Feb
02

Open Thread: How much does that scoop cost?

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Ever wonder how SI.com’s Jon Heyman ends up breaking so many signings? Sounds like Rich Lederer of The Baseball Analysts has a reasonable explanation (h/t The Yankee Universe). He starts off by noting Heyman’s recent breaking of the Jason Varitek signing, and then makes an observation regarding Heyman’s biography:

If you’re wondering how Heyman got wind of the news before any of the Boston beat writers or columnists, be aware that he had Mark Teixeira going to the Yankees before anyone else and, according to his biography, also “broke the story of Barry Bonds going to the Giants in 1992…Alex Rodriguez going to the Yankees in 2004, A-Rod opting out of his $252-million contract in 2007 and Manny Ramirez going to the Dodgers in 2008.”

Let’s see here. Is there a common thread among Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira, Manny Ramirez, Jason Varitek, and Barry Bonds? There’s got to be something. What could they all have in common? Oh yeah! They were all represented by Scott Boras at the time of those respective transactions. Is Heyman then a media puppet, used by Boras to hype up his clients in exchange for scoops on those clients signing? Lederer apparently thinks so.

You see, Boras throws Heyman a bone on a Tek or Tex signing but also uses him to spread rumors about the level of interest and terms in ongoing free agent negotiations to create a false sense of demand. Teams that fall for this trick wind up competing against themselves, which is exactly what Boras desires.

While Boras is no fool, Heyman is a tool for the Scott Boras Corporation. Boras knows how to game the system to get the best deals for his clients and will gladly use Heyman as long as the latter plays along or until the market realizes what is going on. As it stands now, it’s almost as if Heyman, who is no stranger to the Boras suites during the winter meetings, is on the SBC payroll.

Lederer goes on to chronicle Heyman’s work regarding Manny Ramirez, starting with his trade to Los Angeles last summer and going all the way through January 28. Given the emphasis Lederer puts on certain lines, I can completely understand why he comes to the puppet-master conclusion.

This does work out for us fans in some way. We hear about signings rather early, as we saw during the Teixeira saga. Since it’s information we crave, this works out well. However, it also creates a mass of false information in the interim, which can be bothersome. We can filter out this noise, however, and just concentrate on Heyman’s “this is a done deal” reports. In other words, I’d recommend subscribing to his blog so you can find out about things like the Mets agreeing in principle with Oliver Perez. For the rest of the material, though, you might want to familiarize yourself with the “Mark as Read” button.

This is your open thread for the evening. The local teams are off in hockey, the Knicks host L.A. in the only local pro hoops action, and new No. 1 UConn heads to No. 7 Louisville (Go Huskies, right Matt?).

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

    Boras is one sneaky bastard.

  • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

    Let’s go Huskies!

    • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

      I think they will lose today, but win it all in March.

      Anyways, how do you like Uconn? Whats your major?

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

        I like it a lot. I transferred here from Hofstra and it’s really turning into a good school. I’m an English major, and the department here is pretty solid, considering pretty widespread budget restrictions.

        Are you in college or looking?

        • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

          Looking. I’m a junior in high school. Do you know anything about the medical program there?

          • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

            Well, the Nursing Program at Storrs is very good; my cousin is in the UConn Medical School now. She loves it but it’s obviously tough.

            • Doc

              U two should be roomies

              • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

                I know, right? If I wasn’t graduating…

                • A.D.

                  you could start tanking classes to keep the dream alive

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      LOL. Didn’t see that; thanks Joe.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      Apparently Louisville has forgotten that dribbling is a part of basketball.

    • Thomas

      UConn’s been looking pretty good except for the turnovers. They also have hit their freethrows. Amazing!

      Looks like they are going to win this one.

    • Thomas

      UConn finally looks like the top 5 team. Going all the way!

  • Ivan

    Tough luck for Bynum and the Lakers. Out for 8-12 weeks with a torn MCL….without surgery.

    • Mike Pop

      Bynum getting injured again….makes ya wonder if he can hold up.

  • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

    Great find Joe, you always wonder how these things happen.

    While I don’t doubt Heyman is a sock puppet for Boras, I also get the impression he reads MLBTR like the rest of us. On weeks when he has nothing, he sounds like he’s reading off the front page sometimes.

  • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

    One reason I’ve never been a big fan of Heyman, is his reports are always so intentionally ambiguous. “An AL exec says ____” “I’m hearing a lot of ___”

    Its like he doesn’t want to name any team, because someone will simply go to them and ask them if his report is true, and then he will wind up with egg on his face. So he fudges everything, which makes him tough to take seriously.

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      Here’s a few typical Heyman lines from the Lederer piece

      “according to someone familiar with their thinking”

      “There are those suggesting”

      “some baseball people”

      I mean, really. That could mean anybody from the owner to the groundskeepers.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

    Thanks for h/t Joe.

  • Doc

    Heyman is a national beat writer. I hope he has sources like Boras. What writer wouldn’t?

    • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

      Yes, but you’re supposed to cross check your info, which isn’t difficult to do. That is, if you want to get it right. If you carry some agent’s water all winter to get a few scoops here and there, then most of your info is negotiating-driven crap. It exposes Heyman to have little to no ethics as a journalist.

      • UNION YES.

        exactly. major conflict of interest

  • Steve H

    I believe about 10% of what Heyman says, but for some reason I like him.

    • Mike Pop

      When it comes to being accurate. Heyman and Rosenthal are the guys.

  • Paulie

    Is CC starting opening day of the new stadium definite, or is there a chance someone else actually does?

    • whozat

      These things aren’t made “definite” until the day they happen :-)

      The order won’t be made even tentative until partway through spring.

      • pat

        We start the season on the road. Depending on how they handle the cubs’ series it doesn’t look like the #1 slot would line up with the home opener.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          It’s unlikely they’ll start one of their big league starters in the Cubs series. Maybe one of the back end gus, Joba or Pettitte, but it won’t be CC or CMW or someone like that.

          It might even end up being Hughes and Kennedy.

          • Mike Pop

            Hopefully its the Phranchise.

            • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Kei Igawa.

    • 27 this year

      remember Pavano in 07.

  • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

    For those who listen to WFAN and/or ESPN, Torre will be on Francesa’s show @ 4:00. But Michael Kay said in his first hour today that HE will have Torre on @ 2:00, scooping Mike and WFAN.

    For anyone who doesn’t know the background to any of this, Francesa carried Torre’s water for YEARS, fighting off caller’s (like me) attacks on his moves. He defended him at every turn, as much as humanly possible while maintaining some credibility. He went out of his way to defend Joe, who he has often said he has a good relationship with.

    Kay was one of Levine’s hatchet men with Torre. He attacked him at every turn, made the case daily for letting him go, credited his success more the Yankee brass than Joe’s managing. He derided his status as ‘Saint Joe’ as being phony and undeserved, and openly admitted to having a bad relationship with Joe.

    Why on earth would Torre do Kay’s show at all, and especially give him the FIRST live radio interview, which is the more desirable one to have?

    • UNION YES.

      Publicity at 2, publicity at 4.

      • UNION YES.

        If David Wells had his own radio show at 10 am, I wouldn’t be suprised if Torre made an appearence as part of his blitz. $ > loyalty

      • Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

        Yeah, but Mike can’t be too happy about that. If I was him, I’d feel like he stabbed me in the back. I called his show today and told his producer (Eddie) about it, he said he hadn’t heard about it and was clearly annoyed to hear it.

        • UNION YES.

          Hmm, yeah. Maybe we’re starting to see the real Torre more and more?

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

      Thinking about it now, I wonder if there is any dirt on Kay in the book.

  • The Evil Empire

    According to Tony Jackson of the Los Angeles Daily News, the Dodgers have made another offer to Manny Ramirez. This time it’s a one-year deal worth $25MM.

    • The Evil Empire

      Oh, via MLBTR

      • Mike Pop

        Maybe he takes it, then bam, Yanks sign him for 2/45 next year, lol.

        • Mike Pop

          Wow I didn’t know I put that many commas in.

          • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

            Don’t worry. Only one of them was incorrect, IMO. And even that’s arguable.

            • Mike Pop

              Manny won’t take it. He won’t go back to LA because he doesn’t want Torre to trash him in “The Dodger Years”.

              • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

                Ha, yeah.

                Seriously, though, the young guys really have to wonder if they can trust him and the older guys have to wonder if they’re gonna be the next to get thrown under the bus.

        • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          “Maybe he takes it, then bam, Yanks sign him for 2/45 next year, lol.”

          For some reason, this made me think of:

          “What? I have a wiping problem. I stick those little pieces of paper up my brown eye and BAM! No shit stains in my undies. What, you don’t believe me? Let me show you. Check this shit out. Spread my cheeks so that you can see the f@#$%ing STINKNUGGETS!!!!”

          • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

            Pull up your fucking pants sir!

    • 27 this year

      you know, why even give Manny more than one year at a price of around 15 million. He will play well because it is a one year contract and he wants a new deal and no one wants him at 20M, let alone 25M. Why overpay?

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    I liked breaking the Super Bowl porn story to half the internet last night. Woohoo!

    • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Speaking of the SuperBowl, I’d like to officially welcome the Steelers to the “6 Rings Since the NFL-AFL Merger” club that we’ve been members of for the past decade.

      They’re so cute.

      • Mike Pop

        Cowboys tie it next year.

  • http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CRsmithT1.jpg tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Somebody needs to tell Danilo “Big Cock” Gallinari to shave that neckbeard. It’s disgusting and downright Pedroidian.

    • Mike Pop

      Only if they drafted Eric Gordon.

    • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

      How dare you hate on DANILO!!!!!

      • Mike Pop

        Danilo needs to hit the weights.

  • jim

    the manny 1 yr for 25 article has a quote from Coletti “we hope he is happy”

    That is really starting to sound like a disaster for LA.

    LA seems like they are breaking under the Boras pressure. They may just end up signing Dunn.

    • Mike Pop

      I think they are playing it just right. He should be signed by now but don’t outbid yourself.

      • Steve H

        And if he’s on a 1 year deal he’s motivated and worth $25 mil.

        • Mike Pop

          48 hours. Time to swoop in. Deal Nady in 23, then you have 25 to negotiate with Manny. By negotiate, I mean say “Manny 2 years 46 million, take it now or it’s off the table.”

    • Reggie C.

      Manny may want another year, but he’s not going to get that AAS anywhere else. He should take it and help the Dodgers get to the playoffs. Or at least make Torre’s life hell…

    • A.D.

      The happy comment is that Manny at a bargain is no bargain, if they sign him for below market 2 year deal he could just throw another temper tantrum like he did in Boston.

      1 year they get the slugger fully motivated

  • Reggie C.

    Kobe just exploded at the Garden tonight!! 61 pts in 36 minutes… Wade who?

    • Mike Pop

      Dude went off.

  • Mike Pop

    Oooo Manny got a deadline.

    • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

      BOOM, roasted.

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

        If it was an iPod, it’d be a Shuffle.

        • A.D.

          i enjoyed this comment

        • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

          STANLEY! BARRACK IS PRESIDENT! YOU ARE BLACK, STANLEY!

          • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

            BARACK*, sorry spell check.

      • pat

        You crush your wife when you have sex and your heart sucks.

        • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

          Ohmmmmm.. My god, if your wearing a dress, keep your knees together, nobody wants to see that ohmmmmm

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          I couldn’t decide between a fat joke or a dumb joke. Roasted.

  • Mike Pop

    I think Manny rejects it.

    • Reggie C.

      I think Manny has to come to us and say he’ll be a Yankee if we match… I doubt Cashman picks up the phone.

      • Mike Pop

        He goes to Giants. 1 year deal with a club option. But more gauranteed money than 25.

        • Reggie C.

          If so then what a freaking waste of a hall-of-fame bat!! SF is a shit team. Manny will get more pple to the bay , but that lineup needs so much more.

          • Mike Pop

            I don’t think so. If Sandoval can hit like he can, Bengie keeps it up, and Rowand hits alright. The team can win that division. Pitching staff is incredible. Heh, Lincecum will probably win 26 games with Manny driving in runs.

  • A.D.

    Why would the Mariners trade Jeff Clement & Washburn for Delmon Young. I get duping salary, but trading one of your best prospect who can play now and you’re rebuilding

    • Mike Pop

      They need a 3b right? Why not Young for Beltre? Or something to that effect, doesn’t that make more sense.

      • A.D.

        you would think…do the Twins even need a starter?

        • Mike Pop

          Liriano
          Baker
          Blackburn
          Slowey
          Perkins

          I wouldn’t think so.

      • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

        Beltre is owed 12 million in 09, that is more than any of their players (Nathan is at 11.25 mil) and approximately 25% of their total payroll right now. Plus he is in the last year of his contract.

        • Mike Pop

          And Washburn is owed less?

          • Mike Pop

            I would man up and pay that 1.65 mill more for a guy like Beltre over Washedup. CWIDT?

            • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

              LOL, I would too, but Crede might be a more viable option and gives them a better chance of winning this year. Don’t forget, Mauer leaves next year and this could be the last year they will be in contention for a while.

              • Mike Pop

                Mauer doesn’t leave next year.

                • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

                  Sorry, two years. So they have a little leverage but if they wanted to go all in for this year, they could try to trade Delmon young, but not for washburn.

          • http://nyfaninboston.blogspot.com/ Manimal

            Yup. 10.35 mil and he is also in his last year of his contract. Bad move either way for the twins.

    • MattG

      Does this rumor make anyone want to rethink the Pettitte signing?

      I would love to see Clement backing up Posada, and I am certain the Yankees would be able to offer a pitcher the Mariners would like as much as Delmon Young, who’s stock has really fallen.

      Washburn sucks, but the plan would be to push him to the sixth starter role in mid-May anyway, to give Hughes his shot.

      I guess there’s no way now.

      • Mike Pop

        It’s a bunch of bs. Even Bill Smith wouldn’t trade a guy like Delmon for any deal that included Washburn.

        • MattG

          No, but Cashman would, if he hadn’t already signed Pettitte. Clement would be so friggin sweet.

          The difference between Washburn and Pettitte might be 3 wins, which is a lot. But still, Jeff Clement…

          • Mike Pop

            Who is our Delmon Young?

            • A.D.

              I think the idea was we can send pitching their way (which may or may not be true) instead.

            • MattG

              I guess it would have to be Kennedy. That’d be painful.

              Maybe Cabrera/McAllister. A lot would depend on what Seattle thought of those players.

              • A.D.

                Realistically IPK doesnt match up, Delmon Young still has the talent to be the top prospect and hitter in the minors he was a few years ago. IPK would be a 3rd starter.

                • MattG

                  Can’t say I agree. To me, Delmon Young is now an immature kid that can’t control the strike zone. Kennedy is an immature kid that nibbles too much. Delmon has the higher ceiling, but not controlling the strike zone is a problem that is difficult to fix and ruins careers.

                  Nibbling is more easily fixed. As of right now, Kennedy is still a fair bet to have a 10 year career. Delmon Young is at risk of complete flameout.

      • A.D.

        They still could, take Washburn, eat the contract, have him mop up, or try and flip him… I mean if they want Clement that badly. I think if they Yanks want a young catcher they’re better off trading some of the pitching for Teagarden/Salty/Montero

        • MattG

          I take it as a good sign they aren’t going after a catcher. They must like what they see from Posada’s rehab, Cervelli, and Romine. And maybe Jesus, too.

          Or maybe they are just being reckless. We will know in about 8 weeks!

          • A.D.

            Agreed, can’t say I mind they’re not looking for a catcher…even if they are interested makes sense to wait, their prices are all high right now since the Sox have been interested.

  • pat

    It’s kind of sad that actual pirates are more successful at hijacking ships on the open seas than the pittsburgh pirates are at being a competent organization.

  • http://liberalmusings.wordpress.com Pablo Zevallos

    Manimal, you’re right, The Great Gatsby is a slow read.

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