Comments on: Manny being ridiculous http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/manny-being-ridiclous-6286/ A New York Yankees Blog Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:06:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Open Thread: Dodgers interested in Abreu | River Avenue Blues http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/manny-being-ridiclous-6286/#comment-243861 Open Thread: Dodgers interested in Abreu | River Avenue Blues Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:00:47 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6286#comment-243861 [...] Manny’s painted himself into a corner and has two options: go crawling back to Coletti, or retire. I’m very interested in seeing how this one plays [...] [...] Manny’s painted himself into a corner and has two options: go crawling back to Coletti, or retire. I’m very interested in seeing how this one plays [...]

]]> By: ceciguante http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/manny-being-ridiclous-6286/#comment-228039 ceciguante Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:06:14 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6286#comment-228039 to bluntly reply: your reading comprehension needs work, b/c you missed my point entirely. jeter wasn't the right example for good defense. but then, i didn't use him as an example of good defense. i used him as an example of good fundamentals. are you saying he doesn't exhibit those? is that what you mean by "load of crap"? to bluntly reply: your reading comprehension needs work, b/c you missed my point entirely. jeter wasn’t the right example for good defense. but then, i didn’t use him as an example of good defense. i used him as an example of good fundamentals. are you saying he doesn’t exhibit those? is that what you mean by “load of crap”?

]]> By: Ben K. http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/manny-being-ridiclous-6286/#comment-227989 Ben K. Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:39:00 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6286#comment-227989 To put it bluntly, that's a load of crap. Jeter may have sound fundamentals, but he's pretty bad in the field. You don't need stats to know that; if you watch enough games, you can see it with your own eyes. Give me a break. You can only take some bogus anti-stats argument so far before it loses any plausibility. To put it bluntly, that’s a load of crap. Jeter may have sound fundamentals, but he’s pretty bad in the field. You don’t need stats to know that; if you watch enough games, you can see it with your own eyes. Give me a break. You can only take some bogus anti-stats argument so far before it loses any plausibility.

]]> By: ceciguante http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/manny-being-ridiclous-6286/#comment-227988 ceciguante Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:31:03 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6286#comment-227988 i like this reasoning. let's also not forget that defense doesn't slump against good pitching. it seems that october (or critical reg season) pitching duels magnify the importance of defense relative to offensve, b/c when the good pitching shows up (i.e., beckett v. joba in that 1-0 game in july), the OPS stats go out the window and the smaller things make the difference. so building a winning team is not just about adding the OPS or VORP of a lineup to see which team's better -- it's also about whether a team can win different types of games with different skills. balance is critical (BA, OBP, SLG, defense, speed, pitching). recent yanks teams have lacked that balance. don't forget that manny's skill set enhances the yanks' team weaknesses (defense, speed, age), and adds to areas of relative strength. pass!! btw, this is what concerns me about players like cano and giambi and dunn, and why every writer in america gushes over the jeters and pedroias of the league: fundamentals. the stats don't capture that stuff, as far as i know. i like this reasoning.
let’s also not forget that defense doesn’t slump against good pitching. it seems that october (or critical reg season) pitching duels magnify the importance of defense relative to offensve, b/c when the good pitching shows up (i.e., beckett v. joba in that 1-0 game in july), the OPS stats go out the window and the smaller things make the difference. so building a winning team is not just about adding the OPS or VORP of a lineup to see which team’s better — it’s also about whether a team can win different types of games with different skills. balance is critical (BA, OBP, SLG, defense, speed, pitching). recent yanks teams have lacked that balance. don’t forget that manny’s skill set enhances the yanks’ team weaknesses (defense, speed, age), and adds to areas of relative strength. pass!!

btw, this is what concerns me about players like cano and giambi and dunn, and why every writer in america gushes over the jeters and pedroias of the league: fundamentals. the stats don’t capture that stuff, as far as i know.

]]> By: Mike Pop http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/manny-being-ridiclous-6286/#comment-227910 Mike Pop Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:57:09 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6286#comment-227910 No right now it is Pujols No right now it is Pujols

]]> By: The Evil Dynasty http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/manny-being-ridiclous-6286/#comment-227905 The Evil Dynasty Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:43:01 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6286#comment-227905 Pujols will be the greatest hitter, but right now it's Manny. Pujols will be the greatest hitter, but right now it’s Manny.

]]> By: mike http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/manny-being-ridiclous-6286/#comment-227900 mike Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:38:40 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6286#comment-227900 Agreed but do we need more bats? I think we need more gloves. The game is won on both sides of the field and I think people do forget that sometimes. We are all enamored by offensive numbers and forget that it is only half of the game. I coach and sometimes I'd rather have a guy on my team that enables us not to make mistakes rather then a guy who at best hits a homerun 5% of the time... Agreed but do we need more bats? I think we need more gloves. The game is won on both sides of the field and I think people do forget that sometimes. We are all enamored by offensive numbers and forget that it is only half of the game. I coach and sometimes I’d rather have a guy on my team that enables us not to make mistakes rather then a guy who at best hits a homerun 5% of the time…

]]> By: jsbrendog http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/manny-being-ridiclous-6286/#comment-227888 jsbrendog Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:05:43 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6286#comment-227888 you have hurt madonna's feelings greatly. you have hurt madonna’s feelings greatly.

]]> By: jsbrendog http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/manny-being-ridiclous-6286/#comment-227887 jsbrendog Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:02:57 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6286#comment-227887 and were clutchy mcclutchertons whose hr MATTERED!11!11! and were clutchy mcclutchertons whose hr MATTERED!11!11!

]]> By: jsbrendog http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/manny-being-ridiclous-6286/#comment-227885 jsbrendog Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:58:33 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6286#comment-227885 plus it's MO. come on. he knew he would've been smote. plus it’s MO. come on. he knew he would’ve been smote.

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