Comments on: Heyman: Pettitte’s return at ‘less than 50-50′ http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/heyman-pettittes-return-at-less-than-50-50-6900/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:34:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: nick blasioli http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/heyman-pettittes-return-at-less-than-50-50-6900/#comment-257762 nick blasioli Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:08:34 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6900#comment-257762 sign sheets to performance laden contract...keep the kids in aaa until and injury occurs...it just is the right thing to do....remember we relied on the kids last year exclusively and look where it got us.... sign sheets to performance laden contract…keep the kids in aaa until and injury occurs…it just is the right thing to do….remember we relied on the kids last year exclusively and look where it got us….

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/heyman-pettittes-return-at-less-than-50-50-6900/#comment-257707 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:19:42 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6900#comment-257707 <b>Cash needs to go sign Juan Cruz already</b> WHY THE FUCK IS MY BURRITO TAKING THIS LONG TO COOK IN THIS MICROWAVE!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Cash needs to go sign Juan Cruz already

WHY THE FUCK IS MY BURRITO TAKING THIS LONG TO COOK IN THIS MICROWAVE!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/heyman-pettittes-return-at-less-than-50-50-6900/#comment-257703 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:17:27 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6900#comment-257703 The funny thing is, if you grafted Orlando Cabrera and Michael Young together into one super-shortstop, you'd have one damn good player... ... or the worst player in the league. All depends on what sides you're grafting. (There's two sides to every Schwartz.) The funny thing is, if you grafted Orlando Cabrera and Michael Young together into one super-shortstop, you’d have one damn good player…

… or the worst player in the league. All depends on what sides you’re grafting. (There’s two sides to every Schwartz.)

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/heyman-pettittes-return-at-less-than-50-50-6900/#comment-257701 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:15:22 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6900#comment-257701 I can't feed my family on 10M, that's insulting. I can’t feed my family on 10M, that’s insulting.

]]> By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/heyman-pettittes-return-at-less-than-50-50-6900/#comment-257698 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:14:03 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6900#comment-257698 That's probably me, I made that joke a few times. But yes, as radnom says below, it's all the algorithms, nothing more. (ironic that <i>radnom</i> would point out why the phenomenon is not <i>random</i>...) That’s probably me, I made that joke a few times. But yes, as radnom says below, it’s all the algorithms, nothing more.

(ironic that radnom would point out why the phenomenon is not random…)

]]> By: Old Ranger http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/heyman-pettittes-return-at-less-than-50-50-6900/#comment-257694 Old Ranger Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:09:52 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6900#comment-257694 All four of you have good points or worries, which ever. Burnett may miss a start but, I don't see him going on the DL...ok, maybe. But we have it covered, bring up one of the other kids for one or two starts...max DL time, 15 day. Bo; I too would like 5 bonafides but, even with Andy...you will not have 5. Andy is not that good anymore, he may be able to keep us in the game, that's all we expect from him or any other #5 starter. So, one of the guys can give us that quality. Aceves can go 200+ innings, how good he will be is still up in the air. That's why they have ST, see if he can do it and beat out Phil. SDW; Plain "B" is in place all the time, when dealing with people in a high risk industry jsbrendog; Honestly, I don't know how good (or bad) Wolf is as a pitcher but, I know that one of the guys we have can put up numbers comparable to his...otherwise, he would have been signed already. All four of you have good points or worries, which ever.

Burnett may miss a start but, I don’t see him going on the DL…ok, maybe. But we have it covered, bring up one of the other kids for one or two starts…max DL time, 15 day.

Bo; I too would like 5 bonafides but, even with Andy…you will not have 5. Andy is not that good anymore, he may be able to keep us in the game, that’s all we expect from him or any other #5 starter. So, one of the guys can give us that quality. Aceves can go 200+ innings, how good he will be is still up in the air. That’s why they have ST, see if he can do it and beat out Phil.

SDW; Plain “B” is in place all the time, when dealing with people in a high risk industry

jsbrendog; Honestly, I don’t know how good (or bad) Wolf is as a pitcher but, I know that one of the guys we have can put up numbers comparable to his…otherwise, he would have been signed already.

]]> By: Old Ranger http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/heyman-pettittes-return-at-less-than-50-50-6900/#comment-257663 Old Ranger Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:29:31 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6900#comment-257663 A little problem with your thinking here; 1) Cashman goes by the budget set by the CFO and the Family. 2) the deal was, getting Randy or Baltran. 3) Cash tried to talk King Ger. into getting Baltran, Ger. wanted Randy, so we got Randy...fact as was reported. There always has been a budget, no company can run effectively without one. There may be a lot more money around (I'm sure there is) but, they may have it earmarked for International scouting, draft etc...we don't know. But one thing is clear...there is a budget, believe it. A little problem with your thinking here; 1) Cashman goes by the budget set by the CFO and the Family. 2) the deal was, getting Randy or Baltran. 3) Cash tried to talk King Ger. into getting Baltran, Ger. wanted Randy, so we got Randy…fact as was reported.
There always has been a budget, no company can run effectively without one. There may be a lot more money around (I’m sure there is) but, they may have it earmarked for International scouting, draft etc…we don’t know. But one thing is clear…there is a budget, believe it.

]]> By: whozat http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/heyman-pettittes-return-at-less-than-50-50-6900/#comment-257658 whozat Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:20:38 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6900#comment-257658 Yes. That will help with the starter depth problem. The point of this post: "Hm. The Yanks could use more durable starting depth, but it seems like signing Tex has caused them to not want to spend even 10MM on a starter; they've finally gone over-budget." You: "Spend money on a reliever." Yes. That will help with the starter depth problem.

The point of this post:

“Hm. The Yanks could use more durable starting depth, but it seems like signing Tex has caused them to not want to spend even 10MM on a starter; they’ve finally gone over-budget.”

You:

“Spend money on a reliever.”

]]> By: Old Ranger http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/heyman-pettittes-return-at-less-than-50-50-6900/#comment-257657 Old Ranger Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:19:57 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6900#comment-257657 About time someone brought that little fact up. As usual I am to late. About time someone brought that little fact up. As usual I am to late.

]]> By: andrew http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/heyman-pettittes-return-at-less-than-50-50-6900/#comment-257640 andrew Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:46:53 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6900#comment-257640 <b>why won’t he take a lower $ deal, prove himself and get the big contract next year?</b> because he probably is planning on retiring <b>similar to the contract the Red Sox gave John Smoltz, only for fewer $ (because Smoltz is (rightly, I believe) viewed as being worth more at this point. And given the choice, I’d vastly prefer Smoltz — who has a history of healing quickly and coming back strong, who if he can’t cut it as a starter looks like he can continue to be a lock down closer, and who, when healthy, finishes like a lion every year</b> Smoltz is out till May, at the EARLIEST. If he comes back in May, and pitches the rest of the season healthy, he will be getting $10 million. $10 million for 4 months, as opposed to Pettitte's offer of $10 million for the whole year. It would appear, rightfully so, that Smoltz will be getting paid more per start this year. Smoltz contract over the full year would come out to be around $14 million, and i'm guessing that's approximately what he'd be getting paid if he were healthy. why won’t he take a lower $ deal, prove himself and get the big contract next year?
because he probably is planning on retiring

similar to the contract the Red Sox gave John Smoltz, only for fewer $ (because Smoltz is (rightly, I believe) viewed as being worth more at this point. And given the choice, I’d vastly prefer Smoltz — who has a history of healing quickly and coming back strong, who if he can’t cut it as a starter looks like he can continue to be a lock down closer, and who, when healthy, finishes like a lion every year
Smoltz is out till May, at the EARLIEST. If he comes back in May, and pitches the rest of the season healthy, he will be getting $10 million. $10 million for 4 months, as opposed to Pettitte’s offer of $10 million for the whole year. It would appear, rightfully so, that Smoltz will be getting paid more per start this year. Smoltz contract over the full year would come out to be around $14 million, and i’m guessing that’s approximately what he’d be getting paid if he were healthy.

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