Open Thread: A loss to the Twins and Friday randomness

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The Yanks dropped a close one to the Twins today after the bullpen couldn’t hold a slim lead. Ian Kennedy gave up a hit and a walk (no runs) while striking out three in two innings of work, and Andrew Brackman made his spring debut in the losing effort.

Brackman was part of the bullpen that couldn’t hold the game. He gave up a home run to Jason Kubel in one inning of work. George Kontos and Wilson De La Rosa gave up the other three runs as the Twins eked out a 5-4 win. The Yanks loaded the bases in the 9th but couldn’t push across the tying run.

Offensively, Brett Gardner went 2-for-2 with a double, two stolen bases and a run scored. Melky Cabrera went 0-for-3 and is hitless in five spring ABs. Gardner has a stranglehold on the center field job or as much of a stranglehold as you can have on a job three games into the exhibition season. Jorge Posada, DHing again, went 2-for-3, but then again we weren’t really concerned about his bat coming back from shoulder surgery. Nick Swisher picked up a pair of hits too.

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Here’s your open thread for the night. The only local team in action is the Knicks, who are hosting the Sixers. You know the deal, anything goes, just be nice.

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  • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

    Fun time killer. I got 77 earlier today:

    http://www.sporcle.com/games/mlbhalloffamers.php

    • Thomas

      I got 77, too. I was typing in Fergie Jenkins as time expired. The killers for me were Eckersley (who I didn’t notice I got and kept trying to put in), Yaz (because I couldn’t spell his name), Bench (who’s name I blanked on), and some of the Negro Leaguers (who names I blanked on).

    • http://and-that-happened.blogspot.com Evan

      I got 111 the first time. There were a few whose names I had in mind but just couldn’t pull them out.

  • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

    16 strikeouts in 6.2 innings for Strasburg? Oh my Mo.

  • Chris

    How is a chubby Andruw Jones still a good defensive center fielder?

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      Well, he managed to post a 5.3 UZR/150 last year despite having multiple small moons orbiting around him.

  • whozat

    we weren’t really concerned about his bat coming back from shoulder surgery.

    I’m not so sure about that. His shoulder injury sapped all his power last season. Seeing that his repaired shoulder is allowing him to put a charge in the ball is encouraging.

    Seeing him make throws behind the plate will be MORE encouraging, and seeing him catch 20 games a month will be the most encouraging, of course :-)

    But this was still something that was a cause for concern, I think.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Joba Chamberlain got injured in just his second inning of work during my first game of The Show. Phil Hughes came in and did a great job at first, but he allowed 3 runs in the 4th inning. He did, however, make Dustin Pedroia look silly as all hell on a nice, 3-2 yakker.

    I’m still down 3-0 in the seventh. This game is epic.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I just got my copy. I’m 3 minutes into the HDD cache-ing …

      • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

        From that store or SCEA?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          The store. Wow, the New Stadium looks amazing.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

        Holy shit, Albie has his own delivery.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          Heh, Ohlendorf too.

        • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

          I’m enjoying owning the shit out of these Red Sox hitters with Mo.

          • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

            Bah, Josh Beckett just threw a perfect-o against me (Legend Mode).

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

              Yikes.

              • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

                It’s cool, I wasn’t seriously playing, just more in awe of the game. I think he only thew like 70+ pitches, I really didn’t focus on it.

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

                  Oh man, it has minor league options and service time too. And the contract length is realistic, salary not so much.

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      Bases juiced, two out, and already trailing 3-0, Mariano Rivera comes in from the bullpen and retires Josh Bard on a one-pitch come-backer to the mound.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      I have to wait til Tuesday for the PS2 version and I’m losing it, haha. ’08 is KILLING me–I’m so bored of it.

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      I absolutely love the option to turn off the announcers and PA’s voices during the game and just have music playing.

    • jim p

      What is this “The Show”? Can anybody help me understand?

      Last time I played a computer baseball game it was Strat-o-matic. Though it had it’s faults, it was eerie the way it played like a real game would. Is The Show based on real stats? Or is it just a visual game?

      Strat stopped making a Mac version, so I was locked out. But I love real strategy.

      Anyone’s opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

        It’s just a regular video game.

      • Joey

        PS3, very realistic gameplay (at least that what my parents and their friends tell me as I play, that “everything looks so real”)

        • jim p

          Matt & Joey

          Thanks guys.

  • http://pabaseball.blogspot.com GM-Carson

    I actually forgot about Andruw Jones when I made the team, as he’d have likely taken Corey Patterson’s spot…although both kind of suck.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    So I am the only RAB’er that’s not also a gamer?

    • whozat

      Well…define “gamer”

      There’s the kids who play WoW and games like that, and then there’s kids who just happen to play video games.

      Then there’s my mom. When I went back to NY for Christmas, I woke up the morning after coming in at 1AM, and she says “so…wanna play Wii bowling?” She’s 58 years old, but she plays more video games now than I do.

      What is a “gamer” these days?

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        Heh, well, I don’t even own a game system…

        • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

          Who the hell needs a game system when you own a Skein dubh?

          • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

            You know, you’re way right.

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      You have company.

      • steve (different one)

        yeah, me too.

        • Sweet Dick Willie

          Me three.

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I own a PS2 that I’ve probably turned on 4 times total since the Democrats took back control of the House of Representatives.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Awesome, you also have your entire organization available for play during ST games in The Show.

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      Bah, forgot to hit the “Reply” tab.

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

        Banned.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      I’m trying to record a chant, but the piece of shit isn’t detecting my Rock Band mic.

      • Drew

        lol my chant will be quite derogatory

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Lemme guess, the chant you’re trying to record is this:

        BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
        WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP!!!!

  • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

    Nice article by Chris H today about IPK falling in love with his fastball last year.

    http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=1176

    I hadn’t noticed that, but the numbers he cites are pretty striking. Though I did notice his curve was largely non existent last year. IPK can’t do a lot of any one thing and be successful. He’s the type of pitcher who needs to do ‘a little of this, and a little of that’. He should be an uncomfortable AB for a hitter because they never know what’s coming, that’s his game. But if he gets predictable in any way, he’s dead.

    I also thought he spent too many pitches trying to get guys to chase out of the zone, rather than staying aggressive and letting them hit the ball. A little bat shy. If he’s mixing up his pitches well they shouldn’t get good wood on it. But if he falls behind the count and has to come in with a 90 MPH fastball, then again he’s dead.

    • jim p

      weird especially for a guy who claimed to model himself after Mike Mussina. Even pre-’08 Mike never relied on just fastball, fastball, fastball.

      • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        Actually, he grew up idolizing Greg Maddux.

        The Mussina stuff was generated by the Yanks to give their fans a comp they could relate to, since he’s not a hard thrower. They said the same thing about Matt DeSalvo.

        But I’ve never thought he reminded me of Moose in any way. I can see the Maddux influence, but mostly he reminds me of a right handed Jimmy Key. Similar delivery, similar demeanor, 90-ish fastball, slider, best pitch is the changeup. Commands all of them well.

  • Reggie C.

    Looks like G-men are going to sign Michael Bolley according to Rotoworld (citing the ‘News). Never heard of this guy but it reads like he’s an upgrade and a player on the rise. Now if we can only get TJ Housz …..

    but Reese isn’t breaking the bank. Hmm….

    • steve (different one)

      i think Bolley is friends with A-Rod. or maybe his cousin.

      • Reggie C.

        and that took all of 3 minutes … Good thing A-rod doesn’t read the newspapers.

    • Nady Nation

      I think it’s pronounced “Bole” or “Boli”. Seriously though, I like Boley a lot. He’s a speedy LB so he should thrive in an aggressive defense like the ones the G-Men run. Now if we can sign Canty away from the Cowboys and stick him at DT, then we got something. Where’s Mike Pop with the Canty scouting report?

      • Reggie C.

        No doubt. MIKE POP!! WHERE ARE YOU!!

        Does Canty play the D-line or is he just a DE? We’re kind of overloaded on good to great DEs already.

        • Nady Nation

          He played DE b/c the Cowboys run a 3-4, but he’s a run stuffer (even though he had 10 sacks last year), and he’s 6’7 305. So the Giants look at him as a DT, especially with Robbins in the last year of his contract. I’m salivating at the thought of a 3rd and long front 4 featuring Kiwanuka, Tuck, Osi, and Canty.

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Yeah, Canty is a quality run-stuffer who’d be perfectly fine moving inside in a 4-3. He’d be a good signing.

            The Giants need to do something, though. Especially in the wake of the Redskins getting MUCH, MUCH better with Haynesworth. That narrows the gap considerably.

            It could get worse before it gets better, though… Eagles will likely add Harrison, maybe Houshmandzadeh, and who knows what the wacky Cowboys will do (Julius Peppers?)

            • Mike Pop

              and who knows what the wacky Cowboys will do (Julius Peppers?)

              Ray Lewis.

              • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                With Scott out, and Jason Brown possibly out as well, the Ravens have more than enough money to bring back RayRay, and they really can’t afford not to from a PR standpoint.

                Don’t hold your breath.

                • Mike Pop

                  Still more likely they get Ray Lewis than Peppers. The Cowboys don’t have the picks that other teams have to trade for Peppers. I would absolutely love Peppers but he’s more unlikely than Lewis. I know Ravens have to keep Lewis from a PR standpoint but anything can happen.

          • Mike Pop

            Canty is looking for a 50 million dollar deal, I know that doesn’t mean much in football but he’s not that good.

            • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Yeah, that’s a bit much. Canty’s probably not worth more than 7-8M AAV, but Haynesworth’s pushing everyone’s price up.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Seriously though, I like Boley a lot. He’s a speedy LB so he should thrive in an aggressive defense like the ones the G-Men run.

        Boley is a solid rotation guy. Nothing more.

        He doesn’t do anything Gerris Wilkinson doesn’t do. Hate to be a wet blanket, but a Giants fan getting excited over Michael Boley is like me getting excited over Corey Ivy. There’s nothing wrong with the move, but you’re not really solving any problems or anything here.

  • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

    “The context was a discussion about Brett Gardner. Because of drug testing, Girardi said, a player like Gardner will become more valuable.

    “Just to be flat-out straightforward, you’re probably going to see some more speed in the game,” the manager said. “You’re not going to have as many home runs. You’re going to have to find ways to create runs.”

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2009/02/27/gardner-benefits-as-game-changes/

    Wow, does Girardi love Gardner or what?

    • Reggie C.

      Its a good thing Melky isn’t on that Dominican WBC team. Not sure if he wasn’t invited or declined … probably the former was true. Melky had better impress ’cause Gardner is undoubtedly in the lead. Keep legging ’em out Gardner!

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      I’m not sure if it’s that he loves Gardner or hates Melky.

      Whatever works, I guess.

      • Reggie C.

        If Gardner starts bunting his way on in this next game, Girardi will hold a press conference and declare Gardner the winner. Nah… seriously, Melky going 0-5 shouldn’t be disappointing Girardi. What else did he expect?

        • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

          If I knew, I’d tell yah.

      • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        Girardi smirks when he watches Melky.

        That’s either ironic or spiteful on his part. Probably a lil of both.

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      Here’s some more, this time from Posada

      “Gardner had an interesting first inning. He showed bunt, which drew the infield in a step or two. Then he slapped a ball up the middle. Minnesota second baseman Alexi Casilia knocked the ball down but had no play.

      Gardner then stole second and scored on a single. The threat of speed and then actual speed helped the Yankees score a run.

      I asked Jorge Posada how much a player like Gardner irritates a catcher. “Oh, we hate it,” he said. “It changes everything about the defense.””

      This illustrates why a player like Gardner is going to mean more than his daily stat line will often indicate. Much of what happened there was a result of his speed and doesn’t happen with anyone else on the team. Things like that can often decide close/low scoring games. There are really only 2 stats I really care about for a player like him, OBP and Runs Scored.

      It’s been a long time since we’ve had a player like him, so hopefully fans will grow to appreciate what he brings over time.

      • whozat

        “Much of what happened there was a result of his speed and doesn’t happen with anyone else on the team.”

        And if he hadn’t been getting on base, it would all have been useless. No amount of irritating the catcher or “distracting the pitcher” will matter if Gardner is getting on base less than 33% of the time. He’s not really a good contact guy, which means he’s got some holes in his swing. So, it’ll be interesting to see how he’s doing once the book gets around on him.

        • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

          I know his contact rates aren’t great, but he did manage a .296/.414/.422 line in AAA last year. I suspect that he gets on base a lot on busted, ugly plays like what happened here. But hey, it counts.

          Shit, he can make it to First Base if the catcher drops strike three and has to turn around to pick it up.

          • whozat

            “I suspect that he gets on base a lot on busted, ugly plays”

            Actually, he gets on base a lot by walking. And he also strikes out a lot. That tells me that he’s standing at the plate and taking a lot of pitches. That’s a good thing, in general. But when you’ve got lots of walks + lots of K’s – any appreciable power…it makes me wonder if all he’s really doing is waiting out minor league pitchers with shitty control.

            Also, there ARE tools that allow us to project major-league equivalencies. They project him as a .250/.351/.347 hitter. Which, honestly, if he gets 400ABs at that rate and steals 30 bases at a 75% success rate, is totally worthwhile.

            I just think people need to calm down a little bit, because they’re making this kid out to be something he’s not.

            • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

              “I just think people need to calm down a little bit, because they’re making this kid out to be something he’s not.”

              Really? You know what he is as a major leaguer? That’s interesting, since nobody else does at this point.

              What I do know is that the manager loves the guy and he’s very likely going to be our CF this year. If he gets on base 1/3 of the time, scores 80-90 runs and hits .260 and plays a great CF, I’ll be thrilled.

              • steve (different one)

                i don’t think that’s the way he meant it.

                your expectations: “If he gets on base 1/3 of the time, scores 80-90 runs and hits .260 and plays a great CF,” are perfectly reasonable. and i think he can do that.

                but i agree with whozat that a lot of people are expecting a lot more than that.

                there have been many posts on here suggesting that Gardner is going to OBP in the .370 range based on his minor league numbers, and i think a lot of people are going to be disappointed if that’s what they expect.

                but if he can OBP .340, steal a shitload of bases, and play the hell out of CF, the Yankees can win with that.

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Agreed. Some people think Gardner can OBP .370 and be a star. That’s a little foolish. Others think Gardner won’t be able to OBP north of .310 and that he’s worthless. That’s also probably unfair.

                  But many of us think Gardner can OBP somewhere in the .330-.340 range, and that would make him a very, very useful ballplayer… but frustratingly, some people aren’t even happy with that.

                  It surprised me the other day when somebody was talking about AJax and said that a good comp for him was Mike Cameron, or that Gardner was comped to Dave Roberts, and the board consensus seemed to be that that meant they were busts.

                  Dave Roberts and Mike Cameron are both very, very good and useful ballplayers who can easily be fringe-to-legitimate starters who add value and contribute to wins. Particularly if they’re being paid league minimum and under team control for the next six years.

                  If Gardner can OBP .340, that’s like found money. We should be very pleased with that. That’s a great and useful ballplayer.

    • Thomas

      Because no speed guys have ever used steroid. cough Alex Sanchez cough

      • anonymous

        Gardner looks like a user.

        • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

          didn’t know users had a ‘look’

        • Thomas

          He probably injects with Edwar.

          • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

            Are you saying they should move to Massachusetts to get married or would you like to rephrase that?

            • Thomas

              He and Edwar probably inject steroids together, helping each other.

              BTW, get your mind out of the gutter.

      • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

        Heh, I remember that guy. He had one good year in Detroit, right?

  • Cor Shep

    who’s faster – Gardner or Christian who was DFA’d?

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      Gardner, but Christian has better ‘instincts’

      • Thomas

        Did his instincts tell him to fall down when running?

        • anonymous

          Speaking of instincts why isnt Ricky at spring training tutoring Gardner?

      • Cor Shep

        So why was Christian DFA’d – if Gardner’s best quality is his speed – why couldn’t Christian be another candidate for CF. He played a good CF last year – and hit better than Melky and Brett. Seems weird.

        • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

          because Gardner’s a kid and Christian’s not.

          • steve (different one)

            He played a good CF last year – and hit better than Melky and Brett.

            he did not hit better than Melky.

            also, he is 29 this year. he’s fodder. every single organization has a Justin Christian hanging around somewhere.

            they needed a roster spot.

            • Cor Shep

              what difference does it make? Brett won’t be the CF for the next ten years – all we need is a 1-1.5 stopgap for Austin. So what’s the difference between Brett and Justin. Both won’t hit a lot but will kill with speed.

              And Christian beat Melky by like 30 OBP points last year.

              • steve (different one)

                So what’s the difference between Brett and Justin.

                so why did you ask? if there is no difference, why not go with the younger player with the better track record in the minors?

                And Christian beat Melky by like 30 OBP points last year.

                Christian: .250/.302/.325
                Melky: .249/.301/.341

                not sure what you are complaining about.

                Christian is a replacement level player.

                • Cor Shep

                  i was just about to correct myself.. yea they had the same obp. i was just wondering why the DFA’s him cuz 3 options are better than 2. what if they both start off horribly.. Cameron?? Im not saying I want him to be our CF – just saying he’s pretty much the same as melky and brett

                • steve (different one)

                  but he’s not. that’s what you are missing.

                  if you have 2 players with the same minor league numbers, and one is 22 and other is 26, they are not “the same”

          • Cor Shep

            so? Aceves isn’t a kid.. yet he’s one of the first that’s gonna get called on. I just look at both of their minor league stats – and their pretty much the same. Christian has a little more power – and brett walks a little more. They’re pretty identical besides the 4 year age difference.

            • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

              Aceves was in the Mexican league, so he’s never played in the bigs. Its still undetermined what he is/isn’t as a big league prospect.

              Justin Christian is a career minor leaguer/fringe major leaguer. There’s nothing left to discover about him.

            • steve (different one)

              what on earth does Aceves have to do with Gardner?

              you aren’t making any sense.

              They’re pretty identical besides the 4 year age difference.

              aside from that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?

              don’t you understand that Christian’s numbers are much less impressive when you consider his age at each level in the minors? he did “ok” in AA at 26/27…you can’t compare that to what Gardner did at 22/23.

              • Cor Shep

                hah okay relax guys i was just asking a question calm down.. i get it.

                • steve (different one)

                  it’s all good, i was just confused how someone could care so much about Justin Christian…

                • Mike Pop

                  Justin Christian and his silly antics, how can you not miss a guy like that? A guy who falls on his way to 2nd and all.

            • whozat

              Well, OBP is more valuable than SLG in general, and in the case of a speedy player, it’s even MORE so.

              Also…a 25 year old might improve. A 29 year old…not so much.

              Also…they needed a 40-man roster spot, so someone had to go.

              As for Aceves, a) there’s a big difference between 26 and 29, and b) he’s a pitcher who will likely contribute in the bigs at some point this season. Christian was waaaaaay down the OFer depth charts.

              • Cor Shep

                yea I got it. I know I was just thinking Christian would be #3 on the depth chart and the more options is better – I was hoping he’d return to AAA but no.

                I love Brett and I really hope he can hit 260-270 with 330-340 obp.. that’d be awesome. Players like him and Swisher are what fuels a team when the team goes on a 3 game slide, ya know? We have a great mix of players this season.. and a first baseman that was field!!!

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  FWIW, I want to make sure you know that the whole “Justin Christian has better instincts” quip that was the original reply to your question on Gardner v. Christian was probably tongue-in-cheek.

                  Gardner’s faster AND has better instincts than Christian. In case anyone’s sarcasm meter was on the fritz there. He’s just not a good player.

                  Brett >> Melky >>>>>>>> J-Chrizzle

  • Drew

    Dwyane wade time

  • matt

    gotta say it. Its Wilkin De La Rosa not Wilson.

    • Steve H

      That was just a test to make sure people are reading what they write, not just skipping to the comments. As the winner, you get to drink from the firehose!

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      Wilkins De La Rosa, actually. ;)

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Great day for the Jets.

    Bart Scott is a beast, Corey Ivy is a mildly decent nickel (definitely better than Drew Coleman), and they both know Ryan’s system.

    Plus, the day after we cut Brandon Moore (to free up cap space), when our Plan A fails and Chris Kemoeatu goes back to PIT, Moore agrees to come back for less money, so we keep the player who knows our system (and is probably better than Kemoeatu anyway) AND save money in the process.

    Oh, and Jim Leonard is coming in tomorrow, and we may be trading for Lito Sheppard to plug that revolving door at CB#2.

    I’m happy.

    • Mike Pop

      Think you overpaid for Sheppard?

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3941269

        Although details of the deal were not available, the Eagles are believed to be receiving a middle-round choice in the 2010 draft and conditional 2011 draft choice. The level of the 2011 choice will be determined by a number of factors including Sheppard’s 2009 playing time.

        Nope. Sheppard’s price was a 1st rounder last year. Sounds like it’s probably a 3rd or a 4th and maybe a 4th next year that could escalate up to, maybe, a 2nd based on how well he plays.

        Sheppard isn’t a ProBowler, but he’s damn good and he’ll only have to cover the other team’s #2, since we have Baby Lockdown on the other side. Great trade.

        BTW, we have an extra 4th rounder this year. So, with 5 picks in the first 125, we can afford to give one up.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Damn, nevermind:

          http://www.thejetsblog.com/2009/02/27/update-on-sheppard/

          New York and Philadelphia are completing a trade that will send cornerback Lito Sheppard to the Jets while the Eagles will receive a 2009 fifth-round pick and a 2010 conditional draft pick.
          The pick could be as high as a second-round choice in 2010 and as a low as a fourth. But the eagles will get two picks and the Jets get Sheppard, who will be in New York Saturday for a physical.

          A fifth this year and a second-fourth next year? That’s a steal. Absolute steal.

          • Mike Pop

            Except when you can get a Terrence McGee in the 4th round or an Orlando Scandrick in the 5th round.

  • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

    First fantasy draft, 14 team league, 4th pick:

    C: Jorge Posada
    1B: Albert Pujols
    2B: Chase Utley
    3B: Adrian Beltre
    SS: Mike Aviles
    OF: Manny
    OF: Magglio
    OF: Milton Bradley
    UTIL: Adam Jones
    UTIL: The Giambino
    BN: Taylor Teagarden
    BN: Felipe Lopez (2B, 3B, SS, and OF. love it)
    BN: Lyle Overbay

    SP: Dan Haren
    SP: Liriano
    SP: Jurrjens
    SP: Max Scherzer
    SP: Ubaldo Jimenez
    SP: Gil Meche
    RP: Soira
    RP: Capps
    RP: Putz

    Meh.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      I also have Garret Anderson on my bench.

    • Steve H

      Pujols and Utley? How the hell did that happen?

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

        Because people were stupid. The first three picks of the draft were Hanley, Jose Reyes, and Mark Teixeira. A-Rod also lasted til 6th or 7th I believe. Stupid people.