Sheets whispers continue

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Add Jon Heyman to the long list of writers who think the Yanks are interested in Ben Sheets. Heyman notes that Sheets will decline arbitration tonight, spurred on in part by the idea that the Yanks are interested. While his speculation is just that and Sheets seems to be on the Yanks’ second tier of choices, we have repeatedly expressed our support for Ben Sheets. Fewer years and a few million less should land Sheets, and it’s a much better risk than overpaying Derek Lowe or A.J. Burnett.

Kennedy showing signs of life in PR
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  • Steve H

    Hopefully the Yankees are just playing coy with Sheets the way they did with Damon. Also like to point out the last line of Heyman’s posts says that CC is meeting with the Yankees at his request. Hmmm, did the Yankees move to California and the NL? I mean, clearly CC has no interest in the Yanks, right? That’s what I keep reading.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

      Psh. CC hates New York and everything it stands for. Hasn’t that been clear by the fact that he hasn’t leaped into Brian Cashman’s open arms already?

    • DonnieBaseballHallofFame aka they guy who has well documented history of belligerent thickheadedness and anti-intellectual character assassinations

      “Hopefully the Yankees are just playing coy with Sheets the way they did with Damon.”

      Man I hope so. Damon was one of the few free agent moves I think was a true value at the time and still feel that way.

  • stewman23

    Does Sheets represent a possible pitch man for the Yanks? Obviously there’s the Brewers connection, but is there any reason to believe him and CC were buddies from their time together?

    • Mike Pop

      I dont know too much bout Sheets. All we really know is that CC was boys with Prince and Cameron.. I would think Sheets and him would of got along, maybe help each other out with their pitches.

  • Brooklyn Ed

    So if the Yanks sign both CC and Sheets, the Brewers are taking both the Yanks’ draft picks? If so, then the Brewers will definitely hit the jackpot.

    • Ron

      The Cole pick is protected. I believe they will get the Yanks 1st and 2nd round picks, plus the sandwich picks. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

        Our resident draft pick expert is currently in Vegas scouting out the Winter Meetings. Mike’ll have to chime in at some point, but I don’t know the answer to confirm. What you said, Ron, sounds about right to me.

        • Brooklyn Ed

          speaking of Mike and Joe, they still haven’t arrive in Vegas yet?

      • Ed

        Yup, that’s correct. The Yankees would give up picks #26 and #59 based off the current draft order. Well, it would be #26 and #61, as the two supplemental picks would get inserted in between those picks.

    • Mike Pop

      The Brewers would be better off if each of them went to different teams. So they can possibly get 2 first round picks

  • http://yahoo jad

    If we get Sheets, it will be purely by accident. If it happens, it will be another example of even a blind squirrel finding a nut. Forget fat, clutchless CC. Cashman should be focusing on Texiera and making a trade for Kemp or even Grady Sizemore. Without a reliable catcher, an adequate shortstop, and a catcher who we are sure can do something besides DH, we need to change look of this team. We need defense which will produce better pitching results. A better defense will make Wang a Cy Young Winner, make Pettite his old self, and the rest of the average pitchers above average. Adding Sheets for 3 years at a reasonable salary and another mid level pitcher will suffice nicely. The only other glaring need is for a clutch hitter or two.With the possible exception of Matsui, we have no clutch hitters at all. The need is even more glaring with Giambi, Paul O’Neil, Brosius or Tino Martinez not available.Ultimately that is all we need. Forget the fat one—get a CF and get Hudson for 2b. Trade Cano for a centerfielder and lets get on with it.

    • Jacob

      Jeter isn’t clutch?

    • Steve H

      Umm, huh?

    • E-ROC

      Fat, clutchless CC??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!??! Oh no, CC doesn’t look like Lou Ferrigno so he sucks.

    • Jack

      How, pray tell, do you plan on us thrding for Sizemore?

      • Jack

        How, pray tell, do you plan on us thrding trading for Sizemore?

    • Ziggy Zons

      You’re rambling and don’t make much sense.
      Forget CC? Fine, no problem. But adding defense isn’t going to shore up the pitching staff and turn inexperienced and aged pitchers into studs. I think it has been clear over the last two/three seasons that pitching will get you the wins and carry a team through the playoffs.

      Pettite has been injured, see the second half of last season and you see the defense behind him is fine. Once he got healthy he pitched better. Pettite is old and you have to stop thinking of him as the pitcher he was in the 90’s. Adding defense certainly isn’t going to turn the clock back on his body.

      Wang already fights for the league lead in wins when he’s healthy for the whole season and he relies on the defense to get outs. He makes the hitters put the ball in play poorley, and the Yanks defense get the outs.

      O’Neil Brosius and Tino are exactly where we should be focusing our reseources, you’re right. Get a CF? Which one. Who are you going to trade Cano for straight up that will be the stud defender and clutch hitter you’re screaming for? Cano’s stock is low right now, people who are trading for him will say look at his last season he stunk up the place, I don’t want to give you my center fielder for him. I’ll give you these guys instead.

      And then after you trade Cano there are no guarantees we’ll sign Hudson.

  • Jacob

    I’m 100% in favor of Sheets. I would much rather see the Yanks take Sheets than Burnett. But if we don’t get CC, I think it’s time to really step up the pursuit for Peavy. With the Braves looking like they’re out of it, the price could be lowered and he’s the next best pitcher out there after CC.

  • SpiritofCapnJackSparrow

    From the beginning I believed that Sheets was a better option then AJ, or Lowe. Also about 3 weeks ago Kay on 1050 radio mentioned that Girardi absolutely loves Sheets. I do not understand why he has to be plan B? Injuries are injuries “If a team is afraid of the the wolves then do not go into the forest.”

  • Ken

    I heard the same statement by Kay. I am in favor with signing Sheets. He is a much better pitcher than Lowe plus he is younger and we can get him at shorter contract. I like Burnett too but a 4-5 yr. commitment might be too risky. If Pettite leaves, I would take all three.

  • Ziggy Zons

    Still we’d have to give up picks/prospects for Peavy and Sheets. There are added bonuses when you discuss CC, AJ, and Lowe in that you sign them and all you lose is cash. We have to try to improve the current team as much as we can without backtracking on minor league prospect building. We have great picks coming this draft, I don’t want to lose em now, especialy as that would feel like returning to the pre-Cashman control days, sign sign sign and dump prospects for the vets.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

      There are added bonuses when you discuss CC, AJ, and Lowe in that you sign them and all you lose is cash.

      All three of those guys were offered and will deny arbitration. Thus, just like Sheets, they’ll cost picks as well.

      • Ziggy Zons

        Damn, I feel like my heads been under a rock now

  • http://yahoo jad

    My bad, I should have added Jeter although he is in decline, but he gives up twice what her produces in the field. The main point is that CC is not worth the money. As I continue to say, his bones were made in the National League, he never won big games and I watched him alot in Cleveland. The Yanks were pathetic last year defensively. I saw sandlot teams with more defensive range than they showed last year. That has to improve unless you have 5 pitchers who strike out ten guys every time out.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=15305165&ref=profile Doug

      CC has never won big games, huh?

      It’s not like he’s ever put his team on his back and carried them down the stretch into the playoffs by pitching on 3 days’ rest for several games. Only then could we say he’s won big games.

      Oh, wait.

      Also, I’m sure it’s easily verifiable through a quick Google search that Derek Jeter’s offense doesn’t even make up half of the runs he allows on defense, and that a fine upstanding supporter of the New York Yankees like yourself would never foolishly engage in such baseless hyperbole to make your point.

  • http://yahoo jad

    Ziggy, I am not saying don’t upgrade the pitching, I think we need two, but I don’ think CC should be one of them. I think Sheets is a cheaper/shorter contract solution in addition to another veteran by either free agency or trade to buy time for Hughes, Barackman, Kennedy etc. I agree that Cano had a bad year, but just one year ago, most agreed he was Rod Carew Jr. so I think the market is still there. Kemp is a possibility–Granted Sizemore is a longshot but stranger things have happened. I also disagree on Hudson: $$$$’s will bring him! I think Wang, Sheets, Pettite, Joba, Lowe/Perez/anybody that eats innings will suffice if you improve the defense. I also think you underestimate how much an outfield that can actually outrun fly balls , aren’t afraid of walls and throw runners out can make a difference. Also an infield that can get to ground balls and throw accurately so the first baseman doesn’t have to be Harry Houdini would be nice.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=15305165&ref=profile Doug

      Granted Sizemore is a longshot but stranger things have happened.

      Yes, like that one time I may have witnessed what appeared to be a large porcine animal hurtle across the evening sky, propelled by means of winged aerial locomotion.

    • Steve H

      Hasn’t Sheets “made his bones” in the NL. CC won a CY in the AL, Sheets has done what exactly?

  • SpiritofCapnJackSparrow

    Cashman for years wanted to get roster flexibility Sheets fills that role better then Lowe or AJ. The only difference between the players mentioned is experience in pitching in the AL East. But I for one do not buy that argument since Sheets stuff translates to any division. Cashman by wanting AJ or Lowe ahead of Sheets is going backwards on his own philosophy of roster flexibility.

    • Ed

      “Cashman by wanting AJ or Lowe ahead of Sheets is going backwards on his own philosophy of roster flexibility.”

      I favor Sheets over the other two as well, but, it’s not that simple. Sheets ended the season hurt, the other two ended the season on a high note. If Sheets made it through the season healthy, he’d be clearly above Burnett and Lowe, but that didn’t happen.

      If roster flexibility was the only factor, we would’ve jumped on Pettitte, Hampton, and Pavano.

  • Lanny

    Sheets would be great except hes always hurt and went down with an elbow injury last yr. But hey we def need a starting pitcher who doesn’t pitch and rehabs in Tampa. He can replace Pavano.

  • SpiritofCapnJackSparrow

    Well Sheets is somewhat in a different skill level then Pavano or present Pettitte, and Hampton as well. Ending a season on a high note I guess is a point in a favor of the other options but should they the upper NYY management make forward projections based on all the factors combined with the years of the contract plus money involved then to me Sheets is better/safer pick with a tremendous upside. Simply looking at the pitchers available for me Sheets at 3/42 million is a safer bet then AJ for 4/64 or 5/80 or Lowe at 36 years of age at 4/64.

  • Old Ranger

    What is the low down on Sheets? Just rumor? More then likely it is.
    Everyone still trying to figure whom to trade for who? Not a chance guys, I know it is fun and all but, Cash has it in his hands and will not let it go until it is a done deal. I still say, something will come out of the blue and we will say WTF, where did this come from? Remember, Cash is a sneaky little guy, with the total backing of the big guys, he will come up with a trade that none of us though of…make book on it. Hell, we could end up with someone like Hamilton (Rangers), who knows. 27/09.

  • Old Ranger-I’m always late

    Last again?!? Oh well just as well, didn’t have much to add.

  • Commerce Comet

    Sign Sheets. He’s also insurance in case Andy doesn’t come back (I feel he’ll retire this time). We’re going to have to wait while the second tier players, like Sheets, fall in line financially after the market’s been set by the top tier.

    But a bold contract offer fairly early may get the Yankees on Sheets’ radar – Yes, I say on Sheets’ radar rather than the other way around because he’s going to have a lot of suitors soon after the tier one guys go imo.