Comments on: Yanks’ Plan B coming into focus

By: Chris C.

Chris C. — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:21:20 +0000

Whoa.

Cole Hammils is an ACE! And Joe Blanton was stellar in the postseason, Brett Myers pitched reasonably well, Jamie Moyer was great for them during the regular season, and their middle relief and closer were terrific. The Phillies didn’t just slug their way to a championship…….they had the best starter on the field to carry them to one. And in the playoffs, that guy can get three starts a series!

Now the Phillies have a potent offense, but they are still predicated on their pitching. They did not cruise through the posteseason winning ballgames 9-8!

By: Chris C.

Chris C. — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:10:42 +0000

How do you say we are wasting a spot on Pettite ?
A guy who gives you 200 innings every year and you can probably assume that he will have a better year than how he finished off last season. It is not wasting a spot on a guy like that..

Well, okay. I’m not as condident as you are regarding Pettitte being better than last year, but I can accept that he could hold down a spot until the young guys are ready. I think at this point though, he is what he is……..an aging pitcher who will be mediocre. And he’s actually been more healthy than I thought over the past few years.
He’s gotta move off that 16 mill figure though. He’s not that guy anymore.

By: Chris C.

Chris C. — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:00:25 +0000

“I like Aceves as much as the next guy but earlier this year people were saying he is just like Rasner but with a little better stuff.”

After watching him pitch, I don’t think he’s anything like Rasner. He has a much better reportoire of pitches.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:40:00 +0000

“just playing games with numbers..”

Would you rather have Andy or Teix?

By: Bigs

Bigs — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:08:37 +0000

CC had a great year. Put up some fantastic numbers, but I believe the best pitcher on the market is Peavy. If we can get him without giving up Hughes would be great. Year in, year out Peavy is the man.

By: JJKK

JJKK — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:44:10 +0000

Pipe Dream Lineup without CC – who I think is afraid of coming to NY

SP: Wang, Joba, Sheets (3y/35m), Pettitte (2y/25m), Lowe (3y/45m),

RP: Rivera, Woods (3y/33m), Coke, Marte

1b-Swisher, 2b-Hudson (4y/35m), 3b-Arod, SS-Jeter, RF-Nady, CF-Kemp (for Cano), LF-Damon, C-Posada, DH-Manny (4y/85m)

The contracts are just a guess, all could be debated but it would add about 92m. I can’t see if happening but…..it would be cool if it did

By: Chris C.

Chris C. — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:34:17 +0000

I don’t think last year’s rotation plan was necessarily a bad plan either. However, having no backup plan for if Hughes and/or Kennedy didn’t live up to expectations was the biggest problem.

True……..but last year, when Kennedy went down and Hughes was getting hit, the Yankees had no answers. NOW, they have a stable of young pitchers who they are confident can step in and do a nice job. Last year, those guys were pegged for those rotation spots, with no backup plan.

“The lesson learned from last year is you never have enough pitching”

I agree…….I’m only talking about the 5th spot in the rotation, and the Yankees can have 5 rookies vying for that spot. That’s plenty.

“and it would be better to acquire other proven, top-end pitching and let Hughes and Kennedy step up when they’re needed.”

I disagree. The succcessful teams in the game keep the last rotation spot open for one of their young guys to step up and take it.
If you sign Pettitte, you are basically telling the young guys they will not have a chance to compete for that rotation spot right out of camp. Pettitte is just not that good a pitcher anymore to overpay for and guarentee a rotation spot to. He’s just not.

By: Chris C.

Chris C. — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:26:21 +0000

LF-Damon
SS-Jeter
1B-Tex
3B-A-Rod
RF-Dunn
CF-Swisher
DH-Matsui
C-Posada
2B-Cano

which is by all accounts, a very very scary lineup.

Also look liks a very SLOW line-up, with a bunch of guys who strike out a ton, and are not apt to playing situational baseball. I thought the Yankees goal was to get younger and more athletic?

Although I do like the additions of Tex, Swisher, and Adam Dunn.
Finally, a few guys who can work the count! But that’s alot of extra K’s!

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:50:08 +0000

Do you believe being held hostage by C.C. is a smart thing? How much higher are you willing to go to buy off C.C.’s infatuation with the west coast? If Wang, Joba, and Pettitte are all question marks C.C. alone won’t change our fortunes. I don’t think putting all our eggs on C.C. is the smart thing to do. We need to hope Hughes develops like Hamels and Lester did. We have to be smart and sign pitchers that don’t want a kings ransom to pitch for us. Sabathia has also been overworked by his previous teams and hasn’t been a guarantee in the playoffs either.

By: steve (different one)

steve (different one) — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 00:30:28 +0000

Why would you overpay a 4th starter (at best) to the tune of $13MM when you could cut that loss and pay an extra $8MM on top of that and land Teix?

and if teixeira was looking at a one year deal, you might have a point.

Teixeira will command between $160-$200M.

this “additional $8M” is just playing games with numbers. it’s an additional $150M.