Feb
03
The Abreu market
ByAccording to Daily News writer Roger Rubin, the White Sox have, at some point this winter, extended a one-year, $8-million offer to Bobby Abreu. The Yanks’ former right fielder made $16 million last year and had originally wanted a three-year deal at a similar average annual value. He may find it tough to swallow a 50-percent pay cut, but in this economy, Abreu might have to. How he makes the White Sox a better team though is something I can’t quite fathom.
Update 3:15 p.m.: A suburban Chicago newspaper has debunked this Abreu rumor in a rather roundabout way. A White Sox has “dismissed” the rumor, according to the Daily Herald news service. Take that for what you will.
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If he signs they need to trade…or else Abreu in center with Dye RF and Quentin LF.
Yikes on that defense
Well, I assume you’d be going Dye-Quentin-Abreu in that scenario, but yeah, it’s not pretty no matter how you slice it. And, 1B and DH are both occupied as well.
But it can’t be Bobby Abreu in CF. Somebody might die. Literally.
…but the throwing arms!!!1!
I think it anyone’s life would be in danger, it would be Bobby’s. I mean, I know that if I was a ChiSox fan and Abreu was the everyday CF, I’d probably order a hit on him.
“Bobby, you did this to yourself”.
This is the business we’ve chosen.
I didn’t ask who gave the order because it had nothing to do with the business!
i’d assume he already has a landing place for Dye lined up. that would be my guess.
Atlanta? Cincinnati?
Dodgers?
The Mets corner outfield situation is awful, they apparently don’t want to pay for Manny and their lineup is already loaded with lefty bats which would make Dye more attractive to them than just signing Abreu.
The White Sox would be able to save a few mil by trading Dye and signing Abreu, who’s a better hitter anyway. They’d also get a low level Met prospect.
That could work for both sides I guess.
If he takes Jim Thome’s place, it’s just one left-handed hitter replacing another, except Bobby would be better on the base paths. Pretty similar production at this point in their careers.
Will the White Sox have one of the worst all around defenses?:
1B: Konerko, -2 UZR/150 past couple years
2B: no info on Getz
3B: Fields, -12 UZR/150 career
SS: Alexei -8 at 2b…probably goes to -10 or so at SS
LF: Quentin: -8
RF: Dye -16….if Bobby replaces him it should be the same or worse.
CF Brian Anderson, pretty good at +8.5
Either way that’s pretty ugly
I don’t know what happened with Carlos Quentin, he was an excellent right fielder in Arizona during the 2006 and 2007 seasons.
Yeah that is odd, +13 as a RF…maybe there is hope for their D
Chris Getz was 8 runs above average at second base in Triple-A during last season, according to Sean Smith’s TotalZone defensive metric.
How doesn’t he make them better especially when they trade Dye for a pitcher?
Because
A) Dye can most assuredly still outproduce him offesnively, and Abreu’s definitely a huge defensive downgrade, and
B) With Dye’s huge contract and advanced age, he’s not going to bring back any pitching of any value.
If they need pitching, they’re better off just overpaying for Wolf or Sheets and keeping Dye.
No doubt you’re using the term “overpaying” loosely considering the current baseball market. I bet they could get Sheets on a 2 year / $25MM contract, and he was going into this winter looking for something like what Derek Lowe, or even AJ Burnett, got. Shit, he’s younger than both and started the all star game.
It really is shocking that him, Dunn, and Manny are still FA’s.
Especially since these teams should of signed Manny or Dunn by now:
Mets-more Manny
Angels-either one
Nationals-I guess they fit the bill
Dodgers-Manny
Giants-could use either bat and make them competitive.
All these teams fit Manny more but still Dunn’s bat would be great for LA Angels.
Oh, yeah. I was just saying “overpaying” in the sense that you could just throw an extra 1-2M on top of the bargain-basement prices the Dodgers and Rangers are throwing at Wolf and Sheets and steal them right away.
Not overpaying in the traditional sense, overpaying in the collapsed-market sense.
You’re totally right then, and the ChiSox definitely have the spare cash to make some moves on the bargain bin discounts. I’m not intimately familiar with the White Sox, but it seems like Sheets would fit right in with their rotation and be a great #3 SP for them.
depends who the pitcher is.
you are right, it *could* make them better.
but it’s not at all a given.
Jermaine Dye turned 35 last week and is owed 23.5M over the next two years. If Williams called up Cashman and said “I’d like a pitcher of yours in exchange for Jermaine Dye”, Cashman wouldn’t give him anything better than Adam Olbrychowski.
So yes, it “could” make them better depending on the pitcher, but we’re already stretching the limit of this hypothetical past its breaking point, I’d imagine.
They’re getting rid of Thome
Who wants Thome? Maybe the Angels could take a flier? But they should just sign Dunn or Manny. Idiots.
Exactly. Anybody who would consider trading for Thome would just sign one of Manny/Dunn/Bobby themselves and call it a day.
The only way it makes sense is if the Sox are eating all of the 13M on Thome’s contract in exchange for getting a decent prospect, but I can’t see the Sox doing that.
Why would anyone trade for Dye before Nady, or Thome before signing Dunn? I call BS.
Maybe they’re trying to sign him so they can package him with Wilson Betemit and Jeff Marquez and trade the three of them back to us for Nick Swisher.
small sample size alert:
Abreu at US Cellular:
.381/.487/.746 in 76 PA’s.
so there’s that…
Dude, he could be the MVP.
Most Venezuelan Player.
NICE
Who replaces JAvy Vazquez’s spot in the rotation for Chitown?
Probably looking at an opening day rotation of John Danks, Gavin Floyd, Mark Buerhle, and Jose Contreras with Aaron Poreda, Clayton Richard, and Bartolo Colon (or the fat Al Aceves, as I like to call him) battling for the 5th spot, I’d guess.
i am hoping that Colon pitches well enough to become their second best starter, thus setting up a mid-season headline of
“Colon makes fine #2″
thank you, i’ll be here all week.
(tearing in laughter)
The irony of an unfunny dude like steve (different one) trashing someones opinion is funny. You ever have a point or is it just try to make fun?
Dammit. I wish I had saved the “jejune” card for your jejuniciousness.
Word of the day: jejuniciousness
I was hoping “Gelky” would catch on, but this is a nice consolation prize.
Gelky’s nice… i just prefer “Gardbrera”.
Jejune.
I’ll show ya jejune.
http://www.baseball-almanac.co.....ograph.jpg
So the man’s autograph consists of hastily strewn-about phallic symbols. Point, Raul.
i want mannyy if he hasnt aceepted those to offers the yanks should jump in give him an offer give him 3 years 60 million and move on
Only if it were this easy.
Anyone have Chicago for 8 million for Abreu? You might be winning the book.
Nevermind
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=269179
Shouldn’t the title of the article be:
“Hooray, Sox fans: Team source dismisses Abreu rumor!”
ouch. this is bordering on cruel now…
Hey, Bobby, maybe we can just have throw ourselves a nice pity party with all the money you made selling that sweet two bedroom condo at One Beacon Court– AWWWWW, TOO SOOOON?????
Abreu goes to the Dodgers after Manny goes to SF. Trust me, I know these types of things.
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