<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Cashman: &#8220;We&#8217;ve won the winter &#8230;&#8221;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://riveraveblues.com/2009/02/cashman-weve-won-the-winter-7650/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/02/cashman-weve-won-the-winter-7650/</link>
	<description>A New York Yankees Blog</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 02:04:59 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator>
<xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" />
	<item>
		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/02/cashman-weve-won-the-winter-7650/#comment-275157</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://riveraveblues.com/?p=7650#comment-275157</guid>
		<description>Most of the newbies have a sense of humor and learn the rhythms of the place and integrate themselves fine.

Some of them are intractable douches with sticks up their asses and turd for brains.  If we piss/scare any of them off, it&#039;s for the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the newbies have a sense of humor and learn the rhythms of the place and integrate themselves fine.</p>
<p>Some of them are intractable douches with sticks up their asses and turd for brains.  If we piss/scare any of them off, it&#8217;s for the best.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Old Ranger</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/02/cashman-weve-won-the-winter-7650/#comment-275154</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Ranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://riveraveblues.com/?p=7650#comment-275154</guid>
		<description>I feel chastised!
I do like a lot of the interplay between you guys, it sometimes is fun (as I have mentioned before) but, give the newbies a break. A lot of them come here for the same reasons you mentioned and don&#039;t know the rules as well as most do.
I moved here from LoHud back in...hell, I forgot but I know it was somewhere around winter of 2007 (or spring of &#039;08) but, I just read the stuff and commented every once in a while. Of course, with a different name and IP (is that right). So, I have been around longer then it seems, sorry!
Water under the bridge, let&#039;s get on with the games!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel chastised!<br />
I do like a lot of the interplay between you guys, it sometimes is fun (as I have mentioned before) but, give the newbies a break. A lot of them come here for the same reasons you mentioned and don&#8217;t know the rules as well as most do.<br />
I moved here from LoHud back in&#8230;hell, I forgot but I know it was somewhere around winter of 2007 (or spring of &#8217;08) but, I just read the stuff and commented every once in a while. Of course, with a different name and IP (is that right). So, I have been around longer then it seems, sorry!<br />
Water under the bridge, let&#8217;s get on with the games!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/02/cashman-weve-won-the-winter-7650/#comment-274947</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://riveraveblues.com/?p=7650#comment-274947</guid>
		<description>Here’s my response:

A lot of the time on here where several of the board regulars “come to the defense of” or “pile on” to a singular individual not in that group of board regulars, it’s not because they’re merely saying something we disagree with, it’s because they’re either taking their disagreements with people personally (or rudely) or they’re behaving in the annoying mannerisms of a newbie who doesn’t take the time to understand the workings of the RAB forum and civil discourse.

For example:  whozat and I above poked fun at/questioned Joe Story’s comment about Roger Clemens balls not because it was off color or inappropriate, but because it was utterly off topic and a subject we’ve already discussed (and riffed on) on here, and it was utterly disconnected to the topic at hand.  It’s just not germane AND it&#039;s been covered.  I understand that Joe Story may have missed that discussion... tough shit.  

Now, if Joe Story was bringing up the reference in a joking manner, that’s probably going to be appreciated and not derided &lt;i&gt;if he connects it somehow tangentally to the topic at hand&lt;/i&gt;, i.e. the Yankee Payroll, by cleverly making light of the situation, something like “Well, here’s one way to keep the costs down: we won’t have to pay anymore trainers to rub liniment on Roger’s balls anymore!” or something like that.  Had he put a little effort into being witty, it would have been appreciated, I’m sure.  He didn’t; he just blurted a non-comedic non sequitur into the middle of a different conversation.  It’s like being at a party with friends talking about something interesting and someone you don’t know comes up and blurts out some unrelated off-the-wall shit that doesn’t make sense (and isn&#039;t funny).  You’d look at it with puzzlement (and likely mock it in some fashion, either internally or externally.)

But most of these pilings on of which you speak are in reaction to belligerent or meanspirited words, not just quasi-jokey non-sequiturs, if you ask me.  If we poke fun at one another, we generally take it in stride as it’s not done with malice or superiority.  Some commenters don’t have that ability to laugh at themselves and so they take good-natured ribbing to heart and lash out, and that causes people who enjoy the civil yet aspirationally highbrow dialogue here to act in protection.  Most of us came here from other, inferior blogs and don’t want to see RAB descend into LoHuddian sniping and unintelligible gibberish.

That, and we want people to use the damn “Reply to this comment link”.  I mean, dude, it’s right there.

Oh, and one more thing: If a poster exhibits any of the classic telltale signs of poor communication skills (like, for example, multiple exclamation points!!!!!!!, or CAPITAL LETTERS, or no punctuation/capitalization at all, or frequent and repeated misspelled words, or glaring inaccuracies (like saying that Clemens’ testicle-rubbing trainer was named “Moynahan” and not “Donahue”), then yeah, he is opening himself up to snide criticism.  That’s the rules of the game, bro.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s my response:</p>
<p>A lot of the time on here where several of the board regulars “come to the defense of” or “pile on” to a singular individual not in that group of board regulars, it’s not because they’re merely saying something we disagree with, it’s because they’re either taking their disagreements with people personally (or rudely) or they’re behaving in the annoying mannerisms of a newbie who doesn’t take the time to understand the workings of the RAB forum and civil discourse.</p>
<p>For example:  whozat and I above poked fun at/questioned Joe Story’s comment about Roger Clemens balls not because it was off color or inappropriate, but because it was utterly off topic and a subject we’ve already discussed (and riffed on) on here, and it was utterly disconnected to the topic at hand.  It’s just not germane AND it&#8217;s been covered.  I understand that Joe Story may have missed that discussion&#8230; tough shit.  </p>
<p>Now, if Joe Story was bringing up the reference in a joking manner, that’s probably going to be appreciated and not derided <i>if he connects it somehow tangentally to the topic at hand</i>, i.e. the Yankee Payroll, by cleverly making light of the situation, something like “Well, here’s one way to keep the costs down: we won’t have to pay anymore trainers to rub liniment on Roger’s balls anymore!” or something like that.  Had he put a little effort into being witty, it would have been appreciated, I’m sure.  He didn’t; he just blurted a non-comedic non sequitur into the middle of a different conversation.  It’s like being at a party with friends talking about something interesting and someone you don’t know comes up and blurts out some unrelated off-the-wall shit that doesn’t make sense (and isn&#8217;t funny).  You’d look at it with puzzlement (and likely mock it in some fashion, either internally or externally.)</p>
<p>But most of these pilings on of which you speak are in reaction to belligerent or meanspirited words, not just quasi-jokey non-sequiturs, if you ask me.  If we poke fun at one another, we generally take it in stride as it’s not done with malice or superiority.  Some commenters don’t have that ability to laugh at themselves and so they take good-natured ribbing to heart and lash out, and that causes people who enjoy the civil yet aspirationally highbrow dialogue here to act in protection.  Most of us came here from other, inferior blogs and don’t want to see RAB descend into LoHuddian sniping and unintelligible gibberish.</p>
<p>That, and we want people to use the damn “Reply to this comment link”.  I mean, dude, it’s right there.</p>
<p>Oh, and one more thing: If a poster exhibits any of the classic telltale signs of poor communication skills (like, for example, multiple exclamation points!!!!!!!, or CAPITAL LETTERS, or no punctuation/capitalization at all, or frequent and repeated misspelled words, or glaring inaccuracies (like saying that Clemens’ testicle-rubbing trainer was named “Moynahan” and not “Donahue”), then yeah, he is opening himself up to snide criticism.  That’s the rules of the game, bro.)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/02/cashman-weve-won-the-winter-7650/#comment-274914</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://riveraveblues.com/?p=7650#comment-274914</guid>
		<description>Giese and Aceves are our best bets for long men, yes.  We likely don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;need &lt;/i&gt;both, though, just one.  Miranda is a good lefty bat, yes, but with severe platoon splits and no defensive value.  He&#039;s not worthless, but he&#039;s also not super necessary.

I&#039;m not saying I want to get rid of these guys.  I&#039;m just saying they&#039;re the most expendable guys on our 40 man, and if we had to get rid of some people to free up space for upgrades, those would be the players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giese and Aceves are our best bets for long men, yes.  We likely don&#8217;t <i>need </i>both, though, just one.  Miranda is a good lefty bat, yes, but with severe platoon splits and no defensive value.  He&#8217;s not worthless, but he&#8217;s also not super necessary.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying I want to get rid of these guys.  I&#8217;m just saying they&#8217;re the most expendable guys on our 40 man, and if we had to get rid of some people to free up space for upgrades, those would be the players.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/02/cashman-weve-won-the-winter-7650/#comment-274879</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://riveraveblues.com/?p=7650#comment-274879</guid>
		<description>nah. I was pro-bunt. 

If they were going to leave the left side of the field empty, why not put a few over there when we needed a baserunner. Some of the more ridiculous shifts would&#039;ve allowed him to WALK to first if he laid down a good bunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nah. I was pro-bunt. </p>
<p>If they were going to leave the left side of the field empty, why not put a few over there when we needed a baserunner. Some of the more ridiculous shifts would&#8217;ve allowed him to WALK to first if he laid down a good bunt.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/02/cashman-weve-won-the-winter-7650/#comment-274874</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://riveraveblues.com/?p=7650#comment-274874</guid>
		<description>Me too, actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too, actually.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Old Ranger</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/02/cashman-weve-won-the-winter-7650/#comment-274866</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Ranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://riveraveblues.com/?p=7650#comment-274866</guid>
		<description>Why is it ok for others to make senseless innuendos and derogatory remarks? Someone quotes something he may feel is funny, and you (and others) slap them down.
Could it be; &quot;They are not of your Group&quot;?
There are a lot of people that would like to make comments (some do, once) but, get shot down for any reason &quot;The Group&quot; feels fit to choose.
Nobody wants to be made to feel like a fool but some of you guys do a damm good job of criticizing others. But, god help anyone that may criticize one of you guys...one can count on all of you coming his defence.
I must admit, a lot of the stuff written is very funny and appropo but, enough is enough. Not all of us are as witty or smart as you guys think you are, anyone can quote stats to make themselves look smart. The big question is, can they read stats and apply them to the person and situation? A lot of that stuff is open to conjecture and interpretation, none of us are right, all the time. We may disagree on the interpretation but, it is mine (or yours) and we can always agree to disagree without slapping one down...can&#039;t we?
Damm, I have been wanting to write that for a long time. Can&#039;t wait to read the comments, or the silence of the comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it ok for others to make senseless innuendos and derogatory remarks? Someone quotes something he may feel is funny, and you (and others) slap them down.<br />
Could it be; &#8220;They are not of your Group&#8221;?<br />
There are a lot of people that would like to make comments (some do, once) but, get shot down for any reason &#8220;The Group&#8221; feels fit to choose.<br />
Nobody wants to be made to feel like a fool but some of you guys do a damm good job of criticizing others. But, god help anyone that may criticize one of you guys&#8230;one can count on all of you coming his defence.<br />
I must admit, a lot of the stuff written is very funny and appropo but, enough is enough. Not all of us are as witty or smart as you guys think you are, anyone can quote stats to make themselves look smart. The big question is, can they read stats and apply them to the person and situation? A lot of that stuff is open to conjecture and interpretation, none of us are right, all the time. We may disagree on the interpretation but, it is mine (or yours) and we can always agree to disagree without slapping one down&#8230;can&#8217;t we?<br />
Damm, I have been wanting to write that for a long time. Can&#8217;t wait to read the comments, or the silence of the comments</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Stryker</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/02/cashman-weve-won-the-winter-7650/#comment-274815</link>
		<dc:creator>Stryker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://riveraveblues.com/?p=7650#comment-274815</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;i won&#039;t be surprised if he&#039;s the ace of the staff in the first half.&lt;/i&gt;


i sure would!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>i won&#8217;t be surprised if he&#8217;s the ace of the staff in the first half.</i></p>
<p>i sure would!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: whozat</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/02/cashman-weve-won-the-winter-7650/#comment-274782</link>
		<dc:creator>whozat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://riveraveblues.com/?p=7650#comment-274782</guid>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Why not ? We still got 9 more days to go…. instead of all the paralysis by analysis stuff.&lt;/b&gt;

yes.  Let&#039;s eschew analysis for talking about Roger Clemens&#039; balls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Why not ? We still got 9 more days to go…. instead of all the paralysis by analysis stuff.</b></p>
<p>yes.  Let&#8217;s eschew analysis for talking about Roger Clemens&#8217; balls.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Old Ranger</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/02/cashman-weve-won-the-winter-7650/#comment-274729</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Ranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://riveraveblues.com/?p=7650#comment-274729</guid>
		<description>Stellar!
But, before anyone jumps on you, please use the &quot;reply to this comment&quot;, bottom right of the comments. It takes time to get use to it. But I, for one, like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stellar!<br />
But, before anyone jumps on you, please use the &#8220;reply to this comment&#8221;, bottom right of the comments. It takes time to get use to it. But I, for one, like it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Page Caching using memcached
Database Caching using memcached
Object Caching 393/397 objects using memcached

Served from: riveraveblues.com @ 2012-05-27 22:07:50 -->
