Yanks sign pre-arb players

To hold or to keep prospects
Spring Training Game Thread: Facing Derek Jeter

Via MLBTR, the Yanks have signed ten players not yet eligible for salary arbitration to one year contracts. The list includes Ian Kennedy ($408,925), Cody Ransom ($455,100), Jon Albaladejo ($406,075) and David Robertson ($406,825). Like most teams, the Yanks determine the salaries for players with three years of service time based on a sliding scale of how much service time they actually have. I haven’t seen anything on the contracts of Phil Hughes of Joba Chamberlain this winter, both of whom fall into the pre-arb category, but it’s safe to assume both are in that $400-450k range.

To hold or to keep prospects
Spring Training Game Thread: Facing Derek Jeter
  • Expired Milk

    So what go you guys think. Will they lock down Joba and Hughes once they hit the arbitration years or go year by year? Because as we know only genius GM’s like Theo are able to lock down their young stars for cheap .

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

      Yeah by year, the Yanks have no need to assume that risk. They have the money to pay these two big arbitration raises if warranted.

      Pitchers are just so fragile, which is why they aren’t going to lock up Wang any time soon.

    • A.D.

      Theo locked up positional players, which is a lot different than locking up pitchers.

    • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

      If I’m not mistaken, it’s common practice amongst high-revenue, high-payroll teams that they don’t issue out long-term deals to their pre-arbitration-eligible, pre-free-agent pitchers because of the injury risk associated with pitchers.

      • A.D.

        If only they’d all sign the Wakefield deal

        • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

          Heh, seriously. That guy is such a conundrum, though. I mean, overall, his numbers suggest he really is an absolute steal, but he is so inconsistent from start to start, that it’s hard to adequately evaluate him based solely on his year-by-year numbers.

          • A.D.

            No matter what it’s way below market value

    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      Sorry to single you out for this, many people do it… But dude… Does every freaking conversation have to include a bitch/moan session about the Sox and/or the perception of the strength of their team or front office? Yawn.

      • Expired Milk

        I was being sarcastic :(

        • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          Yah, I got the sarcasm. Again, sorry to single you out, a ton of people do it.

      • Bo

        You don’t sign pitchers to long term deals. The teams have all the power the first 7 yrs. You use that. Like they are doing with Wang.

        • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          Do you even attempt to reply to the right comment, or are you just like, using the force?

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Oh, you mean that thing you just found out about, like, three hours ago and are now judging me for not believing in it?

        • A.D.

          Its generally 6 years, and they have all the power for 3, and a good portion of power for the other 3

  • A.D.

    Are IPK, Hughes, or Joba Arb eligable next year? or not till the year after?

    • Chris

      Kennedy will not be eligible after this season, but there is a possibility that Joba and Hughes would be super-two eligible players (but I think that’s unlikely) assuming they spend the entire season on the major league roster.

  • steve (different one)

    look at what the Phillies did with Hamels.

    the Phillies were in the same situation this winter that the Yankees were in last winter with Wang.

    the Phillies guaranteed 3 of Hamels’ 4 arb years.

    had the Yankees done that last winter, it would have cost them several million dollars above what they will pay by going year by year.

    if Wang has a good year, the Yankees should approach him NEXT winter to do a 4 year deal where the Yankees buy out 2 years of FA for a discount.

    • Expired Milk

      That would be the best option.Wait until a couple years before FA and then sign them.

    • A.D.

      Phillies don’t quite have the payroll flexibility the Yankees do, makes more sense for them. Just like KC signing Grienke, some of those teams prefer the known expense so they can maneuver the roster appropriately

      • steve (different one)

        sure, but i guess i don’t see how the VERY worst case for them was more than a couple million higher than what they paid, and they gave away all of their downside protection.

        it just wasn’t that great of a deal. not horrible, but just kindof pointless in my opinion.

        all they did was take the expected arbitration payouts and guaranteed them. they didn’t get any of his FA years in return. they didn’t get a huge discount.

        • A.D.

          My only guess is what happened with Howard spooked them a bit

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Also, though, they did that after Hamels was a true ace and had demonstrated ability to pitch 200 innings healthily at an all-star level.

      I love Joba and Hughes as much as the next guy, but they both need to be all-star pitchers able to make 33 starts before we think about giving them anything more than year-to-year deals if we don’t have to.

  • CountryClub

    These numbers are a little misleading. For example, if IPK spends the year in AAA he’ll “only” make 123k.
    http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/yankees/

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