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		<title>By: D.B.H.O.F. the word conservationist</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/heyman-yanks-in-on-teixeira-manram-6330/#comment-233170</link>
		<dc:creator>D.B.H.O.F. the word conservationist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not care what teams in cheap towns with horrible owners that have tons more money than George and Co ever had think about deals.  

As a team our favorite team has the most money (yet our owners are not the richest) because it spends money on it&#039;s product.  I get that, I appreciate that.

I am not against getting the best player available even if it is ONLY because we have the most money.  

My point was we have MANY players on this team who have record contracts at their positions.  And the numbers dwarf the old record numbers in most cases.  We bid against ourselves to get Alex back after the optout (the preopt out deal was great biz as the rangers were still paying a good grip of that paper), we bid against outselves to get Mo to stay here, we bid against ourselves to get CC when we already had the highest offer by 40 million on the table and then STILL give him an opt out.

So if this is all about blowing people out of the water now, blow Manny out of the water with a one or two year CRAZY money offer.  We need that bat.

Bob Watson, and J.R. Cash Money (before he became his own man like he is now, and before the Boss Jr Twins came into the picture) spent tons of money but did not just throw it at people when there was no need to.  We did have a great need for pitching but WE controlled the market and made an antsy move for CC.  So why not just jump at Manny?

Nah mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not care what teams in cheap towns with horrible owners that have tons more money than George and Co ever had think about deals.  </p>
<p>As a team our favorite team has the most money (yet our owners are not the richest) because it spends money on it&#8217;s product.  I get that, I appreciate that.</p>
<p>I am not against getting the best player available even if it is ONLY because we have the most money.  </p>
<p>My point was we have MANY players on this team who have record contracts at their positions.  And the numbers dwarf the old record numbers in most cases.  We bid against ourselves to get Alex back after the optout (the preopt out deal was great biz as the rangers were still paying a good grip of that paper), we bid against outselves to get Mo to stay here, we bid against ourselves to get CC when we already had the highest offer by 40 million on the table and then STILL give him an opt out.</p>
<p>So if this is all about blowing people out of the water now, blow Manny out of the water with a one or two year CRAZY money offer.  We need that bat.</p>
<p>Bob Watson, and J.R. Cash Money (before he became his own man like he is now, and before the Boss Jr Twins came into the picture) spent tons of money but did not just throw it at people when there was no need to.  We did have a great need for pitching but WE controlled the market and made an antsy move for CC.  So why not just jump at Manny?</p>
<p>Nah mean?</p>
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		<title>By: D.B.H.O.F. the word conservationist</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/heyman-yanks-in-on-teixeira-manram-6330/#comment-233166</link>
		<dc:creator>D.B.H.O.F. the word conservationist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We NEVER had a low payroll.&quot;

Did not say we did.  What I said was this:

&quot;The Yanks Dynasty teams were not made even mostly of big name free agents, or even big money trade guys. Plus our team was youthful in a lot of respects. Was a much better all around mix than this club is in my opinion.&quot;

Cone - big money trade guy (was traded by a team in our division who hates us so I have to think they felt they were getting some value at the time)

Clemens - big money trade guy (traded for a better big game pitcher, and an overall good to great pitcher at the time)

Tino - big money trade guy (was mostly a salary dump but they got one good prospect in the deal)

Knoblauch - big money trade guy (totally disagree here, the Twins got back value for Knobby)

Paulie - big money trade guy (TOTALLY inaccurate there.. we traded an all star player that was making pretty much the same money PLUS they gave us a prospect in the deal, this was in no way a salary dump)

Ruben Sierra - big money trade guy (rental for a decent prospect)

Cecil Fielder - big money trade guy (traded for the guy above PLUS a prospect so that kind of kills at least one of these arguments right there)

David Justice - big money trade guy (traded for the worst outfielder I have ever seen, and a damn good cheap pitcher that we could have used, yes money had something to do with this deal but it was not the ONLY thing)

John Wettland- big money trade guy (i recall this being a money dump of sorts but it was not a ton of money so this would not in any way fall into what I was talking about)

El Duque - big money free agent (was a very cheaply signed free agent, this was good scouting, I personally know some of the behind the scenes stuff here as a friend who I did business with at the time is related to the fellow who brought him and other Cuban players over... he could have seen that same money from other clubs if not more)

Jimmy Key - big money free agent (this one is correct, but it was a good signing and not an astronomical or game changing contract for pitchers, he could have and would have seen similar money with another team)

Wells - big money free agent (viewed as a risk and a bad signing by most when we got him, was not a very sought after guy in any respect at that time)

Irabu - big money free agent (uuh we got him in  a trade for what at the time were good prospects, and we then traded him after he was a bust, yet not that bad, more average to a tad better than average for GREAT PITCHING TALENT, again this is just wrong on your part)

Kenny Rogers - big money free agent (your best example of what you were trying to do, but then we traded him for Scotty B so even this worked out)

Really as per who you are you continue to try to attack everything I say yet you are dead wrong.

Nobody will read of see this was from yesterday.  But girl you know its true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We NEVER had a low payroll.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did not say we did.  What I said was this:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Yanks Dynasty teams were not made even mostly of big name free agents, or even big money trade guys. Plus our team was youthful in a lot of respects. Was a much better all around mix than this club is in my opinion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cone &#8211; big money trade guy (was traded by a team in our division who hates us so I have to think they felt they were getting some value at the time)</p>
<p>Clemens &#8211; big money trade guy (traded for a better big game pitcher, and an overall good to great pitcher at the time)</p>
<p>Tino &#8211; big money trade guy (was mostly a salary dump but they got one good prospect in the deal)</p>
<p>Knoblauch &#8211; big money trade guy (totally disagree here, the Twins got back value for Knobby)</p>
<p>Paulie &#8211; big money trade guy (TOTALLY inaccurate there.. we traded an all star player that was making pretty much the same money PLUS they gave us a prospect in the deal, this was in no way a salary dump)</p>
<p>Ruben Sierra &#8211; big money trade guy (rental for a decent prospect)</p>
<p>Cecil Fielder &#8211; big money trade guy (traded for the guy above PLUS a prospect so that kind of kills at least one of these arguments right there)</p>
<p>David Justice &#8211; big money trade guy (traded for the worst outfielder I have ever seen, and a damn good cheap pitcher that we could have used, yes money had something to do with this deal but it was not the ONLY thing)</p>
<p>John Wettland- big money trade guy (i recall this being a money dump of sorts but it was not a ton of money so this would not in any way fall into what I was talking about)</p>
<p>El Duque &#8211; big money free agent (was a very cheaply signed free agent, this was good scouting, I personally know some of the behind the scenes stuff here as a friend who I did business with at the time is related to the fellow who brought him and other Cuban players over&#8230; he could have seen that same money from other clubs if not more)</p>
<p>Jimmy Key &#8211; big money free agent (this one is correct, but it was a good signing and not an astronomical or game changing contract for pitchers, he could have and would have seen similar money with another team)</p>
<p>Wells &#8211; big money free agent (viewed as a risk and a bad signing by most when we got him, was not a very sought after guy in any respect at that time)</p>
<p>Irabu &#8211; big money free agent (uuh we got him in  a trade for what at the time were good prospects, and we then traded him after he was a bust, yet not that bad, more average to a tad better than average for GREAT PITCHING TALENT, again this is just wrong on your part)</p>
<p>Kenny Rogers &#8211; big money free agent (your best example of what you were trying to do, but then we traded him for Scotty B so even this worked out)</p>
<p>Really as per who you are you continue to try to attack everything I say yet you are dead wrong.</p>
<p>Nobody will read of see this was from yesterday.  But girl you know its true.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t talk like that about Manny. He&#039;s no longer with the Red Sox and we have a chance of signing him now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t talk like that about Manny. He&#8217;s no longer with the Red Sox and we have a chance of signing him now.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manny made Ortiz great and Ortiz made Manny great.  They complemented each other.  We need that for A-Rod.  Manny can do that.  If not Manny and Tex is gone, then that leaves Dunn.  I need more convincing here about Dunn.  Ben, convince me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manny made Ortiz great and Ortiz made Manny great.  They complemented each other.  We need that for A-Rod.  Manny can do that.  If not Manny and Tex is gone, then that leaves Dunn.  I need more convincing here about Dunn.  Ben, convince me.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sticking it to the Sox AND Sticking it to the Dodgers/Torre, while adding one of the best hitters in baseball?


Priceless.  

(or $75mil/3 years)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sticking it to the Sox AND Sticking it to the Dodgers/Torre, while adding one of the best hitters in baseball?</p>
<p>Priceless.  </p>
<p>(or $75mil/3 years)</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/heyman-yanks-in-on-teixeira-manram-6330/#comment-232628</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought manny was a horrible teammate long before the red sox ran him out of town.  The fact that that contract ended the way it did is a very bad sign, i know we love to blame the red sox FO for everything but the dude honestly quit playing he would&#039;ve been totally crucified if he did that in NY, and there is no saying he wouldn&#039;t.
Bottom line I hated everything about this man for years, and not because he was a red sock, and not because he could kill us with his bat.  I hated him for the way he played the game, i hated the way he gawked at his HR&#039;s, i hated the way he would dog plays in the field, then not give a crap the he screwed up, I hate the way he continually does stupid shit and everyone says its Manny being Manny.  How many times did the red sox cover his shit up and accept.  I dont want to have to accept it, I dont want to have to say about a yankee its just manny being manny.
We dont need him.  We do need a bat and while he is not as good, Dunn will help us win without the headache and for half the cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought manny was a horrible teammate long before the red sox ran him out of town.  The fact that that contract ended the way it did is a very bad sign, i know we love to blame the red sox FO for everything but the dude honestly quit playing he would&#8217;ve been totally crucified if he did that in NY, and there is no saying he wouldn&#8217;t.<br />
Bottom line I hated everything about this man for years, and not because he was a red sock, and not because he could kill us with his bat.  I hated him for the way he played the game, i hated the way he gawked at his HR&#8217;s, i hated the way he would dog plays in the field, then not give a crap the he screwed up, I hate the way he continually does stupid shit and everyone says its Manny being Manny.  How many times did the red sox cover his shit up and accept.  I dont want to have to accept it, I dont want to have to say about a yankee its just manny being manny.<br />
We dont need him.  We do need a bat and while he is not as good, Dunn will help us win without the headache and for half the cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam Dunn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam Dunn</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/heyman-yanks-in-on-teixeira-manram-6330/#comment-232624</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides &quot;there are no words for that&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides &#8220;there are no words for that&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/heyman-yanks-in-on-teixeira-manram-6330/#comment-232614</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, and with RIDICULOUS UPSIDE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, and with RIDICULOUS UPSIDE!</p>
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		<title>By: kimonizer</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimonizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see if I can take two of the most racially-loaded stereotype characters and slam them into one racist caricature. Look!! I can!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see if I can take two of the most racially-loaded stereotype characters and slam them into one racist caricature. Look!! I can!!</p>
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