Comments on: Questions heading into this week http://riveraveblues.com/2008/11/questions-heading-into-this-week-5752/ A New York Yankees Blog Mon, 28 May 2012 03:12:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones http://riveraveblues.com/2008/11/questions-heading-into-this-week-5752/#comment-200524 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:59:38 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5752#comment-200524 Think about it this way: Would any of those players you listed go in the top 45 picks in the June draft? Maybe Kennedy, in a not-super-strong draft class, right? The Rockies won't move Kennedy without getting back at least one stud prospect because if they keep him and he walks, they get two draft picks in the top 45, one or both of whom could be stud prospects. And, they get to keep Holliday and use his services for all of the 2009 pennant push. Unless they see two players who could conceivably be better than what they'd get in the draft, they stand pat. Think about it this way: Would any of those players you listed go in the top 45 picks in the June draft? Maybe Kennedy, in a not-super-strong draft class, right?

The Rockies won’t move Kennedy without getting back at least one stud prospect because if they keep him and he walks, they get two draft picks in the top 45, one or both of whom could be stud prospects. And, they get to keep Holliday and use his services for all of the 2009 pennant push.

Unless they see two players who could conceivably be better than what they’d get in the draft, they stand pat.

]]> By: JeffG http://riveraveblues.com/2008/11/questions-heading-into-this-week-5752/#comment-200505 JeffG Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:15:20 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5752#comment-200505 And you seem so sure, positive almost, amazing. Anyways, very possible that you could be right. But I'd just like to see what Holliday goes for considering it is absolutely a one year rental. Will there be another team with an offer that includes their best prospect for a season MH? The players above I think are fair value, but we'll see what he grabes when he is moved. And you seem so sure, positive almost, amazing.
Anyways, very possible that you could be right. But I’d just like to see what Holliday goes for considering it is absolutely a one year rental. Will there be another team with an offer that includes their best prospect for a season MH?
The players above I think are fair value, but we’ll see what he grabes when he is moved.

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones http://riveraveblues.com/2008/11/questions-heading-into-this-week-5752/#comment-200504 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:15:16 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5752#comment-200504 1.) Agreed. 2.) Agreed. 3.) Agreed. 4.) Agreed. 5.) Agreed. 1.) Agreed.

2.) Agreed.

3.) Agreed.

4.) Agreed.

5.) Agreed.

]]> By: SDYankee http://riveraveblues.com/2008/11/questions-heading-into-this-week-5752/#comment-200488 SDYankee Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:37:04 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5752#comment-200488 Several months back on MLBtraderumors.com they indicated the Yanks would try to keep the payroll at $180M and already have $144M committed (w/o $6M for Damaso Marte). Additionally, Ca$hman inidcated the Yanks will not be one and done and he wants a "real" first baseman. How do you see the Yanks rounding out the roster with those constraints??? CC is approx $23M per year AJ is rumored at $16M to $18M Lowe is rumored at $16M to $18M Tex is rumored at $18M to $20M Several months back on MLBtraderumors.com they indicated the Yanks would try to keep the payroll at $180M and already have $144M committed (w/o $6M for Damaso Marte).

Additionally, Ca$hman inidcated the Yanks will not be one and done and he wants a “real” first baseman.

How do you see the Yanks rounding out the roster with those constraints???
CC is approx $23M per year
AJ is rumored at $16M to $18M
Lowe is rumored at $16M to $18M
Tex is rumored at $18M to $20M

]]> By: Old Ranger http://riveraveblues.com/2008/11/questions-heading-into-this-week-5752/#comment-200483 Old Ranger Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:19:10 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5752#comment-200483 radnom has it about right as far as I am concerned. I still like the idea of Pavano (with incentives) the guy can pitch very well...when healthy. As for Burnett, only if we miss on CC...as I posted a few times before, his injuries were self induced (to much energy per pitch) last year he was much better. CC, CMW, Andy, Joba, Phil/Pavano with Giese to back-up Joba. Signing 2 or 3 pitchers is redundant, we already have a plethora of strong young arms. 27/09. radnom has it about right as far as I am concerned.

I still like the idea of Pavano (with incentives) the guy can pitch very well…when healthy. As for Burnett, only if we miss on CC…as I posted a few times before, his injuries were self induced (to much energy per pitch) last year he was much better. CC, CMW, Andy, Joba, Phil/Pavano with Giese to back-up Joba.
Signing 2 or 3 pitchers is redundant, we already have a plethora of strong young arms. 27/09.

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones http://riveraveblues.com/2008/11/questions-heading-into-this-week-5752/#comment-200479 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:06:29 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5752#comment-200479 Rich, I challenge you to a game of Ravenous, Ravenous Rhinos. Rich, I challenge you to a game of Ravenous, Ravenous Rhinos.

]]> By: Old Ranger http://riveraveblues.com/2008/11/questions-heading-into-this-week-5752/#comment-200475 Old Ranger Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:01:04 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5752#comment-200475 My 2009: THE WAY TO OPEN THE NEW HOUSE Rotation: 1) Sabathia 7yrs@24 2) Wang 3) Pettit 1yr @10 4) Phil/Pavano 4yrs @3.5 with incentives 5) Joba (Skip on off day and use Giese when possible) Lineup: 1) Damond 2) Jeter 3) Texier 7@20 4) ARod 5) Matsui 6) Posada 7) Cano 8) Nady 9) Brett Bench: B/C: Molina 4/OF Melky/Justin U/I Ransom U/I Betemit Pen: Giese (Long) Coke Albalandejo Ramirez Bruney Veras Rivera My 2009: THE WAY TO OPEN THE NEW HOUSE
Rotation:
1) Sabathia 7yrs@24
2) Wang
3) Pettit 1yr @10
4) Phil/Pavano 4yrs @3.5 with incentives
5) Joba (Skip on off day and use Giese when possible)

Lineup:
1) Damond
2) Jeter
3) Texier 7@20
4) ARod
5) Matsui
6) Posada
7) Cano
8) Nady
9) Brett

Bench:
B/C: Molina
4/OF Melky/Justin
U/I Ransom
U/I Betemit

Pen:
Giese (Long)
Coke
Albalandejo
Ramirez
Bruney
Veras
Rivera

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones http://riveraveblues.com/2008/11/questions-heading-into-this-week-5752/#comment-200474 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:58:44 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5752#comment-200474 <b>What would you suggest if you wanted to get it done without giving up Hughes? </b> Nothing, because Colorado wouldn't deal him without getting back Hughes. The reason many of us are so anti-Holliday (and anti-trade in general) is because we can't make any realistic deal for any quality talent (be it Holliday, Peavy, Adrian Gonzalez, Matt Cain, etc.) without giving up Hughes, Cano, Austin Jackson, or Jesus Montero... and most of those deal would require more than one of those four. So no, I'm not going to make a counterproposal, because the trade is unworkable. I'm not going to give up quality young cost-controlled talent for a non-centerfielding outfielder entering his walk year who's dramatically overvalued based on his obscene park effects when he's just going to hit the market anyway. Forget it, move on. What would you suggest if you wanted to get it done without giving up Hughes?

Nothing, because Colorado wouldn’t deal him without getting back Hughes. The reason many of us are so anti-Holliday (and anti-trade in general) is because we can’t make any realistic deal for any quality talent (be it Holliday, Peavy, Adrian Gonzalez, Matt Cain, etc.) without giving up Hughes, Cano, Austin Jackson, or Jesus Montero… and most of those deal would require more than one of those four.

So no, I’m not going to make a counterproposal, because the trade is unworkable. I’m not going to give up quality young cost-controlled talent for a non-centerfielding outfielder entering his walk year who’s dramatically overvalued based on his obscene park effects when he’s just going to hit the market anyway.

Forget it, move on.

]]> By: jsbrendog http://riveraveblues.com/2008/11/questions-heading-into-this-week-5752/#comment-200466 jsbrendog Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:44:18 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5752#comment-200466 they won't trade him for anything less than hughes or ajax, which means thanks but no thanks. they won’t trade him for anything less than hughes or ajax, which means thanks but no thanks.

]]> By: Erik http://riveraveblues.com/2008/11/questions-heading-into-this-week-5752/#comment-200462 Erik Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:32:20 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=5752#comment-200462 Joey, don't ever come back to this website again! Joey, don’t ever come back to this website again!

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