Comments on: Midday rumor round-up: Teixeira, Pettitte and Keith Law http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/midday-rumor-round-up-teixeira-pettitte-and-keith-law-6263/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 07:19:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: LeftyLarry http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/midday-rumor-round-up-teixeira-pettitte-and-keith-law-6263/#comment-226095 LeftyLarry Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:52:03 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6263#comment-226095 hat does Barry Zito and his 88 MPH fastball have to do with Burnett and his 9'5-97 MPH fastball and unhittable curve? ZIto never had the arm Burnett has and Burnett has learned how to pitch finally. He's still just 31 as we speak and is just hitting his peak. hat does Barry Zito and his 88 MPH fastball have to do with Burnett and his 9’5-97 MPH fastball and unhittable curve?
ZIto never had the arm Burnett has and Burnett has learned how to pitch finally.
He’s still just 31 as we speak and is just hitting his peak.

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/midday-rumor-round-up-teixeira-pettitte-and-keith-law-6263/#comment-225780 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:31:29 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6263#comment-225780 <b>Dude, didn’t Barry Zito used to be good? That might skew it a little.</b> Yes. And yet, even with 2 great years of Barry Zito (2000 and 2002), four solid years of Barry Zito (2001, 2003, 2005, and 2006), one average year of Barry Zito (2004), and two horridly craptastical years of Barry Zito (2007 and 2008, in the WEAKER NL), he still has a better career ERA+ than A.J. Burnett. That should scare us. The fact that Barry Zito has been one of the worst pitchers in baseball the past two years, with 196 innings of a 4.53 ERA in '07 and 180 innings of a 5.15 ERA in 2008, both in the NL West, and he STILL has a better career ERA+ than A.J. Burnett probably means that A.J. Burnett is just not that good of a pitcher and we should not be giving him 5 years... <i>...and all that is assuming he stays healthy.</i> Dude, didn’t Barry Zito used to be good? That might skew it a little.

Yes. And yet, even with 2 great years of Barry Zito (2000 and 2002), four solid years of Barry Zito (2001, 2003, 2005, and 2006), one average year of Barry Zito (2004), and two horridly craptastical years of Barry Zito (2007 and 2008, in the WEAKER NL), he still has a better career ERA+ than A.J. Burnett.

That should scare us.

The fact that Barry Zito has been one of the worst pitchers in baseball the past two years, with 196 innings of a 4.53 ERA in ’07 and 180 innings of a 5.15 ERA in 2008, both in the NL West, and he STILL has a better career ERA+ than A.J. Burnett probably means that A.J. Burnett is just not that good of a pitcher and we should not be giving him 5 years…

…and all that is assuming he stays healthy.

]]> By: Rob http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/midday-rumor-round-up-teixeira-pettitte-and-keith-law-6263/#comment-225773 Rob Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:23:34 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6263#comment-225773 No one probably cares, but, I'm going to throw it out there anyway. Now that we locked up sabathia for more than I thought we would have to spend, why not resign pettitte to a 10-12 million dollar deal, and sign Sheet for a 2 yr 30 mil deal with possible incentives or a 3rd year option based on innings pitched. That would then amount to approx. 50 million spent on free agents and a solid rotation with 3 innings eaters in Sabathia, Wang, and Pettitte, one great pitcher who will be inning limited, and a high risk/high reward guy in Sheets. If Sheets does go down, atleast we have insurance with Hughes, Kennedy, and Aceves waiting in the wings. Also, that will leave a significant amount of money to shore up the offense with one power move of signing Manny. I'm not the biggest fan but the guy can flat out hit and would really change the entire look of the offense. Offer many a 2-3yr deal in the range of 50-75 mil, and then you have a total free agent spending of 75 million. Final product: Sabathia Wang Sheets Joba Pettitte LF-Damon SS-Jeter DH-Manny 3B-Arod 2B-Cano C-Posada 1B-Swisher RF-Nady CF-Gardner That is a ridiculous rotation and a great lineup, and the team will have saved money off the books from last year. I know Matsui wont figure to get much playing time here, but the difference in offense between Manny and Matsui is huge, and Matsui's and Damon's contracts are up at the end of next year. No one probably cares, but, I’m going to throw it out there anyway. Now that we locked up sabathia for more than I thought we would have to spend, why not resign pettitte to a 10-12 million dollar deal, and sign Sheet for a 2 yr 30 mil deal with possible incentives or a 3rd year option based on innings pitched. That would then amount to approx. 50 million spent on free agents and a solid rotation with 3 innings eaters in Sabathia, Wang, and Pettitte, one great pitcher who will be inning limited, and a high risk/high reward guy in Sheets. If Sheets does go down, atleast we have insurance with Hughes, Kennedy, and Aceves waiting in the wings. Also, that will leave a significant amount of money to shore up the offense with one power move of signing Manny. I’m not the biggest fan but the guy can flat out hit and would really change the entire look of the offense. Offer many a 2-3yr deal in the range of 50-75 mil, and then you have a total free agent spending of 75 million. Final product:

Sabathia
Wang
Sheets
Joba
Pettitte

LF-Damon
SS-Jeter
DH-Manny
3B-Arod
2B-Cano
C-Posada
1B-Swisher
RF-Nady
CF-Gardner

That is a ridiculous rotation and a great lineup, and the team will have saved money off the books from last year. I know Matsui wont figure to get much playing time here, but the difference in offense between Manny and Matsui is huge, and Matsui’s and Damon’s contracts are up at the end of next year.

]]> By: Jack http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/midday-rumor-round-up-teixeira-pettitte-and-keith-law-6263/#comment-225692 Jack Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:30:10 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6263#comment-225692 Dude, didn't Barry Zito used to be good? That might skew it a little. Dude, didn’t Barry Zito used to be good? That might skew it a little.

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/midday-rumor-round-up-teixeira-pettitte-and-keith-law-6263/#comment-225690 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:28:44 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6263#comment-225690 Lloyd, you're currently 0 for 3. Stop while you're behind. Lloyd, you’re currently 0 for 3.

Stop while you’re behind.

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/midday-rumor-round-up-teixeira-pettitte-and-keith-law-6263/#comment-225689 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:28:17 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6263#comment-225689 http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/the-peavy-rumor-that-just-wont-die-6225/#comment-223908 http://riveraveblues.com/2008/.....ent-223908

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/midday-rumor-round-up-teixeira-pettitte-and-keith-law-6263/#comment-225688 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:27:50 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6263#comment-225688 http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/rumor-os-reds-trade-done-6233/#comment-223865 http://riveraveblues.com/2008/.....ent-223865

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/midday-rumor-round-up-teixeira-pettitte-and-keith-law-6263/#comment-225682 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:23:50 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6263#comment-225682 <b>He’s gone on to the next level as a pitcher...</b> A.J. Burnett's career ERA+ is lower than Barry Zito's. Let me say that again... A.J. BURNETT'S CAREER ERA+ IS LOWER THAN BARRY ZITO'S. Oh, and his 2008 ERA+ is LOWER than his career norm. He’s gone on to the next level as a pitcher…

A.J. Burnett’s career ERA+ is lower than Barry Zito’s.

Let me say that again…

A.J. BURNETT’S CAREER ERA+ IS LOWER THAN BARRY ZITO’S.

Oh, and his 2008 ERA+ is LOWER than his career norm.

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/midday-rumor-round-up-teixeira-pettitte-and-keith-law-6263/#comment-225676 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:18:45 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6263#comment-225676 Don't forget that besides Damon/Matsui leaving next year, Molina's gone, and Mariano should be retiring the year after that. There's another 17M of expiring money for Holliday... Don’t forget that besides Damon/Matsui leaving next year, Molina’s gone, and Mariano should be retiring the year after that. There’s another 17M of expiring money for Holliday…

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/midday-rumor-round-up-teixeira-pettitte-and-keith-law-6263/#comment-225669 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:15:09 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6263#comment-225669 <b>I still think we can assemble a reasonable package. Start with Kennedy, Nady + salary relief, Cervelli, and a couple of reasonably projectable guys (I’d be willing to put Betances here, myself), and I think we have a starting point. </b> Perhaps. But I imagine somebody, anybody would trump that... And no, even though Betances is far away, I don't think I'd include him. With CC-Wang-Joba + Hughes, Peavy becomes a luxury. Perhaps if it was IPK and Betances with minor pieces, yeah, I'd bite. I just don't see the Pads biting on that. But sure, I can be persuaded to remove Betances from my untouchable list. So, revised untouchables: Cano, Hughes, Brackman, Montero, Jackson. If the Padres will move Peavy without getting any of those 5 players, I'll bite. I still think we can assemble a reasonable package. Start with Kennedy, Nady + salary relief, Cervelli, and a couple of reasonably projectable guys (I’d be willing to put Betances here, myself), and I think we have a starting point.

Perhaps. But I imagine somebody, anybody would trump that… And no, even though Betances is far away, I don’t think I’d include him. With CC-Wang-Joba + Hughes, Peavy becomes a luxury. Perhaps if it was IPK and Betances with minor pieces, yeah, I’d bite. I just don’t see the Pads biting on that.

But sure, I can be persuaded to remove Betances from my untouchable list. So, revised untouchables:

Cano, Hughes, Brackman, Montero, Jackson. If the Padres will move Peavy without getting any of those 5 players, I’ll bite.

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