Cap’n Clutch comes through, Yanks win 4-3

Scranton Yanks still on pace to go 140-0
Olden named permanent temporary replacement for Sheppard


Yankees 4, Rays 3
What is this nerdy graph?

This is what a deep rotation looks like. Despite the failings of Chien-Ming Wang, the Yanks’ staff still looks strong. A day after A.J. Burnett flirted with a no-hitter, Andy Pettitte gave the Yankees another strong and deep start, going 7.1 innings in a 4-3 victory. That gives the Yanks another series victory, and their first against an AL East rival.

Like Burnett last night, Pettitte to be in control the whole game except for one inning. Mark Teixeira and Derek Jeter bailed him with a 5-3-6 double play (so nice to have a first baseman who can throw a ball), but a single to Akinori Iwamura followed by back to back doubles from B.J. Upton and Carl Crawford put the Rays up 2-0. The inning only ended when Robinson Cano made what John Sterling termed a “circus catch” behind first base.

He cruised the rest of the way — save for a fourth-inning Carlos Pena home run — retiring 22 Rays on 96 pitches. This was another case of the win stat skewing the actual results. The Yankees won the game; Andy Pettitte was the starting pitcher and pitched well. Yet his efforts go unappreciated in the win column. That honor goes to Brian Bruney, who struck out B.J. Upton and Carl Crawford for the second night in a row. He has now struck out the last five batters he’s faced, and none of them has stood a chance. It’s early, but it’s hard not to like Bruney right now.

Like last night, this game was a throwback for the Yankees. Robinson Cano supplied some power with a two-run shot to tie it in the top of the fourth, but the Yanks fell behind heading into the later innings. Then in the eighth and ninth innings, Derek Jeter came through. He doubled to lead off the eighth and scored when Johnny Damon followed suit. Then in the ninth he drove in Cody Ransom with an RBI single, putting the Yanks on top for good. It goes to show how early-season performance is nothing to sweat, especially with proven vets. Jeter was 1 for his last 20 heading into last night, but is now 5 of his last 10 with a double, a homer, and four RBI.

Capping off the throwback was Mariano Rivera, who made quick work of the Rays, retiring their final three hitters on eight pitches. I’ve seen Mo pitch so well so consistently over the past fourteen years that even without seeing the game (I caught the end on the radio) I could picture what it looked like. Mike added the only color commentary I needed: “I love watching Mo pitch. Catcher doesn’t even have to move his glove.” Perfect.

The Yanks recovered from an embarrassing situation and took an early series from one of their two tough rivals. They’ll head to their new home with a winning record. Here’s to hoping they don’t see the other side of .500 the rest of the season. The game is supposed to start at 1:08, but from the looks of it that doesn’t appear likely. For starters, they expect to introduce 46 former Yankees in nine minutes. They do this for Old Timers’ game every year, they did it for the All Star game, and then again at the final Old Stadium game. It’s never come close to nine minutes in length. In any case, it’s CC Sabathia against Cliff Lee, and it’s the start of the New Stadium.

Scranton Yanks still on pace to go 140-0
Olden named permanent temporary replacement for Sheppard
  • Drew

    Melky can’t get no respect! lol
    I sure hope first pitch is delayed..

  • Tony

    Can’t wait for tomorrows game.

  • A.D.

    Pitching depth is awesome.

  • mustang

    It’s nice to see the old dogs still show they have some bite. Guys like Andy “he is done” Pettitte and Derek “no range” Jeter. I know the Yankees just keep these guys around for nostalgia’s sake, but it’s nice to see they have some small baseball value.

    PS- Tommie I hope Jeter’s go ahead 2 out single was Jeterian enough for you I know you weren’t feeling it from Tuesday nights HR.

    • Drew

      He pulled it.. more sheffieldian

    • whozat

      A) only reactionary chumps were calling Andy “done”; reasonable people thought “yeah, he could throw 200 league-average or a bit better innings.”

      B) Why can’t Jeter have poor range AND a good bat? The issue is HOW MUCH of his offensive value does he give back in the field?

      • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pics/hostpics/5e4be77c-8e57-4d7a-8533-add8ed030ad5JerkStore.jpg Slugger27

        not nearly enough to be an unproductive shortstop… id still take him over any SS in the AL, at least for 09

        • whozat

          If his drop in offensive output last season was due to getting hit on the hand, I agree. However, if it was not, then…you’re wrong. If he’s only OPS+ing around 105, he gives back enough on defense that he is worse than average.

          And “in the AL” is a kind of artificial distinction for talking about shortstops…there are several really good NL shortstops, and I’m not sure why they’re not in the conversation…

          • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pics/hostpics/5e4be77c-8e57-4d7a-8533-add8ed030ad5JerkStore.jpg Slugger27

            yes he was down last year… i dont care if the hand injury was the reason or not, people are allowed to have off years… just cuz it comes when hes 34 doesnt mean it was an off year cuz hes old

            and i said “in the al” cuz the yankees play in the al… hence, hes the best SS in the league they play in, in my opinion

            ergo, the dudes a productive player regardless of salary

            • whozat

              Yes, players are allowed to have off years. However, you’re basically sticking your head in the sand and assuming that he’ll produce at the same level until he chooses to retire. And that’s almost certainly not going to be true. Facts are that last year, Derek Jeter was about league average. The hand injury thing gives hopes that he will be better than that this year…however, his defense will likely regress back toward his below average career norms, and a realistic estimate puts his offense at maybe a 110 OPS+

              All told…that’s good, but he’s just not elite anymore unless he returns to the Jeter of 07 or 05.

              Also…They play in the major leagues; the Yanks will see Jose Reyes just as many times as they see Mike Aviles this season. You don’t get to ignore that Rollins and Hanley are a lot better. That Reyes, Hardy, maybe Tulo, and Furcal (if he can stay on the field) will probably be comparably productive, all told.

              • Tom in GA

                Whozat is looking at Jeter from an objective and quantifiable perspective while others get emotional about things like being “allowed to” have an off year. The facts are that Jeter is not elite anymore, except in small bursts, but we still love him for all that he is and all that he’s done.

                Of course, I do hope that last year’s performance can be attributed to a hurt hand rather than the cruel march of time. I also wish that Jeter would raise his hand and volunteer to play the outfield. If he has to be asked, it will turn into one of those tedious dramas like when Mike Piazza got shuffled off to 1B.

                When the Yankees play bad, it’s almost always because they look old and sluggish. They will

                • Chris

                  Looking at it objectively, the only year that Jeter was not elite was last year. Prior to that, he was a top 5 SS every year. The real question is whether 2008 was the start of a downward trend or just an off year and he will return to his previous level.

                • mustang

                  I agree with you, but I also think that because the “mainstream media” seems to give guys like Jeter and Pettitte so much latitude people here counter that by declaring the end at the first signs of decline.
                  The answer like with most things is somewhere in the middle.

                • mustang

                  Chris hit it on the head.
                  Totally agree.

      • mustang

        A) Then there are a lot of “reactionary chumps” here, Ben being one, because after a injury prone second half last year people were throwing dirt on Andy’s grave.
        I agree with A btw.

        B) I just think too much is made of his bad range and I’m one who thinks he should start grabbing a outfield glove sooner then later.

        • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pics/hostpics/5e4be77c-8e57-4d7a-8533-add8ed030ad5JerkStore.jpg Slugger27

          “i just think too much is made of his bad range”

          me too

        • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

          There are a lot of people (maybe just me) that weren’t quite aware Andy was pitching hurt most of the second half of last season.

          • Rich

            Which points to what the real issue actually was.

            If he was done, it would have been as a consequence of the injury. It was never about merely losing his effectiveness.

            None of us knew the extent of the injury.

            But his FIP was lower in 2008 than in his “more effective” 2007, so there was also evidence that he was negatively affected by luck.

            • mustang

              But even after people learned the extent of his injury people still question Andy being on this team this winter. If a injured Andy can manage 14 wins with the 2008 Yankees a health Andy should be better with the 2009 Yankees. We will see this is only his second start.

              • Rich

                Apart from wanting to open up a spot for Hughes in the rotation, no matter what, the contract Andy accepted necessitated his return for any reasonable person.

                • mustang

                  Agree.

          • mustang

            No it wasn’t just you. I learned about it late in the season myself, but I felt that made it easier to understand his poor showing in the second half.
            To me it seemed more logical to expect Andy to bounce back this year then what Mussina did last year. But a lot people didn’t see that way.

        • whozat

          “I’m one who thinks he should start grabbing a outfield glove sooner then later.”

          That makes even less sense. He’s not going to magically turn into a plus-fielding CFer, and his bat now is kind of middling for a corner OFer.

          Did you watch the WBC? The contrast between Rollins and Jeter was, to my eyes, pretty marked. Jeter makes the plays he gets to, and I think that makes us see him as better than he is with the glove. I AM NOT SAYING HE IS USELESS. I’m saying that I really, really don’t think that it makes sense to keep him as a full-time player after this contract is up, and I won’t be surprised if he really declines over the next two years.

          • mustang

            Yes, he is showing his decline already as we seen the last two days. You maybe right lets see how it plays out.

            • andrew

              Come on… you know better than to say that the last few days mean he isn’t declining…

              • mustang

                Yes I do, but I think that the tombstone is being placed a bit to quickly.

        • Rich

          If anything, it was understated until last season,and then it was actually overstated.

          If you look at Jeter’s defense since 2005, using a metric like UZR or observation, he was anywhere from below average to considerably below average, except for last season, when he was average.

          To this point in 2009 (using a microscopic sample size), he is above average.

      • Brian

        Pettitte isn’t the ace he once was, but he WAS hurting at the end of last year.

        Either way, he’s a veteran lefty pitching in a rotation with three or four aces. He was always a good decision. I hope he hits some of his incentive clauses this season and has a good year.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    As I posted on my blog,

    Through April 15, 2008 the Yankees scored 56 runs.

    Through April 15, 2009, the Yankees scored 51 runs.

    The caveat: In 2008, the season started April 1. In 2009, it started April 6.

    Thus, last year, in five more games played, for a total of fifteen games, the Yankees scored only four more runs than they have this year, through nine games.

    The offensive explosion isn’t limited to the Yanks-check out the Jays-but if this is what the Yanks are doing now–and they have yet to score fewer than four runs in a game, what happens when A-Rod comes back?

    Now, go ahead and factor in a rotation that should give you a really really frickin’ good chance to win every game.

    I aboslutely love this team.

    • http://www.youtube.com/kevyyankees Kevin G.

      I am curious to see how runs allowed compares between those two year. Although, there have been some really bad pitches games this year.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

        2009 through nine: 47
        2008 through sixteen (date April 16): 71
        (date April 15): 62 (4/15 v Red Sox was the one where no one came close to pitching…)
        (through 9/April 10 AM): 39

        So we’ve allowed more through nine games this year BUT that includes Wang’s two non-pitching adventures = 15 runs. 47-15= 32.

        So without Wang we’ve got a lower RA. Alas, his starts still count.

        • http://www.youtube.com/kevyyankees Kevin G.

          I expect a lot less runs allowed this year. Especially since they won’t have Ponson and Rasner-son anchoring the rotation.

          I guess there’s a reason why Crump’s TSJC’s confidence level = 10

          • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pics/hostpics/5e4be77c-8e57-4d7a-8533-add8ed030ad5JerkStore.jpg Slugger27

            crump?

            • andrew

              I believe that’s his real name. Crazy to think we all exist out there somewhere in the real world…

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                My ears are burning…

        • andrew

          Yea, I take issue with removing Wang’s starts from the equation… just like if you took out the worst two starts from last years first 9 games, we’d see a similar decrease in runs allowed.

    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      “As I posted on my blog…”

      Please see RAB Commenting Guideline #8.
      What you’re doing is the same thing, in spirit/intent, as providing a link to your blog and soliciting traffic. In fact, re-printing your entire blog post word for word, in a comment here at RAB, may even be worse. I know it’s not my job to enforce the rules, and that’s a perfectly reasonable response to my posting this comment. But that point aside, the substantive point of my comment still stands. The rules exist to improve the RAB experience for all of us, please don’t circumvent the rules for your own good.

      • Joe R

        You really have a thing against her dont you.

        • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          I have a thing for people following the guidelines, I think those guidelines are there in order to provide a better commenting experience for all of us and I think we should respect those rules. Everyone skirts a rule every once in a while, but I don’t think it’s cool for people to consistently do so. Those rules are one of the reasons this has been such a great place to discuss baseball.

          No need for you to make this a personal thing. I didn’t insult anyone. I’m not really sure why you’d go there or what your goal is in posting that comment. It seems pretty unnecessary and I don’t see how any good could come out of an accusation like that.

          • Joe R

            No goal at all, just pointing out what I see. Anytime she does something that may be against RAB policy I see you there ontop of her. Im sure if there was a problem they would ask her to stop. Didnt put it out there to offend you or start anything, was jus sayin.

            • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              Well no, you weren’t “just sayin.” I get that you don’t want to be seen as someone trying to start shit, but you took it upon yourself to put those words on the page, so that’s on you. If you don’t intend to “offend” or “start anything,” then maybe you should think a little more about your comments before hitting the “add comment” button. I didn’t say anything personal or insulting, in the least, in my comment. You brought it there.

              And maybe they would ask her to stop, maybe they wouldn’t. But by the same reasoning, if they had a problem with me pointing out this kind of stuff and asking people to stop, they would ask me to stop, no? Then again, I’m pretty sure my comment didn’t break any RAB Commenting Guideline. So, either way, whatever. I like the rules, and I’ll continue to like the rules. If you don’t like it when I point out someone breaking the rules, say so, and we can discuss whether people should follow the rules or not. Should be a relatively short conversation. And with that, I’m off to the game. Enjoy.

              • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

                The moment they ask me to stop, I will. They have not thus far.

                • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  That’s fine. But they HAVE posted guidelines, and they posted them for a reason. Do you need to be specifically called out in order to follow the rules they’ve asked everyone to follow? That’s all I’m saying, it”s no biggie.

              • Joe R

                Honestly I don’t care how I’m seen on an internet forum, or in general for that matter. Try not to take things so seriously. Keep on enforcing if that’s what keeps your jelly jigglin. Enjoy the game!

  • BigBlueAL

    I just love the way Bruney has been throwing the ball since his outing on Opening Day. Unbelievable.

    Only troubling thing about today for me was Tex’s at-bats. He struck out 3 times all looking as if he didnt want to pull the trigger and when he was ahead in the count and made up his mind he was going to swing he was way out in front of the fastballs as if he was trying to start his swing earlier than usual (I know you obviously try to jump on fastballs on fastball counts like that but his swing just didnt look smooth from either side of the plate). I just hope it isnt because of his wrist, although again I may be just nitpicking and since he did miss 3 games in a row his timing could just be off.

    With the Indians and A’s in NY for 7 games could be a nice stretch to go 5-2 or better before heading into Fenway next weekend.

    • http://www.youtube.com/kevyyankees Kevin G.

      I actually met Bruney. He was at my local mall in New Jersey in (I think) the day after the season ended signing autographs and posing for pictures. However, I was too shy and hardly said anything. The funny thing is, after I took a picture with him and left, I thought up a whole bunch of questions to ask him.

      • Drew

        What mall? are you the one from Monmouth? Someone posted they lived in Monmouth after I mentioned my school.

        • http://www.YouTube.com/kevyyankees Kevin G.

          Yeah, I live in Monmouth. It was the mall in Freehold

          • Drew

            True, I thought you were talking about Monmouth Mall. I wonder what the hell he was doing in Freehold.

            • http://www.YouTube.com/kevyyankees Kevin G.

              He was signing autographs.

    • http://www.youtube.com/kevyyankees Kevin G.

      With the Indians and A’s in NY for 7 games could be a nice stretch to go 5-2 or better before heading into Fenway next weekend.

      Yea, the Indians’ pitching hasn’t been impressive this year. I can’t wait for Burnett vs. Pavano.

      • mustang

        Did you see the schedule after this home-stand? In the next 14 games after this home-stand they face Bos twice, LAA, and TB with DET being the only “soft team”. They better go 5-2.

        • whozat

          Yeah, but that means the schedule must be easier later…right? Please?

      • Drew

        If we don’t annihilate Pavs I will not be happy!
        But 5-2, sure it would be nice, but let’s not be unreasonable. Even Wakefloater just had a no hit bid through 7.

        • BigBlueAL

          Considering going 5-2 means winning 3 out of 4 vs the Indians and 2 out of 3 vs the A’s anything less should be considered disappointing. No more of this its only April who cares because thats what happened the last 2 seasons when poor starts cost them the division in 07 and playoffs altogether last season.

          Lets actually get off to a good start for a change and take advantage of the fact that it looks like the Red Sox will be the ones starting real slow this season.

    • Drew

      Yea, I wouldn’t worry about Tex, while some regress to their average, he will progress to his average. It need not be said he hasn’t been stellar in his first nine days as a Yankee, in fact, he’s been bad(offensively). He’ll be killing it soon enough, just wait until he’s protected by Alex!!

      • BigBlueAL

        Im only worried that his wrist is affecting him. If he is healthy I wouldnt be worried at all, but wrist injuries to any hitter, especially power hitters, arent something to sneeze at.

  • Joey

    That WPA chart should just automatically bottom out when Mo steps on the field

  • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pics/hostpics/5e4be77c-8e57-4d7a-8533-add8ed030ad5JerkStore.jpg Slugger27

    in my opinion, molina single handedly keeps the rays from running wild on the basepaths, yet because he goes 0-4 every game he always has this atrocious wpa rating… i dont think its fair

    the rays are a completely different offensive team if posada is behind the dish

    • BigBlueAL

      Well with the way AJ and Pettitte pitched these last 2 games you or me couldve been behind the plate and the Rays wouldnt have had many chances to steal anyway!!

    • andrew

      It may not be fair, but WPA is still a cool tool to use. It’s no different than saying Molina’s career numbers of .238/.276/.338 make him look atrocious but in reality he’s a useful player. WPA is essentially an offensive stat for position players. We know Molina brings other things to the table, thats why there are defensive stats.

      • Drew

        I agree but I don’t think it’s unfair, it’s just not applicable in certain situations with certain players. You hit the nail on the head though, different stats for different folks.

        • whozat

          Different stats to measure different aspects of the game.

          win shares and vorp and stuff take defense into account. Frankly, Andy and AJ had a LOT more to do with keeping the runners off the bases/close to the bag than any catcher did. Wang is TERRIBLE at holding runners. Joba’s not good at it either. We’ve had a lot of pitchers in the last five years that were bad at it, for whatever reason — a long delivery, immaturity on the mound, a slow fastball and lots of breaking pitches…whatever. How many times have you heard the announcers say “oh, he had that stolen on the pitcher”?

          • Drew

            Right, I was just pointing out that certain stats don’t do justice to certain guys, Ie: Molina. He calls a hell of a game and is a threat to any running game. I agreed with everything you said except for the unfair part, it’s fair but it doesn’t measure certain intangibles and even tangibles as in Molina’s case. As you pointed out, there are other stats for different aspects. WPA is a cool stat to follow, as I’ve mentioned, I don’t fully understand it yet.

          • Ed

            Joba’s career minor league WHIP:
            1.008 in 88.1 innings

            Career major league WHIP:
            1.143 in 130.1 innings

            Joba has about 1 full season’s worth of pro experience, and he’s allowed very few baserunners over that time period. It would be surprising if he was any good at holding runners on.

            • Drew

              True, he does vary his set time though.

    • Drew

      Yea I mentioned that after looking at his wpa yesterday. I surmise it’s more of an offensive/error grade. We all know the value Molina adds to the team. When he gets a hit, which he does do occasionally, especially when he plays once a week, it’s gravy.

  • Peedlum

    Random coincidence–Jeter made the whole Rays outfield look bad–

    Kapler on the slide into 3rd

    Upton on his double

    Crawford bobbling the ball on the game winning RBI

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    Joe,

    do closers always have high WPA numbers? As far as I understand this, late-inning swings have a big influence on the WPA. Pitching in these high-leverage innings (in terms of WPA) could have two results:

    a) Holding the lead: the probability of your team winning goes way up or up to 100% if you end the game
    b) Surrendering the lead: As your offense has little or no chance to come back, the WPA falls dramatically.

    Of course, this only works in close games. Is this the right reasoning?

    P.S.: No, I don’t want Joba in the pen.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      Yeah, in one-run games the WPA isn’t going to be defined by the ninth, so it still has plenty of room to move.

      • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

        So closers would be overrated WPA-wise in relation to other positions?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

          The only get the big boost in close games like yesterday. Mo wouldn’t get nearly that much WPA juice if it were a three-run game (though obviously he still would have gotten the save).

          As I say below in response to Sweet Dick Willie, player WPA is highly flawed, as it’s tough to assign the credit or blame for a play to a single player in some instances. It’s better to look at WPA swings in a game context rather than a player context.

          • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

            I read your comment and I agree that it’s flawed as late-inning are considered more valuable than those early on etc.

            I like the charts you post everyday as they give a chance to see what plays had a lot a influence.

            The sum of every game-WPA get’s into the full-season Win-Share stat, right? Would those stats then be equally flawed or do you think it all evens out over the course of the season?

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

              I’m not really in favor of just adding player WPA together and calling it a stat. WPA is better viewed on a play by play basis (which is what I think I’ve been trying to say all along, but haven’t correctly expressed it yet). Perhaps in future games I’ll just point out the four or five biggest WPA swings. That would be more telling than the aggregate player data.

              • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

                I hope you don’t do that because of my questions. Personally I like the current concept, although I’m not really sure if I fully understand it yet.

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

                  If your questions led me to re-think something based on an alternate viewpoint, then I’m glad to be changing things up because of them.

  • Sweet Dick Willie

    Am I reading the chart wrong or does it say that both Bruney and Mo contributed more to the win than Andy did?

    Because if it says that, then it’s pretty worthless in my book.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      Player WPAs are anything but perfect. To call WPA in itself worthless is pretty silly. It is based on games that were actually played, and judges a team’s probability of winning the game at that point. The methodology is pretty clear, and the charts bear that out. Events are not taken in isolation as they are in most of our other stats, but are rather geared towards the narrative of the game.

      Say what you will about player WPA stats — and I’ve noted plenty of issues in the past. I wouldn’t call player WPA an accurate indicator of a player’s ability. However, don’t just write off win probability overall.

      • Sweet Dick Willie

        But if WPA says that Bruney’s performance yesterday was more imporatant than Andy’s, doesn’t that make WPA a B-Jobber?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

          No, because 1) his impact is only going to be so big in one-run games, and 2) the offense plays a part. If Pettitte were pitching with a two-run lead, each out would lead the Rays closer to their demise, hence more WPA for the starter. Because they were tied, though, each out is just bringing win probability back to 50 percent.

  • tony from the bronx

    off topic but Big Stein. is in town.I for one,am glad that he will be able to see his vision become a reality.We as Yankee fans should remeber Steinbrenner as he was not as he is.Hopefull the press will give him the benefit of the doubt

  • Bo

    The nerd graph everyday is becoming superfluous.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      Thanks for sharing your opinion, Grantbo. Thankfully, I base exactly zero of my decisions on your negative fucking input.

      • steve (different one)

        oh snap!

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

          Eh, it was a tame response all considered. I mean, the graph has been up two days in a row. Notice how it hasn’t gone up for any of the blowouts yet? (Well, except the first two games, and the intent there was to introduce or reintroduce everyone to it.)

      • Dirt

        yeah! negative fucking input

      • jon

        I love the graphs, if I have my laptop while watching a game I always have fangraphs win probability open.

  • CountryClub

    I’m not one to normally harp on velocity, so don’t jump down my throat. But is anyone else slightly worried that Mo has trouble breaking 90 this year? Even last year he was pretty consistent at 92 and could touch 94. This year it seems he’s consistently at 89 and gets it up to 91 when he needs to. I know it’s early and he’s been pitching great, but its a little disconcerting.

    • Rob in CT

      He got three outs on 8 pitches. No one made decent contact. I am, therefore, not even slightly concerned.

      Besides, the YES radar gun is all sorts of strange. I wouldn’t trust it.

      • CountryClub

        I wasnt watching Yes; I was watching the Tampa broadcast. At the end of the day, results are what matter. I hear ya.

      • steve (different one)

        Gameday has the same 88-89, but yeah, when people start squaring up those pitches, i’ll get concerned.

      • Chris

        Gameday had him at 89 for the entire inning, so it’s not just the YES gun.

        I would be interested in seeing a comparison of the movement he gets at 93 vs 89. If he picks up some more movement with the lower velocity then he might be more effective (assuming he keeps throwing strikes).

    • Joe R

      He really hasnt had much work either. Maybe he needs to get some in to get a little bit more velocity? No need to worry tho. He could throw it 65 and be ok.

    • A.D.

      As long as he’s effective I wouldn’t worry, plus if you’re looking at the YES gun its frequently slow.