Open Thread: Oh! and sixteen

Open Thread: Jets playing for their season
It's Melvin Croussett's birthday!!!

Man, be glad you aren’t a Lions’ fan. That’s brutal.

The winter leagues are just about all wrapped up, and with the New Year right around the corner it’s time to pack up DotF for the winter. See you in April.

  • Abe Almonte: 1 for 3, 1 RBI, 1 K in 3 games
  • Melky Cabrera: 29 for 93 (.312), 19 R, 6 2B, 1 HR, 12 RBI, 13 BB, 14 K, 2 SB in 24 games
  • Robbie Cano: 20 for 75 (.267), 14 R, 8 2B, 1 HR, 15 RBI, 7 BB, 7 K, 1 SB, 1 HBP in 19 games
  • Frankie Cervelli: 14 for 55 (.255), 9 R, 2 2B, 1 HR, 3 RBI, 9 BB, 13 K, 1 SB, 1 CS, 1 HBP in 24 games
  • Edwar Gonzalez: 27 for 75 (.360), 5 2B, 1 3B, 4 HR, 11 RBI, 5 BB, 16 K, 3 RB, 1 HBP in 28 games
  • Walt Ibarra: 15 for 80 (.188), 3 R, 2 RBI, 7 BB, 20 K, 4 SB, 1 CS in 37 games
  • Ramiro Pena: 37 for 132 (.280), 15 R, 4 2B, 2 HR, 11 RBI, 3 BB, 14 K, 1 SB, 1 CS, 2 HBP in 36 games
  • Jorge Vazquez: 69 for 198 (.348), 37 R, 12 2B, 15 HR, 46 RBI, 23 BB, 50 K, 2 HBP in 54 games
  • Jon Albaladejo: 17.2 IP, 11 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 15 K, 1 WP in 16 appearances
  • Wilkins Arias: 12.2 IP, 16 H, 16 R, 15 ER, 9 BB, 14 K, 1 HB, 2 WP in 17 appearances

Use this as your Open Thread tonight. The Broncos and Chargers play at 8:15pm, winner wins the AFC West and goes to the postseason, loser goes home. Should be a good one in America’s Finest City.

Oh, and before I forget: I’m covering for longtime RAB reader Dave over at his recently launched site, Blueseat Blogs, while he enjoys a little holiday vacation this week. I’m barely keeping my head above water there, but Dave has been doing some great stuff for a few weeks now. Make sure you check it out if you’re a hockey fan. Heck, check it out even if you aren’t.

Open Thread: Jets playing for their season
It's Melvin Croussett's birthday!!!
  • Will

    Oh no, Cano!
    What’s going on here? Wrong direction amigo.

    • Ryan S.

      Yeah, he was batting over .300 last time I saw his stats. That’s disappointing to see him end like that.

      • Steve H

        Sample size. Those 75 ab’s represent 12.5% of a MLB season.

        • Ryan S.

          I was just hoping for him to end the winter leagues at a .300 clip. He was on pace to do so for the most part at least.

          • Steve H

            I can see that, I just hope no one reads too much into the stats. You’re not, but I’m sure there’ll be people who think we should have traded Cano for Cliff Lee and Grady when we had the chance now that he sucks and can only hit .267 in the winter league.

            • TheLastClown

              Well, I mean, no matter how good Robbie is, I feel like a premiere CF is more valuable than a premiere 2B. And if it came with a slightly above league average Cliff Lee *who thinks he’s going to be a perennial Cy Young candidate?* then even 2007 Robbie Cano < Grady + Lee

              BTW, when did the Yanks have the opportunity to make this trade?

              • Steve H

                Never. But it’s amazing what people can come up with when they decide player A is a bust, we should have traded him for ……. when we had the chance.

              • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

                Last time I checked neither Cano or Kemp are premier anything (if you were indeed talking about Kemp as far the CF thing)

                Would I take a premier CF for Cano, yes sir. Would anybody trade us a premier CF for Cano at this time or date, no sir.

                • TheLastClown

                  Much later, for posterity…I was talking about Grady Sizemore for CF, and it was in response to a hypothetical about a non-trade.

                • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

                  Ok cool I did not really get that whole convo. I personally never wanted to trade Cano but I do feel like if he continues to not get how the game is played and just gives away at bats and plays uneven baseball in the field I would be in favor or getting rid of him.

            • Ryan S.

              Yes…those type of knee jerk reactions are inevitable of course, but its all good. Looks like all in all, Robbie’s new mechanics are working out for him. I get into debates with my dad all the time whether Robbie is a bum or not. This is a big year for Cano, he’s been in the league long enough that its fair to expect a consistently good performance for him all season long. He’ll probably always be a slow starter but I want to see at least 5 months worth of solid performance from him.

              • Mike Pop

                Ya he cant fuck up this year. Make or break him in 09

  • Ryan S.

    Meanwhile, look at how Albie is doing! WOW. He should be a great asset to what is already a very good bullpen.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      Yeah, I’m very encouraged by that. I hope he has a big year.

      • Ryan S.

        As great as the bullpen was last year, I’m just as excited about it this year.

        To be able to have a full season of Bruney, Coke, Marte, and Albie, and NO Latroy Hawkins?

        I like the sound of that.

        • Ryan S.

          I didn’t even feel the need to mention we have the greatest closer in the history of baseball, still functioning at an elite level … there will never be another guy like Rivera – its just a given that if we have the lead in the 9th inning, the game is pretty much ours.

          • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

            Last season was fucking unreal from Mo. SIX WALKS?!

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              And three of them came in the span of ten appearances. That means he walked three batters total in his other 54 appearances.

              We are not worthy.

              • Mike Pop

                Mosanna in the highest

                • Ryan S.

                  After seeing him this year, its making me think he’s gonna be good for more than just the two more years he’s locked in for. Thoughts?

                • Mike Pop

                  Ya he looked great but anything can happen. He could suck next year, who knows

                • Ryan S.

                  Blasphemy.

  • Paulie

    Not such a great average but 7 walks. If he could keep up the walks during a 600 ab season he would have 56 walks instead of 26 (2007 BB).

    • Paulie

      oops not (2007 BB), (2008 BB)

    • yanks27in09

      but the pitching there is terrible compared to MLB.

      • TheLastClown

        Weren’t they working on using a new batting stance for Robbie? It would make sense that his BA would suffer if he is implementing new mechanics.

        Maybe the 1:1 K/BB ration has something to do with that? It’s certainly a departure from the Robbie Cano we all know and love/have been frustrated with.

        • Ryan S.

          Yes, new batting stance for Cano. He kicked ass in September when he had the new stance, and he was doing great for the first few weeks in the DWL.

          And yes, his improved K/BB ratio is definitely a result of the adjustments he made. The point of the new stance was to allow him to have more time to see the ball coming before he committed to swing or not.

          • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

            Anybody know if Cano has been working on his D at all this winter? I mean more than normal??

            Anyone? Anyone?

            • Steve H

              Don’t know, but I really think most of his defensive miscues come from a lack of focus, not necessarily physical errors. Hopefully an improved offensive performance will keep him in the game on defense as well.

            • Ryan S.

              Cano has been a DH for the entire the DWL, so … probably not much.

  • Ryan S.

    So, The Cowboys and Patriots are not in the playoffs. The Falcons and Dolphins are in the playoffs. Holy shit, what a difference a year makes.

  • Jesus

    0-16? The NFL needs a salary cap to even the playing field.

    • 27 this year

      nice one. Watch, next year, they are going to the playoffs and everyone is going to be like OMG we need a salary cap to make that possible. Oh wait, the Rays did it…

    • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

      LOL. I think the NFL is a boring league because there are no super teams anymore. I personally like to see dominant teams in sports or I feel like I am watching a minor league sport. I am not the biggest NFL fan though.

  • Joey H

    What is there to know about Jorge Vazquez?

    • 27 this year

      I don’t think there is anything to know. Probably a organization filler.

      • Joey H

        Well maybe its just me but .348 and 14 home runs grabs my attention.

      • Andy In Sunny Daytona

        He’s a brand new signing.

    • lasso

      here is something I found on him (about halfway down the page)
      http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=113815&page=12

      I don’t know how much of that to believe, but it’s intriguing non the less.

  • Manimal

    Who will have the better bullpen in 08, Yankees or Rays. Both have a lot of talent and potential and are young.

    • Ryan S.

      Yanks.

      Even before we factor in anything else, there’s the issue of Mariano Rivera vs. Troy Percival as the closer. So, yeah, that settles that.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I think the Yanks’ reliever have more upside, but the Rays relievers are pretty steady. You know what you’re going to get out of Wheeler, Bradford, and for the most part Howell and Percival.

      Mo is a given, and Marte is pretty predictable, but after that it’s a bit of a crapshoot. A high upside crapshoot, but still a crapshoot.

      • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

        “Mo is a given, and Marte is pretty predictable, but after that it’s a bit of a crapshoot. A high upside crapshoot, but still a crapshoot.”

        Agreed. I think that is one of our only areas where people could outperform expectations. That is a big problem with this franchise, almost everybody has some super duper gaudy career year stats, and is expected to duplicate them every year due to the money they make. The pen, and if the fifth slot in our rotation is filled by a kid not named Hughes will have medium expectations.

      • Ryan S.

        I’ll take this pen’s upside over the Rays’ “steadiness” in a minute and if Howell as proven himself as a reliever, than so has Veras.

        Also, Mo is a rock, and the consistency he brings as a closer surpasses any other reliever being discussed here, so even the argument that the Rays BP is more reliable, is debatable.

        • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

          Yeah Mo is an anchor that is not matched by any two pitchers combined in Tampa as of yet.

      • Andy In Sunny Daytona

        I’m still bitter Mike.

  • Ricky

    Let’s go Broncos!!! Biggest Broncos fan that’s a Yanks fan too here!!!!

  • Jake H

    I’m liking that he is hitting some doubles and keeping his bb to k rate a 1.

  • Joey H

    Hm so Jorge Vazquez would be interesting for 2010. Any chance?

  • Mike Pop

    Man, I love the Tom Green show.

    • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

      He still has a show? Have not heard about him in a good ten years it seems.

      • Mike Pop

        Youtube

        • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

          Like as in youtube only? I guess youtube is the modern version of cable access yet with the ability to reach everybody anywhere (except me on my commodore 64)

          • Mike Pop

            I think he has an online show but not many watch it

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      WHEN I SAY COFFEE, YOU SAY MACHINE!

  • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

    Just heard that Andy Philips signed a minor league deal with the Pirates. Not sure if this is news, but it was new to me. I heard he was on the verge of a deal with them but I assumed it was a major league deal, guess it is not.

    • GG

      If im the pirates, I’m definitely going with the LaRoche LaRoche connection at the corner rather than Phillips.

  • ‘The’ Steve

    “Red Sox Close To One-Year Deal With Penny
    By Tim Dierkes [December 28 at 4:07pm CST]

    According to Ken Rosenthal, the Red Sox are close to signing Brad Penny to a one-year deal. The two sides are still hammering out the agreement, and Penny would have to pass a physical. In November, the Dodgers chose Penny’s $2MM buyout over his $8.75MM club option.

    Penny, 31 in May, dealt with shoulder and forearm pain all year. The Red Sox have a sophisticated system for dealing with pitching shoulders, so it’s an interesting match.
    Ian Browne of MLB.com expands on Rosenthal’s report. Browne notes that Penny in Boston would reunite him with fellow starter Josh Beckett and third baseman Mike Lowell, both of whom Penny played with as a Florida Marlin. The three were on the 2003 World Series-winning squad. ”

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/red-sox-close-t.html

    • steve (different one)

      decent signing for them.

      • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

        To me it is only decent if its for almost no money and only incentives (plus the obvious minimum or near minimum for a player with his service time)

        I never liked Brad Penny so me seeing him in a Sox uni will work for me.

        • ‘The’ Steve

          When healthy, Penny is a terrific pitcher. He just wasn’t healthy at all last year. Its almost like signing Mark Prior. If he returns to form, its a steal. If not, you didn’t spend much on him.

          • Steve H

            And Penny has a much better chance of being healthy than Prior as well.

            • ‘The’ Steve

              Yeah, well Prior’s a lost cause at this point.

              Penny had shoulder issues last year and pitched horribly as a result. Shoulders can be minor or career threatening, so the physical will be a big key here.

              Also, how willing Penny is to work hard is a big factor as well. Sometimes they can strengthen the surrounding area as the Yanks did w/Wang. If he needs surgery, how hard he works in rehab can be key as well. Penny’s always had a rep for tiring late in games, so you wonder how committed he is to working out.

              • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

                Is it just me or does Penny seem out of shape? Never been around the dude personally (seen him at the ballpark) but he always looked a lil fat the last few years on TV. Now that just might be his body type but that coupled with the injury and also in the back of my mind is how he just left the Dodgers without saying a word (that is what was reported and Joe Torre said as much)

              • Ryan S.

                As long as he is in on the Red Sox, I have to be paranoid and expect he’s going to pitch as good as did in 2007. That would displease me.

                • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

                  Ryan, I understand that feeling. But I doubt this will come to fruition. I think this is this years Bartolo Colon signing (which I think was a good one given the money outlay and risk involved in both cases)

                  I do not understand why the Yanks do not do this sort of deal much. Is it because people in this situation would rather sign with the Sox these days? Or am I missing something?

                • Ryan S.

                  I doubt it as well, and yeah, I saw the parallel between Colon and Penny signings … except Penny actually has a shot to be ok. Colon I never worried about.

                  I wouldn’t want the Yankees to do this deal though, not unless it was for a minor league contract and it looks like Penny is being guaranteed a spot. We should be taking more fliers on guys we can give minor league deals to. I liked the Kevin Cash signing, for example.

                • Mike Pop

                  Ya, Mitre I liked. Why not throw something at Mulder and Prior. Maybe Prior can go to the pen who knows. I know he is probably done but it is crazy that he is only 27. Something could come back

                • ‘The’ Steve

                  I must admit I was surprised at the amount they guaranteed him. 5 mil is a pretty serious commitment. Sounds like they think he’s healthy. If he is, they have themselves a good pitcher.

                • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

                  “We should be taking more fliers on guys we can give minor league deals to. I liked the Kevin Cash signing, for example.”

                  I really just dont get why we do not do this more here. We seem to do this during the year when the better of these types are already in teams systems. Why not go after them like the Sox do? Do people respect the Sox GM more? The pitching staff more? The coaching staff more? Not want to live in NY on a tiny contract? Think that if they are in the Yankees farm system they have no way out?

                  I just do not get what the answer is to this.

                • Ryan S.

                  Its such an obvious way to flex our financial might. Give fliers the highest minor league contract out there – what’s an extra $200K to us if that’s what it takes? All you need is to uncover one diamond every couple years to more than make up for all the junk you’ll end up with. I’m totally with you on this Donnie.

                • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

                  Ryan, that is why I think Cashman is not doing his total job. If he is not personally doing this shouldnt we have guys like Stick Michael and the other scouts pounding the pavement looking for these “diamonds”?

                  A lot of our “home grown” dynasty guys came from overseas situations where our $ and the teams name went far to sign the guy.

                  Cashman seems to not let anybody build up too much power underneath him in this organization which is smart to keep his job but I fear it it not smart if he wants to win a series of rings.

  • Ryan S.

    So, which authentic NYY jersey should I add to my collection: Sabathia or Teixeira. I need one of them.

    • steve (different one)

      i’d go with Teixeira. i was thinking the same thing yesterday, and Sabathia still has that opt-out.

      • Mike Pop

        Plus Teix plays everyday. That always factors into my decision.

        • Ryan S.

          I only have 2 pitching jerseys: Mo and Joba. I need another pitching one … I’m hoping Hughes performs well and I’d gladly buy his.

      • Ryan S.

        Ooooh…good point on the opt-out, and Tex is more of a sure thing. I like Sabathia more though … I’ll definitely have to get one of his in the future if he does us proud.

    • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

      You might want to wait at least a few months past April.

    • Joey H

      I already got CC if that helps. Why not get both?

    • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

      Forget them get Nick Swisher

      • Mike Pop

        Melky and Gardner baby !

        • Ryan S.

          Maybe I’ll just get a Jose Molina jersey!

          • Mike Pop

            Ransom !

      • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

        LOL VO that might be a uni that Swish himself never gets to wear.

  • ‘The’ Steve

    “The Yankees signed Mark Teixeira to an eight-year, $180MM contract. That means they’ve combined to spend over $420MM this offseason on three players, including C.C. Sabathia and A.J. Burnett. Does this make them a clear favorite in the division, though? I personally don’t feel like it does. Sabathia will essentially replace retired Mike Mussina’s 2009 production (he’ll be an upgrade, obviously, but Moose notched 20 wins in his final season), Burnett is a serious health liability, and adding Teixeira is a big improvement, but I don’t think he puts this team over the top. The Yankees have gotten better, but if I’m spending $420MM on three players, I’m making sure it makes me the team to beat, and I’m not sure they’ve done that.”

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/12/week-in-revie-2.html

    Interesting take, but I think he’s oversimplifying. With a healthy Wang, Hughes, Posada, Joba, a deeper bench with Swisher and the vastly improved fielding of Tex>Giambi, Nady>Abreu, Gardner>Cabrera/Damon and hopefully 2009 Cano>2008 Cano, they should be a much better all around team.

    • Ryan S.

      Don’t forget a healthy Matsuicide.

      • Mike Pop

        Matsuison

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Heh, this commercial cracks me up. Whenever I send it to all my friends who grew up outside on NY, they never get it.

    http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=47915124

  • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

    Latest word I heard on Penny is 5 Million and incentives. That is more than I would give a guy unless I thought he really could pitch. Maybe the Sox think his medical reports look promising.

    • Mike Pop

      Where you hear this ?

      • Mike Pop

        We shouldnt of let him go to Boston !!!! CASHMAN IS THE SUX!!

      • ‘The’ Steve
      • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

        Heard it from a friend whos cousin works for MLB. Have gotten good and bad info from him in the past but mostly good.

        • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

          Just found online more complete info on this:

          “McAdam has more on the Brad Penny deal, too. The agreement, a one-year deal with a base salary of $5MM, will be finalized Monday. Incentives and performance bonuses can increase the total deal another $3MM if Penny pitches more than 160 innings, McAdam reports.

          Penny, 31 in May, went 6-9 with a 6.27 ERA in 17 starts and two relief appearances in 2008 with the Los Angeles Dodgers. The right-hander played 4.5 seasons for the Dodgers. He played with the Florida Marlins from 2000 until he was traded in 2004.”

          Taken from MLBTradeRumors.com

    • Ryan S.

      Not enough risk and too much upside for me to like this deal for them. Can’t Omar or Billy steal him or something?

  • Januz

    I find this signing very interesting, Lowe would have been better, maybe even Smoltz or Oliver Perez. If you troll over to Sons of Sam Horn, and read comments, you will not exactly see happy campers. Since most Sox fans are willing to drink the Henry/Epstein Kool Aid every time, this is quite revealing. I like Lester and Dice-K as starters, but you now have three question marks on the mound in Penny, Wakefield, and Beckett. Plus question marks with Ortiz and Lowell. This team could fall apart real fast.

    • Mike Pop

      I dont think they made this move to just give him their 5th spot. Just some cheap depth

      • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

        Yeah I do not think this move prevents them for going after Smoltz (who I have always liked and will make me sick to see in a Sox unitard) or Lowe who I hope they sign for too many years for too much money. but I think the Mets will do that instead.

        • Ryan S.

          It really would be depressing to see Smoltz in Boston…ugh. I don’t want to think about it. I hope he signs with us or just stays in Atlanta.

          • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

            I doubt Smoltz signs here, and really I do not see the purpose of us signing him unless it was on the super cheap.

            I think with the Penny move Smoltz goes back to Atlanta. But I could still see it possibly happening where he goes to the Sox. The reason I think you bring in Pettitte is that you think he can pitch 200 innings if need be, nobody in baseball thinks that Smoltz will give them that so that is why I do not see him landing here. But if i could get Smoltz for 4 million or Pettitte for 10, with the young guys I got like Hughes I take Smoltz knowing that at some point Hughes will fill the spot.

    • Steve H

      Oliver Perez a better signing? I’d rather give Penny 1/$15m than give Perez 4/$50m+. And Smoltz has the same injury concerns as Penny. Maybe they are still bitter about Tex.

      • Ryan S.

        I don’t see Ollie going for 4/50 anymore. More like 3/36.

        • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

          I would still rather sign a guy who a big upside and tons of risk for a few millions than get Ollie or an Ollie type pitcher for even 3 at 36. The Sox already have cheap (market wise) good to great pitching locked up in their top three spots.

          That is really one of the major things Cashman needs to transition to over the next 3 to 5 years. If he can do that, the Sox have NO hope to compete.

          All the Yankees need to do is build a farm system that is on a level playing field with Boston and we will crush all their hopes and dreams. Now that is a huge task to take on but that should be the number one goal of this organization, now that we have a very competitive team in place for the next 3 years.

          • Steve H

            The good thing is that process has started. Boston got a 3 year head start, but I think the Yankees pitching depth in the minors can compete with the Sox. We need to work on building depth with position players now, and we may have to flip some of our pitching prospects to do that. The setback in 2008 will be worth it in the long run, we are rebuilding on the fly without giving up on the farm. That’s the great thing about the CC/Tex/Burnett signings. And the draft picks we lose aren’t extremely important. Because the Yankees are willing to pay over slot, they can get 1st and 2nd round talent (Betances) later in the draft, making up for the lack of high picks. The Sox have been practicing this for years as well.

            • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

              I agree with a lot of this, but the Sox are also willing to pay above slot and their recent pitching depth has had impact on their big club and even helped them win a WS. We also gave away our draft last year.

              A question I have for guys that really are educated on the whole draft process is this:

              If one year the class of players is much worse looking than the next year could you not just not sign guys so you could gain picks in the next years draft? I know in baseball it is harder to gauge guys ability and if they will continue to progress etc, just a crazy thought that came into my head.

          • Ryan S.

            I’d say Lowe at 3 or 4 years is your best bet at this point, but that may not gel with the Red Sox philosophy…Lowe will end up with the Mets and do a good job for them I bet.

            Our farm system is doing good and we’re fat with pitching. I think this year is when it really starts to pay significant dividends, even though its not like its been completely barren in the past few years w/ guys like Wang, Cano, and Joba as big pieces of this year’s roster … and maybe others.

    • Ryan S.

      Lowe, Sheets, Perez, Smoltz and even Randy Wolf are all guys I would all take over Penny, but at least he will take a 1 year contract, which I’m sure appeals to Epstein. They may go for one of those guys also … maybe Smoltz, another pitcher who probably only wants a 1 year deal. That would be interesting.

      • Reggie C.

        Epstein is probably saving up for next off-season’s posting fee on Darvish. That’s going to top the Dice-K fee.

  • Steve H
    • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

      Worked out pretty well for Penny. With the 5 mill he gets from the Sox and the 2 million go away money he got from the Dodgers he is close to what his option was for the Dodgers. Also if he pitches 160 innings he gets another 3 mill which would allow him to make a nice lil bit more than he would have if the Dodgers picked up his option.

      I guess my only question is why do the Sox value him so much more than the Dodgers do?

      • Ryan S.

        The Red Sox have a good amount of pocket money they can play with after losing Teixeira, and Dodgers would probably re-allocate the resources into the Manny fund.

        • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

          True.

    • Reggie C.

      that’s more money than i thought he’d get. its only a 1-year deal so its not a big deal. again, i just don’t know why the Mets didn’t go harder for him. Penny has shown he could pitch at a high level in the NL. He seemed like a good low-risk, high-reward type.

      • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

        I seriously think the Mets and Freddie Coupon are tapped out.

        • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

          I think they still have a hard on for Orlando Hudson for some reason. They’re not gonna get him unless they can move Castillo, obviously, but the argument can easily be made–I did it to a friend today–that Castillo is the better player.

          • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

            I think they will have difficulty in moving Castillo unless they pay his whole contract which if they were willing to do that why not just release the guy and sign who you want?

            I think Castillo has leg issues, and recovery issues which prevent him from being the player he was some 5 years ago.

  • Paulie

    IPK+(Swisher or Nady)+B prospect for Matt Kemp? Am I dreaming or being realistic. I know IPK has upside but I can’t stand his attitude (saying he pitched well after being bombed by the Angels).

    • Reggie C.

      you’ve got some crazy illusions in your REM cycle don’t ya..

      • Paulie

        I knew it, I am exhausted and my my started wandering away.

        • Paulie

          *my mind

        • Reggie C.

          Nah man. Not that Kemp is a Jay Bruce type talent or an excellent defensive CF, but there’s still some rawness to his game that the Dodgers can exploit. There’s simply no good reason for the Dodgers to sell low on him, when Kemp is one of those guys who could break out in big fashion and he’s under control for a while..

    • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Last Don

      Paulie I think that is a dream. While I do not highly value Kemp, no way the Dodgers trade him for that pile of mess.

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  • Old Ranger

    Lions fan for many years and many reasons.
    This is unacceptable, with the players they have. No way can anyone justify such a dismal season. This all starts at the top, half their draft choices have been really, really bad…Matt Mac should be hung by his balls. Every year it was the same (at draft time) one out of ten would be good, the rest…not so good.
    When one picks a player ranked (with everyone) number 78+ in the 2nd round, there is a big failure to communicate. This would happen every round except the first round (sometimes).
    I’ll always be a Lions fan but, if you very young Yankee fans think you have it bad….be a Lions fan!

  • marthafines

    Merry Christmas to all… and to all a good night.