Very unconfirmed rumor that doesn’t make sense: CC declines Yanks’ offer

The Peavy rumor that just won't die
CC, Genske playing the game perfectly

Update by Mike (6:15pm EDT): Ken Davidoff with the quote of the day: “Sabathia didn’t reject the Yankees’ offer. Good Lord. How could someone report that?”

Update by Mike (5:41pm EDT): Rosenthal shot it down as well.

Update by Mike (5:30pm EDT): The crew on Baseball Tonight has shot down this rumor, citing a Yanks’ official.

Update 5:17 p.m.: For what it’s worth, Baggarly has updated his blog post to reflect his info that the Brewers may now be the frontrunner. A few reports have the Yanks ready to go hard after A.J. Burnett and Derek Lowe as well, but that doesn’t mean Sabathia is completely out. Either this is building to a head or it’s a Vegas-inspired Red Herring.

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Because everyone’s already talking about, here you go: Andrew Baggarly reports on the Mercury News Extra Baggs blog reports that CC Sabathia has declined the Yankees’ offer. He writes:

It’s been confirmed to me that the Giants had discussions with CC Sabathia’s camp last night, and they expect to have face-to-face meetings with the left-hander in San Francisco after the winter meetings.

It sure must’ve have been a productive discussion, because word is that Sabathia has declined the Yankees’ six-year, $140 million offer. (I must stress that’s unconfirmed, but talk is spreading fast. If true, look for the Yanks to get hyper-aggressive on A.J. Burnett.)

Let me say this: Beware unconfirmed rumors. They are unconfirmed, obviously.

Second, it makes no sense — none — for Sabathia to reject the Yanks’ offer. He loses all bargaining position in doing so, and the Giants, Angels or Brewers would have no reason to come close to the Yanks’ generous offer. Even if he has no intention of signing with the Yanks, he is far better served to keep the Yanks’ offer alive.

I don’t buy this one, but there you go.

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The Peavy rumor that just won't die
CC, Genske playing the game perfectly
  • Mike Pop

    Sabathia’s wife has him by the balls IF this is true. I am not saying I think it is because I do not at all, like you said it just does not make sense.

    • Joey H

      Well if he comes to NY he always has a chance to hook up with a washed up mid 50’s pop star.

  • al

    i saw this on mlbtr and about fell out of my chair when they said the aj bidding would be 5ys 100m. hahahahaha

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

      Yes. I think everyone’s just getting a bit out of hand with these rumors. Everyone wants something to happen so they’re making things up.

      • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

        I’m not so quick to dismiss this notion, though. Think about it, if you were representing A.J. Burnett, why wouldn’t you ask the moon when it is public that the Yankees are out on CC Sabathia? That would be the smartest play for Burnett’s and Derek Lowe’s respective camps.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

        Everyone wants something to happen so they’re making things up.

        I love this city. It’s a… it’s a fact. It’s the greatest city in the history of mankind. Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it San Diago, which of course in German means “a whale’s vagina”.

        • Mike Pop

          I’m a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn.

      • Joey H

        If you ask me, some lackluster writer got bored.

  • jsbrendog

    i am going to have to break my internet at work for the next 3 days.

  • Rob D.

    Part of me hopes this is true. As much as I want Sabathia in pinstripes, it would allow us to move on and make a push for Teixeira, who could have just as big of an impact.

    • nick blasioli

      i feel the same way….you are right on…

  • Frank

    At this point, let him go.

    Tex, Sheets, Burnett, Pettitte and Dunn.

    • steve (different one)

      no Manny? what about Fuentes? Wood?

      • andrew

        i heard they are getting hanley to play 2nd!!

      • Frank

        Christ, they were suggestions. Easy, killer.

    • Chip

      Who needs somebody who can pitch 200 quality innings when we can get a bunch of guys to throw 100?? I mean who cares if we have 3/5 of our starting rotation on the DL because it’s a great rotation on paper!

      • Frank

        I’d like to able sign someone and not left without any of the free agents actually. Better to spread our concentration than to sit around waiting for CC to say no. Neither of the players I mentioned above have publicly stated they’d like to play on a different coast.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

          Again, Frank, nobody has signed yet. We haven’t missed out on anybody. The only FA remotely close to signing whom we could potentially be missing out on is Burnett, a guy we shouldn’t want here anyway.

  • kevin

    i think it portrays a image of a good guy that just wants to go home. He lets the yankees of the hook and hopefully for him the players association off his back. He will get his money no matter what just not the 140 from the yankees.

  • Matt

    Lets get tex

  • A.D.

    If it is true he’d be doing the Yankees a service by no longer using their offer.

    The only benefit to CC would be if he thought some west coast teams are being slow/not bothering with an offer, since they can’t possibly come close to the Yankees offer…doubtful this is true, but you never know.

  • Ryan

    My guess is that although he didn’t formally reject the offer (to keep a bargaining chip on the table), he gave Cash a strong impredsion that he’s not coming to New York. That’s probably why the Yanks are suddenly stepping it up with Burnett and Sheets.

    • andrew

      but didnt cash just say last night that he felt cc’s interest in new york was genuine? they havent met since then, how could cash all of a sudden change his mind on cc’s demeanor during the meeting… “oh wait… now that i think about it, maybe when he said ‘I’m not coming to new york’…”

  • Murph1010

    I’m the biggest “NY is clearly CC’s last choice” guy there is, and even I place little no nothing of this…

    YET

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      Exactly. Smells like BS to me too.

  • Joey H

    Hat tip to Mr. Joey H for breaking the news. Haha.

    • Mike Pop

      Haha

  • B.George

    All you guys need to relax seriosuly…CC is the best player out there that we need more then anyone in the free agent market. All you guys saying that we will be better off letting him go and getting Tex is ludicrious. We tried to build our teams around smash hitters and have 0 rings to show for it because we got beat by good pitchers… good pitching beats good hitting. Relax…stop believing everything you read because Peavy was going to the Cubs in the moring and now the deal is dead. Relax everyone.

    • Joey H

      I think any logical Yankee fan knows this is hogwash. So no need to tell us to chill out. The Peavy deal isn’t dead. It’s still on life support and the off season is still very fairly young.

  • UWS

    Jesus Christ, I can’t wait for all this nonsense to be over. I’ve gotten zero work done today. ZERO.

    Urrrgh!

    • Mike Pop

      I hear that shit. I got to take a quiz by 9 and I have a business math final tomorrow !!! Arg, Damn you rumors !

  • E

    Y are u guys actually in vegas? Besides gambling n weather. Is it to break scoops ? Make contacts n sources?

    • Mike Pop

      You would not want to experience it ? Plus it is Vegas man

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

      Definitely not to break scoops. We had no delusions of doing such while we were out here. But you have to start sometime.

  • Hank S

    It’s true! It’s all true! I think we should up our offer to 8 years and $195MM.

    • steve (different one)

      i enjoyed this post.

    • Reggie C.

      hehe…

  • Joey H

    Thank God for firefox. It lets me keep 12 windows open and once to keep up with all these rumors. Even the unconfirmed nonsense ones.

  • MS

    Give him 24hrs to accept. He is using us to get others to up their bids. If he had any desire to come to NY he would have signed by now. Let’s get Tex, Lowe, Sheets. Stay away from Burnett. Make sure Tex. doesn’t end up in Boston. I can honestly say we failed if we don’t get CC or Tex.

    Worst scenario- Tex goes to Boston, CC goes West and we overpay for Burnett.

    • Mike Pop

      Ya but if we take it off the table completely we can be in trouble. All the other pitcher’s will want more

      • Hank S

        You’re right about that! Lowe and Burnett will have a TON of leverage if we pull our offer from CC. If you thought we would have to overpay for those guys before……..

    • Joey H

      Yeah say this He-man nonsense now and when we are without an ace pitcher next year and are relying on a 36 year old and an injury prone guy to pitch for us you will regret saying that.

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      Give him 24hrs to accept.

      Mike Francesa is an idiot, stop quoting him.

      • Mike Pop

        Mr. Sabathia you have 24 hours to accept or we will blow up Milwaukee

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

          And to show you we are serious, you have 12 hours.

          • Mike Pop

            Hahah

            • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

              Homer: Hey, Fat Tony! Still with the Mafia?
              Homer: Uh, why, yes, I am, thank you for asking.

          • Joey H

            11:59:59… 11:59:58 …

  • Chip

    I figured this would happen. Even with ten mentions that this is completely and utterly BS, all the crazy people start coming out and condemning CC. This is starting to sound like the Joba to the bullpen madness

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

    TITANIC BULLSHIT RED FLAG ALERT:

    In the same article by our Esteemed Giants beatwriter Mr. Andrew Baggarly, he claims the following (italics are his, not mine):

    UPDATE: An executive close to the CC Sabathia talks told me the Brewers are emerging as the frontrunner.

    (psst… Mr. Baggarly… I think your “executive” close to the CC talks is feeding you a load of hot bullshit…)

    • Joey H

      Yeah and clear;y Mr Baggarly is nothing but a bag of air.

      • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        http://www.instantrimshot.com

        (Hackneyed, I know, but you walked into that one.)

        • Joey H

          I think you just wanted to use the infamous button.

          • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

            Would if could, friendo, but I don’t know how to make that pretty red button pop into this here computer screen..

    • leo

      Executive close to the source = room service guy.

      • UWS

        No, it actually went like this:

        [Buffet line at the Bellagio]

        Mike: “Hmm, Joe, have you heard this retarded rumor that CC declined the Yanks’ offer?”
        Joe: “Yeah, geez, what idiot came up with that one?”
        Mike: “Next thing you know, they’ll be talking about Brewers being the frontrunners here!”

        [Andrew Baggarly walks by]

        Joe: “Brewers as the frontrunners.” [facepalms]
        Mike: “Good thinking, dude. Let’s hit the slots.”

        [Andrew Baggarly runs off, typing furiously on his iPhone]

        And…scene.

        • jsbrendog

          genius. made for broadway

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

          Joe: “Brewers as the frontrunners.” [facepalms]
          Mike: “Good thinking, dude. Let’s hit the slots go get some hookers and blow.
          Joe: “You still have Ben’s wallet, right?”
          Mike: “You know it!”

          And…scene.

          • UWS

            Everyone knows hookers and blow come after the slots. Sheesh.

            • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              Whoah whoah whoah… There are slots in Vegas?

              • Alvaro

                It’s spelled SLUTS.

                • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  You’re not picking up what I’m putting down.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

            Everyone is now looking at my funny because I was laughing so hard.

            • Manimal

              hahahaha I could SO picture that.

    • A.D.

      Well they are the only other team with a non rejected offer if his article is true

  • leo

    I love all these ridiculously false rumors today, my favorite is the Greinke straight up for Franceour one.

    • A.D.

      That was good… because KC needs another outfielder? And even if they did, and Francoeur didn’t just have a season where he was demoted at one point, it still wouldn’t make sense.

      • http://incumbentgm.wordpress.com Joltin’ Joe

        Greinke is probably the most underrated young pitcher in the game right now, I’d say he’s got to be #2 behind Lincecum in terms of guys who are still getting the minimum but have thrown a few hundred innings in their careers.

        1. Lincecum
        2. Greinke
        3. Billingsley
        4. Volquez?

        I am sure I missed somebody.

        • http://incumbentgm.wordpress.com Joltin’ Joe

          Parra and Guthrie should be on here too I suppose, Joba and Gallardo are on their way.

        • Mike Pop

          Cain

          • http://incumbentgm.wordpress.com Joltin’ Joe

            He signed an extension of some sort

            • Mike Pop

              Ooops i apologize I misread that part

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

          I am sure I missed somebody.

          Felix Hernandez says hello.

      • leo

        The best part of that rumor was that the Braves were waiting to hear about Burnett before making up their minds. Really? Instead of accepting that and laughing for years they were waiting? Okay rumor making guys.

  • KB

    The most basurd part of all of this is the people who say fine, go get Tex, Burnett, and Sheets. There is no way they are spending the $50 mil annually ($20, $16, and $14 respectively), it would take to get all 3 of those guys when it was made fairly clear that both CC and Tex could not both be signed under the current budget. If they lose on CC, it will be either Tex plus Sheets or Burnett plus Sheets- not all three. And certainly not Manny, unless they lose out on CC, Tex and Burnett.

    • AndrewYF

      $50 million annually for three players isn’t absurd for the Yankees, given the quality of the free agents this year.

      • http://incumbentgm.wordpress.com Joltin’ Joe

        Considering some of contracts we’ve had, that would actually be a regression in terms of salary. Woot!

        • A.D.

          With the Swisher deal the Yanks have still removed about 80M of payroll with the players leaving.

          So exactly, spending 50M isn’t out of the question

          • http://incumbentgm.wordpress.com Joltin’ Joe

            Yeah, and with the economic blunders, $50MM is worth more now than last year.

            • Mike Pop

              Oooo nice point !

              • KB

                Except that they said CC and Tex was not realistic and that would be less than $50 M. And these would not be short term deals.

                • andrew

                  they said that before the economy disappeared into thin air

                • A.D.

                  Thats because they want to add 2-3 pitchers, and maybe a bat, and they want enough money to go over their current offer to CC if suddenly 1 pitcher isn’t making 23-26 Mil a year and instead 16 or 17. That changes things.

                  OR Say they just go Pettitte & Sheets, that would be a contract for 2 players less than they were willing to give to CC

              • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

                The Yankees have around $135M in aggregate AAV coming off the books in the next three years.

                • Mike Pop

                  Spend that money now babay !!

  • KB

    absurd

    • jsbrendog

      i almost like basurd better

  • http://incumbentgm.wordpress.com Joltin’ Joe

    I could see CC heading to a different club for less money, but even if that happens, Burnett won’t extort $100MM out of us. We would simply tell him to go pitch below the Mason-Dixon where he belongs!

  • Infamous

    Lebron James needs to have a talk with CC

  • christopher

    if this is true, then give the guy credit for being stand-up and i wish him luck on the west coast.

    team doesnt get the ACE but can add 2 pitchers and a bat or two. if anything i think that losing CC could send the payroll budgett into chaos

  • Joey H

    Reds got Livan Hernandez

    • Joey H

      Not like that matters AT ALL.

    • Thomas

      CAHSMAN IS TEH SUX0R!!!!!1!!! HE SHOUD HAEV GOTTEN HIM!!!1!!!!1111 hE WAS CLUTCH IN THE SERIESESE1!!ELEVENTY!!!

      • jsbrendog

        I think the next RAB shirts should say “CASHMAN IS TEH SUXOR!!111111!!!!1″

        • jsbrendog

          ps eleventy made me laugh

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

          I think the next RAB shirts should say “CASHMAN IS TEH SUXOR!!111111!!!!1?

          WE ARE LOOKING LIKE TEH FOOLS!!!!!!1!!111!!

        • Thomas

          I’d like a RAB shirt with the Facepalm. Or tommie with his microwave.

          • jsbrendog

            it could be a facepalm with the caption why is my burrito taking so long to cook in this %@F$@ microwave hahahahahaha

          • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

            Q: How do you feel about the public attention your burrito is receiving, TSJC?

            A: It’s not too bad. I didn’t just get out the pool.

            • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
              HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

              • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                Did I finally make a pop-culture reference someone got or was it yet another failed joke whose jocosity was lost on everyone else?

                • Ron

                  Joe will have to confirm, but I’m pretty sure this is the first time the word “jocosity” has been used on RAB.

                • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  A frequent commenter used a variation of the word yesterday, I just thought it was funny and decided to toss it into a comment.

  • A.D.

    Livan Hernandez signed with the Reds… just another FA the Yankees have missed out on waiting for CC

    http://blog.seattletimes.nwsou.....dians.html

    • Mike Pop

      Motherfucker, he eats innings like a machine. How did we not look into it

  • kimonizer

    ESPN just nixed this rumor as bogus. They got confirmation from the Yankees. (maybe even take that info for what its worth?)

    Round Kruk also espouses the take it or leave it stance. I think he wants CC on the west coast because if he’s playing in NY CC will step in on Kruk’s east coast buffet monopoly.

    • leo

      I for one am SHOCKED that this report was untrue.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      Round Kruk also espouses the take it or leave it stance.

      So then, let’s start building a list of people who think it’s a good idea to give CC an ultimatum:

      1.) Mike Francesa
      2.) Steve Phillips
      3.) John Kruk

      … do you see where this is going?

      • Joey H

        Gee, I dont know.
        1) Asshole
        2) Asshole
        3) Asshole.

      • Mike Pop

        4)Jim Duquette?

  • christopher

    perhaps CC and cash came to an agreement that he is not coming to the team but the offer would remain out there as leverage for both the yankees and CC in other negotiations

    • radnom

      Um, doesn’t that making sense kind of hinge on, oh I don’t know, the entire world not knowing about it??

    • Joey H

      ha you just posted the same thing on Lohud didn’t you?

  • radnom

    It worries me that this is only the second post titled “Very irresponsible rumormongering” (click it to see).

    In the only other one, you can spot me saying how absurd the rumor of the Red Sox actually going through with a Manny trade was (to be fair this is when it first broke).

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Baseball Tonight says it’s bull.

    • jsbrendog

      ill only believe it if it was said in tim kirkjian’s whiny im having an oprgasm talking stats voice

      • Mike Pop

        Lol, I like him though

        • jsbrendog

          as do i, but he is the one donniebaseballhalloffame with the now long name tyring to be like tommiesmithjohncarlos by copying his length of name means when he references stat junkies amd nerds etc. but i do like him.

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

            Heh.

            FWIW, I think DonnieBaseballHallofFame has ridiculous upside.

            • jsbrendog

              people looked at me because i laughed outloud uproariously to this at my desk

              IVE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES STATS BE DAMNED< THE KID HAS TALENT

    • Mike Pop

      Yup, Karl Ravech confirmed it lol

  • Joey H

    Now say CC doesn’t want to pitch for NY.. How many of you RAB’ers would want him here ?

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      Me.

      Sidney Ponson may think living in NYC is the best thing since fucking.

      But he sucks. CC Sabathia does not. If he comes here, I don’t care if he hates it. You know what will cure him from hating NYC? Winning in NYC.

      • jsbrendog

        agreeeeeed

      • Joey H

        Besides that http://www.answers.com/topic/obvious If the man really doesn’t want to come here, why force him in if his heart isn’t in it? If he doesn’t like NY so much that all these people that don’t understand how the market works seem to believe, Why not just say eh go scratch and move on because slowly the other pieces will come off the market and we will resort to the likes of Sidney Ponson and maybe refund Rasner.

        • Ron

          If the man really doesn’t want to come here

          Please provide a link to a quote where CC said this. All I’ve seen is that he said he would PREFER to play on the West Coast.

          Not to pick on you, because there are many saying the same thing, but is English your second language? Because, believe it or not, there is a VAST difference between those two statements.

  • http://incumbentgm.wordpress.com T. Dizzle

    we should really try to trade for Tim Lincecum, I think he could help out a lot.

    • UWS

      Agree 100%.

      Do you think IPK and Melky could get it done?

      • VO

        haha more like hughes jackson and melky there not given that kid away for nothing

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones
        • Joey H

          You clearly missed the sarcasm.

    • Joey H

      Joking right?

    • Mike Pop
    • radnom

      T. Dizzle is my favorite RAB commenter, no doubt.

      • Mike Pop

        Lol he is the most random

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside a/k/a Wuthering Heights

        T. Dizzle is my favorite RAB commenter, no doubt.

        Especially since the “izzle” thing has been played out for years…

        Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go listen to my “Doggystyle” cassette tape in my Sony Walkman. G’s up, hoez down, BIIIATCH!!!

  • Joey H

    I’m dying to go on Lohud and see all those morons jumping off the bridge over this nonsense.

    • jsbrendog

      that will only make you want to jump pff because youl;l realize how dumb the average citizen truly is

  • The Evil Dynasty

    CC – $23 per year
    Tex – $20 per year
    Burnett – $16 per year
    Lowe – $14 per year
    Sheets – $14 per year
    =
    $87 per year

    haha we’re allowed to dream right?

    • UWS

      Are you crazy? Why would you want to sign ALL of them?!

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      haha we’re allowed to dream right?

      That’s a nightmare.

      You want to sign FOUR starting pitchers? What, pray tell, do we do with Wang and Joba, not to mention Hughes and Kennedy?

      • Mike Pop

        Trade for Michael Young, Kevin Kouzmanoff, and Max Ramirez ??

      • Thomas

        Clearly we put Joba back in the pen and trade Hughes for Prince Fielder. Super strong bullpen with Joba and our CF solution in Fielder.

        • jsbrendog

          also very humorous

  • Manimal

    Why cant the yankees just bump up the offer now? Why wait for another team to become a front runner. And last time I checked, Milwaukee isnt on the west coast.

    • Joey H

      Why would you spend more money than you have to? Why buy a Cheeseburger for 4 dollars when you know that you are waiting for other places with different condiments to come around? Well a failed attempt at an analogy but you know what I mean. He isn’t malcontent with the offer it self, he just wants to see what other teams have to offer, say the Halos are willing to give 150 for 6 years after he takes the Yankees 6/140? See what I mean?

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

        Why buy a Cheeseburger for 4 dollars when you know that you are waiting for other places with different condiments to come around?

        Actually, that analogy cracked me up… it’s as if as you were typing it, you didn’t quite know where it was going, but you said, “Fuck it, let’s plow through anyway…”

        Thanks for the good-natured laugh.

        • Joey H

          Yeah you knew my intent. I just didn’t feel like doing it since it wasn’t going anywhere but was worth the laugh.

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

            Yup. You’re good with me, I’m not questioning your mental faculties or anything…

            • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              I am malcontent with this response and demand condiments.

            • Joey H

              Yeah it would be hard to question anyone else’s mental faculties with a name like … tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

              • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                I can make it longer, if you’d like.

                (pun intended)

                • Joey H

                  My guest, if you would like to have a novel as your name on a blog it will joy me.

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside a/k/a Wuthering Heights

                  Done.

                • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  Joey H = joyed

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      Isn’t “bidding against ourselves” exactly what we’re trying to avoid?

      I’m just saying.

      • A.D.

        that and if 40 million is going to change CCs mind will 50 or 60…doubtful

  • VO

    4:32pm: Rosenthal says there’s no truth to the rumor that Sabathia declined the Yankees’ offer

    lets keep our fingers crossed

  • VO

    also to anyone who was fighting with me last night i thought about it today and i realized especially after this artical was published maybe it wouldnt be a terible idea to raise it a bit

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    Ozzie Guillen literally walked right in front of our table, no more than arms length away form Joe and I, said “Man, the Winter Meetings is boring, I going home,” shook Tim Kurkjian’s hand, and walked out the door.

    That was awesome.

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      You have no idea how much of a love-hate relationship there is with that dude within the Latino community. Personally, I’m one of the dudes who loves him, that quote you just posted is a reason why; his honesty is endlessly entertaining.

      • Manimal

        Not just latinos, people everywhere have different opinions. I like the “in your face “coaches so Ozzies “Imma tell you straight up” philosophy is awesome. On the other hand, Joe Girardi lies to much to the press and has these “secret meetings”

      • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/baseballdigestdaily Eric SanInocencio

        You are 100 percent right. Put me in the camp that absolutely loves him and can listen to him talk baseball every day of the week. CONIO!

    • Manimal

      hahaahahahhaa so he really is an ass.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      There was no profanity in that Ozzie quote. I don’t fucking believe you.

      • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

        I think Mike cleaned it up a bit, I believe it was more along the lines of this:

        Oyes, fuck this; I don’t wanna stay in this bullshit, ass hotel for some dumb-ass, dumb shit. I’m gettin’ the hell outta here…

        *As he walks away, all Mike and Joe hear is random curses in Spanish about Magglio Ordóñez and his mother.*

        • jsbrendog

          this was awesome

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Well, actually it was more of a complex string of Spanglish that I couldn’t understand. The actual quote was as follows”

          “The Winter dos mios fruta un por Meetings que rapido is boring, I dinero cansado para cuarto de baño going home Julio Inglesias.”

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Cabron.

            • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

              …Julio Inglesias.

              Holy shit, this literally made me laugh out loud.

    • Mike Pop

      Lol

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    Ken Rosenthal backs ESPN’s claim: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....r-meetings

    • Joey H

      Yeah yeah yeah we got the point, it was bullshit. If that Baggardy name or whatever it was comes up again we know to dismiss it. Not to mention that he reports out of California… Think that tips something off? UM, bias, I don’t know…

  • Shamus

    You know, I can’t help but think our desperation for a ‘number one, top of the line, ace’ could have been resolved last year.

    I hate to bring up his name again, but here it goes:

    Johan Santana…

    At least that dude wanted to come to the Big Apple, or some other main stage setting. This fat bastard is letting HIS WIFE dictate where to play!!!!

    If Cashman had manned up, traded Phil Hughes (winless in 2008, injured off and on all year), Ian Kennedy (Mr. Ass-Face himself), Melky Cabrera and Mitch Hilligoss, we wouldn’t be strapped over a barrel right now.

    The Yankees could be focusing on other major needs, ie, finding a suitable 3-hole hitter, a real 1B, maybe a legit CF, poss a number 3 or 4 starter and improving the bench.

    Instead… We’re sitting around hitting refresh 27,000 times a day, while CC does a tour of every Jack in the Box, Hardees and White Castle on the WC!

    ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!

    Forget Fatbathia!

    Sign Tex ! Sign AJ ! Sign Pettitte ! And take a flyer on Sheets !

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      1. Let it go.

      2. Brian Cashman stated that the two offers that were on the table for Johan Santana were as follows: a) Phil Hughes; Melky Cabrera; Two prospects. b)Chien-Ming Wang; Ian Kennedy; Melky Cabrera; Low-level prospect.

      3. Go here: http://yankees.lhblogs.com/

      • Manimal

        hahaha number 3, classic.

      • Shamus

        Ohhhh, sorry, I forgot you were in the room with Cashman while they were talking deals.

        • Mike Pop

          Cash has stated that over and over

        • mustang

          Shamus,
          Take it from me you can’t win this fight. If you bring up the Santana situation you’re going to get well see above and below. However, if CC signs tomorrow your going to get at least on thread and about 100 comments on how Cashman made the right move on Santana.
          Jamal is right just let it go.

    • Joey H

      We’ll see if you feel the same way when he wins about 20 games for the Yankees in ’09.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I’m pretty sure “Fatbathia” would snap you like a twig if you said that to his face, and then go throw a complete game shutout.

      • Nady Nation

        Also, doesn’t “Safatthia” sound smoother? Poor creativity by Shamus

    • jsbrendog

      http://riveraveblues.com/2008/.....ent-223725

      i’m getting tired of posting it so I’ll just link to it. you earned this one buddy.

      but youre right, hughes sucks and santana is the shit. and you also are still living in last offseason and for some strange reason still believe cashman mnessed up by not getting santana. it was the right move no doubt about it. god

      SMASHSMASHSMASHBRENDOG ANGRY!!!SMASHSMASH

      • Shamus

        Oh, yeah, Hughes and Kennedy were awesome this year….

        Winless

        DL

        Delusional

        But, nice art there that you linked. You should show that off with glee. I guess if I was unemployed, lived in my mom’s basement and was on a dial-up connection, I’d have all day to do some ‘blog-comment-section-art-work’.

        Man, its nice working, being rich and contributing to society.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          I guess if I was unemployed, lived in my mom’s basement and was on a dial-up connection, I’d have all day to do some ‘blog-comment-section-art-work’.

          I fucking KNEW IT!!! IT’S MURRAY CHASS!!! WE’VE BEEN INFILTRATED!!!

          RUN FOR THE EXITS!!!! LA MIGRA, LA MIGRA!!!!

          • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

            LA MIGRA, LA MIGRA!!!

            LOL

          • Shamus

            lol…. Emotions running high, sorry y’all.

            I’m like Tony Montana in front of a laptop right now…

            “say hello to my big friend”

          • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

            I like how we treat Murray Chass like the Skynet incarnate.

        • andrew

          would you rather have santana, or sabathia, hughes, kennedy
          hughes and kennedy havent done anything yet, but have some patience.

        • leo

          But my mom doesn’t have a basement :(

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  • Manimal

    Heres a good question, how much would you personally pay CC to come sign with NY. I’d give him a good 1000. Then again I’m 17.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      Wait, where does a 17 year old get a thousand dollars in disposable income?

      • UWS

        I’m sure the aforementioned hookers and blow are involved somehow.

        Also, 17? Good grief…

      • Manimal

        I work. I have 2K total.

        • Ron

          I’m impressed that you would give half of your net worth for CC.

  • Shamus

    Just stating the obvious, Jamal.

    Lohud sucks… I find the posters here to be much more polite, courteous, and educated.

    When working on the parameters of a trade, less teams are involved as opposed to open free agency.

    • Nady Nation

      You had me at “Fatbathia”

  • Joey H

    Oh yeah and just for giggles this is the girl that Michael Kay is banging http://www.thebronxcheer.com/w.....42108b.jpg

    • Ron

      Wait. Michael Kay’s not a homo?

  • Shamus

    Yeah, we’ll see when he goes 12-10 in front of Zito in SF, with an ERA of 2.98 but a poor run support number of 3.12 rpg.

    I’m sure he could snap me like a twig, I’m 6 foot one, 210. He’s double that.

    It is soooooo risky to give all this money and years to a pitcher. Wouldn’t anyone rather make the same offer to Tex, and sign AJ, or Lowe?

    • Joey H

      You are new here aren’t you?

      • Shamus

        Maybe six months. Love it. Everyone here is much more rational than those no-talent assclowns over at Lohud….

        • Joey H

          Yeah but every now and then you get a commenter who loves to say things such as “Forget Fatbathia!”

        • Mike Pop

          Don’t talk like those “assclowns” then

          • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

            I don’t agree with him, but it IS risky to give this kind of contract to a pitcher. All indications point to the Yankees’ offer being the biggest ever given to a pitcher. I agree with you and would assume that risk in order to acquire CC’s services, but Shamus isn’t an “assclown” for feeling the risk is too high; he just disagrees with you/me.

          • Shamus

            My bad Mike Pop. Just tired of people running around acting like its the end of the world if this guy doesn’t want to come to NYC.

            I guess, seeing as I have rooted for the Yankees for 3 decades, after going through the dark ages (the 80s) I have a different outlook on this team and the free agents they chase.

            They don’t want to come here…. Fine, go get someone else.

            But, there is no animosity from this keyboard. And, I’ve been coming here long enought to know you are one of the more thoughtful posters on here, so if I offended anyone, I do apologize.

            Especially, I apologize to Mr. Fatba— er, CC. Last thing I want is to be the reason he doesn’t sign in NYY.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

      It is soooooo risky to give all this money and years to a pitcher. Wouldn’t anyone rather make the same offer to Tex, and sign AJ, or Lowe?

      My math may not be precise, but signing Sabathia for 6 years and huge money is probably one billion times less risky than signing A.J. Burnett and Derek Lowe to anything, ever.

      • andrew

        that was precise enough for me

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    The penniless and homeless Ken Davidoff, per the New York Post, says the Brewers don’t intend to raise their current, five-year, $100M offer.

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/.....5140.story

    • Joey H

      Well that helps since the reliable word of Baggarly was that they were the front runner. If CC goes anywhere its absolutely NOT the Brewers.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones

        So then, basically, Andrew Baggarly said something, and within minutes, every single word of it was totally and thoroughly discredited by everyone.

        Nice.

        • Joey H

          I don’t get what you are getting at unless you are trying to agree with me. Maybe you misread what I said.

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            No, i agree. Just piling on.

        • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.
  • Michael

    Alright, question. Let’s say the Yankees sign CC. What else will they get? Besides the obvious need for some more pitching, will they still have more money to address the offense?!

    • Joey H

      Why address an offense with a starting rotation of CC WANG LOWE/AJ/SHEETS JOBA and whoever? A healthy year of Posada and Matsui will help.

      • andrew

        i thnk after cc, you have to add one more arm(i hope sheets), then pettite to round out the starting 5, and then a bat like dunn

    • Shamus

      Not if Nick Swisher was the major offensive acquisition this winter….

      • Joey H

        Swish will save runs with his glove and hit a nice amount of dingers for us. People need to realize that you dont need to have a .310 30hr/100rbi guy at every position.

        • Mike Pop

          Sign Adam Dunn. Mostly for his production but him and CC are also buddies

          • Joey H

            I love the idea of Dunn, Left handed, High OBP, sees a ton of pitches, short porch, in infront of A-rod, and fulfills our gap (to some extent) left vacant by the departures of Giambi and Abreu.

  • Mike Pop

    If the Angels are going to get serious bout CC he is getting what he wants. You could see higher offers from us if they make one

    • Joey H

      I think Tex signs before CC unless some other NL west team becomes a legit bidder. So that would knock the Halos out of contention.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    A fan of the New York Mets just called in on WFAN and said the following:

    Mike [Francesa], I got a trade for you: Aaron Heilman and Ryan Church… for Jake Peavy.

    Now, what made this jaw-dropping was not what was said by the caller, but the fact that Mr. Francesa proceeded to not laugh his gelatinous ass off. Not only that, but he had to think about the offer. Christ.

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      … And you people say I shouldn’t listen to this show; bah! This is comedic gold you people are missing out on.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        This is comedic gold you people are missing out on.

        Why do they call it “Ovaltine”? The jar is round; the mug is round… They should call it “Roundtine”.

        • Nady Nation

          Soup is not a meal, Jerry

    • Joey H

      Better than someone thinking the Yankees should try for Lincecum.

      • Mike Pop

        That was a joke though. T-Dizzle isnt that bas or is he ?

        • Joey H

          Yes, He is that bad from my understanding.

    • mustang

      I heard that caller too only from a Mets.

      Jamal you called Francesa an idiot and on most days I would agree, but I think today he had a lot of valid points on Cashman.

      • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

        You mean the parts of him being played? Nah, I really think Francesa is just sensationalizing for the purposes of ratings; I really don’t think Cashman being played is the case.

        • mustang

          Maybe. But when was the last time you seen Cashman talk about details from any meeting. I mean the guy doesn’t let anything come out. I’m just saying the CC signing means a lot more to Cashman because of how things went down last season. Signing CC justifies a lot of Cashman’s moves and not signing him open him up to a lot more criticism.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

    TSJC, your ass is mine in fantasy.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Where’s Cam’Ron and Juelz Santana to say “No Homo” when you need them?

    • radnom

      “TSJC, your ass is in my fantasy”

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Mr. Snarky Irrelevant Non Sequitur Jones a/k/a Ridiculous Upside a/k/a Wuthering Heights

        hahahah

  • Mike Pop

    Red Sox and Angels got offers out according to you know who.

    • Ron

      Who? Andrew Baggarly?

  • Shamus

    Per Yellow-tooth Gammons, 6:07 pm

    “Some players have said the Angels have made it clear to Sabathia that they’ll guarantee him six years, but both sides say it is not true. Sabathia has not turned down the Yankees, either. He has offers from the Brewers, Angels and Red Sox, and the Giants have made it clear they will be in the bidding in certain circumstances.”

  • Shamus

    Mike Pop:

    Don’t talk like assclowns then….

    My bad Mike Pop. Just tired of people running around acting like its the end of the world if this guy doesn’t want to come to NYC.

    I guess, seeing as I have rooted for the Yankees for 3 decades, after going through the dark ages (the 80s) I have a different outlook on this team and the free agents they chase.

    They don’t want to come here…. Fine, go get someone else.

    But, there is no animosity from this keyboard. And, I’ve been coming here long enought to know you are one of the more thoughtful posters on here, so if I offended anyone, I do apologize.

    Especially, I apologize to Mr. Fatba— er, CC. Last thing I want is to be the reason he doesn’t sign in NYY.

    • Mike Pop

      Its fine man

    • Nady Nation

      Would you seek out an employer and talk with them for 4 hours about the opportunity they’re presenting to you if you had sincerely no interest in pursuing said opportunity? Answer that before claiming CC has no desire whatsoever to be in NY.

      • Shamus

        Yeah, four hours is nothing if it means it makes the Giants/Dodgers/Angels or whomever up their offer $20 million.

        Hell, if my firm’s main competitor was so inclined, I’d sit in a room naked full of broken glass with NESN on the TV at full blast for 8 hours if it would net me an extra hundred grand a year!!!!

        But, I do get where you are going with this, Nady Nation…

  • Shamus

    Anyone wonder how a guy always on TV and making all that $$$ as a schill for the Sox, he’s going to rock those yellow chicklets?

    Come on, the Sox must have a dentist or two on the payroll, ehhh?

    Anyone down for an off-topic question?

    Who is the biggest Sox Schill in the Boston Media?

    I got it narrowed down to Gammons, Shaughnessy, Mike Holley, Mike Felger, or Tony Assarotti?

  • VO

    5:22pm: Heyman says the Yankees are negotiating with Boras about a four-year deal for more than $65MM

    typical boras deal

  • Shamus

    Per MLBTR:

    Re; Derek Lowe

    5:22pm: Heyman says the Yankees are negotiating with Boras about a four-year deal for more than $65MM.

    Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

    Ol’ Tim’s been busy today over there. His fingers must be covered in blisters and there must be Doritos crumbs all over the place….

  • VO

    5:26pm: WEEI’s Alex Speier says that while the Red Sox touched base with Pettitte’s agent, there’s almost no chance they sign him. They also have not had meaningful dialogue for Ben Sheets.

    I doubt pettite would sign with them

  • Shamus

    Yeah, four hours is nothing if it means it makes the Giants/Dodgers/Angels or whomever up their offer $20 million.

    Hell, if my firm’s main competitor was so inclined, I’d sit in a room naked full of broken glass with NESN on the TV at full blast for 8 hours if it would net me an extra hundred grand a year!!!!

    But, I do get where you are going with this, Nady Nation…

  • Shamus

    Sorry bout double post…

  • Shamus

    NYY thinking 5/100 for Burnett.

    http://www.fannation.com/si_bl.....or-burnett

    And who says the economy has gone to shit?

    My question is, what happeed to K-Rod? Thought he wanted Mo Money? He was talking 5/75 two weeks ago– and now I read its 4 years and in the 40s?

    Wow!

    • Joey H

      Don’t be so gullible. Don’t believe everything you hear. If you heard that some guy named Joey H was selling this huge bridge in Brooklyn would you go run and buy it? No shot he gets this kind of money.

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