Spring Training Game Thread: Joba takes on the Twinkies
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Joba Chamberlain will make his first appearance of the spring this afternoon, and luckily for all of us the game will be on YES. He’ll be opposed by some guy named Liriano, and according to LEN3 ex-Yank Sean Henn is scheduled to make an appearance.
Chad Jennings notes that Brett Gardner and Phil Coke will be presented with the 2008 Kevin Lawn Awards before the game, given to the organization’s Minor League Player and Minor League Pitcher of the Year. Back in September I gave those awards to Jesus Montero and Zach McAllister, respectively, but Gardner and Coke are certainly deserving.
First pitch is scheduled for 1:15. Here’s the lineup, courtesy of Bryan Hoch:
Damon, LF
Jeter, SS
Teixeira, 1B
A-Rod, 3B
Posada, DH Swisher, RF
Cano, 2B
Swisher, RF Molina, C
Molina, C Duncan, DH
Melky, CF
Scheduled Pitchers: Joba Chamberlain, Mike Dunn, Jose Veras, Dan Giese, Kei Igawa, David Robertson, Steven Jackson, Kanekoa Teixeira
Based on my highly scientific system of counting the number of pitchers scheduled to pitch and comparing that to the number of innings typically played in a game, I’m guessing we’ll get two innings out of Joba.
If you won’t be around to catch the live broadcast, MLB Network will be replaying it at 5pm, as will YES at 7pm. I might watch all three.
Update (1:01pm): Posada’s been scratched with shoulder discomfort. Hopefully it’s nothing serious. No word on the lineup change yet.
Update (1:07pm): Shelley Duncan’s the new DH.
Photo Credit: Reuters Pictures
That picture is sexy. Games 1, 2, and 3 starters for the playoffs.
only one inning for Joba according to Kay.
Wow. This top of the order is going to kill. Tex is bigger than I thought. What was with Joba’s velocity? just not trying to kick it to the next level right?
88-89. He wasn’t even trying, it looked like he was playing catch in the outfield.
I wish I could pitch free and easy like that and go 88 MPH. Hopefully everyone realizes this was actually an impressive showing by Chamberlain. God help Joba’s son when he’s old enough to play catch.
88-89 MPH?!?!?1
Joba:Bust
Hopefully everyone realizes this was actually an impressive showing by Chamberlain.
They didn’t.
Where is the new first base coach from?
Wooo, Joba’s bringin’ the heat. He doesn’t even look like he’s trying. Heh.
Is that him or are the Yankees treating treating him like a bubble boy
Delmon crushed that. woof.
I think he will have a solid season. Still will probably be looked at as a bad trade because Garza has an electric arm but Delmon has the talent.
Why do they keep putting Kei Igawa out there?
Don’t you think his inning or so of work would be better served if given to someone else?
Not really. There’s plenty of innings going around. Maybe someone asks for him in a trade if he has a good spring.
Maybe we can trade him to the Nationals for Jake Westbrook and Ted Lilly.
Plus Christian Parker!!!
Lets trade him for sizemore.
(tom)
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Y’know, I would actually be in favor of this. He’d be the craziest, most drunk team mascot ever. We could have bullet-proof shield night and have him run around the field with a shotgun shooting at people.
He’s a bust. That wouldn’t have happened if he was relieving. Either move him back or trade him.
Him for Delmon Young.
14 pitches in before the first reliever comment.
Joba getting roughed up.
Clearly Joba is a bust.
I was hoping to see 3 strikeouts on 9 pitches. Bust.
Kubel has been crushing the phenoms.
Aww, Michael Kay your such a joker. “You mean end up on the Mets?”
http://www.instantrimshot.com for Kay
Wow, Matt Cassel to the Cheifs.
link?
http://www.rotoworld.com/conte.....;hl=140371
It says something about having traded Vrabel as well. Interesting move.
Yeah, that one shocked me. I figured he was a Belichick lifer.
Now Shceffler said that there might be a 3rd “mystery” team in play. Saying there is some doubt about KC being his team to be traded to. Maybe it is the mystery team.
ESPN says nothing of a mystery team, says Cassel is going to KC.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/.....id=3942130
WOW.
Scheffler says different but they probably gave up a hefty amount since he was franchised. I wonder if they gave up their top pick this year.
Reports are saying a second round pick for Vrabel and Cassell? Seems like a weak return
That can’t be right. If they only gave up a 2nd round pick for both, NE is stupid. They aren’t that dumb…I think.
Maybe a second this year plus conditional picks for next year? They are clearing up a nice amount of cap space.
I bet there’s a 2010 pick in there somewhere. That’s textbook Pats.
I guess this means they’re confident Brady will be good to go come September. Risky…
I’m looking forward to seeing Matt Gutierrez flinging dead ducks 5 yards short of Randy Moss, personally.
I bet you said the same thing about Cassel. I think O’Connel will be looked at ahead of Gutierrez though.
Wow. Both for the 34th overall pick.
As much as I dislike the Patriots, their coach is the man. I will never doubt Bill Belichek when it comes to the personnel decisions he makes.
And then there’s Peter King’s take: Bill Belichick either didn’t get a better offer, or he did one of his best friends, Pioli, a favor with a player Belichick wanted to put in a good situation; Belichick is very fond of Cassel. It would not be surprising to see Belichick make the deal with Pioli because both were trained under Bill Parcells, and Parcells always made sure he watched out for his lieutenants and helped them whenever it didn’t hurt him.
Belichek doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy who would help out his mother
I agree with you. I find it hard to believe there were not any better offers from other teams than just the 34th overall pick. Vikings, Bucs, and maybe even Chicago could of made a better offer I think. But we don’t know so I really can’t judge. Just thought they would definitely get more for him after what he did last year.
Vrabel was having his playing time cut down and there were rumors that the Pats were no longer interested in paying him as much as he was making for his decreased role. Also, the Pats wanted to trade Cassel because he’s a $16 million backup, assuming Brady is healthy, which I’m guessing the Pats are thinking. You have to factor in the 2nd round draft pick + whoever the Pats can sign with the new found cap space.
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Huh? It’s a game thread. You can talk bout whatever.
Pioli making moves
Textbook piece of hitting by Tex.
Solid oppo hitting by Tex.
i could really get used to 1st innings like this throughout the season.
Swish swinging on the first pitch? Work the count you bum.
And Cano walked?! Bizzaro world!
Twilight Zone.
I always wondered what it would be like to see joba throw BP…. now i know… haha toppin out at 88
Thought A-Rod had that one.
Robby with a walk, look at the plate discipline.
Molina would swing at the first pitch after Robby takes a 5 pitch walk.
holy crap…cano walked…very nice
Yeah last year he would have fished at that pitch low and away.
Actually he beasted in ST last year also and we know how that went.
Womp, Womp, Wooooommmp.
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Liriano is a bust. That wouldn’t have happened if he was relieving. The Twins should either move him to the BP or trade him.
I totally feel the same way about Joba!….
I feel the Yankees should do the Twins a favor and rid them of Liriano. Liriano for Nady and Shelley Duncan. Cash, you listening?
Can we throw in the bust, ugh that guy uh.. Justin Chamberlain?
Nah, he might be useful as a long reliever/mop up man or something.
Maybe a throw in for a C prospect or something.
ICWUDT
Is that Melky wearing 53? lol Is he gonna keep it providing he makes the 25 man?
First step is always back, Melky!
Please tell me no one is wearing 45 this year.
I don’t think so. I think that number should be banished from the Yankees’ organization forever.
Wiki says MiL NRI Jason Johnson is wearing #45 this year.
The same Jason Johnson who just got diagnosed with choriodial melanoma in his right retina, throwing even further doubt on his already slim chances of making the roster.
That number might really be cursed.
Anyone ever buy a Pavano jersey?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
is there a place to watch this online?
MLB.tv
mlb.com
i mean for free?
never mind…found it
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/stealthshot
never mind…that got changed to the devils game
it’s free right now, haha. =)
really? its making me subscribe
I seriously have never seen a pitcher/prospect babied as much as Joba.Wtf is going on???
What the hell are you talking about? Seriously, what is this in reference to? It’s spring training. What, did you think he was going to go 9 innings? People get pulled from ST games for hangnails and bruised cuticles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=342kERaP2y0
What are you talking about? I dont expect him be sitting 95-96 but why put him out there to pitch like its batting practice.
Uh… to see live game action maybe, as opposesd to a cage and his teamates
Really did him alot of good
Lol ur actually worried about the results? Sh*t, Mariano can’t even throw yet lets cut him
Because it’s SPRING TRAINING.
Is this the first ST game you’ve ever seen? You’re seriously making a mountain out of a molehill.
It’s not even a molehill. It’s like … a clump of sand left stuck together after the kids destroyed the sand castle.
Its incidents like these that really separate the newbies from the guys who actually understand how baseball works.
That was me. But then I used Old Spice, who’s laughing now?…Me.
Oh sorry its just that I was waiting for Joba to throw a touchdown
Well, you certainly seem clueless, what with your excessive comments about the team “babying” Joba. You’re speaking like a man who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-291478
Why didnt Phil Hughes pitch like that then?
I would cease posting for now because you’re embarrassing yourself.
It’s funny, because if he wouldn’t have made this start and instead started with the rest of the regular rotation next week, no one would be saying they’re babying him.
Girardis on record saying he expects 30 starts from Joba.
Melky just Gardnered that ball.
Nice bunt by Melky. He was going for a hit there.
Nice bunt by Melky.
Now one by Damon.
Nice bunt by Johnny
Hank just leaned out of the luxury box and screamed . Swing at the Damn Ball!
Yankees playing the game “the way it should be played”
I really hope the Yankees don’t have too many innings with more than one bunt.
I was quoting Kay because he said that about the Twins
Man, it’s still weird to see Tex on the Yankees…and I LOVE seeing it.
Michael Kay already in midseason form.
/punches self in the face
I finally agree with Kay!!! He does have a fat ugly neck
This is not what I envisioned my first baseball-watching experience of 2009 to be
Devs are up 2-0 after one
…I mean 3-0 =D
… 6-1
Joba was a little up, but that can be worked on. That slider he threw was filthy.
More like, he was putting absolutely zero stress on his arm and was just playing catch for an inning.
good walk by A-rod
I see it’s Spring Training for the trivia question makers as well. Laugher.
http://www.gbnreport.com/
Good news for Bowe and Gonzalez.
In other news, Dawkins went to the Broncos.
And, the Ray Lewis to the Broncos rumors won’t die either. Apparently he’s not super enthused to return to Baltimore.
Can’t say I blame him, the Ravens are like a carcass getting picked clean by scavenger birds. Ironically.
I’m telling you man, Lewis is going to the Cowboys.
Lewis has no connection to the Cowboys, and frankly, they’re a mess organizationally and you know it.
The Broncos d-cordinator is Mike Nolan, who was Lewis’s coordinator with the Ravens. Plus, the coach is Josh McDaniels, who’s Patriot pedigree is more impressive than Grandpa Wade’s pedigree of ineptitude. And, the team is getting better (like Dawkins and Arrington), and Cutler and his wideouts >>> Romo and his wideouts.
I can totaly see him preferring Denver. Better chance of success, as crazy as it sounds.
Na, I disagree. The AFC is a tougher conference than the NFC. The Cowboys are not that far off at all to be a championship caliber team. You got Romo, TO, RW, Austen, and Witten. Then you got Cutler, Marshall, Eddie Royal, Stokley, and Daniel Graham. They are both solid options but Cowboys have a huge edge in TE and Broncos have a better number 1 WR than the Boys but after that it is pretty even. Also, the Cowboys have a better run game and the Broncos have a whole new coach. Things could turn out to be not so good there. I know that the Skins and Eagles are getting better this offseason and will probably continue to but I don’t see how he has a much better chance at succeeding there than he does with the Cowboys. Injuries were more of a hurt to the Cowboys last year than TO and the organizational mess in my opinion. Wade Philips is not a great head coach but he’s a great defensive cordinator and he has a track record of that. When he took over the d playcalling last year, the Cowboys defense greatly improved…minus the last game of the season.
dont forget tony Scheffler…he is really good and fast when he’s healthy
That’s how I got mixed up to be honest.
Scheffler > Graham last year, even with Scheffler missing a bunch of games due to injury
Still doesn’t matter when you compare them to Witten.
Agreed, but it decreases the amount of advantage that the Cowboys have at TE by a little bit
Good news for Bowe and Gonzalez.
I wonder if this convinces Gonzalez to stay.
Oh, and this trade locks the first 4 picks in the draft in stone: mark it down now.
1) DET – Matt Stafford
2) STL – Jason Smith
3) KC – Aaron Curry
4) SEA – Michael Crabtree
I agree unless the Hawks go and get TJ. Of they get him, who do you think they go at 4?
If the Hawks get T.J. Houshamazilli, I guess they go DL instead. McShay has them taking B.J. Raji at #4 in his mock, I could see that.
I think after trading for Lito Sheppard, the Jets are perfectly positioned now to take a WR at #17, probably Darrius Heyward-Bey.
Heh. Remember last year at the draft. NO WR’s taken in the 1st. Donnie Avery the first guy taken. Kelly, Thomas, and Hardy were all hyped up way too much. My boy was stoked when the Bills took Hardy in the 2nd. He went wild.
This year’s wideouts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year’s wideouts.
Not even remotely close.
Of course.
im not too happy with Dawkins (as a die-hard Broncos fan)
he is getting too pld and probably cost a lot
His old ass is still a whole lot better than Herana-Daze Jones, Vernon Fox,
Marlon McCree, and Josh Barrett.
haha thats true
Pop, my prediction is that conditional pick has escalators that can turn it into a 2010 #1 pick. Watch.
Forgive me if I’m wrong, but didn’t they end up with something like the 10th overall pick in addition to Randy Moss when they made that deal?
They traded a 4th rounder for him. They had the 10th from SF when they gave it to them for Joe Staley.
You’re wrong. Moss was for a 4th rounder. The Pats got the 7th pick in the draft last year by trading down with the 49′ers the year before (when they moved up to take Joe Staley).
The Pats then traded down from 7 to 10 when they couldn’t work a trade to move in front of the Jets at 6 (because they wanted Vernon Gholston). Ended up with Mayo instead… just another example of lucking out by NOT getting what you originally wanted.
Ah that was it. I just remember complaining that they got Moss so cheap, and then complaining later on that they had such high pick after such a good season, and the two events got mixed in my memory.
Randy Moss for a 4th rounder.
Wes Welker for a 2nd rounder.
Wes Welker had more trade value than Randy Moss… and then Randy decided he wanted to play again at a HoF level. I can never look at that guy with anything other than utter disdain.
OAkland- Where players go to die.It’s gotta be similar to the Brett Farve deal, and we all know how that worked out.
I keed.
As a Jets fan, the Brett Favre deal worked out wonderfully. I have no regrets.
One year of Brett Favre was easily worth the rest of Chad Pennington’s life.
Huh, apparently, no conditional: ESPN and the KC Star have both gone to press saying it’s Vrabel and Cassel for a 2nd only.
Wow. Nice move for the Chiefs.
Scheffler knows his stuff.
But apparently, he doesn’t know that his name isn’t “Schefter”, at least, according to Mike Pop. He’s been misspelling his name his whole life, what a dumbass!
Ya, well I fucked up.
Kitna to the Cowboys.
Ya, well I fucked up.
Kitna to the Cowboys.
Meh.
Wow. That’s really surprising. Somehow I think they regret this trade during the season. I think Brady’s going to have some problems with his wheel.
I hope so.
I don’t normally root for a player to be injured (or be unable to recover from that injury), but I make an exception for that douchenozzle Tom Brady. Screw him.
http://deadspin.com/5161480/dr.....ies-gisele
Tom Brady’s rocking the 1987 Pat Riley look, I see.
http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/
Where’s the new first base coach from?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Kelleher
Whiffle ball-like swing from Melky…
AAHHHHHH TEXIERAAAA
simply awesome!
So yeah, Giambi wouldn’t have come close to making to that play.
Giambi would have sprained his assbone and been on the DL for a month.
Na, Giambi just would of said fuck it and would have not even tried to make it.
This is a bad sign on the Posada front, Mike, what do you think our game plan on the whole catching situation should be?
Here’s our gameplan:
1) Don’t overreact to a scratch from a ST game.
That is all.
I’m not proposing we go out and make a trade (mainly b/c we have so many options, unproductive offensive options but options). I certainly hope Jorge can catch but realistically hes pretty old and a big question mark when he starts to feel something in that shoulder w/o even throwing hard….BUT if we were to go out and get a young catcher who can hit a little it would be a great move as he’d probablly start like 35% of the time anyway, no?
Yes. But whatever it would take to get that young catcher who would start 35% of the time would probably be way more valuable to us than a young catcher only starting 35% of the time.
I guess, but if this is a win it all year and you already have a ? in CF for now, you can’t leave the possibility of having two holes in the lineup which we all saw coming. Then after we miss the playoffs, the blogosphere goes nuts with why we shouldnt have been starting Gardner and Molina every day in important games.
If not a younger guy, Bengie Molina would be worth checking in on, and if they were willing to take on his brother in return, that would solve the roster spot issue.
Every year is a “win it all” year. Which means that that statement means nothing, because any willingness to sacrifice the future for the present (since it’s a “win it all” year) must be balanced by an unwillingness to sacrifice the future for the present (since next year and all the years after that will also be “win it all” years.)
I dont deny validity to that argument. However every year you dont open a billion dollar new stadium and every year you dont sign the top 3 FA’s so its kind of more of a win it all year. What do you see Cervelli contributing the year?
Also I forgot to throw in which we all know, roster spots are at such a premium anyway, but its an issue and something decent might be cheaper now then in the summer.
Ugh, Igawa.
More like UGHawa! AMIRITE?!
U R
Just had a crazy idea: Maybe the Pats traded Cassel to free up space to make a run at Ray Lewis.
It makes sense…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/ne.....;type=lgns
They got Fred Taylor
… yesterday. Yes, we know.
That’s what i was getting at in my post earlier. The trade is more like: Cassel + Vrabel for 2nd round pick + free agent. What are the Pats best at? Building through the draft and signing key FA’s to fill roles for them. They traded a backup QB and an aging LB for a chance at two studs… good move by the Pats.
It is a good move… but I still can’t believe they not only didn’t get more than one pick for a young, potential franchise QB, they threw Vrabel into the SAME DEAL.
Vrabel should have been worth at least a 6th or a 7th by himself, and the Falcons got a 2nd AND a 5th for Matt Schaub. The lack of other late-round picks or future conditionals is a bit surprising.
I see why the Pats did it, but this deal is a steal for the Cheifs. Not typical to see the Pats on the losing end of a “steal”.
Agreed… that was my initial response as well… you’d think they could get more, but it isn’t a bad haul either.
Key FA’s like Adalius Thomas?
And calling Cassell a back-up is misleading. He put up great numbers in the system and should have had them in the playoffs. They now have an aging (though prolific) starter quarterback coming off of very serious knee surgery. It’s not like Cassell was utterly useless to them, otherwise they wouldn’t have franchised him.
And what studs are available in FA? Haynesworth is the only person I would’ve called a “stud” (and he went awful quick). Maybe Bart Scott, but he’s off the market. Ray Lewis is far from a stud at this point and would be an “aging LB” as Mike Vrabel is (though better, admittedly).
This move is questionable in my mind.
Not really. You know Brady’s your future. With the way FA’s moving, the Pats could probably get Jeff Garcia or some other backup like that at some point; some other decent backup-caliber guy will shake free.
They really couldn’t keep Cassel forever. Might as well get value for him.
And calling Cassell a back-up is misleading. He put up great numbers in the system and should have had them in the playoffs. They now have an aging (though prolific) starter quarterback coming off of very serious knee surgery. It’s not like Cassell was utterly useless to them, otherwise they wouldn’t have franchised him
When i referred to him as a backup QB, I didn’t mean in terms of the league, Cassell would certainly start in many other cities. I meant he is the Pats backup QB and therefore his value to the Pats, is less than his value would be to the Chiefs, or some other time. Similar to people talking about the Yankees dealing from an area of strength (young pitching arms) for an area of weakness (CF).
When I saw they franchised him, my initial reaction was that there was no way they’d have two QB’s making that much money at the same time. So yes, I agree, Cassell was not utterly useless to them, but his value to them (considering he was their back-up), was to trade him for something they can use.
Genius. Why didn’t Cash make this move?
Good point. Why hasn’t Cashman signed Mike Vick yet?
CASHMAN YOU TEH SUXOR!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!11!!!!!!eleventy!!!!!!!!
I heard Vick plays a nasty CF
He’s a pitbull of a defender. He never dogs it.
ICWUDT.
http://deadspin.com/5162095/re.....hamberlain
Heh, the Fake Joba looks more like Turtle for Entourage than he does Joba.
Ha, exactly what I thought.
Hasheem Thabeet just missed a dunk after fumbling with the ball for half an hour. Have fun in the NBA, dude. My advice: stay for your senior year.
He will, he wants that championship. He won’t get it this year because of Tyler.
You make me chuckle, Mike Pop. You make me chuckle.
UNC should be in good shape, if they don’t have to face any crappy bubble teams. They aren’t winning it all.
Juan Cruz finally signed. Royals for 2 years $6 million. I guess he is the 7th inning man.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....n-cru.html
Suprised that he got that much.
He got less money than Kyle Farnsworth.
So over the past two years the Royals have signed Cruz, Mahay, Dotel, and Farnsworth for their bullpen. They should have pooled that money along with Guillen’s to get a good player or spent it on the draft/international FA.
They spent almost $11M on the draft last year, a record. They’ve never been shy about spending on talent, they gave Hosmer, Moustakas, Hochevar and Gordon gigantic bonuses the last few years.
If the alternative to spending money on Farnsworth and Cruz is not spending the money, then I’d rather see them spend it. They just need to make better decisions.
Like, say, spending money on Adam Dunn or Orlando Hudson or Pat Burrell or something rather than Farnsworth or Cruz.
Problem is, since they suck, they usually have to overpay to get quality guys. The Royals MO seems to be “all we can afford at market value is relievers, so lets sign some every year and then try to trade them for something good midseason”.
Problem is, the midseason reliever market is shrinking because more teams are discovering these guys don’t make that much of a difference.
Maybe they’re moving Soria back into the rotation.
You’re telling me the Yanks couldn’t have ponied up for that?
Nice throw by Frankie.
Sign Esteban German he is better than Ransonm and Berroa
OMG it’s Jesus (Montero).
And then AJax. I had the same reaction.
Too bad SEAN FREAKING HENN had to ruin it for us. Douche.
Bust.
Do they really need to play “New York, New York” in Tampa?
YOU’RE IN TAMPA.
Only someone who isn’t a True Yankee would complain about “New York, New York” being played. I hereby revoke your fanhood.