Comments on: Analyzing the opt-out clause http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/davidoff-on-ccs-opt-out-6269/ A New York Yankees Blog Mon, 28 May 2012 03:48:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/davidoff-on-ccs-opt-out-6269/#comment-226539 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:16:50 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6269#comment-226539 Adam Dunn, career wOBA: .383 Manny Ramirez, career wOBA: .420 ... no amount of "character" in the world is worth that difference. Adam Dunn, career wOBA: .383
Manny Ramirez, career wOBA: .420

… no amount of “character” in the world is worth that difference.

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/davidoff-on-ccs-opt-out-6269/#comment-226535 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:13:28 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6269#comment-226535 <b>I understand people not wanting to sign Burnett to a 5 yr deal. I agree it is too much. BUT what I dont get is people dont mind signing a 36 yo Lowe to a 4 yr deal but complain about giving a 32 yo Burnett, mind you with an injury history obviously, a 5 yr deal.</b> A.J. Burnett, career ERA+: 111 Derek Lowe, career ERA+: 122 I understand people not wanting to sign Burnett to a 5 yr deal. I agree it is too much. BUT what I dont get is people dont mind signing a 36 yo Lowe to a 4 yr deal but complain about giving a 32 yo Burnett, mind you with an injury history obviously, a 5 yr deal.

A.J. Burnett, career ERA+: 111
Derek Lowe, career ERA+: 122

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/davidoff-on-ccs-opt-out-6269/#comment-226531 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:10:54 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6269#comment-226531 maybe not dude i dont roll like that maybe not dude i dont roll like that

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]]> By: Andy http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/davidoff-on-ccs-opt-out-6269/#comment-226505 Andy Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:40:42 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6269#comment-226505 Getting in this a little late, but I don't see what is so terrible about the opt out clause. Everyone says it is terrible because if he gets hurt, they are stuck with him for four more years - but if he gets hurt, they're stuck with him for four more years regardless of whether he has an opt out clause or not. That is the risk with a long deal. So the worst case scenario is he pitches really well for you for three years, and then opts out. Big whoop. You get three great years of a guy in his prime, and don't have to pay him $100 mil as he begins his decline. I think the reports of it being a terrible idea are way over blown. Consider this scenario no one talks about, which is probably the most likely of all the scenarios: he pitches great for three years, opts out, signs with San Fran, and blows his arm out. Then the Yanks look great. Everyone was so shocked that he got seven years, and that he is too fat so he'll break down - well, the Yanks eliminated some of that risk by providing a way out of the last four (and riskiest) years of his contract. Getting in this a little late, but I don’t see what is so terrible about the opt out clause. Everyone says it is terrible because if he gets hurt, they are stuck with him for four more years – but if he gets hurt, they’re stuck with him for four more years regardless of whether he has an opt out clause or not. That is the risk with a long deal. So the worst case scenario is he pitches really well for you for three years, and then opts out. Big whoop. You get three great years of a guy in his prime, and don’t have to pay him $100 mil as he begins his decline. I think the reports of it being a terrible idea are way over blown.

Consider this scenario no one talks about, which is probably the most likely of all the scenarios: he pitches great for three years, opts out, signs with San Fran, and blows his arm out. Then the Yanks look great. Everyone was so shocked that he got seven years, and that he is too fat so he’ll break down – well, the Yanks eliminated some of that risk by providing a way out of the last four (and riskiest) years of his contract.

]]> By: kimonizer http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/davidoff-on-ccs-opt-out-6269/#comment-226367 kimonizer Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:58:11 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6269#comment-226367 That already happened earlier today with Kruk on ESPN saying that the Rodriguez signing was better and more important than the Sabathia signing. That already happened earlier today with Kruk on ESPN saying that the Rodriguez signing was better and more important than the Sabathia signing.

]]> By: The RAB Radio Show - December 10, 2008 - Episode 6 | River Avenue Blues http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/davidoff-on-ccs-opt-out-6269/#comment-226332 The RAB Radio Show - December 10, 2008 - Episode 6 | River Avenue Blues Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:00:18 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6269#comment-226332 [...] It was an exciting day in Yankeeland, as the team acquired their #1 target of the off-season, one Casten Charles Sabathia. We talk about the deal, how the Yanks got to it, and of course the opt-out. [...] [...] It was an exciting day in Yankeeland, as the team acquired their #1 target of the off-season, one Casten Charles Sabathia. We talk about the deal, how the Yanks got to it, and of course the opt-out. [...]

]]> By: Sabathia and Yanks Near 7 Year/$161 Million Deal « jockr http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/davidoff-on-ccs-opt-out-6269/#comment-226320 Sabathia and Yanks Near 7 Year/$161 Million Deal « jockr Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:54:05 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6269#comment-226320 [...] specimen of a man slip out of his hands. The Yankee blogosphere is now wringing its hands over the opt-out clause that is reported to be part of the contract which will allow CC to opt out in 2011, but to be [...] [...] specimen of a man slip out of his hands. The Yankee blogosphere is now wringing its hands over the opt-out clause that is reported to be part of the contract which will allow CC to opt out in 2011, but to be [...]

]]> By: Phil McCracken http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/davidoff-on-ccs-opt-out-6269/#comment-226318 Phil McCracken Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:53:36 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6269#comment-226318 If Burnett can't stay healthy at 32, he should make Pavano look like a Purple Heart winner when he's 37. If Burnett can’t stay healthy at 32, he should make Pavano look like a Purple Heart winner when he’s 37.

]]> By: Phil McCracken http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/davidoff-on-ccs-opt-out-6269/#comment-226311 Phil McCracken Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:50:15 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6269#comment-226311 If Putz can stay healthy. If Putz can stay healthy.

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