Dec
24

Will Pettitte be the odd man out?

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Apparently, “you snooze, you lose” is as good a philosophy in the crazy world of baseball economics as it is in real life. Unfortunately for Andy Pettitte, he might be learning this lesson the hard way.

Peter Abraham, citing “several different people” who I’m assuming have more authority than, say, his parents or nephew, believes that the Yanks’ signing of Mark Teixeira could lead to the end of Andy’s days in the Bronx. He writes:

Pettitte has been sitting on a $10 million offer from the Yankees for a while now, believing he deserves a salary closer to the $16 million he made last season. But unless the Yankees are able to trade one of their extra hitters, there may be no room for Pettitte.

Signing Teixeira and fellow free agents Damaso Marte, A.J. Burnett and CC Sabathia will add roughly $65 million to the payroll in 2009. That’s about $20 million less than the Yankees have coming off from 2008 and they would like to keep it that way…

Or maybe they’ll just sign Pettitte and keep all the hitters. What’s another $10 million at this point? But as of last night, the team seemed prepared to move on without the left-hander.

Abraham goes on to note that the Yanks may try to trade one of Johnny Damon (NTC), Hideki Matsui (NTC), Xavier Nady or Nick Swisher before bringing back Pettitte. I, however, just don’t buy it.

For weeks, the Yankees have denied every impending signing. They were supposedly never in on the Teixeira negotiations, and for weeks, Abraham and the other Yankee beat writers have accepted the Yanks at their words only to be burned a few days later.

In my opinion, the situation with Pettitte is just the same. The Yankees probably do want Pettitte back, and as Anthony Rieber writes, he probably will be back in 2009. But they want Pettitte back on their $10-million terms, not Pettitte’s $16-million dream. So if the Yanks’ sources leak to the beat writers that maybe they don’t really want Pettitte back anymore, Pettitte may be inclined to take the Yanks’ last best offer. If he doesn’t, then the team moves on with Phil Hughes, Al Aceves and Ian Kennedy. Worse things have happened.

When all is said and done, I’d put my money on Pettitte’s returning to the Bronx for one last hurrah, but I don’t think either side is in much of a hurry to wrap that deal up any time soon.

Categories : Hot Stove League
  • LiveFromNY

    As the team gets better and better, the need for Andy grows smaller. The Yankees, for as big and bad and Evil Empire-ish as they are, can be a sentimental, take-care-of-your-own crew. If not, Andy would be out in the cold (or the Texas semi warmness). I think he wants to come back and the Yankees want him back but it’s not a red hot issue like it was last year when we didn’t sign Santana.

    Andy is going to need to come in under the radar and just sign quietly. We all know he wants to. It’s a matter of pride. But it’s also a matter of the Yankees continuing to put faith in him despite it all. The fan base loves Andy. Andy loves the fan base. He has said that he wants to pitch in the new Stadium and that his family is really loving Westchester so I assume he wants to come back.

    I can’t see Cashman retracting the offer to Andy. I am assuming there is an understanding on both sides that he’ll sign when it’s right for him. If for some reason it doesn’t happen, the Yankees just move ahead without him. He’s not that important a piece right now.

    As for Pete Abe, I am completely done with him and any of his predictions, opinions or trolly readers.

  • Nady Nation

    I know I’ve said this many times, but I think people are vastly underrating Andy Pettitte’s importance to the 2009 team. Right now, we have only have 2 guaranteed (or close to it) 200 inning starters, and one of them is coming off injury. As the roster stands now, we would then have the other 3 rotation spots filled out by 2 kids with innings limits of about 140-150, and a guy who has thrown 200 innings twice in the past 8 years. It reeks to me of Rasner/Ponson all over again. If not Andy, I really hope the Yanks bring in a veteran back-end guy who will take the ball every 5 days without any problems.

    • Jay CT

      I agree. I don’t see how they can spend like they did, yet penny pinch on Andy. One more 200 inning pitcher will really go a long way.

  • Jasper

    There is no salary cap, and 200 million dollars is an arbitrary number the Yankees would LIKE to be under, but it isn’t a cap. Therefore if we need Pettite at $10, 12, or however many Mr. Washingtons it takes I feel like we’ll do it. Money doesn’t feel like a limiting issue to these Yankees, as per CC AJ and Tex, but there are strict limits on the number of players the Yankees take to each game.

    All of the talk about needing to trade one of those four or adding Pettite or Aceves/Hughes being Starter #5… what’s the status of the 25-man roster? What is that shaping up to look like?

  • Rich J

    I think it’s about time that people stopped citing Peter Abraham as a legitimate source. After his posturing over Teixeira, his persistent failure to do any real reporting or to cultivate any real sources, and his total lack of accountability — he is a complete fraud.

    • RustyJohn

      Lol…a complete fraud? For what? Reporting what he is told and speculating on that? Tell me, what other well-groomed sources came out and said, “The Yankees will sign Teixeira on Tuesday, December 23, 2008?” How many said that on December 22? How many said it on December 21st? Every reporter- whether beat or national- was reporting the Yanks were on the outside looking in or long-shots on this deal.

      While you’re at it, let me know how many beat reporters were in on the Swisher trade too before that was made.

      Because Brian Cashman does not divulge deep dark secrets to Abraham or any other reporter does not make that reporter a fraud.

      Looks like in order to be considered legitimate reporters in your book they need to seduce the GM, blow him, and in the act of coitus get him to blurt out every plan, motive and trade in the works. Until Cashman gets a hard on for chubby guys with goatees, that ain’t going to happen.

      • deadrody

        For pulling crap out of his ass. Which is all the “Pettitte the Odd Man Out” post was.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=15305165&ref=profile Doug

      Read his reporting, ignore his opinions.

      • RustyJohn

        I would concur.

      • whozat

        They’re just his opinions. It’s his blog. You want stuff that’s (mostly) facts and not really speculation, read his articles. His blog is much bloggier than the ones at ESPN and other sites. Those are mostly outlets for conglomerations of rumors and short articles that get published frequetly. Pete’s blog is more rumors that he hears that he thinks are legit and his thoughts and opinions on stuff, baseball or otherwise. If you treat it as such, you probably won’t get so cranky about it.

        • rbizzler

          Agreed. I don’t quite understand all of the vitriol aimed PeteAbe’s way. Especially from the nomaas crowd, who can be as fickle and fair-weather as PeteAbe himself. The dude is a beat reporter who provides unparalleled access to the team while also providing some insight and opinion of his own.

          He is not an expert in any way, but he definitely understands the nuances of the game and, at least superficially, embraces new-school statistical analysis. Feel free to disregard his analysis if you wish, but don’t knock the guy for giving you what you want – more info.

          The LoHud posters are another story altogether.

          • deadrody

            All that is true. But his opinions he offers as gospel and then he attacks and belittles people that disagree with him. And it just so happens that his “opinions” are nothing more than uneducated guesses. He hasn’t a clue when it comes to understanding baseball on the field, let alone anything beyond what is available on the surface.

            And his opinions seem, more often than not, to be informed by his bias against A-Rod and Girardi, 2 of his more popular punching bags.

  • Januz

    I have said it before, and I will say it again, I don’t want Pettitte back. Not only for the steroid issue, and for the amount of money. But for the fact he is NOT a major need. Pettitte will be the FIFTH starter, behind CC, Wang, AJ, and Joba. His presence will NEITHER make or break this team. I want to give Phil Hughes a chance, to succeed in The Bronx. If he can’t, I have little doubt, they can get a 2 month rental type in July.

    • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com/ VO

      Pettite will be the 4th starter, joba has innings limits so he will help him which will make him BETTER because he wount blowout his arm. When joba cant go which will be a few times hughes can pitch, if someone gets injured hughes can pitch, but both of them are on innings limits which will be hard to manage. Al Aceves yes would be able to step in every once an a while to pitch for them but what if he is a fraud? what if hughes gets injured again? what if joba has shoulder problems again? at least with pettite your almost guarenteed 200 innings or close to it

      • Jasper

        Or at least another solid arm hanging around should anyone go down with injury

  • Ajay

    Pettitte will come back in the end when all is said and done. What the Yanks need to do is focus on trading an outfielder/dh (Matsui,Damon etc) and signing Manny to DH. The Yanks going into the 2010 season do not have a DH as hard as that is to imagine since we got a few now but we cannot assume Posada will slide into that role. I know it sounds like a reach but no one else seems to want him and a lineup with Manny in it makes everyone else that much better. I don’t believe for a second that the Yanks are weary of payroll and wouldn’t make this happen.

    • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com/ VO

      As much as I would love to see AROD, TEX, and Manny at the heart of the order it just isnt going to happen. Number one because most likely Nady will be the one to get traded and number 2 25 million for Manny is just absurd

      • Ajay

        Am I the only Yanks fan who thinks Tex does not put them over the top?However if Manny was signed he would put this team over the top. We will be eating Tex contract come the last 4 years of it. Manny at 2 or even 3 years is reasonable.

        • steve (different one)

          come on.

          it’s hard for me to criticize this idea without sounding a little hypocritical b/c of how happy i was yesterday, but this is crazy.

          the Yankees are not going to sign Manny.

          they’ve added a #1 starter, a #2/3 starter, an All-Star 1Bman, and a potential 120 OPS+ OFer, and Yankee fans aren’t satisfied?

          and why will they be “eating” Teixeira’s contract when he is 32? that’s insane.

          • Jay CT

            I think it would be incredibly greedy to get Manny. That said, I would still love to see them land him. I don’t know why, perhaps its just the drama it would bring. I don’t know- a 2 year backloaded commitment, and with certain performance levels having a couple more year options? Not the worst idea

          • jsbrendog

            because he’s like tino haha

        • Jay CT

          Yeah man, your saying that we will have to eat the last 4 years… why do the age 32-36 years scare you? This kid has been a machine since high school. He takes this very seriously, cell phone gets turned off once he enters the clubhouse so he doesn’t distract others, and so he cannot get distracted. He will stand for the national anthem and never do anything but look straight ahead, not at the hot blonde in the front row. Basically, he is a military kid bred for this life. What makes you think those years are going to be so horrible. I could see more issues with Manny for 3 or 4 years then Tex

    • Jasper

      Matsui for DH? The Yanks certainly don’t NEED to trade a current outfielder or DH in order to sign a headcase like Manny. Bat or not he’s too much of a headache. What happens the first day he decides it’s only toronto, and he doesn’t feel like playing? Everyone is going to flip, why even bring that into the clubhouse?

  • Nick-YF

    I don’t buy this idea from Pete (who has not exactly had a good month of analysis and prediction). The Yanks have had this offer out to Andy for the whole off-season. The Tex signing was clearly on their radar the whole off-season as well (this was not some last second impulse buy). It was entirely possible that Andy was going to sign before the Tex signing went down, and my guess is that the Yanks still would have gone through with the signing of Tex.

  • Should be working

    Let Manny go…lets not be greedy. DH’s will be available at 2010 and can pick one up then with more money off the books. Its not that easy to just move players esp with their NTC. I think we’re well off where we are, + Andy.

  • ryan

    Starting to feel the same way, pettitte for 10 mill is a good idea, pettitte for 16 is a waste of money. Now that they are signing Tex they need to shed some salary and pettitte would be the best way to do that. Hughes took his lumps made some adjustments and is ready for 09, only problem is his innings cap 150 or so. They’ll have to get creative again.

  • TurnTwo

    Who’s this Andy Pettitte fella?

  • Cor Shep

    Guys, I need your help.

    I’m lookin to buy a 2009 baseball game for 360 whenever they come out. Or maybe just a cheap 08 and update the rosters. What’s the best baseball game? MLB 09? Baseball 2k9? that new one that comes out? Help?

    • KW

      In my experience (have both 360 and ps3) the show is the game to get. But the Ps3 is a little barren when it comes to other games for the system. So if you’re looking to get a ps3 strictly for mlb 09, that won’t be worth it. But if baseball is a huge part of your decision making, go for it

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      The Show, easily. The 2K series sucks. 09 doesn’t come out until March, but you can download updated rosters (current as of the end of the season) for 08.

      • Cor Shep

        Awesome, I Will. Also, isn’t there another baseball game coming out thats getting some attention?

        And say I get the show 08, can I still update rosters throughout the 09 or even 2010 season? Or can you only do updates until the next year’s video game comes out?

        • Should be working

          Im pretty sure the show isnt available for 360. 2k sports is your only option for a baseball game unless something new is comming out that I dont know about. (Or you can play BIGS which is pretty much BLITZ for baseball. Im not happy with 2k baseball but it is the only option. 09 is better than 08 but they still got a ways to go.

        • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

          Yeah, you’re only option for a baseball sim is the 2K series. Now, if you are a stat geek who lives in his mother’s basement and don’t understand how stats like Wins, Batting Average and Runs Batted In can be so relied upon, then MLB Front Office Manager is the game for you!

          • Cor Shep

            gimme the lowdown on that game. Can you still play games, seasons and online like the other games. What’s different about this game? Is it only being in charge of team management?

      • gg

        whats so bad about 2k series? I only have a 360 so I cant get the PS3 game your talking about…I liked 2k8 a lot though on the 360; what did you dislike?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

          I’m with you. I hated The Show…06 I believe it was. Then I was stupid and bought 08. Hated that, too.

        • That guy

          Its just real glitchy and the gameplay is bad in comparison to the MLB series. I’ve never played The Show so I cant comment on that game but as for the 2k series it just doesnt do it for me. http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xb.....ll-2K8/p1/ that review kinda explains it.

          • Jay CT

            I never played the show. It looked cool, but I have Wii and 360 so I got the 2K games. I always have alot of fun with them.

  • Should be working

    Theres only one game for the 360. There is no more MLB as it is the only EA game that was sold to 2k sports. Dont get me started -.- Loved MLB 0*

    • Should be working

      Sorry forgot the reply button. Please dont attack me!

      • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        You get a pass. This time.

        • Mike Pop

          But next time, we take you out back and beat the crap out of you.

          Dont let it happen again.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Heh, I wonder if Peter Abraham predicts the rest of the Yankee front office to start tuning out Brian Cashman, getting unnerved by all the lies and eventually lead to a fracture in the offices. I mean, isn’t that what he predicted would happen to the Yankee players and their clubhouse if Joe Girardi continually withholds the truth from the media?

    • RustyJohn

      It is one thing to hold potential signings close to the vest. It is another thing for a manger to tell reporters straight to their faces that a player isn’t injured, then speak with the GM, who confirms the player is injured, and see that player walk out of the trainer’s room after treatment.

      The first serves a purpose. The latter does nothing other than build distrust and makes it seem as if the organization can’t get their story straight (otherwise known as incompetence).

    • Cor Shep

      Man.. all you guys really hate Pete Abe huh?

      I love both this site and Pete’s site. Both great mix of opinions and sense of humore.

      • RustyJohn

        They expect Pete to come up with every scope before hand and hold him in contempt for not liking to be lied to by Girardi on a recurring basis.

        • steve (different one)

          i don’t “hate” Pete, but his comments section makes me want to claw my eyes out.

          there are a few exceptions (not trying to lump you in), but for the most part, his readers are brutal.

          • whozat

            Oh, yeah. I was a pretty big part of the LoHud community for 2007 and early 2008. I think I started reading there in the 06-07 offseason, but by this spring…I just couldn’t deal with all the idiots any more. And, even aside from that, there are a lot of casual readers/commenters, so the discussion tends to recycle on itself over and over again as, every 45 minutes someone shows up and asks why the Yankees haven’t traded for Peavy and Adrian Gonzalez yet.

            • Cor Shep

              Yea I agree 100% It seems like every 20 posts someone says trade Hughes/Cabrere/Veras for a prime time player – it’s absurd.

              But what I was saying is that I think Pete does a great job with his post. I’m not talking about the comments, just that Pete is a great writer cuz he adds humor and sarcasm to make boring articles exciting

    • Matt M.

      the clubhouse ice cream ban must have been as big of a tragedy to Petey as it was to Moose.

  • Emily

    I don’t see the reasoning behind trading Damon, Swisher, Nady or Matsui. Matsui can DH with his bad knees, Damon is the left fielder, Swisher in center and Nady in right. I’m against trading Damon and Nady especially and still think Matsui retains his hitting skills and Swisher will be a heck of a lot better an option than Brett Gardner. I like the lineup with Teixeira now and think that’s what they needed and see no reason to trade down. And Andy really needs to stop with this waiting game.

    • RustyJohn

      Cause Swisher is sub-par defensively in center. I don’t understand this speculation that they will trade Swisher out of the four. Why they would get rid of the most flexible guy on the roster who is making the least amount of money is beyond me. The only one that makes sense is moving Matsui, having Swisher/Damon alternating in left or DHing.

      • steve (different one)

        well, part of it is that the same things that make Swisher the most desirable to the Yankees (flexibility/contract) make him the most desirable to other teams.

        Matsui would be the best guy to trade, but who would want him?

        • RustyJohn

          Matsui is still more attractive (in some ways) than some of the other FA outfielder/DHs out there. First, he only has one year on his deal so worse case scenario is if he bombs he’s done after 2009. Second, because he is a star in Japan he brings overseas attention and money in to a team that may not ordinarily have it. Third, the guy can hit, is the ultimate pro (who the hell apologizes after breaking their wrist?), and can hit with RISP. Finally, the Yanks would likely eat a chunk of salary.

          He’d be a great fit in Seattle- they need left handed power and OBP guys in the line-up. Plus, Nintendo (owners of the M’s) would probably love to have Ichiro, Jojima and Matsui on the team.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

            Matsui also has this pesky full no-trade clause. How do you get around that without a team giving him a contract extension?

            • That guy

              No to mention Matsui is clutch and if he stays healthy he’s going to be a big reason why we win our next world series. Matsui > Nady

            • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              I definitely concede that the NTC MIGHT be a problem, but we really have no idea if it would or wouldn’t be. I understand where you’re coming from and it should be considered, but saying “he’ll demand a contract extension” is conjecture. Who knows what’s going through Matsui’s ginormous head? I can’t provide a link and expect many people to shoot me down on this, but I seem to remember hearing that Matsui feels that if the Yankees come to him with a trade proposal, he feels it would be the honorable thing to do to allow it. Maybe he really would go along with it out of principal. Maybe he plans on moving back to Japan anyway and isn’t concerned with an extension. Whatever, the point is just: Who knows? It’s all conjecture.

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

                I see where you’re coming from too, but I don’t really know of a non-disgruntled player who would waive his NTC from the good of his heart. Of all of these players, Matsui has an actual set role on the 2009 Yankees. There’s no reason for him to want or need to be traded without compensation. That is, after all, why he negotiated the NTC for himself in the first place.

                • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  True, true.

    • Matt M.

      i agree

      they’ll sign pettitte and then keep all of those players.
      yes we have a surplus, but girardi proved last year that he likes giving people off days to keep them fresh and healthy. didnt he post a million distinct lineups?

      so you’ll have a rotation among the 3 OF spots and DH.
      you can probably expect your main players to be
      LF – Damon
      CF – young cf’er my guess is gardner
      RF – Nady
      DH – Matsui

      and then you’ll rotate swisher around the field in left or right a few days a week. resting damon/nady one of those days and giving damon a cameo in CF once or twice a week.

      is having swisher a little overkill at super utility…yea. but we’re not you’re run of the mill team.

      you keep it as is now, start the year off and rotate it around–keeping everyone fresh. and come the trading deadline you might be able to hit a trade with some team that is looking for a piece to put them over the hump/deal with an injury.

      • leo

        Putting Nady’s bat ahead of Swisher is kind of ridiculous, Swisher is a much better hitter. Nady is the disposable/bench guy here. He’s not going to repeat his ridiculous first half of 2008.

        • Barry

          Prove it.

    • Old Ranger

      The only one of the four you named that can take Bretts place in CF is Johnny. Swisher is not a good (he is adequate) OF, let alone playing CF…Nady is the same. Matsui is a very good DH (hits leftys/rightys as well). Johnny doesn’t cover the ground he once did and has a terrible arm. Brett is our CF for 2009, there is really nobody out there right now that is better all around. There are a few that hit with more power but, nothing else.
      With the staff we have, we need brett in CF to help the pitchers on defence. His hitting will come around as it started to in 2008. 27/09.

      • steve (different one)

        i’ll give you Swisher might be inadequate in CF, but i think he is pretty good in the corners.

        getting Teixeira does give me less concern over giving Gardner more playing time, though i don’t know if i’d call him the full time CFer.

        i am excited to see what he can do.

        • RustyJohn

          Plus, after 2009 Damon will be gone and possibly Nady- so keeping Swisher around is needed for one of those corner outfield spots so they aren’t having to scramble around for 2 or 3 outfielders in a weak market next year.

      • Ryan S.

        Yeah, I like the idea of having Gardner and Cabrera duke it out for CF duty. The plus defense one of those kids gives us in both CF and LF (since Johnny does a good job there) has more value than whatever production a better bat in the #9 spot would do. Besides, those 2 kids actually have upside. I don’t think it would be a problem to keep all of our OF/DH guys we have right now – Swisher would be a badass utility guy. We can always include somebody in a trade during the season when new opportunities could present themselves.

        Gardner is a genuine threat on the bases, something that no one else gives us. If the kid works out and is able to have a .350ish OBP as our #9 hitter, he gives this team an extra dimension which I really like. And I bet he can even lay down a bunt, a skill that we embarrassingly lacked last year.

        • whozat

          “If the kid works out and is able to have a .350ish OBP as our #9 hitter, he gives this team an extra dimension which I really like.”

          Honestly, I think that’s a pretty significant if, especially since he doesn’t have much XBH power. He almost HAS to steal much of the time he gets on base in order to be valuable…and has to walk a LOT too. Which is hard to do for someone that no pitcher is afraid of. Ichiro gets on base at a solid clip by swinging a LOT, managing to make decent contact, and hauling ass down the line. Gardner relies a lot more on waiting out pitchers with mediocre control. I don’t see that working so well at the big league level.

          With Tex on board, they can (and should) give him a couple months to see what he can do. That’s why I’m not sure they’ll move anyone this offseason. If Gardner tanks, they’ll probably want to be able to go to a Swish/Damon/Nady OF as much as possible in the second half. If Gardner has a big first half, and Nady, Matsui and Damon are all going strong…I’d look at one of them getting moved in June or July.

          • Ryan S.

            I think that’s dead on. Worst case scenario for Gardner: he’s a good 4th outfielder / defensive replacement, and a very good pinch runner.

  • Phil McCracken

    If Pete Abe is as accurate on his Pettitte predictions as he was on his ones with Teixeira, it means we’ll see Andy pitching in the new Stadium.

  • Bruno

    They can’t trade anyone other than Matsui for a few reasons:

    1)Damon’s our leadoff hitter, and a damn good one at that. If Jeter leadsoff who hits 2nd? Cano? No thanks, not until he proves that he deserves it.

    2)If Matsui doesn’t prove he’s able to play everyday, then we’d have a hole at DH if Nady/Swisher were traded. No Matsui = Damon DH.

    3)What IF Posada can’t catch? Then he’ll have to DH and we’re screwed lol. Nady-Damon-Swisher in the OF, ugh on D.

    4)After ’09 Damon and Matsui are gone, possibly Nady too. That leaves us with only Swisher. We’ll know what we have with Gardner/Melky at that point. Will A-Jax be ready? What if he’s not?

    I don’t see them moving anyone.

    DH-Damon
    SS-Jeter
    1B-Tex
    3B-A-Rod
    C-Posada
    LF-Nady
    RF-Swisher
    2B-Cano
    CF-Gardner

    Matsui
    Melky
    Molina
    Ransom

  • Old Ranger

    Most think the Yanks will move one of the OF people. My thing was trying to see who we could get along with out.
    I think it comes down to Nady…by a very slim margin. 27/09.

    • Frank B.

      It makes some sense to get rid of Nady, but the problem comes down to who’s playing the OF in 2010. If Matsui & Damon go, what’s left… & I hear FA market for 2010 isn’t good. And Im not so sure about Ajax, right now he’s more wishful thinking. I think we have to hang on to him.

      • Whozat

        Except nady is an FA after 2009 as well. And a boras client. Boras +first time FA=no extension

        • Frank B.

          didn’t know, that kinda stinks… thanks

          • Whozat

            Mlbcontracts.blogspot.com

            That’s cot’s baseball contracts; it’s a great site for contract info on big leaguers

            Also, I think mlbtraderumors.com keeps fa lists for the next year or two.

            • Old Ranger

              Thanks Whozat!

        • Old Ranger

          This is true and was considered.
          The minors are filled with OF guys, except for A-Jax and Edwar Gonzalez they are mid-level players. All have something that stands out but not 3 or 4.Matt Carson-AAA, Seth Fortenberry-AA, Austin Krum and Abe Almonte in A ball. Of that bunch I think Almonte and Fortenberry are the best, although I have not seen much of Krum (actualy, nothing). Almonte, Seth are the farthest away from the show…who knows, they may prove to be better the A-Jax/Gonzo. 27/09.

      • Old Ranger

        FA after ’09; Rick Ankiel, Matt Holliday and the one I would like to snag…Carl Crawford. Other then Carl, I really don’t know much about them, maybe someone can inlighten us. 27/09.

        • Tony S

          carl would be a nice fit

  • deadrody

    Why on God’s green earth would you believe something because Abraham said it ? He’s been lecturing everyone that reads his site for nearly 2 months how the Yankees would only sign one FA and there was NO WAY they could afford CC and Texeira. But NOW, there’s NO WAY they can afford Pettitte, too ???!?! I’d be more inclined to believe the opposite is true.

    Please. That is just idle speculation from someone with no better than average baseball insight.

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