Comments on: Jeter’s future and Mark Teixeira http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/jeters-future-and-mark-teixeira-6478/ A New York Yankees Blog Mon, 28 May 2012 01:49:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Mike http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/jeters-future-and-mark-teixeira-6478/#comment-249418 Mike Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:17:10 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6478#comment-249418 What about Jeter to 2b or 3b and move Arod to DH or Cano to another team? There are plenty of permutations...but LF or DH are the most likely options What about Jeter to 2b or 3b and move Arod to DH or Cano to another team? There are plenty of permutations…but LF or DH are the most likely options

]]> By: James http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/jeters-future-and-mark-teixeira-6478/#comment-248237 James Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:35:12 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6478#comment-248237 I totally disagree with all above. WTF is A-ROD? HE is A CHOKE EVERYTIME. PERIOD. I totally disagree with all above. WTF is A-ROD? HE is A CHOKE EVERYTIME. PERIOD.

]]> By: ortforshort http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/jeters-future-and-mark-teixeira-6478/#comment-246251 ortforshort Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:40:16 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6478#comment-246251 Fielding stats, by their nature, are incredibly unreliable. Too much subjectivity, not enough quantifiable info to make them work. Relying on fielding stats alone is a fools game. You need to use judgement in large doses when evaluating defense. Hopefully, Yankee brass doesn't put nearly as much stock in these bogus numbers as some of the bloggers here do. Fielding stats, by their nature, are incredibly unreliable. Too much subjectivity, not enough quantifiable info to make them work. Relying on fielding stats alone is a fools game. You need to use judgement in large doses when evaluating defense. Hopefully, Yankee brass doesn’t put nearly as much stock in these bogus numbers as some of the bloggers here do.

]]> By: Januz http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/jeters-future-and-mark-teixeira-6478/#comment-246124 Januz Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:49:22 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6478#comment-246124 I had a similiar rant that is true, but it was used to rebut the Anti-Jeter rant that was used here, and to let that person I am quite aware on how to manipulate data, and to use it to determine a certain outcome. The Win Shares rating him 9th best shortstop in the AL come to mind. As for the use of numbers, no one suggests dismissing stats altogether, but in order to get the entire picture , they must be used correctly. Perhaps the most underrated stat EVER is the fact that Joe DiMaggio had a 1 to 1 strikeout rati. That number alone, tells how great he was. I had a similiar rant that is true, but it was used to rebut the Anti-Jeter rant that was used here, and to let that person I am quite aware on how to manipulate data, and to use it to determine a certain outcome. The Win Shares rating him 9th best shortstop in the AL come to mind.
As for the use of numbers, no one suggests dismissing stats altogether, but in order to get the entire picture , they must be used correctly. Perhaps the most underrated stat EVER is the fact that Joe DiMaggio had a 1 to 1 strikeout rati. That number alone, tells how great he was.

]]> By: Ryan S. http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/jeters-future-and-mark-teixeira-6478/#comment-246109 Ryan S. Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:29:36 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6478#comment-246109 His UZR in '08 was, I think, -0.4 ... totally acceptable. If he can keep putting up a mediocre but not disgusting performance at SS, he should actually be good for a few more years at SS. I'm not projecting that to happen though ... he'll probably revert to being an unacceptable option within the next 2 years. However, his '08 performance does give me a glimmer of hope that we might be able to do ok with him in the middle until we find a viable replacement. His UZR in ’08 was, I think, -0.4 … totally acceptable. If he can keep putting up a mediocre but not disgusting performance at SS, he should actually be good for a few more years at SS. I’m not projecting that to happen though … he’ll probably revert to being an unacceptable option within the next 2 years. However, his ’08 performance does give me a glimmer of hope that we might be able to do ok with him in the middle until we find a viable replacement.

]]> By: MikeD http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/jeters-future-and-mark-teixeira-6478/#comment-246095 MikeD Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:17:36 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6478#comment-246095 This probably isn't worth worrying about, at least not yet. Unless he collapses over the next two seasons, which will make the decision any easy one, the Yankees will be signing Jeter to a new contract. Despite all their great hitters, they've never had one reach 3,000 hits, so Jeter's a keeper for at least the next three seasons, which means he has a new contract coming. While Jeter did rate as the worst defensive SS over the past two years, that rating was mostly impacted by his '07 season when he had a knee issue that substatially reduced his range. In '08, his range improved to where it was at least acceptable. After he reaches 3,000, the amount of playing time he gets will be based on how well he can still hit. If he's still .300, then he'll serve as a combination of LF, DH, back-up SS where he can still generate 450 ABs. Don't know why the press just assumes Jeter will have an issue moving off SS as he ages. This probably isn’t worth worrying about, at least not yet. Unless he collapses over the next two seasons, which will make the decision any easy one, the Yankees will be signing Jeter to a new contract. Despite all their great hitters, they’ve never had one reach 3,000 hits, so Jeter’s a keeper for at least the next three seasons, which means he has a new contract coming.

While Jeter did rate as the worst defensive SS over the past two years, that rating was mostly impacted by his ’07 season when he had a knee issue that substatially reduced his range. In ’08, his range improved to where it was at least acceptable. After he reaches 3,000, the amount of playing time he gets will be based on how well he can still hit. If he’s still .300, then he’ll serve as a combination of LF, DH, back-up SS where he can still generate 450 ABs. Don’t know why the press just assumes Jeter will have an issue moving off SS as he ages.

]]> By: DanElmaleh http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/jeters-future-and-mark-teixeira-6478/#comment-246000 DanElmaleh Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:59:10 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6478#comment-246000 What was all this talk about moving aging stars to 1b? When is the last time the Yankees did that? Roy Smalley for a bit between Chambliss and Mattingly? Doesn't count. I guess you can go back to 68 or so and find Mantle there. Other than that, it did not happen with Paulie, Stanley, Winfield, Jackson or anyone... Having a good 1b is a good thing. What was all this talk about moving aging stars to 1b? When is the last time the Yankees did that? Roy Smalley for a bit between Chambliss and Mattingly? Doesn’t count. I guess you can go back to 68 or so and find Mantle there. Other than that, it did not happen with Paulie, Stanley, Winfield, Jackson or anyone… Having a good 1b is a good thing.

]]> By: steve (different one) http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/jeters-future-and-mark-teixeira-6478/#comment-245994 steve (different one) Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:51:47 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6478#comment-245994 what do the Elias rankings have to do with anything? everyone knows the Elias rankings are stupid, including the "techno-geeks". stop trying to use Elias rankings as a way to lump together all advanced statistics. i know you posted this same rant at LoHud, and i am sure it played better over there, but most people here understand the Elias system is basically worthless. putting too much emphasis on stats is a mistake. but so is dismissing them altogether. what do the Elias rankings have to do with anything?

everyone knows the Elias rankings are stupid, including the “techno-geeks”.

stop trying to use Elias rankings as a way to lump together all advanced statistics.

i know you posted this same rant at LoHud, and i am sure it played better over there, but most people here understand the Elias system is basically worthless.

putting too much emphasis on stats is a mistake. but so is dismissing them altogether.

]]> By: Rich http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/jeters-future-and-mark-teixeira-6478/#comment-245950 Rich Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:44:26 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6478#comment-245950 Chan-Ho Park, too. Chan-Ho Park, too.

]]> By: ortforshort http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/jeters-future-and-mark-teixeira-6478/#comment-245946 ortforshort Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:41:54 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6478#comment-245946 Jeter will be 36 this year and he is still playing at a high level. When you consider the whole package, he is still one of the most valuable players in the game. In two years, when his contract is up, we'll see where we are. He'll be thirty eight and shouldn't stand in the way if there's a young stud replacement avaiable. If there isn't, and he's still playing at near his current high level, resign him. He is a great athlete who keeps himself in great shape and he's a tremendously positve presence in the clubhouse. Jeter will be 36 this year and he is still playing at a high level. When you consider the whole package, he is still one of the most valuable players in the game. In two years, when his contract is up, we’ll see where we are. He’ll be thirty eight and shouldn’t stand in the way if there’s a young stud replacement avaiable. If there isn’t, and he’s still playing at near his current high level, resign him. He is a great athlete who keeps himself in great shape and he’s a tremendously positve presence in the clubhouse.

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