The RAB Radio Show – December 4, 2008 – Episode 3

Unconfirmed Report: Cash to meet with Boras today
With Yanks looming, Braves pushing for A.J.

We’re back after a week hiatus to bring you the another edition of The RAB Radio Show. Mike and I kick back and talk about the Yankees situation and the hot stove season. What more appropriate place to start than with the arbitration situation?

This caused a stir earlier in the week, with many chastising Cashman and Co. for not offering arbitration to Abreu, Pettitte, and Pudge. There were a couple of external factors playing into this as well. First, it had been over a week since we had something to argue about, so clearly people were ready to chime in. Second, we were basically expecting them to offer arb to at least Abreu, so when they announced they didn’t it came as a shock.

Reflecting on it, it’s not a black and white decision. Both sides have valid cases, I think, but ultimately the Yanks are going to make the move that best fits their overall strategy. It’ll be tough to tell whether this works out or not, but if the Yanks make a haul over the next few weeks I think everyone will be satisfied.

Then we’re onto the hot stove, where a few things have happened in the past day or so. Last night we discussed two shortstop transactions, Edgar Renteria signing with the Giants and the Padres dishing Khalil Greene to the Cardinals. Turns out Renteria’s getting $18.5 million over two years, which seems a bit steep for a guy as inconsistent as he’s been. The Giants could win out on this, though. Mike doesn’t think it has any bearing whatsoever on their ability/willingness to sign CC Sabathia.

Another shortstop appeared to be on the move, Jack Wilson to the Tigers, which we talked about a bit. Turns out that’s false. Oops. As I’ve mentioned before, reporters seem to be jumping the gun this off-season. The trade could certainly still go down, though. Not that Jack Wilson is much of a haul, especially with his contract.

We take some Q & A, though we didn’t get many questions. We did hit on a new Ken Rosenthal column, wherein he discusses a resurrection of the Cano for Matt Kemp trade, as well as the Yanks potential interest in Oliver Perez and Randy Wolf. I’m figuring that last part was just filler — not that I think the Cano rumor has any legs.

Oh yeah, and we’re going to the Winter Meetings. Should be a good time. Anyone who’s going to be out there for any reason should drop us a line. We like drinks, and we like our readers. Those two have to fit together somewhere. We’ll be podcasting all week.

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Unconfirmed Report: Cash to meet with Boras today
With Yanks looming, Braves pushing for A.J.
  • KO

    I would like to know what the “overall strategy is”.
    It looks like its:
    1 – For Hank and Hal – its try to hang on until your father passes away while not spending a lot of money
    2 – For Cashman, its cut payroll
    3 – For Cahsman again, its make any excuse possible not to add payroll while acting like you’re trying to improve the club
    4 – Cashman – not have a clue as how to construct a well-balanced winning team
    5 – Cashman – try to build thru the draft – altho’ you’ve been drafting at the bottom of the pile and have precious little to show for it so far
    ==> Looks like the strategy is working so far

    • Joseph P.

      Dude, take that shit to Lohud.

    • Mike Pop

      KO — Fail

    • mike

      KO – most of what you wrote is drivel, but mixed in the mess is an unvarnished truth—- #4.

      Whether it be poor scouting or drinking his own Kool-Aid, he is presiding over a team which has gotten progressively worse over the past 5 years as he has seemingly gotten greater control, with core players getting older and young players not yet making an impact as he would have thought.

      This weekend (and really this offseason) is his chance to make a mark for the future and really see that his plans are for the future – Im just afraid that he is being outclassed by Tampa/Boston, and that despite our best wishes, we will continue to come up a little short both in the front office and on the field

      • Bo

        Just because Tampa had one good yr doesn’t mean we are getting outclassed by them in anyway.

        When they can put up back to back good yrs than we can revisit that point.

        Ask Det and Cle how easy it is to do that.

        • mike

          I hear ya’ Bo – but Tampa’s dramatic growth coincided with their importation of some bright guys to run the team.

          For years they have churned great young talent to the Majors – and now these guys had the cojones to trade Young and Dukes, move Upton to the OF, deal with Baldelli etc…

          Ask yourself…would Cashman have the guts to trade two young, ultra-talented guys like Tampa did ?? with a tiny payroll and these guys cost-protected? I sincerely doubt it.

          So, give them a few more bucks, knowing which young guys to keep and who to deal, good drafting, smart signings ( Longoria- smart, Cano-not so smart)- they will be a force each year.

          Paging Stick Michael—does that look familiar??

      • A.D.

        What does outclassing someone in baseball mean?

  • E-ROC

    The audio using quicktime was choppy in the beginning then settled down during the rest of the broadcast.

    • Joseph P.

      I think that was a connection problem between me and Mike. It’s tough to pick those things out while you’re recording (and way too big a pain to re-record). Unfortunately, we are inherently hampered by Time Warner. Bastards.

      • E-ROC

        I too use Time Warner. I know the pain.

        • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

          Let’s all go kick Ted Turner’s ass. That crochety old fart has had it coming for quite some time. Plus, his ex-wife lost us the Vietnam War.

          • Bo

            He needs his ass kicked because his network airs Frank TV.

  • Mike A.

    Just to correct myself, the Yanks didn’t draft Eric Milton in ’98 like I said around the 30min mark. Milton was ’96.

    Andy Brown was their top in ’98, taken 4 spots afer CC and 1 after Bubba Crosby.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      Mike, ban yourself immediately.

    • Chris

      Damn… they passed on Bubba Crosby in order to draft Andy Brown. No wonder our farm system sucked for so long.

  • A.D.

    If the Braves made their pitch at Burnett and the Yanks are apparently going to counter, are they either going:

    Go more than 15M/yr
    Go 5 years (against previous reports)
    Offer the same hope AJ thinks Yanks > Braves

    …my best guess/hope they try a different contract type, something like 3/17 per so its not really straight up against the Braves, but shorter and more per for AJ

    • radnom

      No way AJ would take less years unless it is for more garenteed money overall, which your suggestion wouldn’t be.
      I dont even think the Yankees would try it.

      He knows he is an injury time-bomb. He is going to get as much garenteed money now, while he still can, and not gamble that he would be able to get another good contract in 3 years.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      I doubt AJ would be interested in a 3/51 over a 4/64 (or even a 4/60). I know it’s a higher AAV, but remember that this is a dude who turns 32 in a month and was constantly injured.

      If I’m Burnett, it’s going to take more than a 1M or 2M bump in AAV to convince me to lop off a year on what is probably my last big contract. My main goal is probably to get the total dollar value of the contract to be as big as possible, so I’m more willing to take a lower AAV for a 5 year deal than a higher AAV for a 3 year deal.

      • A.D.

        Probably right, 35 really wouldn’t be a great 2nd signing period, especially for a guy like Burnett who might loose a few MPH on the FB.

        Yanks main move would be to go 4/64-68 or make a better vesting 5th year than the Braves

        • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

          Yanks main move would be to go 4/64-68 or make a better vesting 5th year than the Braves

          Agreed. Which is why we should stay away. the Odds of Burnett meeting that kind of contract value are slim.

          Stick to CC, Sheets on a 2+1 or 3+1, and Pettitte.

  • A.D.

    The word used with the Jack Wilson trade was “interesting” could it be something like Bonderman, with Detroit eating a chunk of salary… dunno what would warrant the interesting

  • E-ROC

    Will there be video diaries or video of the location of the winter meetings?

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      No videocameras are allowed in the city of Las Vegas.

      • A.D.

        Then things wouldn’t stay in vegas

  • http://jobatheheat jobatheheat

    We cant go 5 years. Im thinking 4 with team option for 5th. 17 mil a year. Hopefully that will show CC we have backup plans and he cant just use us to bring up his price. Next we should get Sheets . If we get CC or not. Im all for Dunn after that. Hopefully we will not trade Cano. That would be a bad move.

  • A.D.

    Wow outside of 3-4 seasons (02, 03, 06*, 07) Edgar Renteria isn’t very good offensively

    * Debatable

    • Joltin’ Joe

      When in doubt, sign an overpriced contract with the Giants.