either Martin or Kemp.
Go to it Cash.
Burnett is the type of pitcher the yanks should avoid. What makes him so different from Pavano.
Its gotta work out this time around
I’ll believe it when I see it. Just Remember without the Yanks, he was an average pitcher.
and with the yanks he was no pitcher at all
“Oh, I was not aware you could see the future. Can I go ahead and get tomorrow’s lottery number? Stupid woman.”
Tommy John surgey-check
Missed a full season or close to it-check
Bruised Buttocks-OK, ya got me there. No one will ever beat that one.
Sign AJ Burnett if for no other reason, he’s never missed time due to a bruised buttocks.
He hasn’t been all that injury-prone. He’s averaged over 180+ IP per year since his TJ surgery. Recent results are the most indicative for future performance, and he pitched 220 innings last year.
Depending on the cost, he could be an excellent pitcher to have. Best curveball in baseball.
Plus there were reports he didnt like it as much in Canada.. He only liked it for Halladay I guess.. But thats his boy… Idk I think he would like to pitch for the Yanks more than the Jays idk if that will make him better but u never know in baseball… There were reports he jus sat out and didnt man up right ?
If the choice is between Sheets and Burnett, I’ll take Sheets. He’s 3 years younger, walks almost half as many guys as AJ, and all the other numbers are basically the same.
BTW-Did you know that despite being 3 years younger than Burnett, Sheets has logged more innings (1428/1376) in less seasons (8/10)?
http://www.baseball-reference......a.01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference......be01.shtml
If the choice is between Sheets and Burnett, I’ll take Sheets. He’s 3 years younger, walks almost half as many guys as AJ, and all the other numbers are basically the same.
BTW-Did you know that despite being 3 years younger than Burnett, Sheets has logged more innings (1428/1376) in less seasons (8/10)?
this is crazy! burnett is an ace caliber pitcher. id trust him over wang in a playoff game. on any given day this guys got the best stuff in baseball. if you can get him for a 3 or 4 year deal that would be perfect.