Open Thread: A conversation with CC

Yanks in on Mexican bidding war
Jennings on the Yanks' infielders

It’s almost twelve minutes long, but it’s worth watching. Lots of interesting stuff. (h/t McCaff and Manimal)

Here’s your open thread for the night. The only local teams in action are the Devils and Islanders, but talk about whatever you want here. Just be cool.

Yanks in on Mexican bidding war
Jennings on the Yanks' infielders
  • steve

    people knock cashmoney for bringing in all these high priced free agent veteran pitchers … but CC seems like the first guy since moose who seems like a nice fun guy to be around in the clubhouse and for the fans to love … i’m very excited for all of this.

    • Rich

      When you have the revenues that the Yankees do, and a glaring need for an ace, if you don’t try to sign CC, it’s General Managerial malpractice.

      • RollingWave

        aka the Knicks

  • Mike Pop

    CC Sabathia does not want to be a Yankee.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      Mike Pop does not want to be a Yankee.

      • Mike Pop

        CC’s the man. “I don’t plan on losing!, bitch”

  • http://www.myspace.com/sloanbruno69 Bruno

    Andy Marte was DFA’d by Cleveland, is he worth looking at for a util spot?

    • Mike Pop

      Would he require a 40 man spot?

      • Jack

        Not if he took a MiL deal.

        • Jack

          Nevermind, ignore my dumbassery.

          • Mike Pop

            Enough of this douchebaggery!

            • kSturnz

              I’m not one to speak as I suffer from Cumdepositeritis

              • kSturnz

                Marte to be the new (bete)MEAT?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      He’s never been outrighted before, so he can’t refuse the minor league assignment. The Yanks would have to claim him off waivers (which would mean putting him on the 40 man), or make a trade once he’s in the minors.

      Pass. He’s terrible.

      • steve (different one)

        actually, they would have to put him on the 25 man roster, i think.

    • A.D.

      Mike’s prospect crush

    • http://www.freewebs.com/ps3tf2/ Double-J

      Ugh, I remember watching Marte a couple of years back when he played here in Buffalo for the Bisons (Indians AAA affliate). He never seemed like anything special that he was touted to be, tended to be a “lazy” player (at least from the games I saw with him). Didn’t seem overly enthusiastic or put in a lot of effort on the field, although he was okayish with the bat.

  • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

    My apologies if this was discussed already, I was a little busy today… But I wonder if someone showed this TBL post to Roy Oswalt:

    http://thebiglead.com/?p=11643

    • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

      New to me. That’s some good stuff, I had no idea Bagwell just exploded like that when he went to Houston.

      • kSturnz

        2001 against a non PED using Luis Gonzalez, wouldn’t that be a thing

    • Steve H

      I’ve been saying Bagwell was a juicer forever. Find a pic of him when he was young and he transformed just like Bonds, Sosa, and Ortiz.

      • Hawkins44

        I have long thought that Ortiz was on the juice… if you recall he actually said that he couldn’t say for sure that he hadn’t used steroids. I was surprised he took such a hard line stance when he arrived at spring training. He shouldn’t be throwing rocks in glass houses….

    • Mike Pop

      They all put in the hard work in the gym. Definitely had nothing to do with PED’s.

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      Pitchers have been scuffing the ball, cutting the ball, and throwing spitballs since Baseball began. Some of them admitted cheating (Mike Scott/Gaylord Perry) and were STILL elected to the Baseball HOF. The last person I want to hear complain about ‘cheating’ is a pitcher. When they know the rigors of having to play everyday, then they can talk.

  • Mike Pop

    Quick question, if it was A-Rod’s brother instead of Pedroia’s. Would we of heard about it a whole lot more?

    I don’t find it funny, I just am wondering what people think.

    • Steve H

      Yes, it would be a huge story. The Post would be extremely offensive and tasteless.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Molest-Rod!!!

        • steve (different one)

          He-Touched-My-Rod!!

          • http://www.myspace.com/sloanbruno69 Bruno

            You enjoyed this comment.

        • pat

          Most Valuable Pedophile!!!

  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200902163837788

    If anyone missed that Bruney interview, there it is.

    • Mike Pop

      When he said that he forgot HR was on the team, that was funny. He’s so right though, everytime I turn it on there goes HR talking about Joba should be in the 8th.

    • Matt M.

      HAHAHA “Next time you guys cant get anybody else…i’ll be sure to come on again”

      you have to love a bullpen guy being honest with himself. wish all the best for bruney, he really has put in a lot of work dropping weight. thats probably one of girardi’s biggest impacts.

      we’ve switched from Joe Torre’s Green Tea to Joe Girardi’s Whey Protein

      • Mike Pop

        Heh.

      • steve (different one)

        yeah, i’ll be rooting hard for Bruney this year. he seems to have really grown up last year. he was kindof a punk when he first came over.

  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    Just curious mike, when are we going to actually start that fantasy league?

  • A.D.

    ZOMG….Cash pull the contract CC doesnt want to be a Yankee!!1!!

    • Mike Pop

      He was at the GS Warriors game a few nights ago. He is already regretting signing the contract.

      • A.D.

        He planning on opting out & signing with the Giants!!

        • Mike Pop

          As a boy, he hated the Yankees.

          • Steve H

            He still does.

  • Smaxor5

    That interview was just full of BS, he looked like he really wanted to say “it was for the money” but switched it to something else last second

    • steve (different one)

      that is very observant, Smaxor.

  • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

    Alright so I’m trying to test my system for a Yahoo! Fantasy draft and it just keeps saying “Sending Test Message” and the screen isn’t changing. Does this mean my system isn’t working for the draft?

    • andrew

      probably… trying using a different internet service… sometimes the difference between safari/firefox/ie makes the difference

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  • Mike Pop
  • steve

    not sure if its been brought up but noMass’s boston salary cap picture is HILARIOUS !!!

    • 27 this year

      the Dice-K one, right? I was about to link it because it was so funny. Beat me to it

      • steve

        ha yea. b-e-a-utiful

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Raiders back up the truck for Asomugha… So much for my sick fantasies of pairing Nnamdi and Baby Lockdown.

    • A.D.

      Raiders actually making a smart move

      • andrew

        surprise, surprise

    • kSturnz

      I guess winning is not that important… even if Nnamdi tricked himself into believing they have the cornerstones to win, will they be able to lock other guys up?
      Other GMs must have funny convos about the raiders. WHo is Baby Lockdown?

      • Mike Pop

        Darelle.

  • Steve H

    Good to see Klaw bringing some sanity back to chats.


    Shannon, MO: In Neyer’s chat on tuesday he said he thought pedroia would be the best position player of the next 5 years. Is it me, or does that seem just a little ridiculous? What about David Wright, Grady Sizemore, Chase Utley, Albert Pujols, and Hanley Ramirez?

    SportsNation Keith Law: I would take any of those five guys over Pedroia for the next five years. Utley might be a push, because he’s more likely to decline than any of the others, but right now he’s a better player than Pedroia. Jose Reyes comes to mind. Those Upton fellows deserve at least a nod in their direction. And Alexei Ramirez.

    • Mike Pop

      Phew.

    • Chris

      Certainly I’d take the other 4, but I would have serious concerns about Utley. I’m not sure how serious his hip injury is, but I can’t imagine it would be good.

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Also, Panthers lock up Jordan Gross, allowing them to franchise Peppers…

    • Mike Pop

      Peppers wants out bad though.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        They’re franchising him to trade him. Asking price is a first and two thirds minimum, just like Jared Allen last year.

        • Mike Pop

          Take my Boys out.

          • Joe R

            Yeah. Im hoping we get Lewis. Should help out alot.

            • Mike Pop

              Wow, another Cboy fan around these parts? Sick.

              • Joey

                so now we have 2 people to make fun of?

                • Mike Pop

                  Burn.

              • andrew

                the Cowboys are just trying to buy championships like teh Yankees!11!!!!!11!

                • Mike Pop

                  If the salary cap gets taken out, you better watch out.

    • Steve O.

      Man, Pep let me down. I’m a huge Carolina fan as you probably can tell.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Pep probably doesn’t want to waste any more of his career playing on a team quarterbacked by Jake Delhomme.

        • Steve O.

          Come on Jake is at least an average QB, he just had a below average game. Peppers wants out of a 12-4 team because he doesn’t think he’s reached his full potential after a 14.5 sack season. I don’t know what else to say…

          And don’t talk about Jake the Snake Delhomme! Seriously though, Carolina could use a better QB, I thought they were going to win the SB.

  • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

    “TAKE THE POLL: Who do you want playing center field this season?

    * Melky Cabrera
    581-23% of all votes
    * Johnny Damon
    70-3% of all votes
    * Brett Gardner
    1519-61% of all votes
    * Nick Swisher
    145-6% of all votes
    * They need to make a trade
    186-7% of all votes

    Total Votes: 2501”

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/

    Damn, I didn’t know I had so much company.

    • Steve H

      I’d vote Gardner too. We know Damon and Swish don’t belong in CF full time. We know that Melky has regressed considerably, though I still hold out some hope. We don’t really know what Gardner can give us offensively, but he at least deserves a shot. If he fails, we go to option 2, which I’m fine with. I just don’t want to not give him a shot and wonder, where he’s the biggest unknown of the 4, he needs to get the longest look.

      • kSturnz

        Vote’ por el Luchador. Melk’s prospect star was alot brighter than Gardner’s. If you Gardner will win it and keep it, you are in for a letdown… if you are taht invested in it. Gardner has the eye and speed over Melky; two big tools, but I like the balance that Melky brings. I saw his pictures and I thought he was eduardo Nunez, dude got cut. He Wants it just as bad imo

        • andrew

          Well you’d hope they’d both want it just as bad. I think everyone around here is just a little tired of Melky’s mediocrity (at best) and would prefer Gardner’s mediocrity (+steals)

      • http://www.freewebs.com/ps3tf2/ Double-J

        I don’t see Gardner or Melky as “ideal,” so I’m pretty much on the fence, although I still have a soft spot for the Melk Man. Let them battle it out in spring training, go with the hot hand, and make a switch if you have to. Unless they go out and get somebody during the season or go all-offense OF and toss Damon in center with Matsui in left, it’s going to Gardner or Melky. I like Gardner’s intangibles, but I’m hoping Melky can get his offense turned around.

      • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        That’s my take. I still hold out some hope for Melky, but would choose Gardner. I like the defense at a key position and the element of pure speed in the lineup. Gives us a different way to score runs on days we can’t get anything going.

        Also, at age 24 Melky has been playing in the MLB since 2005 at one time or another. There’s something to be said for that, so I cant dismiss him entirely.

  • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

    “Fred (Long Island): Given that the Yankees have to give up their normal first, second, and third round picks, it would be safe to assume that their farm system will probably be rated lower next year (even though they have the first and third round do-overs)?

    SportsNation Jim Callis: Not safe to assume that. For one, the Yankees have more money to spend than anyone on the draft and they can make up for their lack of picks by taking guys who fall because of signability. Fewer teams may do that this year, because of the economy, allowing more guys to fall to the Yankees. Also, if high-ceiling guys like Andrew Brackman and Dellin Betances take big steps forward this year, as the Yankees believe they’re poised to do, the farm system will look a lot stronger. ”

    http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=25104

    Interesting point about the economy. Just like this year’s FA class, you can figure the draft class will face a similarly difficult time getting any money out of tewams that aren’t named the Yanks or Red Sox. Even the Tigers, known in the past to pay overslot, figure to pull back this year.

    Throw in the Dodgers claim that they won’t sign any Boras clients, and we may have a good draft after all.

    • A.D.

      Would be awesome to be able to pick off top signability guys

      • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        Within reason. You know the top guys will go elsewhere, but I’m hoping for some good results.

        If a few of them let it be known they will only consider the Yanks (guys who can go back to school), then you could even let them drop further to the 7th or 8th rounds, like we did with Dellin and Brett Marshall.

        • A.D.

          Obviously, but the past few years a few teams have started to hop into the signability bandwagon, and spending money like the Yanks….would be nice if they were forced to get out

          • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

            Yeah, exactly. That’s Callis’ point, and I think its a good one. Teams jumping on board the signability bandwagon is going to stop. Speculative, expensive stuff like this will be one of the first things teams will cut back on.

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      BTW-Can you imagine if Brackman AND Betances take big steps forward this year? Yikes. Hanks vision of a “pitching powerhouse” will come to fruition.

      . . . and yes, I hate the word “fruition” too, I just couldn’t come up with anything less pretentious.

      • Steve H

        Hank’s vision of a pitching powerhouse will be consummated?

        • andrew

          Hanks vision of a “pitching powerhouse” will become a reality

          • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

            Well well well. Aren’t we all a bunch of walking thesauruses.

            • andrew

              :)

            • steve (different one)

              Well well well. Aren’t we all a cluster of wayfaring lexicons

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

        It will be a fortuitous rotation.

        -Michael Kay

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      Crazy idea, but would you keep selecting Gerrit Cole with a late pick for the next few years if you’re the Yanks? Like a 45-50th rounder or something, just to take a stab at him, and tell him he hasn’t burned any bridges? Not a high pick, you can’t risk that ever again. But a late one, and offer him a good bonus of 500K or so.

      I would.

      • Mike Pop

        Yea, why not.

        • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

          I’d try to appeal to the fact that he totally screwed us over, and try to use that to my advantage. Make him feel a bit guilty, tell him we still want him, and see if he bites.

          I know Boras is his agent, and he screws 10 people over every day before he has breakfast. But I’d try it. Who knows.

          • Mike Pop

            Yea, really no risk to it.

            • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Unless it costs us a few Nik Turleys. I don’t see how us wasting a ceremonial 50th round pick increases our chances to land Cole at any point in the future.

              • Mike Pop

                Just calm down, fartface.

      • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        That’s actually not possible. Cole will not be draft-eligible until he either turns 21 or completes his junior year of college.

        • Mike Pop

          Good call, Mondesi.

  • A.D.

    Looks like Jets can now go corner with their first round pick

    • kSturnz

      Malcolm?

      • A.D.

        they wish, they’d have to seriously trade up for that (barring some debacle at the combine).

        They’re looking Vonte Davis/DJ Moore/Alphonso Smith

        • Mike Pop

          You think Hakeem Nicks makes it to the 2nd round? I know it is far away but I love that guy.

          • A.D.

            Barring a redic combine, or WR suddenly becoming in vogue for this draft, I’d guess he makes it to the 2nd round.

            But with anyone, especially skill position player such as WR, that also declare later, the combine determines a lot

          • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Nope.

            • Mike Pop

              tommie, you stay for the whole first day of the draft or the first round only?

              • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                From pick #1 to Mr. Irrelevant.

                • A.D.

                  very nice

                • Mike Pop

                  Ha, every Jet fan I see, I’m going to say tommiesmithjohncarlos. Me and my boys were walking around by the ESPN zone last year the night before when Chris Long and Brady made an appearance. We talked to Greeny, Golic, and McFadden walked by the place. We were calling his name, asking him for an autograph. We were pretty much the only ones who noticed it was him, was weird.

                  He just ran off with his boys though.

                • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Heh, last year we ran into Jake Long in the Duane Reade in Times Square the night before the draft. Dude is huge.

      • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Malcolm will be long gone. I’m hoping Vontae Davis (Vernon’s little brother) falls to 17. No other CB is worth a top 25 pick.

        • A.D.

          Vonte Davis is where its at

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I’d still go either Josh Freeman or Tyson Jackson at 17.

  • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

    Alright, just rocked out a mock draft w/12 teams; picking 10th got this:

    C: Posada
    1B: Giambi
    2B: Kinsler
    3B: Chipper
    SS: Jeter
    OF: Beltran
    OF: Either
    OF: Burrell
    Util: Nelson Cruz
    BN: Bradley
    BN:Shoppac
    BN: Travis Snider
    BN: JD Drew

    SP: Hamels
    SP: Haren
    SP: Lowe
    SP: Jurrjens
    SP: Chamberlain
    RP: Broxton
    RP: Wheeler
    P: Meche

    I like my IF and my starters are good but my relief core is meh, along w/my OF.

    • Steve H

      DL Drew? I’m not against picking Sox (especially if it’s for $$), but Drew? Hope you have plenty of DL spots.

      • Mike Pop

        I don’t pick Sox unless I use them to trade. Example, Lester this year. Dealt him in a deal where I got Hamels back.

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

        I drafted JD in the second to last round. I’m glad this was just a mock up, though. Just realizing I’d’ve had no one as insurance if my IFers went down.

        • Mike Pop

          You gotta take him there.

    • andrew

      RP is definitely “meh.” Good infield as long as you come to terms with getting 120 games from Chipper. The outfield is pretty good, especially with Bradley on the bench. Snider could be a steal also.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      Did another one, a little more balanced I think. 8 teams, picking 7th:

      C: Jorge
      1B: Miggy Cabrera
      2B: Kinsler
      3B: Zimmerman
      SS: Tulo
      OF: Beltran
      OF: Manny
      OF: Maggs
      Util: Dunn (!!)

      BN: Mike Aviles
      BN: Johnny Damon
      BN: Mike Napoli
      BN: Jorge Cantu
      BN: Justin Upton

      SP: Hamels
      SP: Haren
      SP: Billingsley
      SP: Lowe
      SP: Grienke
      RP: Soria
      RP: Wood

  • McCaff

    wow my first h/t…. im all excited and giddy… im a loser

  • Drew

    Wow look a Rihanna’s face. That punk kid should be jailed and get what he deserves.

    • Mike Pop

      I know, he’s a scumbag for doing that. You got a link to picture?

      • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi
        • http://bigbluepinstripes.blogspot.com/ LB

          Poor Rihanna. Chris Brown better sleep with one eye open.

  • Conan the Barack O’Brian

    caption?
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/089L9au2u66qT/new_york_yankees
    “We don’t even know why we’re on the 40-man for 2009 Yankees, but thanks for asking.”

    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      “New York Yankees’ Edwar Ramirez Stan Sitwell (L) and Jose Vera shares a light moment during the teams’ photo day at their MLB teams’ spring training baseball complex at George M. Steinbrenner Field in Tampa, Florida February 19, 2009.”

  • http://evilempire20.wordpress.com/ Ryan S.

    Hey guys. I know I had said in the past I wasn’t going to, but a couple friends were setting up a Yankees blog and they invited me to join in, so I took them up on the offer. The first thing I did? Give props to RAB and its peerless community. Even with a piece of Yankee blogdom to myself, I consider RAB my first home and I’ll probably be more active than ever now. Anyways, check out the site and thanks for the inspiration.

    • steve (different one)

      how dare you.

      j/k. good luck.

      • http://evilempire20.wordpress.com/ Ryan S.

        I’ll do whatever I can to pass the time at work when it gets boring.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

          Pass the time at work, you say? Hey, there’s always the Friday afternoon chat. I can guarantee things don’t get boring. If need be, I’ll answer all the questions about Tim Reddings for shits and giggles.

          • http://evilempire20.wordpress.com/ Ryan S.

            I make them when I can … unfortunately, work isn’t ALWAYS boring. I wish I could be at home sometimes when you guys do the chat so I could be in the same “state of mind” you like to get into though, Joe.

            • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              Just get laid-off and join the rest of us.

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph P.

                For the record, I do NOT look like those guys.

                • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  A solitary tear rolls down Mrs. Congressman Mondesi’s cheek as she wishes she could say the same about the Congressman.

  • JM

    Alright… CC seemed like he didn’t really want to be in NY and I think he now will definitely opt-out of his contract. Does anyone else feel that LeBron will have an impact on whether he stays or not? LeBron possibly to the Knicks (unlikely) in 2010 might get LeBron to pressure CC to stay. I’m probably the only one who feels this way…

    • pat

      You don’t think that was the face of a dude pumped to be in NY? Ur definitely in the minority dude.

      • steve (different one)

        we should definitely start worrying about it now.

      • JM

        Don’t get me wrong, i’m so happy he’s here. I just feel that NY was a last resort in case no teams other than the brewers jumped in.

  • http://thechuckknoblog.blogspot.com TheChuckKnoblog

    Swisher is the man

    everyone check out his twitter

    http://twitter.com/NickSwisher

    • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

      CC has one too! I had no idea. Thanks.

      • http://thechuckknoblog.blogspot.com TheChuckKnoblog

        No problem

        I sent a direct message to him

        hope he responds

        that would be sick!!!

  • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

    Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude. Dude. What just happened here?

    I fear change.

  • !ny

    Great interview. Imagine her instead of Gammons conducting the ARod interview…