Comments on: When does too much become too much? http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/when-does-too-much-become-too-much-6295/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:43:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Open Thread: On parity and salary caps | River Avenue Blues http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/when-does-too-much-become-too-much-6295/#comment-236686 Open Thread: On parity and salary caps | River Avenue Blues Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:00:33 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6295#comment-236686 [...] hard to disagree with that. While I recently questioned baseball’s economic system, if the sport doesn’t need a salary cap, I won’t agitate for one. As Yankee fans, we [...] [...] hard to disagree with that. While I recently questioned baseball’s economic system, if the sport doesn’t need a salary cap, I won’t agitate for one. As Yankee fans, we [...]

]]> By: dkidd http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/when-does-too-much-become-too-much-6295/#comment-229991 dkidd Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:27:12 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6295#comment-229991 http://saveourparks.blogspot.com/2007/11/new-yankee-stadium-gobbles-up-last-bit.html http://saveourparks.blogspot.c.....t-bit.html

]]> By: celerino http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/when-does-too-much-become-too-much-6295/#comment-229891 celerino Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:29:06 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6295#comment-229891 We are the luckiest fans in the world. Sure the tickets are expensive and the beers aren't cheap, but all that money gets put back into the product. I'm tired of hearing whining form other franchises. It's not like they are all playing in crumbling stadiums. They are all benefiting from revenue sharing and the luxury tax. If you want people to see a movie, it's got to be a good movie. If you want people to come to your stadium you have to give them a competitive team . It's amazing to see what happens when you invest in the product; people buy it. We are the luckiest fans in the world. Sure the tickets are expensive and the beers aren’t cheap, but all that money gets put back into the product. I’m tired of hearing whining form other franchises. It’s not like they are all playing in crumbling stadiums. They are all benefiting from revenue sharing and the luxury tax. If you want people to see a movie, it’s got to be a good movie. If you want people to come to your stadium you have to give them a competitive team . It’s amazing to see what happens when you invest in the product; people buy it.

]]> By: tony http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/when-does-too-much-become-too-much-6295/#comment-229792 tony Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:10:14 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6295#comment-229792 I couldn'y have said it better myself Tony I couldn’y have said it better myself

Tony

]]> By: tony http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/when-does-too-much-become-too-much-6295/#comment-229785 tony Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:37:30 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6295#comment-229785 Ben, I do understand your point & that is why it makes me sick. You say that it is the system that is the problem - not the yankees. I do not agree I think the system is perfect. It favors the strong. If you have a strong fan base that supports you financially (statdium-cable etc) I feel you should have an advantage to add premier players over say a region where the fans are indifferent & not as passionatte. These type of regions do not support their teams in the same way thus to me are not entitled to enjoy to as strong a team. As Yankee fan we should feel proud that our team has the resources to go out & hire the best talent that money can buy. To me that is something to be proud of & no fan should feel that we did not do it the rght way. We are Yanjee fans & we demand greatness from our team & our front office. So Mr. Cashman in the unlikely shot that you are reading this I salute you o salute you. Finally Ben, your premise (that we fix the system) threatens the upper hand the yankees posses - An upper hand that I do not & will not give up. I am not ashamed that the yankees have the most money - I am actually proud that they . If they "fix" the system & make it an even playing field - all they will do is gremove the incentive other towns & teams need - that is emulate the yankees. Build your resources & use them to your advantage. If your in FL you can bid lower because you have no state tax. Find outwhat your strenths are & use them. Just dont penalize the yankees for effectively maximizing their resources. I beleive you should reward sucess - Have teams maximize their own resources & lets go to war. If we are all the same what fun would it be if the small towns did not have the yankees to pick on or use as an excuse for theirineptbess. Tony Ben, I do understand your point & that is why it makes me sick. You say that it is the system that is the problem – not the yankees. I do not agree I think the system is perfect. It favors the strong. If you have a strong fan base that supports you financially (statdium-cable etc) I feel you should have an advantage to add premier players over say a region where the fans are indifferent & not as passionatte. These type of regions do not support their teams in the same way thus to me are not entitled to enjoy to as strong a team.

As Yankee fan we should feel proud that our team has the resources to go out & hire the best talent that money can buy. To me that is something to be proud of & no fan should feel that we did not do it the rght way. We are Yanjee fans & we demand greatness from our team & our front office.

So Mr. Cashman in the unlikely shot that you are reading this I salute you o salute you.

Finally Ben, your premise (that we fix the system) threatens the upper hand the yankees posses – An upper hand that I do not & will not give up. I am not ashamed that the yankees have the most money – I am actually proud that they . If they “fix” the system & make it an even playing field – all they will do is gremove the incentive other towns & teams need – that is emulate the yankees. Build your resources & use them to your advantage. If your in FL you can bid lower because you have no state tax. Find outwhat your strenths are & use them. Just dont penalize the yankees for effectively maximizing their resources.

I beleive you should reward sucess – Have teams maximize their own resources & lets go to war. If we are all the same what fun would it be if the small towns did not have the yankees to pick on or use as an excuse for theirineptbess.

Tony

]]> By: tony http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/when-does-too-much-become-too-much-6295/#comment-229771 tony Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:00:37 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6295#comment-229771 My joy comes from seeing the best possible team on the field. I actually enjoy stacking the deck. The Yankees should have the best players - no matter what it takes to get them. And why shouldn't the population centers have a better team - more people will garner enjoyment. Take some time to look across the ocean - there are some worldclass teams - Man u, Chelsea ETC. The Yankees are the priemeir team here & that should never change - no matter how we have to do it. Tony My joy comes from seeing the best possible team on the field. I actually enjoy stacking the deck. The Yankees should have the best players – no matter what it takes to get them.

And why shouldn’t the population centers have a better team – more people will garner enjoyment.

Take some time to look across the ocean – there are some worldclass teams – Man u, Chelsea ETC. The Yankees are the priemeir team here & that should never change – no matter how we have to do it.

Tony

]]> By: Whitey14 http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/when-does-too-much-become-too-much-6295/#comment-229515 Whitey14 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:09:15 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6295#comment-229515 Ben, this was an excellent post. You are right that the system is broken. Teams like those in New York, Boston, Chicago, and LA are playing by the rules and there is NOTHING wrong with that. I hate seeing the Yankees go out and get the two best Free Agent pitchers available, but they have done nothing wrong. Boston had their shot, as did the other clubs, and they didn't rise to the challenge, for whatever reason. I firmly believe that the best organizations are those that have good scouting and Front Office personnel, solid minor league systems and a good core of solid major leaguers in place. Those teams then go out and supplement with Free Agents and trades to round out their clubs. Sometimes a team feels it just doesn't have enough in it's system to be confident that it can compete at the highest level and it dives in to the deeper end of the Free Agent pool. This is what is seemingly going on in New York this offseason. They may have overestimated their pitching talent in the high minors in 2007-2008 and the system allows them to go out and use their resources to compensate with Free Agents/Trades. Every team has this opportunity it's just that some are better at using it than others. Whereas I'm skeptical that Sabathia and Burnett make the Yankees World Series favorites, I do believe that if healthy, Sabathia, Burnett, Wang and Chamberlain do make them the Favorites. Now, if they go out and sign Teixiera, well, that's a post for a different day ;-) Ben, this was an excellent post. You are right that the system is broken. Teams like those in New York, Boston, Chicago, and LA are playing by the rules and there is NOTHING wrong with that. I hate seeing the Yankees go out and get the two best Free Agent pitchers available, but they have done nothing wrong. Boston had their shot, as did the other clubs, and they didn’t rise to the challenge, for whatever reason. I firmly believe that the best organizations are those that have good scouting and Front Office personnel, solid minor league systems and a good core of solid major leaguers in place. Those teams then go out and supplement with Free Agents and trades to round out their clubs. Sometimes a team feels it just doesn’t have enough in it’s system to be confident that it can compete at the highest level and it dives in to the deeper end of the Free Agent pool. This is what is seemingly going on in New York this offseason. They may have overestimated their pitching talent in the high minors in 2007-2008 and the system allows them to go out and use their resources to compensate with Free Agents/Trades. Every team has this opportunity it’s just that some are better at using it than others. Whereas I’m skeptical that Sabathia and Burnett make the Yankees World Series favorites, I do believe that if healthy, Sabathia, Burnett, Wang and Chamberlain do make them the Favorites. Now, if they go out and sign Teixiera, well, that’s a post for a different day ;-)

]]> By: nick blasioli http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/when-does-too-much-become-too-much-6295/#comment-229424 nick blasioli Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:54:41 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6295#comment-229424 sign tex and to hell with what the media or those stupid redsox fans think or anyone else...for that matter...we are at the finish line,,lets cross it... sign tex and to hell with what the media or those stupid redsox fans think or anyone else…for that matter…we are at the finish line,,lets cross it…

]]> By: MikeD http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/when-does-too-much-become-too-much-6295/#comment-229393 MikeD Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:15:38 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6295#comment-229393 Haven't missed it at all. Been hearing it for 30 years. I do appreciate your taking time to interact with your readers. Haven’t missed it at all. Been hearing it for 30 years. I do appreciate your taking time to interact with your readers.

]]> By: LiveFromNY http://riveraveblues.com/2008/12/when-does-too-much-become-too-much-6295/#comment-229383 LiveFromNY Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:59:35 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6295#comment-229383 And I have to wonder what is the alternative? Watching a 21 year old pitcher get boo'd by playoff hungry fans? What is the alternative? And I have to wonder what is the alternative? Watching a 21 year old pitcher get boo’d by playoff hungry fans? What is the alternative?

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