Hughes busts out

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Eh … eh … you see what I did there? I had to get one last jab in.

Phils’ prospect Jason Donald won the 2008 Stenson Award, Kevin Russo was one of the six finalists.

AzFL Peoria (5-0 win over Scottsdale) Peoria has one more game left in the season and they’re 4.0 GB of a playoff spot, so they’re basically done
Kevin Russo: 1 for 4, 1 R, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 1 BB, 2 K
Phil Hughes: 5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 10 K, 1 WP, 1 HB, 3-2 GB/FB – 53 of 76 pitches were strikes (69.7%) … wraps up his fall league season with 21 H, 13 BB, 38 K in 30 IP with a 3.00 ERA & .198 avg against … finishes up his year at 112.2 IP … time to just go home, chill out and get ready for next year

The Hawaii Winter Baseball season is over, Waikiki took home the league title.

Tuesday’s Games

AzFL Peoria (10-4 loss to Mesa)
Austin Jackson: 1 for 5, 1 RBI, 1 K
Juan Miranda: 1 for 4, 1 K
Kevin Russo: 2 for 4, 1 2B, 1 RBI

PRWL Mayaguez (4-3 loss to Caguas in 10 innings)
Ian Kennedy: 5 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 5 BB, 2 K, 1 WP, 5-7 GB/FB – too bad these box scores don’t have strike & pitch counts

Monday’s Games

AzFL Peoria (13-6 loss to Mesa)
Kevin Russo: 1 for 5, 1 R, 1 K
Austin Jackson: 0 for 3, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K – just his 6th walk with the Javelinas … his walk rate is down from 9.72% in the regular season to 5.36% in the fall league
Juan Miranda: 2 for 5, 2 R, 2 HR, 5 RBI, 1 K – he’s got a 1.174 OPS vs RHP & .679 vs LHP
Humberto Sanchez: 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 1-4 GB/FB – 15 of 21 pitches were strikes (71.4%) … I’d love to see some of these kind of outings from him in the Bronx this year

With the Arizona Fall League season ready to wrap up, DotF is just about ready to shut down for the winter. Every Sunday I’ll post an update for the Caribbean leagues, and I’ll throw something up midweek if IPK throws a no-hitter or something, but that’s it. Thanks for the all the comments, see y’all in April.

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  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

    PHIL YOOOOOOSE is teh sux0r!!!eleven11!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      Drink much last night, Ben?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

        Hah. No. I just couldn’t resist the mocking. I also noticed that a certain someone hasn’t written a word yet about this outing.

        • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          His first rumblings: “I should have something up on that tonight… But, FWIW, at first blush, I would say that he did what he was supposed to do…”

  • A.D.

    Nice for Hughes to end on a high note

  • Tim Q. Mills

    I hope we see Hughesie and Humberto in the show this year.

  • Chip

    Hughes gets Cy Young votes in 2010, write it down now

  • frits

    Goodbye dotf. I’ll really miss you.

    fuckin winter…

  • TurnTwo

    seriously, why does Miranda have to suck so badly against those LHP?

    with numbers like that against righties, though, does he hold enough value for an active roster spot, and maybe some part-time duty against RHP?

    see Nady sit, Swisher go out to RF, Miranda at 1B kind of lineups?

    • Nady Nation

      Or, you can sit GARDNER, play Damon in CF, keep Nady in, and make the other switches you suggested. I’m rather surprised at the amount of Nady sitting that’s being thrown out there, in favor of the likes of Gardner, Melky, and Miranda no less. Am I missing something?

      • TurnTwo

        i guess its really based off the idea that Gardner is the everyday CF and that Damon will play in LF, which is what Girardi said early this offseason… at least that Damon will be the everyday LF.

        what kind of surprises me is that on LoHud, Girardi admitted last night that there have been internal conversations about external options for the everyday CF.

        i mean, we know the Mike Cameron’s of the world have been considered, but i wonder what other names have come up in conversation.

        • http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/2000/01/18/jeter_ap/index.html steve (different one)

          what kind of surprises me is that on LoHud, Girardi admitted last night that there have been internal conversations about external options for the everyday CF.

          serious question, why would this surprise you?

          there is a very good chance that Brett Gardner is not a major league player. the same goes for Melky.

          i am not trying to start an argument about Brett. i’m not saying he can’t be a regular. and i’m not saying he sucks.

          i am saying the possibility is very, very real that he isn’t a major league regular.

          • A.D.

            Yeah, I dunno what the external options would be, but while Garnder may not be a major league regular, at worst he can definitely play the field, and be a solid CF

          • TurnTwo

            maybe that didnt come across right… i guess my original thought was ‘i wonder what external options they are looking at other than the ones we’ve already heard of (Cameron, maybe DeJesus, Taveras, and the like), and if there are any bigger names that might surprise us’?

            • http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/2000/01/18/jeter_ap/index.html steve (different one)

              fair enough. i see what you are saying.

              • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                i wonder what external options they are looking at other than the ones we’ve already heard of… and if there are any bigger names that might surprise us?

                Two words:

                Rickey. Henderson.

            • Bo

              Does Gardners .280 OBP last yr give you reason to doubt his fulltime ability in CF???

              Hes a good 4th OF but a starting CF on the Yankees?

              He looked overmatched on the big league level. They’d be taking a big risk giving him the job.

              • A.D.

                Well it actually isn’t a risk at all, he’s already on the 40 man, and already on the team, it costs them nothing to play him, they know he can play defense, and he’s going to be batting 9th, somewhere they basically got no production a year ago.

                So there isn’t a risk, I don’t think anyone’s penciling him in for some great year, and they’re not missing out on some great FA CF that they could sign

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                  Particularly since:
                  A) His .283 OBP last year is a pretty small sample size
                  B) His minor league OBP is much, much higher (.389)
                  C) His low big-league OBP in 2008 could easily be simply the rookie struggle/adjustment period that most typical big leaguers experience when they first come up
                  D) the previous point is reinforced by the fact that he raised his OBP significantly from his first stint with the club (.227 in June and July) to his second stint (.333 in August and September), indicating that he may be adjusting and he could very well continue his progress and have an above average OBP in 2009

                  Or, if you prefer it expressed in a more simplified fashion,

                  WHY THE FUCK IS THIS BURRITO TAKING THIS LONG TO COOK IN THIS MICROWAVE!!!!!!!!

                • Bo

                  If you don’t think its a risk giving the CF job to a guy who had little success in the majors last yr and has no power potential at all, i dont know what to tell ya.

                  They are going to comb the league looking for a CF after they sign some pitching. If they had any faith that Gardnber wasnt a 4th OF they wouldnt be looking and scoping out people like Cameron.

                  They cant have a blackhole on offense and Gardner was a black hole.

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                  They cant have a blackhole on offense and Gardner was a black hole.

                  But the point of all that is there’s good reason to believe he’s not going to be a black hole for the rest of his life. He can improve, and there’s several arrows pointing in that direction.

        • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

          …i wonder what other names have come up in conversation.

          I still am dumbfounded that Mike Francesa wants to trade Phil Hughes and Robinson Cano for Nate McLouth.

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

            I’m dumbfounded that Mike Francesa can possibly dumbfound you. Don’t you have to have a reasonable expectation that someone is smart to be shocked when they say something dumb?

            For example: I’m never ever dumbfounded at any of the idiocy from George Bush. It’s par for the course.

            • Thomas

              Strategery!

      • http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/2000/01/18/jeter_ap/index.html steve (different one)

        yes. Nady had the audacity to slump in the final weeks of the season, and even though he has been an above average hitter for his entire career, he is now viewed by Yankee fans as a scrub.

        a simple 3/2/1 weighting gives him a projection of .291/.345/.489 for 2009.

        Abreu hit .296/.371/.471 in 2008.

        there is almost no difference between the 2 once we factor in defense.

        Nady is not a star, but he will save the yankees $10M over Abreu and give the same overall performance. that’s $10M they can use elsewhere.

        he is a stopgap solution, hopefully until Holliday becomes a free agent, but he is still a valuable player.

        • Nady Nation

          Yea, I’m right with you. By no means am I saying Nady is Mariano, but taking AB’s away from him and giving them to the Melky/Gardner platoon and Juan Miranda, all who have either proven nothing on the ML level, or have proven to be subpar Major Leaguers, makes no sense to me.

          • TurnTwo

            its just assuming the premise that against a RHP they stick with a primarily LH lineup.

            it has nothing to do specifically against Nady.

            and idk Nady’s splits against RHP, but maybe those career numbers might warrant Nady sitting against certain RHP’ers.

    • A.D.

      Without a doubt he does, most pitchers are righty anyways, if he can crush righties they can figure something out when they face lefties… everyone needs a day off sometime.

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    How has Melky done so far?

    • TurnTwo

      who?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      He’s 6 for 12 with a 1.083 OPS.

      • UWS

        For realz?

        • TurnTwo

          if you’re going gansta with the ‘z’ in (realz), dont you have to follow thru on the (for) with a (fo’)?

          • Andy In Sunny Daytona

            What’s gansta?

          • UWS

            Sorry, my bad.

            As usual, I try to look cool, and end up looking like an idiot. Par for the course :)

            Thanks for the tipz, though!

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

            Yeah, she was a ho… FOR SHO’!

      • Andy In Sunny Daytona

        Sorry Mike. I was setting you up. That must have been painful.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

          You can’t set someone up based on 12 ABs. Wake me up when Melky does that over 400 plate appearances.

          • Andy In Sunny Daytona

            Any kind of credit Melky gets around here is huge. 12 AB’s or 400.

  • RobC

    I haven’t paid close attention, except when Trenton plays in my local area (Reading PA), but how are the position prospects, AJax, Miranda, Montero, Cervelli at plate discpline and BB/K?

  • MasterShake

    Looks like Ajax is having summer trouble hitting in Arizona .252/.300/.387, def hope he doesn’t get rushed next year if melky/gardner struggle in center for most of the year. Even if he does real well in minors next year they should just keep him down there for all of the year and most/all of the following season.

  • Reggie C.

    Mike,

    What do you think is Jackson’s power potential? The defense is ready right now & he seems like he’ll hit for a solid average and OBP, but the mediocre slugging % has got me wondering if he’ll ever be as strong as Bernie?

  • RJ – CT

    Anyone hear Fatcesa lately on the FAN? Being the asshole he is, has been saying nonstop lately that Hughes is getting terrible reports about his Arizona fall league starts. That no one is impressed, yada yada yada. Never heard a radio host who enjoys haroing on negativity more than that fat fuck.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      “Hughes is getting terrible reports” means he had an intern look up his ERA three weeks ago.

      • http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/2000/01/18/jeter_ap/index.html steve (different one)

        yeah, no one is pretending he didn’t have that rough patch, and a bunch of scouting reports came out during that time saying he was mechanically out of whack.

        but he obviously corrected it.

        10 K’s in 5 innings is crazy, no matter what the competition.

      • TurnTwo

        seriously, how does he get away with it? how are there not any other sports talk shows in NYC that people can turn to as an alternative?

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

        “Hughes is getting terrible reports” means he had an intern look up his ERA three weeks ago.

        Being Mike Francesa’s intern, and dealing with Fatty’s sunny disposition on a constant basis, has to be one of the worst jobs in sports.

        • Mike Pop

          “Hey kid run to the Subway and get me a Spicy Italian and I swear to god if there are onions on it again I am going to rape you on air”

  • RJ – CT

    Exactly! sure that report came after Hughes one bad outing. Surprised, but his show without Mad Dog is worse than I could’ve imagined.

    • TurnTwo

      its not awful, just extremely dull… and there arent any good sports radio talk alternatives to listen to on the ride home from work.

      and idk how many more times i can take listening to his infatuation about Nate McLouth.

  • Beau

    Brett Gardner is the equivalent to a Brian Anderson for the White Sox. Defense and speed is the only thing that makes him of any value. I will be quite worried if we don’t move on from the likes of Gardner and Melky. They should be used as defensive replacements late in games, or occasional starters to spell anyone who is worn out. I personally believe that center field is one of the most important positions to look for a franchise caliber guy, like a Tori Hunter. The Yanks obviously need to focus on pitching first, but if they don’t correct some of their offensive woes then we will be having another year of winning 15-2 and losing 1-0. The inconsistency was alarming last year.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      Brian Anderson’s career minor league line:
      .293/.361/.474, 120 BB, 246 K, 116 XBH in 1136 AB’s, 23 steals

      Brett Gardner’s career minor league line:
      .291/.389/.385 233 BB, 290 K, 92 XBH in 1456 AB’s, 153 steals

      I don’t really know that they’re good comps for each other. As a young hitter, Anderson showed more power but far worse plate discipline and less OBP skills, things that would make it harder for him to stick as a glove-first, speedy leadoff hitter. Gardner obviously has no pop at all, but he draws walks and can slap-hit his way on base effectively. And obviously, his speed is in a much, much different class than Brian Anderson’s, who is not a basestealing threat.

      Neither of them are blue-chip prospects, but I think Gardner’s minor league line portends to a more serviceable big league player than Anderson’s.

  • Beau

    I am impressed by your homework. I agree with you that Gardner isn’t someone to just throw away. His enthusiasm is needed on this veteran, apathetic team. His speed is nothing short of amazing. I think he would be a great pinch runner and occasional platoon guy. I think his offense will need to get better and be perfected to look at him as a starting center fielder.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      “His enthusiasm is needed on this veteran, apathetic team.” = intellectually lazy media bullshit spin

  • dan

    Thanks for another fine year in reporting.

  • Bo

    Hughes terrible reports?

    Jayson Stark doesn’t think so from his column today:

    Yankees pitcher Phil Hughes (1-0, 3.60 ERA, 28 K’s, 25 IP): “Saw him two games, and he cruised. He dominated, and he should. His curveball was very sharp. All those people who think he’s lost his luster — no way. Hell, he’d be our No. 2 starter right now.”

  • Dillon

    I hate to keep bringing this up, but i heard his velocity went up recently. Anyone else hear that he’s hitting 94mph once in a while?

  • Mike Pop

    IpK