Feb
11
Report: Dunn signs two-year deal with Nationals
ByStrike Adam Dunn off the list. According to The Washington Post, Dunn and the Nationals have agreed to a two-year deal. No word on the dollar amount, but I’d have to guess it’ll be around the $8-$10 million AAV range. That leaves Manny Ramirez as the sole remaining corner outfielder, and he is facing very few options.
Update: Tom Verducci at SI.com reports that this deal is indeed worth $20 million over two years. In my opinion, that makes Abreu’s deal with Anaheim seem like a pretty good one for the Angels right now.
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Well this forces the Dodgers hand
so now the trade matsui and get dunn annoyances can end.
Now who’s going to DH for the Yankees in 2010?
Jesus Montero.
i knew you’d be upset!!
So I’m guessing he plays first?
I say we trade Matsui to the Nationals for Dunn.
National League teams do love trading for aging DHs with NTCs, one year left on their contract, and an above-market price salary.
Good luck getting them to accept that. Even Jim Bowden isn’t that stupid (I think).
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html 20 million dollar deal says verducci
So I was right. $10 mil per. Not bad. Abreu undersigned a bit. That makes his deal a decent one for the Angels.
My instinct is that if Dunn and Abreu signed today, it’s because the Dodgers made it known to their agents that they were out. And the only way that makes sense is if they are close to a deal with Manny.
To me the question is: Does Boras use the signings to press the Dodgers? In other words, I deal might have been iminent, but now, Boras will back out and ask for more.
I think the opposite is more likely. Wouldn’t the Dunn and Abreu signings give he Dodgers more leverage and Manny/Boras less leverage? Now there aren’t as many other options out there for Manny.
Not really since neither of the teams who signed them were in on Manny anyway. The Dodgers were, however, in on Abreu/Dunn as a backup to Manny. Manny’s options stayed the same today, while the Dodger’s decreased.
Eh, I’d say the Nats were probably in on Manny, at least to a level where they can reasonably be used by Boras. The Angels had money but weren’t remotely interested, but the Nats had money and at least made an overture or two at a big ticket free agent bat (both Tex and Manny).
Now, when Coletti says to Boras “Where the hell else is Manny going to get 20M?” Boras doesn’t have any more good answers.
So, how would you order the lineup (with Adam Dunn at first base)?
SS – Cristian Guzman
RF- Lastings Milledge
CF – Elijah Dukes
1B – Adam Dunn
LF – Josh Willingham
3B – Ryan Zimmerman
2B – Ronnie Belliard
C – Jesus Flores
You know, with that offense, the Nationals won’t be a putrid club – especially if John Lannan (who can be expected to deliver over 200-hundred innings this season) and Scott Olsen can anchor the top of that rotation. Don’t get me wrong, they are definitely a last-place club in the NL East, but they damn sure won’t be pushovers.
Rangers of the NL.
In that park? Hardly
They’ll be solid, and with what they hope is pitching in the pipeline, should be able to have a solid future
“over 200-hundred innings” Talk about a workhorse!
Well that franchise hasn’t gotten 200 innings from one player since 2005, so that would be an accomplishment
I think he was referring to the “200-hundred” which would be 200,000 innings
you would need alot of extra innings games for that to be even possible!!!!!111
Or 20,000. I believe what you said is 200 THOUSAND.
Also, Nick Johnson should be able to stay on the active roster throughout the season by being an oft-used bench player.
That’s probably the most productive lineup, but Ryan Zimmerman is the absolute face of the franchise. He’ll bat third until hell freezes over.
I thought Frank Howard was the face of the franchise?
Sucks for the Giants. Landing one of these bats could have catapulted them to the top of their division. Now…
They get Manny.
That would really f*ck off hte Dodgers. But the Giants had every opportunity to sign some bat. It’s only their own fault not doing so.
And Dodgers fans would hate McCourt and Coletti even more.
Dunn & Kearns reunited and it feels so good…
I always liked Dunn. It’s a shame we couldn’t have moved some spare outfielders and planted him and his 40 home runs in left for a year or two.
Agreed. In a vacuum, Dunn would’ve been a badass guy to place in our lineup. Then again, in a vacuum, so is Manny.
Actually, all things considered I still want to sign Manny regardless of the quagmire(s) it creates.
There’s at least a 1% chance, so maybe
so what you’re saying is there’s a chance?
What was all that one in a million talk?
She was going on and on about how I never paid attention to her or something, I don’t know, I wasn’t listening…
How many wins does this add to the Nationals? 5 at most?
2.5
This could help the Yankees position with Nady to the Braves. They ask more and Braves might just overpay.
But the Braves are really only interested in Swisher. I don’t think they want Nady
Desperate times=desperate measures
. Would be funny if they gave Manny a 4 year deal.
This is true, they aren’t signing Manny and their other FA options disappeared today. Hoping that Cash can get Schafer in the Yankees system
Forget Schafer. Start with a package centered around Hanson and Heyward…I think that’s fair.
I always thought Dunn would rake at YS. Cash tried to get him a few times during the Giambi DL years, but could never strike a deal. I’m a little surprised the Yanks didn’t pounce now. Of course, they got Tex. Nady or Swisher to the Braves seems like it will probably happen now.
Nady and IPK for Schafer and Locke..(Dreaming/Hoping it will happen)
I want Schafer and Hayward for Nady.
Then I’d put Schafer in a deal for McClouth.
Genius.
1) Trade Nady for Schafer and Heyward
2) Trade Schafer, Heyward, Hughes, Cano, Melancon, and Montero for McLouth
3) Put McLouth in CF and put Joba in the 8th inning
4) Cut ARod
5) CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!!!
And makes Tony Amaro Jr. and the Phillies look worse and worse for the early signing of Raul Ibanez.
That goes down as the worst FA signing of the year in my book. They overpaid (both in terms of money and years) for an old hitter who is shitty defensively and they lost a first round draft pick in doing so by not offering arb. to Burrell (or just resigning him).
Ya, Amaro’s first move—-really dumb one.
Heh, the Phillies gave up three first-round picks for failure to offer arbitration to Burrell (they would’ve received a first-round selection and a supplemental first-round selection) and for signing Type-A free agent Raul Ibanez.
What the Phillies should have done:
1. Offered arb. to Burrell. I’d bet good money he’d have rejected it like just about everyone else did.
2. Played the waiting game like all the other teams did and eventually try to snag someone like Abreu or Dunn (who are comparable and superior respectively) for less money, less years, and no draft pick compensation attached.
Well with this detailed list you should apply to be their GM. Doesn’t a WS buy the organization the benefit of a doubt? The only thing they have to worry about is losing Romero! He’s a solid pitcher.
It gives Pat Gillick the benefit of the doubt, sure. Not Ruben Amaro. And if you have a problem with people being armchair GMs every once in a while, you’ll be doing A LOT of complaining on these forums (or any other sports blog’s).
They’re coming back virtually intact for another WS run next year. Ibanez will hit and give that lineup more depth. That team isn’t in worse shape than it was at the end of last season.
More competition this year though. Mets got a better pen, ATL has drastically improved. I think ATL is going to be real tough. Idiots though for not getting Abreu or Dunn.
I agree that the Phillies are definitely in the mix for another WS – they hardly had a fire sale or anything like that. Still, Ibanez is replacing depth, not adding depth, and the NL East is going to be a tough division through-and-through. Hindsight is always 20-20 of course, but I knew right from the start that Ibanez was a bad move, re-signing Old Man Moyer isn’t exactly a sure bet, and they lost Romero for a third of the season (at no fault to the organization, though).
No Utley.
Nationals probably paid a bit more than for coming to Washington & playing 1B
Dunn is a subpar defensive outfielder. Any info on his defense at first?
Essentially more of the same
What’s Heyward ETA? Will he help them out this year? JW.
Not even close, he was in A ball last year
I can see him getting a cup of coffee in 2010.
Definitely.
I hear Gorkys Hernandez is in the Naday trade mix.
Where’d you hear this?
you are all dreaming if you think nady gets any of hanson, schafer or heyward. the braves should curse cash out before hanging up. nady at best gets hernandez and locke.
The Nationals had to overpay for Dunn, because they are the worst team in the NL East, and maybe the entire NL (This side of San Diego).
I do not agree the Phillies had the worst signing with Ibanez Plus they defied the odds and got Ryan Howard locked up). That belongs to the Cubs with Milton Bradley. Bradley is always on the DL. The Cubs are one of the teams whose offseason warrents a “D” or worse. The other ones? Arizona, San Diego, BOTH LA teams (Unless Manny is resigned), and Milwaukee. The winners are the ENTIRE AL East (Except Toronto), Cleveland, Oakland, the Mets, and San Francisco.
How was Boston a “winner” this offseason? They didn’t get the player they wanted (Tex), he instead went to their archrivals, and they didn’t address any of their problems (age/decline/injury concerns at 3B/DH/RF, lack of depth everywhere).
I’d say Boston improved their ballclub, even though they could’ve done a MUCH better job. Still, considering all the loose change they had, they made some decent low risk/high reward moves and they’ve made me cross my fingers that they don’t work out.
Yeah, I can see Boston not being a “big loser” this offseason, because they didn’t really lose anything of importance and made some decent bets on upside. But calling them a “winner” is a stretch.
I agree. While Boston can’t be classified as a “loser”, when you miss out on the hands-down best positional FA of either this or next year’s FA class to your greatest rival over what is (in the baseball world) chump change -$12M more over 8 years or something would’ve gotten the deal done, right? – and then focus all of your resources on reclamation projects that may or may not work out, you are NOT a hot stove league winner. Boston didn’t need to improve all that much to begin with to stay competitive though, in all fairness to them.
Bradley is definitely another bad signing. He’s got DH written all over him.
He’s got DH and regression due to lack of Arlington park effects written all over him.
He’s got DH, regression due to lack of Arlington park effects, and being a fine example of the Cubs curse written all over him.
Let’s just hope he doesn’t fight with anymore umpires and tear his ACL again.
Can someone tell me what’s up with Juan Cruz? I know about the whole deal with having to give up the 1st round pick, but not a single rumor on him. Isn’t that strange? I’m missing something?
I’ve heard rumblings this wee about Arizona re-signing him.
but arizona is reluctant cause they lose the chance at getting draft picks for him.