Olney: Teams concerned about Sheets’s shoulder

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When talking about Ben Sheets, the subject of his health inevitably arises. He’s missed significant time in 2005 through 2007, and ended last year with a torn muscle in his elbow. This has raised a red flag of sorts with other teams. There’s been very little chatter about Sheets this off-season, save for a couple of stories from the Winter Meetings involving the Yankees, and some interest from the Rangers. It appears, according to Buster Olney, that teams are concerned “about his shoulder, and not his elbow.” If there is indeed damage in the righty’s shoulder, it certainly explains the lack of interest. I have to wonder, though, why Sheets would decline arbitration if his shoulder was cause for concern.

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  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    I still think he is going to the rangers.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      I’m thinking either that or back to the Brew Crew.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        I wouldn’t be shocked to see him end up in Boston.

        Seriously, they have money to spend, but none of their desired targets are still around. They have a nice top three of Lester-Beckett-Diasuke, why not gamble on the upside of Sheets?

        The reasons he made sense to us also make sense to them.

        I’ll stop talking now.

        • A.D.

          Shhhh Theo may read this!!!!

          Dunno if they want to pay his asking price, and they already picked up their risk/reward guy in Penny…. but they may

        • ‘The’ Steve

          I don’t think so, because they already signed a high risk/high reward guy in Brad Penny. I don’t think they’ll want to burn 15 mil in 2009 and two spots on their 40 man for guys who probably won’t pitch much.

        • steve (different one)

          i think the fact that the Sox signed Penny over Sheets is VERY telling as to what teams are seeing in his medicals.

          Sheets was a by-the-book Theo move and they have PLENTY of money to take the chance.

          that they opted for Penny tells me Sheets is more injured than we thought.

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Probably right.

  • http://www.youtube.com/kevyyankees Kevin G.

    I think Sheets is only going to get a one-year deal.

    • ‘The’ Steve

      It makes the most sense, and if the Yanks had lost out on some of their FA targets, I’d be advocating for them to do it.

      1 year at decent money (10-12 mil) with Club options for 2010 and maybe 2011. The team who signs him is taking a gamble, if it pays off they deserve an option or two to exercise to hedge the risk. If not, its just a 1 year deal.

  • Ivan

    Wow we often say the FO know more than we do, and from reading the article about Sheets health, then FO of the yanks must really know what they are doing and know more than us.

    Maybe Burnett might work out.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Sheets being healthy or not healthy doesn’t make giving 32 year old, injury prone, non-ace pitcher A.J. Burnett 82M of 5 years any smarter.

      • Ivan

        Understand.

        But Im just saying, that hey if Sheets is that damange then maybe it was justified to not sign the guy.

        Now I agree it’s not good to sign Burnett to that deal. I hope he proves me wrong I really do.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        82M over 5 years, sorry.

      • ‘The’ Steve

        If we didn’t, the Braves would have.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          And that’s bad… how?

          • http://www.styleforum.net Billy Beane

            that means another team was willing to go 5 years 80 million. the atlanta braves were ready to make him their ace. they can’t afford to pay guys that kind of money to sit on the dl like we can.

            if a poor team like atlanta was also not concerned about his health, then our concerns should be eased.

            • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              if a poor team like atlanta was also not concerned about his health, then our concerns should be eased.

              … Wait, the fact that more than one team was interested in his services means that he’s not a significant injury risk? That makes sense… how?

              • GG

                He learned how to stay healthy (hopefully, he’s a 32 year old who has been around, its about time) plus he has a whole lot more upside than Lowe, he has ace stuff

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  He learned how to stay healthy

                  We hope…

                  plus he has a whole lot more upside than Lowe, he has ace stuff

                  All based solely on hope and potential. Burnett has a higher ceiling, yes, but a lower floor, IMO, and he required more years and more dollars. Much bigger risk.

                  But none of this has anything to do with the Braves. I fail to see how the Braves being willing to give Burnett 5/80 means that we were justified in gambling on Burnett, or that the deal is somehow less risky because of the existence of the Braves interest.

              • http://www.styleforum.net Billy Beane

                that means more than one team has done their due diligence and were not scared off like they are with sheets. no one is touching sheets with a 10 foot pole.

                i did not say that he is not an injury risk–every one knows he is. but there is a reason why more teams were interested in burnett despite his price tag and no teams are really interested in sheets even for 2-3 years.

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  That’s not what was being said here in this thread. You’re moving the goalposts.

                  I said Sheets being badly hurt doesn’t justify the huge risk we took in Burnett. The Steve said that if we didn’t take the huge risk, the Braves would have. And I replied that this fact (the Braves also being willing to take a risk) is also immaterial to us taking that huge risk.

                  Giving Burnett 5/82 was a monumental gamble, as Burnett has rarely been dominant, is often hurt, and is old. It’s a mistake, IMO. Had we not done that, and the Braves did, I would have called it a mistake for the Braves, as well.

                  If you’re playing blackjack and you’re hitting on 17, that’s dumb. If the guy next to you is also hitting on 17, that doesn’t make what you’re doing any less dumb. The dealer is still going to stay on 17.

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Will Demps should have been going for the strip, not the tackle. You’re not going to stop AP with a full head of steam 3 yards out, and even if you do, first and goal from the 3 isn’t much better.

    Peterson’s had fumblitis and he’s carrying the ball like a loaf of bread, defender-side.

    Go for the strip.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      AP taunted him a little bit too.

    • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

      Peterson has always always carried the football in his right hand most of the time throughout his career collegiate and short pro career. As long as he keeps the ball close to his body, he’ll be fine.

    • http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v621/134/99/513321182/n513321182_2118948_7574.jpg Nady Nation

      That was Quentin Demps, no? Could be wrong, but I thought Will was a Texan. Definitely agree with your point though.

      • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

        Will is a Texan. They’re brothers or cousins………..something like that.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Sorry, my bad. You’re correct.

          • Andy In Sunny Daytona

            And you won the fantasy league? OUTRAGEOUS!!!

            • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Touché.

              But yes, Andy, I did win the fantasy league. Thank you for mentioning it.

              In fact, I won it pretty easily.

              [ Fantasy Football Championship Bragging Rights Name Drop #3 of 1000 ]

  • Jake K.

    It’s a bummer for Sheets. I was really hoping to see him in pinstripes next year, but I guess you can’t fault the Yanks for passing. I hope the goes back to the Brewers, rather than somewhere like the Sox, because he’s dope when healthy.

  • Ivan

    Wow first postseaon start from McNabb since the Super Bowl.

  • Ivan

    Come on, you need TD’s not FG’s.

  • http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v621/134/99/513321182/n513321182_2118948_7574.jpg Nady Nation

    God, Tarvaris Jackson is an embarrassment of an NFL QB.

    • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

      That’s an exaggeration.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      God, Tarvaris Jackson Derek Anderson is an embarrassment of an NFL QB.

      Fixed.

      • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

        God, Derek Anderson JT O’Sullivan is an embarrassment of an NFL QB.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          God, Mike Martz is an embarrassment of an NFL offensive coordinator.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      God, Tarvaris Jackson is an embarrassment of an NFL QB.

      Fun Fact #6:

      Gus Frerotte, 2008 Completion Percentage, TD/INT Ratio, and QB Rating:
      59.1%, 12/15, 73.7

      Tarvaris Jackson, 2008 Completion Percentage, TD/INT Ratio, and QB Rating:
      59.1%, 9/2, 95.4

      • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

        Fun Fact #7:

        tommiesmithjohcarlos really likes fun facts.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          I do.

          Fun Fact #8:

          Shaun Hill and Seneca Wallace had higher QB ratings in 2008 than Eli Manning did.

          • Mike Pop

            I guess Eli sucks

  • Ivan

    Oh yeah, that’s what the fuck im talking about.

  • Ivan

    fuckin Viks are killing the Eagles on 3rd down conversions.

  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    As a giants fan, minnesota better win.

  • Ivan

    Poor job by the Eagles D. After a TD, you should stop Minny right there and maintain the current lead and instead it’s now 2 pt lead.

  • Jake H

    The best bed for Sheets is a 1 year deal with an option. He would still be able to cash in on a big pay day and a long term deal if he could stay healthy.

    • 27 this year

      Actually a one year deal is better (For Sheets) because if the club wants to exercise the option, they probably think that is a better deal than what Sheets woudl get on the open market. If Sheets gets injured and doesn’t pitch the option would be declined. If he is healthy and pitches, it gets exercised.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    What a pick. LoL at Donovan McFAIL.

    • Ivan

      I just hope the Eagles play those fuckin Giants.

      • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

        I kinda want you bastards to lose. We could be meeting up with the Giants a 15-0 team and the Eagles just the opposite, yet I’d still wouldn’t feel comfortable playing them. It’s all because of that fucking Brian Westbrook.

  • Ivan

    Nice play by Donovan.

  • Ivan

    Don’t ya luv the crowd booing for childress running the ball. Gee do these fans know who there QB is.

  • Ivan

    Can the fuckin eagles make a stop on 3rd down please.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Apparently, yes.

  • Ivan

    bitch ass penalty.

  • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

    Is Brian Dawkins a HOF?

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I’d say yes.

      • http://asportsaddictneedsdivineintervention.blogspot.com/ E-ROC

        I would agree.

  • GG

    I didnt know the knicks and celts were going at it, i hope garnett breaks both legs, i fukin cant stand him…hes 6’11 and talks trash to point gaurds what a loser, pick on a big man….we also better not release stephon to get picked up by them, if we gotta pay we might as well keep him off the court, hes the kinda scum who would promise to go to the western conf and than go back on it

  • Ivan

    Come on Westbrook.

  • Mike R.

    I will now counter your empirical sehimany with a cliché filled tirade:

    You are trying to ruin the game with your number crunching! You nerd! I don’t need your stats. I have EYES! Eyes that I use to watch games. It’s about intangibles that don’t show up on your little sheet. I bet you’ve never even played! Get out there and smell some dirt. I bet you are 14 years old!

    Fun fact # 1995
    I thoroughly enjoy reading your comments. :)

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      And I enjoyed that in turn.

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