Comments on: NY Pol wants to delay stadium vote http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/ny-pol-wants-to-delay-stadium-vote-6501/ A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:43:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: NY Yankee Fan http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/ny-pol-wants-to-delay-stadium-vote-6501/#comment-247048 NY Yankee Fan Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:15:21 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6501#comment-247048 The Yankees, not NY City or NY State, are paying for the stadium. The tax exempt bonds permit the team to borrow the money on better terms then without the designation. The State and City money is being used to improve public transportation around the stadium, with the most money being used to create a Metro-North station, which will solely be used to help upstaters coming from Westchester County -- the area Brodsky represents. Of course, we do not hear a peep from Brodsky over whether this is a wise expediture of public money! No, he simply wants to interfere with the (big suprise when being rquired to use union labor in NY) the cost overruns in building the stadium itself. This is why the board that is going to vote on the issue is giving him the back of the hand and going forward with the vote anyway. We should keep in mind the context: Brodsky is trying to make a name for himself in case Andy Cuomo is picked for Hillary Clinton's Senate seat. If that happens, the NY State legislature sitting as a single body pick the new Attorney General. Because there are more state assemblymembers then state senators, the person is pretty much always from the assembly. That is what happened recently when former Assemblymember DiNapoli became Comptroller this past year. It is also what happened when former Assemblymember Koppell became Attorney General a number of years ago. How much money has Brodsky tossed to fellow legislators to advance this dream od a statewide office? Nothing illegal, that is simply politics, but we should keep this stuff in mind when some politician is grandstanding on an issue. The Yankees, not NY City or NY State, are paying for the stadium. The tax exempt bonds permit the team to borrow the money on better terms then without the designation. The State and City money is being used to improve public transportation around the stadium, with the most money being used to create a Metro-North station, which will solely be used to help upstaters coming from Westchester County — the area Brodsky represents. Of course, we do not hear a peep from Brodsky over whether this is a wise expediture of public money! No, he simply wants to interfere with the (big suprise when being rquired to use union labor in NY) the cost overruns in building the stadium itself. This is why the board that is going to vote on the issue is giving him the back of the hand and going forward with the vote anyway.

We should keep in mind the context: Brodsky is trying to make a name for himself in case Andy Cuomo is picked for Hillary Clinton’s Senate seat. If that happens, the NY State legislature sitting as a single body pick the new Attorney General. Because there are more state assemblymembers then state senators, the person is pretty much always from the assembly. That is what happened recently when former Assemblymember DiNapoli became Comptroller this past year. It is also what happened when former Assemblymember Koppell became Attorney General a number of years ago.

How much money has Brodsky tossed to fellow legislators to advance this dream od a statewide office? Nothing illegal, that is simply politics, but we should keep this stuff in mind when some politician is grandstanding on an issue.

]]> By: Manimal http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/ny-pol-wants-to-delay-stadium-vote-6501/#comment-246825 Manimal Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:11:02 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6501#comment-246825 Don't Mess with Ben and his subways. Don’t Mess with Ben and his subways.

]]> By: Joey H http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/ny-pol-wants-to-delay-stadium-vote-6501/#comment-246824 Joey H Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:07:14 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6501#comment-246824 Eh. I pass by it a few times a week and it just isn't as great looking as Yankee stadium, Fan bias aside. I don't dig that look they went with. Eh. I pass by it a few times a week and it just isn’t as great looking as Yankee stadium, Fan bias aside. I don’t dig that look they went with.

]]> By: Januz http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/ny-pol-wants-to-delay-stadium-vote-6501/#comment-246817 Januz Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:49:33 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6501#comment-246817 I was referring to The Metro North Station part of the Yankee Stadium Plan. This was planned since the 1920s, like the Second Ave Subway was. I have seen how inept the MTA has been down through the years, and I will believe stations will open when they open. No better example is the Cortland St station, closed since 9/11. Almost as pathetic is the Chambers St/ City Hall Station. The seat of goverment should have a first class station, not one looking like the Bowery Station on the "J". Until they fix those two stations up, I cannot believe anything politicians say on transportation and construction issues. I was referring to The Metro North Station part of the Yankee Stadium Plan. This was planned since the 1920s, like the Second Ave Subway was.
I have seen how inept the MTA has been down through the years, and I will believe stations will open when they open. No better example is the Cortland St station, closed since 9/11. Almost as pathetic is the Chambers St/ City Hall Station. The seat of goverment should have a first class station, not one looking like the Bowery Station on the “J”. Until they fix those two stations up, I cannot believe anything politicians say on transportation and construction issues.

]]> By: Ben K. http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/ny-pol-wants-to-delay-stadium-vote-6501/#comment-246813 Ben K. Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:39:16 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6501#comment-246813 Ok. What are you talking about? The Mets' stadium looks great as well. Take off the Yankee blinders here. You're starting to sound like a ranting loon. Ok. What are you talking about? The Mets’ stadium looks great as well. Take off the Yankee blinders here. You’re starting to sound like a ranting loon.

]]> By: Januz http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/ny-pol-wants-to-delay-stadium-vote-6501/#comment-246812 Januz Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:38:11 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6501#comment-246812 The most important element in business is TIMING. No one can forecast the economy, inflation, interest rates, political climate, value of the dollar, taxpayer interest, bond market, and countless other things needed to create a stadium, five or ten years from now. The Yankees and the Mets were lucky to have gotten this accomplished when they did (Try being a Vikings, or Tampa Bay Rays fan. You have playoff teams, who could be out of town within the next five years, because of the difficulty in securing new stadiums). The Yankees are well ahead of the curve, compared to the Mets. They researched these issues thoroughly (As well as the artistic element of it (Limestone being used like the original 1923 Stadium)). Thus, invested a lot more in their stadium. But they will save in the long run over the El Cheapo approach at Citi Field, because they will not be upgrading 20 years from now, to the same degree the Mets will. The most important element in business is TIMING. No one can forecast the economy, inflation, interest rates, political climate, value of the dollar, taxpayer interest, bond market, and countless other things needed to create a stadium, five or ten years from now. The Yankees and the Mets were lucky to have gotten this accomplished when they did (Try being a Vikings, or Tampa Bay Rays fan. You have playoff teams, who could be out of town within the next five years, because of the difficulty in securing new stadiums).
The Yankees are well ahead of the curve, compared to the Mets. They researched these issues thoroughly (As well as the artistic element of it (Limestone being used like the original 1923 Stadium)). Thus, invested a lot more in their stadium. But they will save in the long run over the El Cheapo approach at Citi Field, because they will not be upgrading 20 years from now, to the same degree the Mets will.

]]> By: Ben K. http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/ny-pol-wants-to-delay-stadium-vote-6501/#comment-246809 Ben K. Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:25:57 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6501#comment-246809 You do know that the Second Ave. subway in some form is under construction and that part of it will open in 2015, right? These projects aren't related at all. Public funding for a stadium used by a baseball team shouldn't ever be compared to a possible subway line. No one had the guys to stand up to the Brodsky's of the world. In fact, they didn't have the guts to stand up to these guys and went behind their backs to illegally value land and pass tax-exempt bonds with as little public input as possible. You do know that the Second Ave. subway in some form is under construction and that part of it will open in 2015, right? These projects aren’t related at all. Public funding for a stadium used by a baseball team shouldn’t ever be compared to a possible subway line.

No one had the guys to stand up to the Brodsky’s of the world. In fact, they didn’t have the guts to stand up to these guys and went behind their backs to illegally value land and pass tax-exempt bonds with as little public input as possible.

]]> By: Manimal http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/ny-pol-wants-to-delay-stadium-vote-6501/#comment-246808 Manimal Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:25:50 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6501#comment-246808 Yeah I'm pretty excited. I was just saying, they got their priorities mixed up. Yeah I’m pretty excited. I was just saying, they got their priorities mixed up.

]]> By: Ben K. http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/ny-pol-wants-to-delay-stadium-vote-6501/#comment-246807 Ben K. Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:23:20 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6501#comment-246807 The new stadium in the Meadowlands is nearly finished. The new stadium in the Meadowlands is nearly finished.

]]> By: Manimal http://riveraveblues.com/2009/01/ny-pol-wants-to-delay-stadium-vote-6501/#comment-246806 Manimal Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:22:25 +0000 http://riveraveblues.com/?p=6501#comment-246806 Its just money. I still don't think Any new york baseball team should have a new stadium right now, maybe 5-10 years. Football teams needed a stadium more so than Baseball teams, considering they share one. Its just money.

I still don’t think Any new york baseball team should have a new stadium right now, maybe 5-10 years.

Football teams needed a stadium more so than Baseball teams, considering they share one.

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