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Does anyone know when Teixeira will have his physical and when he will have his press confrence?
Physical=Anytime. The conference is up in the air. After the 2009 starts for sure.
Love how Joey answers this same question incorrectly in the previous post, then answers it as if he knew it all along, lol.
So with AJ and CC locked up long term, and Wang bound to be locked up long term, our chances of getting this amazing Japanese Pitcher Yu Darvish who is said to want to be a Yankee are very low right?
Probably. If I remember correctly he’s going to stay in Japan for a couple of years. Kid seems like somethin special tho.
However, if CC opts out after 3…
Looks like pretty good timing to me.
Hasn’t C C been on the record saying he will be here for 7 years for the sake of his kids.
Thats assuming the Nippon Fighters wanna post him to the MLB. Otherwise you have to play for 9 years I think to become a real free agent. And while he’s good we also have to remember Japanese teams use their own smaller balls and the umps seem to have wider strike zones. While I dont doubt he’d be good here the numbers are a little inflated tho.
No shit it is inflated. But if he is like 25% worse in NY than he is in Japan he will be a nasty # 3 starter.
Well he is only 22 and hopefully he gets better with age. Even if he spends 4 or 5 more years in Japan, the chances are we can have him in his prime years. He strikes out about a batter per inning, can go deep in games and over the last two years had ERA’s below 2 with 200 IP in each of those years.
Why are you so sure Wang will be signed long term? I don’t see that being the case at all. He still has another year of arb, and has had a spotty health history.
Given some of the high upside arms the Yanks have in their system, I wouldn’t be one bit surprised is they let him walk when he reaches free agency in 2010.
Listen, I know he had injury problems early on, but his injury last season was absolutely a freak injury. He had two stellar years and except that hammy pull (when everyone and their mother on the Yankees were pulling their hammy’s) and maybe a minor nail problem he is far from injury prone.
the point is, why sign him long-term before we have to? he still has arbitration years available. unlike position players (cano/wright/reyes/longoria/pedroia) it doesn’t make sense to buy out these years in effort to save some money. pitchers are more likely to get hurt than position players.
we’ll see if the indians’ deal with carmona works out for them…
Usually the Yankees cost themselves a ton of money by not locking guys up early on, but the pitching market is so out of control right now, we’d have to give Wang a Peavy-like contract to get him to sign long term. Better to wait and see how the market matures in the next couple of years.
Wang’s got 2 more years of arbitration. He qualified as a Super Two, so he gets 4 arbitration years instead of the normal 3. He’s a free agent after 2011.
While Yu will probably be very good in the majors, I hope we don’t post him mainly because we won’t need to Joba, Wang, CC, Hughes, IPK, Z-Mac, Brackman, IPK, AJ, Dellin, and co will get it done
Figure Dice-K took 50M post + the 50M contract, Yu will only take more depending on when he’s posted
NoMaas has a really good post on how good Mark Teixeira really is, for those people who foolishly think that he isn’t an elite player.
For example, he has the 2nd highest VORP among first baseman over the last 2 years, following only Pujols and he has the 8th highest VORP overall over the last 2 years, and also the 4th highest OPS+ in baseball over the last 2 years.
Simply, Teixeira is a great hitter and a great fielder. He was a great signing by the Yankees.
“Teixeira is a great hitter and a great fielder. He was a great signing by the Yankees.”
Thank you captain obvious
But good find on the info
How about where I said “simply?”. But, anyway it was directed towards people who don’t think he’s an elite player.
Yeah most of which are uneducated morons, Which we have next to non on this site.
yea, you’re right, but i just wanted to make sure
“The Giants have been listed as one of the teams who might be a good trade partner with the New York Yankees for a corner outfielder, in particular Xavier Nady, but he doesn’t meet Sabean’s requirement regarding free agency. Nady’s contract ends after the ’09 season.”
Interesting thought. 26 years old. Break out of the year candidate. Former TJ patient. Nice varied repertoire. Tons of potential. But am I willing to give up a Boras client in a contract year?
Tons of potential, but also has questions about his stamina and hasn’t pitched up to his stuff yet. Sounds like he doesn’t work all that hard, to me.
Now that I thought about it for 10 minutes I think we would have to throw in a bullpen piece to get it done. Or maybe not. Heh you never know.
Why didnt you put the other points where Sabean said he wont acquire a player who’s contract ends after 09?
Right, because GM’s are always so honest. Didn’t they just sign Randy Johnson to a one year deal?
But they didn’t have to give up anyone to get a year’s services. Not to mention that their attendance will go up as Randy’s quest for 300 goes on.
Eh easy Mike. I took his comment as would I take that trade. Now change what I said about the bullpen Piece up above. I am going to say IPK and Nady.
Coke and Nady? Then we just sign Baldelli with Nady’s money. The help on defense cancels out a lot of the loss in the lineup.
As much as I like what Baldelli can bring to the table I don’t know if the risk is worth the potential reward
I don’t see much of a risk though. 5 million or so +incentives might be able to bring him in and that’s not really that much for the Yankees.
Plus he only has to outplay Gardner/Melky which shouldn’t be that tough.
True but I beg to differ on the figure of 5 mill. Maybe less with more incentives.
Fangraphs has him worth 12. million in 2006, .8 million in 2007, and 1.7 million in 2008. So yeah, maybe a little less but if his “new” condition is treatable then he may get more.
In 3 years he has played 163 games. That is the last three years. I am sorry but a player with that hanging over his head isn’t worth 5 million. And don’t you find it funny how they suddenly found a cure or a treatment for him while he is a free agent?
I doubt the doctors are lying if that’s what you`re suggesting. You`re right though. He`s probably worth less than 5 million. Maybe about 3 with incentives. For the Yankees though, that’s splitting hairs.
Yeah, Why do you keep doubling comments? And I’m not saying they are lying but I just find it fishy that he hits free agency and all of a sudden he has treatment. Maybe it’s just me.
I may be holding down on the mouse to long. I didn’t notice until you pointed it out.
Are you kidding? The reward could be an All-Star caliber #3type hitter.
I meant Mike Pop when I said easy FYI.
Ah, I was a little confused, lol
And I was talking to “The Steve”
No I know.I was replying to what you said to him.
I’d suggest you re-read what I originally posted. It mentions that “he doesn’t meet Sabean’s requirement regarding free agency”
But the previous part on MLBTR says that Sabean “We’re going to have to be open-minded”. So it sounds like he’s willing to talk.
I apologize. Just doubt we could get Sanchez. I would not even throw in IPK in order to get Sanchez. Not worth it in my opinion.
Nah, don’t worry about it.
I’m not so sure about Sanchez from the Yanks POV. 5+ ERA each year in the bigs (in the NL West). He has good stuff but has never pitched up to it, and there are questions about his stamina. Sounds like he doesn’t work all that hard to me, and therefore is less likely to ever reach his ceiling. Very speculative, not worth a solid regular like Nady to me.
The only reason I would think about it is if we could package Jonathan to a team for another young player. IT would obviously be a young outfielder with alot of upside. But if we could do that, they would do that instead of giving him to us for NAdy.
Basically from those comments I would guess that Sanchez isn’t going for a 1 year guy… especially since they don’t need to trade Sanchez
Money is going to be so important, I don’t see how Yanks can trade any of them.Everybody is going to be dumping salaries as the economy tanks more and more.
A lot of owners personal wealth took big hits and I don’t see them wanting to lose money to make fans happy.
Yanks will have to pick up portions of contracts and then is it worth trading anyone now?
I don’t think they`re going to worry to much about Nady’s 6 million for one year.
“The Reds have been in discussion with the New York Yankees about their extra outfielders, but no deals are close.” (Via MLBTR concerning the talk with Jocketty)
Well that is interesting. Any pieces that are worth taking from them?
Please disregard this comment it was a mistake.
Homer Bailey was their chip for the Dye deal
(Sorry about above)
“The Reds have been in discussion with the New York Yankees about their extra outfielders, but no deals are close.” (Via MLBTR concerning the talk with Jocketty)
Well that is interesting. Any pieces that are worth taking from them?
Homer pitched awful last year. A 2 Whip, and 7 ERA in 36 IP
I know he did, not advocating that deal, just chances are thats what they would offer
Phil and IPK pitched awful last year too.
Ok, so then what you are saying is just have 3 young pitchers who can potentially be awful again? Not worth the bargain for X in a contract year.
What I’m saying is don’t judge Bailey on his 36 innings. If the FO is concerned about his diminishing stuff or his attitude that’s fine. But to point out his 36 innings as a reason for not trading for him is extremely shortsighted. It’s too small of a sample size.
Ok, so if we were to acquire him, what would you like for the deal to be?
I would trade Nady for him, get him in the minors working with Contreras, use the savings from Nady’s $6 million and sign Andy for $10 mil to be our #5. Maybe Nady is ready to finally breakout, but he’s just not that good. This was the 1st year he’s had more than 500 ab’s and he’s 30 years old. His ops+ with the Yankees was 105 right in line with his career or 108.
I would trade X for him also. Hope he regains his stuff and then we could use him for a young outfielder.
How about Bronson Arroyo? The guy has pitched in the AL east. And is always good to eat some innings.
Arroyo has a bad contract
If I want to eat innings I would use the young guns. They probably put up similar ERA’s and dont cost anywhere near as much.
Yeah, ML innings cap. I know they pitched in the AFL and minors and what have you but its a totally different story come April.
He would be cheaper than Pettitte. And after our young guns are ready we can just use him as trade bait.
Wouldnt be able to get much for him though. Would rather see IPK and Hughes in there instead.
He’s got 2 years/$25 mil, not cheaper than Pettitte in dollars or years.
He’s owed 9.5 M & 11M with a 2M buyout in ’11. AND put up a 4.77 ERA in the NL central last year… I’ll pass. I’d rather take Nady, and his draft pick(s) when he leaves.
But the idea is to move Nady or an extra OF.
With all due respect, it is just dumb to move a guy like Nady who has value to us for a guy like Bronson who would have alot less value than Nady to us. You dont move a guy like Nady just to move him. It would just be adding to the payroll while losing the 5th or 6th best hitter on our team(arguably). Im not a huge fan of Nady but I like what he has done. In no way would I move him for Bronson unless they gave us something else of value to us with him.
Don’t think you are respecting me. My information is on the basis of what MLBTR is posting.
Yup, I think it would be best for us if we keep everyone unless we get a a deal too good to pass up for either Matsui or Nady.
Wouldn’t that just add another outfielder?
one that is under contract beyond next year
yea but thats all i could think we would possibly need from them, i personally dont think we need much pitching help
You can never have enough starting pitching. Last year was a prime example of how handy it would have came in.
good point but i think we should get pettite and we would be pretty much good we would still have hughes IPK and aceves as well as some others if anyone got injured
I am with you. Pettitte would solve this whole problem. 200 innings, and another lefty.
This one’s easy. We’re in the market for a 5th starter and they’re small market team.
Adam Harang is due to make 11 mil next year, up from the 6.75 he made this year. That would be the 2nd highest salary on the Red’s roster according to Cot’s. He’s coming off a bad season, but put up 3 very good seasons before that, so he’s a very likely rebound candidate.
Given that his trade value is down, and they won’t want to take a big salary like Matsui back, I would think Swisher+ gets it done. Nady straight up would be giving up a bit too much for a guy coming off a bad year.
Another option would be to deal Matsui and eat some of his salary, but I’m not sure Hideki would want to play in CINN and he has a full NTC. Seattle or San Fran sound more likely for Matsui.
I am for Harang, just as I was around the deadline but that means Matsui Waiving his non-assignability clause to play on two bad knees. I don’t think so.
Nice thing about Harang is that he’s a horse. 30+ starts each of the past 4 seasons and averaged well over 200 IP. Has the upside to be a mid rotation guy, as our #5 he’s terrific.
I doubt it happens, though. Yanks would prefer to deal Matsui and he’s just not a match for them.
Harang is good no question. Its Aaron though. I would definitely deal Nady or Swish for him though. No question bout it. Then you can use our pitching depth to pick up some nice young talent. I dont think they would be willing to deal him though. He is very good especially considering the numbers he put up in that ballpark. I would look into a trade for him if it involved Nady very quickly.
Yeah, Adam? WTF? I’m still wiped out from the holidays.
What are you, some kind of freakin idiot ?
Swisher is better than Nady. I’d certainly trade Nady straight up for Harang, I don’t see the Reds doing that. He’s 30, led the league in wins and k’s in 2006, was 2nd in k’s in 2007 (4th in the Cy voting). He was pitching ok in 2008 until he was forced to throw a few innings in an extra inning game and it was all downhill from there.
Word. Swisher is younger, under contract, and draws BB’s and is a patient hitter, all opposite of Nady and Swisher is a better fielder.
Swisher hits for more power than Nady too, and has had his success in the AL, in a huge pitchers park in Oakland. Give him 200 LH ab’s in Yankee stadium and he’s bound to have even more success than he did in Oakland.
Not to mention his smoking hot girlfriend.
Two words. “Salary dump”. They won’t want to pay him 11 mil next year, ESPECIALLY the super cheap Reds. Plus, he’s coming off a bad year and is owed 11, 12.5, 12.75 over the next 3 years.
BTW-If Swisher is better than Nady, then why is Nady our starting RF and Swisher our super utility man right now? Why did we have to give up one of our top prospects to get Nady, and Swisher was acquired for Wilson Betemit+?
You may believe Swisher is better, but apparently no GM’s agree with you.
Chitown-Sold VERY low
Which could also tell you one player is coming into his prime, and the other is declining (possibly due to the steroid ban).
Or it means Pitt just wanted the most it could get because they are always rebuilding and Ozzie HATED Swish lol.
Didn’t we also get Marte, who we valued enough to give a 3 year/$12million contract to?
Yes, and we also gave up THREE pitchers as well. At least one of which you figure was added compensation for Nady. It was a package deal, but 3 pitchers for Marte would have been overpaying for a lefty reliever.
“Traded by the Pittsburgh Pirates with Damaso Marte to the New York Yankees for Jeff Karstens, Ross Ohlendorf, Daniel McCutchen (minors), and Jose Tabata (minors). “
Why did we have to give up one of our top prospects to get Nady
I was responding to that sentence, which left out important info. The pitchers we gave up weren’t exactly top prospects either, 2 had chances in the majors and struggled, and Mccutchen is too old to be a prospect.
All in all I kinda wish we kept McCutchen. Ill always root for that guy
They started testing the 1st full year of Swisher’s career, so that argument doesn’t cut it.
Nonsense. Everyone knows that players could get around those tests. It wasn’t until Clemens destroyed his entire career by making a fool of himself in front of Congress and Bonds was indicted that players got scared off of using.
Run scoring was down by about 20 runs per team all across Baseball from 2007-2008. Look at the 2008 AL HR leaders. Nobody hit 50, only 2 players hit 40 and Miguel Cabrera led the AL with 37. RBIs were down as well.
Not trying to deny any steroid issues, but I don’t think this season’s home run decline is nearly as bad as it looks at first glance.
No one hit 50, but 50 was only common in the late 90′s when steroids were at their peak, and a few years surrounding that time frame on either end.
As to the low number of 40 HR guys, this season had a lot of big power hitters hurt. A-Rod missed over 3 weeks. Quentin missed a month. Braun missed a few weeks and played hurt for a while. Carlos Lee missed two months. Pujols missed 2 weeks. Soriano missed 2 months. That’s 6 guys on a 40+ HR pace.
Also, take Adrian Gonzalez out of San Diego and he most likely hits 40 HRs.
The low number of 40 HR seasons this year was more a freak thing than anything else, just like 2006 was a freak season with no pitcher winning 20 games.
The only thing Nady does better than Swisher is hit for average. Despite that, he makes outs more often than Swisher, he’s older than Swisher, he has less power than Swisher, he’s had his “success” in the NL. Nady has never hit more than 25 Hr’s in a year, Swisher hit 35 in 2006 while playing half his games in Oakland’s cavernous park. He also is more consistent against both LHP and RHP, unlike Nady, who has much less success against RHP’s, whom he sees 75% of the time.
Ok, so we’re in agreement, you cannot tell me what Nady does better than Swisher, other than batting average.
Nah, I’m just bustin your balls.
What we actually need is a young outfielder to play after the 2009 season
I doubt the Reds would trade a frontline starter for either Nady or Swisher.
Dickerson makes the most sense, the Reds will go Nady, Taveras, and Bruce in the OF…Votto will need to move to a corner in the near future for Alonso, so they’re fine with Nady leaving
Dickerson is essentially ML ready, and has some tools.
…else Drew Stubbs
Stubbs would not be traded for any of them
the Braves and Giants both seem to be in the market for OF’s. I like Martin Prado of the Braves, or maybe we could spin off a 3 or 4 team trade of Nady and Swisher with the Dodgers who are loaded with outfielders. Id love Ethier or maybe even Kemp, but thats stretching it.
Kelly Johnson from the Braves
Would we want Kelly ? If they didnt deal him for Ludwick, would they deal him for Nady ?
Good point about their behalf. But he can Super utility this year and we can lead him off next year if Damon takes off. He can play the OF.
Did they the Braves reject that deal or the Cards?
I just read they tried to shop Johnson trades for Ludwick hadn’t worked out
Last I read was that the Cards left it on the table and Braves were just not going to do it.
What would we do with Johnson? We don’t need a 2b, and if you put Johnson in the OF, then guess what, you still have an OF surplus.
He could be our super-utility player.
the Braves like Swisher. The Dodgers need a second baseman, so maybe if we traded Nady to the Dodgers and Swisher to the Braves, flipping Johnson or Prado to the Dodgers, we could pry away Ethier or Kemp. I would give up Swish and Nady if we could pull it off.
That isn’t such a bad idea.
Would Nady+Kelly Johnson pry away Kemp or ethier?
I dunno about Ethier, but definitly not kemp. If you want Kemp you trade for Johnson, than put Cano in a Kemp deal
Swisher AND Nady for Kemp? We’d be a better (and deeper) team if we didn’t make that deal.
Kemp 2008 OPS+108
Nady 2008 OPS+128
Swisher 2008 OPS+92
Also, Kemp is an average defender (+1) in CF according to Bill James +/- system. Why on earth would we do that?
Kemp is 24, he is bound to get better, especially his fielding with that speed. I like Swisher more than Nady. I don’t know, I would rather have a 24 or 26 year old Kemp or Ethier than Nady and Swish.
Reserve OF & 2b, if someone goes down he can fill in. Else if Cano struggles they have a back-up.
I would probably do Nady for Kelly but not the Swisher.
On VO’s Dickerson idea, he was drafted by the Yankees originally.
I like it, he has speed, and can play all the OF spots
Anything wrong with Kemp? His #’s look good to me. Not looking for 3/4/5 hitter… just a good CF that won’t be a liability in the field or at bat. And they can throw in a reliever or 2 to get what they need.
Kemp’s not really a CFer though, even if that’s where he’s played
Kemp is a stud, he will not be traded for for Nady. It would take Cano + for Kemp
Dickerson is a trade that can make sense
Is Dickerson going to be any good? Just looking at his stats he was good but it was a small sample size.
From John Sickels:
Chris Dickerson, OF, Grade C+: Tremendous tools. He’s more a .250 hitter than a .300 guy, but with speed, power, and defense. Older prospect, which limits his grade.
No superstar, but could be a solid major league player….really not that much different than Nady
* except Nady did crush the minors, I mean that if he can hit 15-20 HR hit 260 to 270 or so and can steal bases, he can be similar in production to Nady
Id rather not make that trade then.
So you wouldn’t trade a guy going to become a FA being paid 6M for a guy under 6 years of team control making the league minimum, when their production could be similar, and the 2nd guy is a better fielder?
Production “could” be similar. No I wouldn’t make the trade either.
I would Not make that trade either. Yes Dickerson is younger, but if we wanted, we could sign a much more dependable Nady for several years.
We still can sign Nady, as a FA, just like everyone else
I was just looking at Dickerson’s minor league stats. He had a great stint in the majors this year, but his minor league numbers arent all that impressive. He has a career line of .260 and average power.
I think Yankees will be glad to take prospects for any of the outfielders.More likely though, someone will want ot dump salary on us.
“Hospital to remove Clemens’ name”
Glad he’s reclaimed his good name from all those horrible accusations. Roger is Exhibit A on how NOT to run a PR campaign. Had he just ignored MacAfee, none of this would have happened.
Yeah, he’s made every mistake you could
why wouldnt he just come out like pettitte did? is anything happening to pettitte? i dont think so the worst problem he has is wether he is making 10 or 16 million next season
Ya he fucked up as bad as you could.
And if he came out like Pettitte did; he’d have Jeter, Mariano and Cashman at each of his press conferences; for each time he had to apologize for the “oops, I forgot I took HGH again and oh yeah, I did then too.” No problem Andy, the Yankees had your back, no one screamed at you like they did Giambi… now sign your contract and just pitch and shut up.
The Rangers are really starting to get on my nerves.
same here i dont like hockey but i decided hey wtf might as well turn on the ranger game (the other day) i watch it and i start getting into it were up 4-0 then they collapse im just like alright this is why i dont like hockey
I received an email from a guy I work with asking if I’m selling my Exhibition tickets. I said no. He told me there is someone on eBay selling the tickets for $4000.00!!!! (2k/ea). A bunch of people in his family wrote to the Yankees because apparently the Yankees sometimes pull the licenses of people who jack up ticket prices like that. Is that even legal?
Just because someone is asking for 2k, doesn’t mean he is selling them for that. I put my extra tix on StubHub (yes, its legal. No, the Yanks won’t pull your tix) and very often the seats don’t sell at all. Especially the really expensive ones, especially in this economy.
BTW-Your friend has a LOT of company. Check out the StubHub listings.
Prices start at $90 for bleachers. Yikes.
There was an article in the Daily News a couple of years ago that the Yankees were pulling licenses of people who were selling their tix on eBay because I always liste mine and then I stopped.
That was true, but is no longer the case. Maybe you didn’t notice, but the Yanks have a Stub Hub BOOTH at the stadium now, by Gate 4. They announced a partnership before last season.
They felt forced into StubHub and they make a big deal that they are the ONLY authorized reseller. They still don’t like it and they really don’t like eBay. I don’t think that having a StubHub booth means they don’t pull licenses for selling on eBay. Or does it? And why? How do you come to that conclusion? I’m not being a smartass, I’m trying to figure out how it has changed and what the rules are now. I used to sell a lot of tix on eBay and my tix never move on StubHub. I’d love to go back to eBay but can’t afford to have my license pulled.
My football hopes this week
Bills defeat New England
Jets defeat Miami
GREEENN BAY MUST DEFEAT DETROIT
JETS Wins!! Bills Win! Green Bay – who cares?
Lions 0-16, thats why
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