A bad game all around

Wang, Ransom hit the DL
Berroa, Robertson hop on the Scranton shuttle (Update: Melancon too)

We could sit back and blame Mariano Rivera or Damaso Marte for last night’s 5-4, 11-inning fiasco, but that wouldn’t be fair. We could blame injuries or Joe Girardi for some highly questionable bullpen moves, but that too wouldn’t be accurate.

We should though look very carefully at what happened in the top of the 9th when Robinson Cano came up with the bases loaded and no one out. At that point, the Red Sox had a win expectancy of three percent, and Cano could have put the game out of reach. Javier Lopez had just walked two Yankees in a row, and he seemed primed for a meltdown.

Cano took a pitch outside for ball one, and then, on the next pitch — the first ball thrown near the strike zone in that AB — Cano hit into a 4-2-3 double play. Melky would then foul out, stranding two of the six runners he left on base, and the Yankees would rue a golden opportunity to seal a much-needed victory. It wasn’t in the cards.

In fact, it wasn’t in the cards from almost the first inning when the game started out with a single, a balk, a stolen base, a passed ball and a run before Joba Chamberlain could retire even one Red Sox hitter. For Chamberlain, it would again be that kind of night. He threw 91 pitches — just 49 of them for strikes — and walked away with a very ugly line. He allowed 9 hits in 5.1 innings; he walked four and struck out two. That he managed to leave the game in line for a no decision is hard to believe.

For Joba, it was the second straight wild start, and for the Yankee starters, we’re starting to see a trend. Pitchers with pinpoint control are having trouble in the early going locating their pitches. At some point, we’ll have to start questioning Dave Eiland’s ability as a pitching coach and stop blaming anything else. It’s still early, but it’s not that early.

The other alarming aspect of Joba’s game was his velocity. As the ol’ pitch f/x numbers tell us, Joba never got above 94.6 on his fastball and averaged around 92 miles per hour last night. That’s not good enough to get Major League hitters out, and it continues a trend we’ve seen since Joba left the game with a tight shoulder in the Texas heat last summer. I’m trying not to worry, but it’s hard to ignore it.

By the time the 11th inning rolled around, the Yanks had few options. Phil Coke and Jonathan Albaladejo had been used, and Brian Bruney was, as we later found out, unavailable. With Jose Veras mostly unavailable after his three-inning outing Wednesday, the Yanks could have thrust Steven Jackson into the fire or they could have used Edwar. After making the decision to bring Mariano into the game in the middle of an inning, Girardi stuck with Marte beyond the lefty, and Kevin Youkilis sent everyone home.

Of course, beyond the pitching, the Yanks hardly played a tight game. They managed 13 hits and eight walks against the Red Sox and could plate just four of those 21 base runners. They hit into three double plays, left 15 runners on and managed a 4-for-19 line with runners in scoring position. To this, I say but one thing: Give me A-Rod or give me death. Tonight, the Yanks’ offense and their pitching chose death.

Game Notes: Melky Cabrera followed up his heroic performance on Wednesday with a 1-for-5 night. He left six runners on base, once again reminding us why he can be both inspiring and infuriating in a span of about 55 hours…David Ortiz looks utterly lost at the plate. He went 1 for 6 with 4 Ks, and teams will continue to pound the zone on him until he can hit again…Where have you gone, Nick Swisher? After hitting .458/.536/1.208 in his first eight games as a Yankee, Swisher has gone 5-for-29 (.172). While he’s still getting on base at around a .350 clip, his slugging percentage over that time is .276.

Wang, Ransom hit the DL
Berroa, Robertson hop on the Scranton shuttle (Update: Melancon too)
  • Andy in Sunny Daytona

    Joba, to me, looks a little hesitant. I would venture a guess that he is listening to AJ and trying not to throw everything through a wall. BUT, not everyone has the same kind of movement as AJ, he doesn’t have to go full bore.
    It’s still early and maybe the Yankee coaches are telling him to take it easy. Hopefully it will be time for him to turn it loose.

  • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

    I knew Ortiz was struggling but I had no idea it was that bad. He looked like a rookie up there last night.

    • Andy in Sunny Daytona

      I wonder when the articles about Ortiz being a diva and/or cluhouse cancer start arriving in Boston papers?

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

        Ha, probably mid June when he’s slugging around .400.

  • Flynn

    Joba inspires no confidence- He should not be out ther every 5 if he can’t throw strikes.
    The CF platoon isn’t what you’d hope for with a 200 M payroll.
    Imjuries are piling up at an almost comical rate. If Bruney is out for any period it is a hige blow.

    This team needs a spark, blowing the 1st game of a series in dramatic gag fashion versus your hated rivals will do nothing to get this team righted. Currently we have 2 SP’s getting it done and a lineuip tht for the 4th straight year can’t hit with RISP. This crap needs to end.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      Joba inspires no confidence- He should not be out ther every 5 if he can’t throw strikes

      If this were July and we saw 10 more starts from Joba like this, that might be a fair thing to say. However, it’s not a fair thing to say right now. CC’s pitching just about the same as Joba (actually striking out two fewer per nine and only walking 0.4 fewer per nine) so would you say the same thing about him? Regardless, if Chamberlain could do what he did last night in terms of innings and runs, it’d be far more valuable than what he’d be able to do out of the bullpen.

      • Flynn

        3 starts from Joba… the same thing in all 3 starts. If he had a proven track record I’d have soemthing to look forward too.. But None of us have a clue what he can actually do over 25+ starts. I’m completely disapointed with CC’s start thus far, he has been a huge let down- but he he shown to be a slow starter in years past and rebounded in a big way. Joba’s lack of a track record scares me.

        • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

          Joba had a 12 start stretch last year during which he was dominant. It came later in the season than now, so maybe he’ll be a slow starter too. The season is still early enough that Joba’s probably still looking for some sort of rhythm. I know this is hard for Yankee fans, but we have to be patient. There’s still a lot of games to go. If Joba hasn’t ironed out his control issues by June, then we’ll be in trouble.

          • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

            Ya, Joba isn’t a machine(except for out of the bullpen where he would get 3ks every inning with a 0.00 ERA) so we have to give him time. It’s been 3 starts Mr. Flynn, just relax sir. If he goes 10-13 starts like this, I’d be more worried. But Joba has the stuff/makeup to be a starter and there is no reason to just give up on him as a starter right now. I would like to see him throw harder though, but I think he might just be taking it easy.

            • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

              The fact that you agree with me makes my skin crawl…

              • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

                That’s not what your mother said last night.

                • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

                  I’ll take Anal Bum Cover for $800.

                • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

                  I’ll take The Rapists for 400.

  • BigBlueAL

    Joel Sherman blogged about how so far (not including the Red sox game) Joba has had only 6% of swings and misses on his pitches this season, compared to 17% in 2007 and 12% in 2008. Now naturally as a full-time starter you would expect this number to drop a bit, but the decreases of his swings and misses and velocity of his fastball is beginning to get alarming.

    He did mention after the game that he was throwing alot of 2-seamers with people on base to induce the DP’s, of course when asked about giving up 3 straight hits to the bottom 3 of the lineup to end his start he said that he has to be more careful because the bottom 3 could be the top 3 of the lineup for any other team. Didnt know Lowell, Varitek and Nick Green was so tough.

    If Joba the starter is now a wild, pitch to contact with a 2-seamer fastball, 6 inning pitcher, then something is really wrong. I always wanted Joba to be a starter because it would be a waste to use his dominant stuff just in the 8th, but if Joba the starter is what he is now, a tentative 6-inning pitcher, then pretty soon the talk about Joba going back to the pen wont be because the bullpen needs him, it will be because he is not nearly as effective in the rotation as he is in the bullpen.

    He was pretty dominant as a starter last season, but if his shoulder injury has gotten in his head that he needs to be a different type of pitcher to be able to start, there is something really concerning now….

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

      If Joba the starter is now a wild, pitch to contact with a 2-seamer fastball, 6 inning pitcher, then something is really wrong. I always wanted Joba to be a starter because it would be a waste to use his dominant stuff just in the 8th, but if Joba the starter is what he is now, a tentative 6-inning pitcher, then pretty soon the talk about Joba going back to the pen wont be because the bullpen needs him, it will be because he is not nearly as effective in the rotation as he is in the bullpen.

      This is another overreaction. If it’s June or July and Joba hasn’t gotten his control down, you may have a point. But he’s basically had two bad control starts in a row–in the first, he wasn’t able to work around it and last night he was. Maybe as the season goes along, he’ll get more comfortable and start pounding the zone more. The way Chamberlain throws, he’s probably not gonna get his BB/9 under 3 at any time, but it’s also not gonna be as bad as his 5.6 BB/9 now. His K/9 will also rise, probably not to the 12.6 mark he had in ’07, but it definitely won’t stay at 6.2.

      • Steve in MN

        and lets remember none of the yanks seem to have their control down (yet).

    • Zack

      160 inning pitch limit, has to make 30 starts.

      Do the math on the innings per start:

    • Zack

      Those % means nothing without comparing it to other pitchers around the league.
      And you have to break down the % in 2007 between the time he was a reliever/starter.

      I don’t make conclusion with incomplete information.

  • Zack

    I’ve never seen so many people upset with 1ER over 5.1 innings before, if Mariano gets 1 more out how would you all feel about the game?

    What do they always say? When a pitcher doesnt have his good stuff, then a GOOD pitcher is still able to keep his team in the game. Joba had no FB control and gave up 1ER over 5.1 innings.

    • Tom Zig

      His slider wasn’t working either.

  • Trevor

    Like the first poster said I think Joba is listening to Burnett. But the problem is according to YES gun, he’s throwing a 4 seamer that is 90 91. That’s not Joba Chamberlain.
    No one is saying he should consistently throw upper nineties but his arm will not fall off if he’s consistently mid nineties. AJ still throws mid and sometimes upper ninties even taking mph off his FB.

    And it looks likes with Joba trying throw less it’s effecting his command.
    Sorry but I rather have mid nineties Joba with good command like he’s always been. Then have 90 91 with no command.

    I know Burnett is only trying to help but right now throwing low nineties isn’t helping Joba.

    • Reggie C.

      As long as Joba remains healthy, he’ll find the FB command. Everybody raves about the stuff; Joba just went up against a tough, patient lineup and didn’t look great.

  • Reggie C.

    Bay crushed the worst pitch of the night. It happened to be Mo who threw it. Mo lost us the game. But it happens.

    • Reggie C.

      If Paps didn’t have the game-changing Pedroia at 2B , Paps would’ve done Mo the favor and become the second closer of the night to cost his team the game. Paps was just alittle luckier.

      • Zack

        And if the ball went into Mo’s glove on the hit up the middle then we leave with the win. Things happen, Pedroia made a great play and Pap got to do his fist pump off the mound.

        • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

          I hope he hits himself in the nuts one time when doing that.

          • Zack

            And when a Yankee pitcher smiles after the end of an inning the media calls it unacceptable.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

          Ditto if Drew hits the ball just a little bit harder.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Wait, why is it not fair to blame Mariano Rivera? He was not put in an unfamiliar situation, and he proceeded to give up a smoking liner up the middle and a two-run jack. I’m sorry, but history be damned, that’s entirely his fault.

    Also, if you look at the Gameday data from last night, you will see that the pitch Cano swung at was literally right down the middle of the plate. Why would he take that? There is such a concept as being “too patient”, and if my red-hot #6 hitter is ahead in the count 1-0 and gets a pitch down the middle of the plate, I want him swinging each and every time.

    • Zack

      I was just going to say that.
      Mariano is great but he blew the save, no reason to make excuses. Every game there is 3-5 plays that can change the outcome, but Mariano gave up a bomb and that’s it.

      • El Generalissimo

        It is not blasphemy to blame Mo for a loss. Yes, unreal missed opportunities with RISP tonight, AS USUAL… but, sadly even with everything wrong we had a 2 run lead with 2 outs in the 9th. 9.5 out of 10 times Mo closes the door. One bad pitch last night and shit happens.

        Besides, Mo is clearly still getting back to form from shoulder surgery, his velocity has been a bit down too.

        Finally, as many others have said if Joba is still throwing 91 in july cause for concern. Now, he is slowly rounding into form and proved that even when he doesnt have his best stuff he can still keep his team in the game. Which is what you want to see. He is maturing it’s a process. Again, I rather him conserving himself and not overthrowing early so he can actually last 160 innings and build on it for the future.

        • Rich

          Besides, Mo is clearly still getting back to form from shoulder surgery, his velocity has been a bit down too.

          Which is why I thought he wouldn’t be used for 4 out saves until at least mid-June.

  • Yankees >
    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      This has nothing to do with baseball, and you fail as a person for posting it.

      • Andy In Sunny Daytona

        Hear, Hear, Raul! While this story is sick and twisted, it has nothing to do with baseball.

    • Steve in MN

      yea us Yanks fans are real classy

  • miketotheg

    This game was definitely a let down.

    I was yelling at girardi when he took out joba. I thought that was way premature. You gotta grind it!

    taking out alba-la-pendejo with a 1-0 count for mo?? I think Girardi has a little too much woody allen in his bullpen management.

    Cano screwed up with no outs and the bases loaded and the red sox took the momentum, but micromanaging the bullpen is not good.

    we’ll get them today!

    p.s. Congrats on my favorite little Yankee blog all grown up, showing up on the yes network scroll “check out river ave blues.com”!!!

    • jonathan c.

      I actually don’t have a problem with the bullpen management (last night, anyway). Joba’s pitch count was high and he barely got out of trouble in the previous 2 innings.

      Alby had just hit Nick Green (!) with a pitch, so I could see Girardi going to Mo to avoid a meltdown.

    • DocBooch

      As someone pointed out last night, Girardi called for a throw to first that Molina missed the sign on. Mo was supposed to come in with no count. If you read Molina’s lips when he went to the mound for the meeting he said “my fault”

      Man I hate losing to this team, whats worse is that their stadium is packed with real fans and ours is empty with a bunch of posers in it.

      • Zack

        “Man I hate losing to this team, whats worse is that their stadium is packed with real fans and ours is empty with a bunch of posers in it.”

        Yeah cause real baseball fans wear pink and green hats

      • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

        Man I hate losing to this team, whats worse is that their stadium is packed with real fans and ours is empty with a bunch of posers in it.

        Really? RSN is a bunch of real fans and Yankee fans that go to games don’t care if the Yanks win or lose? What makes them so special, do they die for their team? You heard a Sox fan say “I’d take a bullet for Pedroia”. Something like that? I understand that those “high class” fans don’t care as much but to call Yankees fans posers is ridiculous. More and more Sox fans came out in 04 and 07, that is true. In my town alone, I saw more Sox fans than I have ever seen in my life. This is because they got the attitude before the sox won that “the Yankees buy everyone and I don’t like that”, so they decided to become sox fans and root for the bad guy.

        As Nomaas said, the aryan nation. Which was pretty funny to me.

        • miketotheg

          yea yea the red sox get the bandwagon fans and in large groups insanity is the rule. so what? the red sox still suck.

        • JimT

          Yankee fans and Red Sox fans are the same “animal”. Both are very passionate towards their team. The only reason for empty seats at Yankees Stadium is pricing. They’ll find the right level eventually.

      • miketotheg

        fenway definitely felt louder than yankee stadium, but that might be because its yankee-red sox being louder than yankees indians, or yankees a’s.

        they need to do something about those empty seats. maybe buy a filet mignon and get a free seat or something. having a loud stadium definitely helps the home team.

  • Hobs

    Fastball velocity for Joba definitely looks a bit off.

    His breaking stuff didn’t look as sharp as it had early in the spring either.

    That’s one thing that never got me too worried about Joba: this spring his curve/slider were absolutely filthy…I’m just curious as to what happened on the few MPHs missing on his 4 seamer.

    Is he battling comfort issues with his new follow through?
    Is he too tentative?

    The shoulder injury last year according to all reports was relatively minor (there’s no way he’d come back in the year if it wasn’t + Dr. Andrews gave the green light) so if there’s not something structurally wrong with him, it’s either mental, mechanical, or a different approach from what we’re used to seeing.

    I believe he’ll settle in to sitting 93-95. With his filthy breaking stuff which he showed earlier this year.

    • Hobs

      I’m basing my belief in Joba regaining his FB on absolutely nothing though.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Ben, I agree with you.

    Rivera may have been the direct cause of the loss, but the fact is he should have never been in that situation to begin with.

    I am trying not to be too concerned about Joba right now. He is our #5 starter, for all intents and purposes, and as long as he’s giving us a chance to win everything else is gravy.

    Yes, I realize he is supposed to have #1 stuff, but it’s still April, and even CC is still struggling. If they’re both struggling in another month, then I begin to say, “dude, what gives?”

    Let us not forget that despite having Ponson and Rasner start as many games as they did last year, the Yankees still won 89 games. Dave Eiland can’t possibly be that clueless.

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      Sometime you just have to tip your cap to your opponent. I’ll give the Red Sox credit, they played a good game. These games sting, but that’s baseball. The Yankees just have to go out today and play better baseball. I’m sure they can do that.

  • steve (different one)

    At some point, we’ll have to start questioning Dave Eiland’s ability as a pitching coach and stop blaming anything else. It’s still early, but it’s not that early.

    no Ben, is IS that early.

    Joba is a 23 year old in his first full year in the rotation. he is coming back from an injury. it’s going to be up and down with him all year. this is basically what happens with young pitcers.

    Sabathia has a career April ERA that is almost a full run higher than his career ERA. this sentence basically implies that Eiland BROKE CC Sabathia and he’s going to pitch poorly all year. it’s ridiculous.

    Burnett and Pettitte have both been great so far. so Burnett walked 7 guys his last start, guess what, that’s what AJ does sometimes. otherwise, he’s been awesome and so has Pettitte.

    and Wang’s problems are SO dramatic that i don’t think i can pin them on a pitching coach. surely Eiland is telling Wang to throw belt high 90 mph fastballs. he’s injured or afraid of getting re-injured.

    last year, Eiland and Girardi lead a makeshift pitching staff to their best ERA+ since 2003. this was with Wang out for half a year, Pettitte clearly pitching on an injured shoulder, and the rest of the rotation filled in Ponson, Rasner, etc.

    but all of 2008 should be thrown away after 16 games. give me a break.

    this post, i’m sorry, is indicative of the worst tendencies of the fanbase since 2004.

    Mo blew the game. sorry. what were these “highly questionable” bullpen moves by Girardi? b/c i’m not seeing any. he went to Mo for 4 outs. that is an excellent move. Bruney was unavailable, so leaving Marte in was defensible.

    Girardi got the ball into Mo’s hands with a 2 run lead. he blew it. it happens. not only that, it basically happens every year in Fenway at least once.

    it was a painful loss, but the sniping and finger pointing is almost unbearable. sometimes the players, even the ones we love, are the only ones to “blame”.

    and yes, i realize you said it wouldn’t be “accurate” to blame Girardi, but the “i’m not saying, but i’m saying…” tone is wearing thin.

    just some constructive criticism.
    /end rant

    • Nady Nation

      I’m with steve here. I’ve been a critic of Girardi in the past with some of his bullpen maneuvers, but after finding out Bruney was unavailable, I really had no problem with any of his moves last night. And as guilty as I am sometimes of not wanting to place blame or find fault with the Jeters, Pettittes, and Marianos of the world b/c of their history with the club, this game is 100% on Mo. He blew it; closers blow saves sometimes. Would anyone have even thought of assessing Eiland’s ability as a pitching coach if Mo nails down the save? Highly doubtful.

    • Chris

      I agree

  • Rich

    One thing that the “Joba to the pen crowd” is missing is that if Joba has a physical or mechanical problem (he may well have both), these issues aren’t going to suddenly resolve themselves, thereby enabling him to throw 98+ with more command, if he goes to the pen.

    I too am becoming skeptical of Eiland’s worth.

  • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

    Joba’s velocity may be down a bit and will probably correct itself, but even at its current state I’m not all that worried. Looking at Joba’s PitchFX page on FanGraphs, I see that his FB velocity is down to 92.1 from 95.2 last year, so a 3 MPH drop. The same is also evident on his change up, down from 83.7 to 80.8, again, about a three MPH drop. The difference between the two is still at 11.3 MPH (11.5 in ’08), which is a pretty damn drastic drop off. As long as he can keep that number around 10-12 MPH of drop, Joba will be fine. The FB velocity will come in due time.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    Okay, guys, answer me this:

    If Guidry is pitching coach last year, with Phil and Ian and Ponson and Rasner, how many games do the Yankees win? do they really still win 89 games?

    I’m not saying Eiland is perfect, but writing him off after less than 20 games seems a little premature.

    • Rich

      I’m not writing him off, and I don’t know if his stellar advice that is being ignored behind closed doors.. My point is that I don’t see many instances of him fixing pitchers who are struggling. It’s not time time to pull the plug. It’s time to see some more pitchers right themselves under his tutelage.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        Mike Mussina?

        • Rich

          The exception that proves the rule?

          Didn’t Moose also start an exercise program for the first time in the offseason before the 2008 season?

          • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

            They can’t all be exceptions.

            • Rich

              What the exceptions beyond Mussina?

              OTOH, He had no success fixing Hughes or Kennedy last year, or Joba to this point. That’s why I am merely skeptical, but unwilling to pull the plug.

              • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

                You do realize Phil is 22/23, Joba 23/24 and IPK not much older? And that all of these pitchers were rushed through the minors?

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

                Two points I want to make:

                1. To Rich: He’s hitting the nail on the head. Eiland was brought in as the guy to work with what we used to call the Big Three. Outside of 12 Joba starts last year, his success has been….let’s just say…elusive so far.

                2. To Rebecca: How were they rushed? If you’re going up there and throwing 6 IP of 1 hit, 10 K ball every start, it’s time to move up. That’s what Joba and Kennedy were doing in 2007, and Phil basically played one level per year until 2007 when the Yanks had no choice but to bring him up.

                • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

                  =X

                • steve (different one)

                  1. To Rich: He’s hitting the nail on the head. Eiland was brought in as the guy to work with what we used to call the Big Three. Outside of 12 Joba starts last year, his success has been….let’s just say…elusive so far.

                  and what opportunity did he have with Hughes last year? i kindof recall Hughes hitting the DL in April and not coming back until September.

        • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt

          Moose and Mo = pitching/bullpen coaches of the future.

  • josh

    i really do like our team this year. far better than what we have had the last few years. getting arod back will obviosly be a huge boost. if wang can come back and be 80 percent of what he was thats great too. a couple things do worry me though. our bullpen, while very good, is already being overworked and the centerfield thing does not look good. when i thought of sabathia wang and burnett going deep into games, i was hoping that would save our bullpen for later in the year. instead wang is out and sabathia is yet to arrive. the fatalist in me is just waiting for burnett to get hurt.
    baseball has a funny way of balancing out. we will get wang back, sabathia will find a groove and then burnett will get hurt and pettitte will start getting hammered. it seems that joba and hughes are going to be a very important part of this team this year.
    also, i realize that most people want ajax to get more time to develop but if he stays hot and the cf platoon is as weak as it has been he will be in the majoirs this year. sooner than most think. by the #’S melky and gardner might be ok but many times they just look outmatched and girardi certainly does not seem to know how to use gardner’s speed in big spots. jeter’s defense now officially sucks and i feel like he is gatting a pass for last night and i dont know why – his arm even appears to be weak at this point. the redsox have way better defense than the yankees and they made plays last night that helped them win the game. plays i just dont think the yankees are capable of making.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    I’m curious, how many April Yanks-Sox games does everyone remember? Not counting yesterday, obviously.

  • miketotheg

    wait! hold the phone!

    we can still win the series but. . .
    who’s on third?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

      No. Who’s on first.

      • Andy In Sunny Daytona

        I thought I Don’t Know was on third?

  • A.D.

    The other alarming aspect of Joba’s game was his velocity. As the ol’ pitch f/x numbers tell us, Joba never got above 94.6 on his fastball and averaged around 92 miles per hour last night. That’s not good enough to get Major League hitters out, and it continues a trend we’ve seen since Joba left the game with a tight shoulder in the Texas heat last summer. I’m trying not to worry, but it’s hard to ignore it.

    Is that some type of joke? Since when is 92 not enough fastball to get people out. I get we expect Joba to be throwing harder, but he even said how he was throwing the 2 sear to try and induce ground balls.

    So far Joba has made 3 starts, none of them have been as good as we’d like, 2 of them he pitched well enough to win the game. Its his first full season starting, we will wait and see if he puts it all together after a month.

  • Tony

    Joba’s biggest issue right now is location., not velocity. Also, am I just imagining that the strike zones around the league seem to have slimmed down this winter?

  • Drew

    Wow, I can’t say I’m pleased with this thread. Joba throwing 94.6 with a 92 AVG is good for me. His two seamer was doing wonders last night.