Fishing for names

Heyman: Half of teams in baseball can add impact player
Open Thread: Moving out, moving in

For the folks who think MLB’s own steroid investigation was about as ethical as the players’ alleged drug use, comes this tale of fishing, courtesy of Ken Davidoff. On more than one occasion, it seems as though George Mitchell and his team of investigators tried to catch a big fish by feeding subjects some names. While this hardly clears anyone named in the Mitchell Report, it certainly casts further doubts on the validity of this entire exercise. Maybe Mark McGwire was right after all when he told Congress he wasn’t there to talk about the past. It’s all just very murky water under the bridge.

Heyman: Half of teams in baseball can add impact player
Open Thread: Moving out, moving in
  • 27 this year

    Salem Witch Trials/Red Scare anyone. We just read the Crucible in school and it seems awfully similar…

    • radnom

      Except there are no such thing as witches and half of baseball was juicing in the 90’s.

      The Mitchell Report sucked though, it was all a PR stunt at the expense of a small fraction of the guilty. But can you really feel bad for the 5% that got caught because 95% didn’t?

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      The Crucible is one of my favorite plays EVER, up there with MacBeth! This is way OT though, but I am totally bringing it up in the open thread!

      • 27 this year

        Talking about the play is off topic but I was just bringing up similar ideas but also, half of baseball is guilty.

      • Jay CT… Ben Sheets biggest fan

        If that play is your favorite, aren’t you never supposed to mention its name? Its bad luck right?

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    And this is the guy we’ve got as our Middle East envoy…though, on that note, maybe he should stick to politics and stay away from baseball.

    • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

      I second

    • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com VO

      And although Bush sucked as a president also let’s keep him away from baseball as well

      • Chris

        Maybe he could run the Red Sox?

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Bush running the Red Sox = I just jizzed in my pants

  • Ed

    This is why I’m not ready to believe either side in the Clemens/McNamee battle. I always thought it was quite likely that they (directly or indirectly) made sure McNamee knew that he wasn’t getting off the hook unless he dropped a big enough name. However, his immunity holds only as long as his testimony is found truthful, hence his motivation to make sure Clemens doesn’t get off the hook.

  • Drew

    Shocker

  • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

    Ben, have you read the article on Yahoo! about ‘The Clear’ being legal at the time Bonds supposedly used it?

    • John C

      I always supposed at the time that there was no way the Clear and Cream were illegal and always wondered how something they were not even aware of could be considered an illegal steroid. It never made any sense to me.

      I also don’t believe steroids should be illegal ( though certainly employers could prohibit them in the employment contract regardless), so maybe I could be “biased.”

      The whole thing is a joke. Steroids and steroid-like substances have been widely available for at least 40+ years and there is no way to really know who has and hasn’t used them. Most people in general use illegal drugs at some point in their lives and everyone looks for an edge to help job performance. It’s pretty silly now that supplements that are sold at GNC and Wal-Mart are considered “steroids” and people who use cold medicine are suspected junkies.

      • Ed

        I always supposed at the time that there was no way the Clear and Cream were illegal and always wondered how something they were not even aware of could be considered an illegal steroid. It never made any sense to me.

        I don’t really buy the argument that the clear and cream were legal. The entire case against Bonds is built around those substances being illegal. If his lawyers really believed that, they would have pointed it out when the charges were initially filed and the entire case would’ve fallen apart.

        The drug laws are based on the properties of the drugs, not on the actual drugs themselves, hence how a previously unknown drug could be illegal. With biological molecules, there are always active segments and inactive segments. If all you had to do to get around the law was modify the inactive segments, it would make the laws pointless.

        Most people in general use illegal drugs at some point in their lives and everyone looks for an edge to help job performance.

        That’s a really cynical world view there.

        It’s pretty silly now that supplements that are sold at GNC and Wal-Mart are considered “steroids”

        They’re only called steroids by ignorant reporters looking for a story. There’s two issues involved:

        1) Cheap manufacturing processes leading to contamination

        2) Companies desperate to make money hoping that they can get sneak things in they know they shouldn’t be using

  • Mike Pop

    Wouldn’t doub that is what he was trying to do. You wanna find the best dirt you can in this kind of situation. Does it make it right? I don’t know. Depends on your own feelings I guess.