Game 12: Brother, can you spare some pitching?
ByPlacing Joba Chamberlain between CC Sabathia and Chien-Ming Wang in the rotation was a great move by Joe Girardi. After all, Chamberlain still has some kinks to work out in his delivery, causing him to be inefficient from time to time. This means high pitch counts early in the game, leading to an earlier bullpen appearance. By surrounding him with two proven workhorses, Girardi theoretically placed less strain on the bullpen. Unfortunately, things haven’t quite worked out that way.
Wang has thrown just 4.2 innings over his two starts this year, meaning the bullpen has had to pick up 13.1 innings. That’s not good, especially since Joba has 10.2 innings in his starts. All the sudden, the bullpen workload is mounting. Wang has spent the week working on his mechanics, with the specific purpose of getting his sinker low in the zone, rather than at that belt-high level that so many hitters love.
In 21.1 career innings against the Yanks, Cleveland starter Fausto Carmona has struck out 11 and walked eight, a good sign for the patient Yankees. He’s also allowed 10 runs and 22 hits, and has a 4.22 ERA. He made just one appearance last year against the Yanks, lasting five innings and allowing three runs, walking five. Wang has 33.1 career innings against the Tribe, striking out 21 to 11 walks, allowing 11 earned runs for a 2.97 ERA. Before his injury he started twice against Cleveland last year, throwing seven shutout innings with nine strikeouts the first time.That’s the Wang the Yanks are going to need today. Even his second appearance — seven innings, three runs — would help out a ton.
The lineup:
Jeter, SS
Damon, DH
Teixeira, 1B
Swisher, RF
Posada, C
Cano, 2B
Cabrera, LF
Gardner, CF
Pena, 3B
And on the mound, number forty, Chien-Ming Wang.
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Here’s to Wang having a nice rebound game.. 6 1/3 3 runs.
Go Yanks!
Joakim Noah FAIL.
That was a boneheaded move… fortunately for him they still won.
Wow, the bottom of that line up is dreadful.
Once A-Rod get’s back it will be better. Hopefully Wang can make the adjustments.
Hey pal, Melky hit a HR, okay?
It’s still April, Melky’s favorite month.
Yes, but this lineup’s strength is lots of defense.
Think Joe will flipflop CMW and Andy Pettitte?
Solid move putting Damon as DH and Melky in LF. It was just sad to watch everyone run on Damon’s arm.
Is Damon really a right-handed thrower?
Here’s to Wang being able to keep his sinker down!
…Get your mind out of the gutter, you pervert.
Fan confidence on CMW 1-10 for todays outing..
I say 4.5
i’m confident that wang will pound the zone today
i love it when wang goes deep
You like it when Wang goes deep for you?
im sure he set himself up purposely for that
Really? I had no idea.
From a Cleveland newspaper:
Scout’s eyes: A scout who watched the Indians lose to the Yankees on Friday thought they were going to catch closer Mariano Rivera in the ninth inning.
“I thought Grady [Sizemore] was going to get him,” said the scout. “Grady swung at a bad pitch. Rivera isn’t getting the ball down like he used to.”
WTF?!
Pardon me if I don’t have any reaction to an “anonymous scout” basing judgments off one inning of work.
He has looked fine to me this year.
neither do I but this “scout” seems like a dumbass
I’m sure it was just a writer making an observation, but it was probably a correct one. He wasn’t getting the ball down yesterday and his velocity was down a little. At this stage in the year, I would expect to see those things. We’ll see in a month if those observations are still correct.
Derrick Rose is a man.
Rose is crazy good and is so young. His potential is ridiculous.
Ya man, he just owned it today. Tyrus looked solid too.
Yea, those jumpers he nailed at the end were huge
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My bad.
Perhaps its better if less people see this one anyway.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
The game is on Fox!!
Why God Why!?!?!?
that was a promising sinker
looks like the real CMW finally showed up today
too early,no?
just looking at how the pitches is moving to Sizemore, I’d say no
too early.
That baseball commercial was great. Padres, Twins, Yankees, Red Sox, Angels fans, etc. saying that “They’ll make the playoff,” “Best season ever,” “World Series,” etc.
And then the Pirate fan that says “We’re on the right track.” At least he is realistic.
There’s also a bandwagon Rays fan.
How bout them Blue Shirts?
Eiland has to be s**ting a brick right about now.
Swisher is getting into a fight with a fly out there.
If Wang’s first inning is decent, he will have a good night. The problem is, he is missing high right now. He is up in the zone at least based on what I am following on Gameday.
Common Wang, he called time when you already wind up, you should throw at his head, that’s the right way to play the game
i love Melky. Who’s with me?
For catching a lazy fly ball?
You really hate Melky!!
No Ben! I’m just saying I love Melky. I think last year was just a bad year. I think he can go back to hitting .270+ and playing good OF defense. Everyone here has been so down on him that I was just asking if anyone else still liked him.
Hitting .270 is pointless if his OBP is .320. Haven’t we gone over that already?
Yea dude plenty. God forbid I state an opinion and ask if anyone agrees. Dude, take it easy.
It should be Mo forbid
I’m just offering up another opinion. Everyone’s taking it easy. How can we not? It’s 2-0 Yanks.
I am calm!!!1! lol All of us know your opinion on Melky, Ben.
I saw that!
You and your RAB powers. Trickery, I tell ya, trickery!!
lol, sneaky devils.
RAB Commenting Guideline Rule #10 – No positive comments about Melky Cabrera….EVER!
Hah! We don’t hate Melky. I just want him to earn the praise and prove that he can be at least an average Major Leaguer. He hasn’t done that yet.
EVER!!!
Nick Swisher is such a goof. I love it.
holy shit Swisher is great.
Swisher is the man.
Swisher is da man!!!!
best line-up read ever.
“what’s up?????”
Please, somebody disagree that Swish’s lineup call is the best you’ve ever seen. Come on, I dare you.
Rich Hill once read the lineup as Kip Dynamite. It was pretty awesome.
My roommate and I it sucked. However, it was still the probably the best lineup read ever. The lineup reading sucks overall.
I think the only line-up read I’ve seen on the same level as Swisher’s today was Shelley Duncan’s from a year or two ago where he did in WWF announcer voice
Wang’s release point is still off per pitch f/x. We’ll see how this shapes up today.
I like the way the ball was moving in the first though.
Was it considerably off even on the first AB to Sizemore?
Based on where he was during the summer of 2007, yes.
Ramiro “El Nino” Pena
Ramiro “The Glove” Pena.
thats what I would’ve said
Just like my boy Gary Payton.
SUCKA GOT NO JUICE!!!!!!!!!
Carmona still can’t find the zone, please don’t swing
but that’s good too
Woot Woot!!!!!!!!
BOOM!!!
A text message to right!
Mark Teixeira hits a home run!
The ball has landed outside the field of play!
Mark Teix the spot!
the yankees play in coors field
coors field east
Bud Selig is going to start putting our balls i a humidor…
or maybe most of the HRs have been hit pretty well.
Well hit balls don’t leave the park in every stadium
The Yankees could break their record for most HR’s at home in a season. I have no clue what it is, but its in jeopardy this season.
I’m cringing right now thinking of Sterling saying “Tex message.”
“It’s the top of the 7th, and umm Marte is warming up in the bullpen. Pettitte is at 97 pitches so I guess they will get him out of there. Ooops, forgive me, it is Bruney warming up out there.”
Welcome to Yankee Stadium, where the HR was remade.
Travis Hafner is still in the league? Who knew?!
can’t watch the game the fox station where i am is showing the cubs. How does wang’s sinker look?
Inconsistent right now. Although he’s staying on top of it for now.
inconsistent. Sometimes good and a lot of times bad.
Yikes, one sinker is great, the next is up..
at least Wang’s pitches are registering as sinkers on Gameday. I don’t think they did that in his previous starts.
I rarely use Gameday, but is it reliable?
i use it when I do my homework. Mostly keeps track of the game with a few video highlights. I don’t think the stuff is extremely accurate like pitch f/x or something but it is good enough when you’re trying to follow the game when you can’t watch it on tv.
Here we go
Those were two pretty weak singles. I have faith Wang will roll a double play ball here.
or not
Ugh, WANG
Ugh.
wang’s release point is really messed up. I think they tinkered with it to the point where he is just off.
I don’t really know what to say.
FUCK
This really sucks watching balls fly out of this place like nothing.
I like it, no, i love it.
Is this evidence Joba needs to be in the bullpen?
http://image.maniadb.com/image.....65_1_f.jpg
there goes the game.
I hope you’re not being serious.
DOUBLE PLAY! DOUBLE PLAY! DOUBLE PLAY!
regardless of whether he keeps his sinker down or not, he needs to show some slider, and not get down in the count…
but I’d sign up for the 13.5 era from wanger any day, lol
Two BS singles, then that? Ugh.
Well, glad to see Chien-Ming Wang is reverting to form in the second.
ugh!
Wang fucking sucks
Hughes is TRUTH
Ump is squeezing Wang. That isn’t helping.
i can see it. camera showed burnett… didn’t hit his spot there..
Give me a break.
Is Melky wearing weights around his ankles??
Anthony Claggett will be pitching pretty soon.
pull Wang now!
lets go offense!
Say hello to Mr Hughes
I have been a big proponent of the new stadium… but with these weak HRs being hit out, it’s kind of frustrating. Adam Dunn would hit 80 HRs in this stadium.
confidence at 2
Is the FOX gun reliable?? Cause if Wang keeps throwing high 91 mph sinkers, this is going to be a long game.
at least you can watch the game. I get cubs vs cards right now. Gamecast blows and isn’t updating.
Its a good thing the Yankees dont need a long-man.
WTF!!! Getting ready to smash my TV.
It hurts to see Wang pitch like this.
I realize it’s only the second inning of his third start, but how much time do the Yanks give Wang to work things out before calling up Hughes?
how many more games is he going to get sent out there to fuck over the team before they even get a chance? how can you win games when he gives up this many runs this early
Tomko should be up here. idk why he isn’t . He would probably go 5.1 IP 4 ER which is better than Wangs 3.0 8 ER
Brett Gardner is a better center fielder than Melky, no?
yes
no.
Phil Hughes better start packing.
I can’t breathe!! Oh no, I can’t breathe!!
Guess it’s time to get on the phone to Scranton. At this point, there’s no way Wang can make his next start…right?
Uhh. What?
Send Wang down, hope that he pulls an 08 Brett Myers?
I think you have to give him at least one more start.
But why? It’s obvious something major is wrong from a mechanical standpoint, and he and Eiland already tried addressing it between starts and thought they’d made meaningful improvement (fail). I’m just not sure how trotting him out there again next week is going to help him OR the club.
Why? because sometimes people go through rough stretches. He can’t fix it if he’s not pitching. When Jeter was 1 for 15 earlier this year, he kept going out there everyday at SS even though Pena may have produced better results for a game or two. Wang has a track record, you don’t give up on his after only 6 innings, no matter how bad those 6 innings are.
Nobody’s suggesting that they give up on him. But it’s pretty clear that (unlike in the Jeter scenario) he’s not giving his team a chance to win right now, and he’s got some issues that may need to be worked out in a lower-level pitching environment.
And BTW, the Jeter comparison really isn’t instructive here. You’re drawing similarities between a fourteen-year veteran position player with no sign of mechanical problems and an under-30 pitcher returning from nearly a full-year layoff whose mechanics are totally different from anything we’ve seen in his career.
I know Wang isnt CC, but CC had given up 27 runs through his first 4 starts last year… 3 or 4 starts does not make or break a season. Wang deserves more time to work things out.
hanging slider. for grady
If Wang throws up 1 more bad start after this I’d call up Hughes…
So what do you do with Wang?
Who cares? Put him in the bullpen, send him to AAA, just don’t keep running him out there to give up nearly ten runs in two innings.
time to pull wang
and that’s NOT what she said
If wang blows up, can we just forfeit to save our bullpen?
Honestly, I kind of wonder if he’s gotten in with some Asian mafia or something…
The Boston Taiwanase mafia. For every L he puts up for the Yanks he gets 10 cases of beef noodle soup and 10g’s.
Im not saying get rid of Wang because he is done and is a bum, but isnt it at the point where maybe they should send him down to work things out and call-up Hughes for the time being????
His velocity is down and he can’t locate anything. Send him to the DL and have him go get some confidence against minor league players in extended spring training.
Damn, getting squeezed too?
I can’t believe those seats are effing empty.
So how long till Wang has to work out his problems in the minors?
At least that ball didn’t make it out.
Beware of the Wall
this wind is insane. off-season redesign?
The Yankees team ERA, which was pretty brutal coming into this game at 5.40, is really going to look brutal after this game.
Whoops. Didnt mean to comment here. Actually how the hell did this happen?!?!?!
This is getting ridiculous now.
All right, it really is ridiculous that that ball carried that far. He flipped that off the end of the bat and it hit the wall.
Wow! That ball REALLY carried to the outfield.
If Wang keeps this up, I’m gonna have to let go of that Joba to the pen thing, cause it looks like we need all the help we can get.
One silver lining coming up.
Well, at least we don’t have to worry about not having a long-man in the bullpen after today’s start.
Just leave Wang out there. Don’t warm up the bullpen
I agree. Just give the Indians batting practice. Fans will leave, Joe G will be raked over the coals but the bullpen will rest.
Where have you gone Phil Hughes and Brett Tomko
Our (Yankee) nation turns its lonely eyes to you
\that hit vmart, why is derosa on 3rd?
WTF! that hit him! Are you kidding me
There has to be something physically wrong with CMW. Right now, he’s worse than Kei Igawa
WTF!!! Get him out of there.
I don’t think the Yankees can just send him down. Don’t they have to ask permission from Wang to be sent down?
Maybe put him in the bullpen and call up another starter?
You know, for all the talk of how quiet the stadium is you sure can hear the boos.
I was thinking the same. Go to the bullpen and work this out.
You can put him on the DL for something and then recall him after a few starts.
At this point you just have to blame Girardi for leaving him in this long…after the 1st 3 runs score he gets pulled…he’s throwing watermelons up there!
hindsight alert. you expect starters in the MLB to make adjustments. period
You mean after the two weak singles and the ridiculous pop fly home run. He was fine then… it was what happened after.
Are you really blaming Girardi… this is all on Wang, you cant just take your pitcher out after 4 outs… and expect to win the next few games.
What can Girardi do? The bullpen’s been beaten to a pulp over the last week, and it’s not like there’s anyone he can turn to quickly to stop the bleeding right away and guarantee a multiple-inning performance without totally throwing things off-kilter.
This one’s not on him.
Man, I hate seeing Wanger struggle.
Yeah, seriously. I really felt like coming into this season that he’d be starter #2B with A.J. Burnett in terms of results.
no worries, we have AJ on the hill tomorrow!
vs. Pavano as well.
Wang looks like he might start crying any minute now
In all seriousness, do you send Wang to the DL or back down to the minors (I’m guessing he has options left)?
all you do is have him skip a start. bring hughes up, send a bullpen arm down
I don’t know what the minors will do. He can get minor leaguers out with a moving fastball whether it is low in zone or high.
Put him down to AA, hope he pulls a Brett Myers.
Quick! Hit the reset button!
How the heck do you keep him out there this long. Clearly he has nothing at all so far this season. Either it’s physical or mental. Send him to the DL for anixiety like Willis
I know we are all pissed and disappointed But come on, is there really any point to booing Wang in unison.
yes, Wang is not showing ANY signs of turning around his season, he’s looking like a softball pitcher, speaking of softball, I bet Angela Tincher would pitch better..
Is this a joke?
well at least we might get to see Swish pitching again.
they should pull a phantom DL stint for Wang and let Hughes come up
He’s actually raised his ERA this game. Oy vey.
so no CY for wang this year?
Mr. Wang, you and your 6.00 WHIP can go and take a seat…
Yes, because his ERA is over 30. They haven’t given this guy a long term deal even after he won 19 games, twice for a reason. He was going to blow up eventually. He is a 1 pitch pitcher, and when that pitch is up he gets lit up.
Derek Lowe says hi.
we’re going to win this game.
coors field east, no lead is safe
stealing my line kidd
they need to send wang down… this cannot continue, he is out of his mind…
they cannot send him out 5 days from now.. this is not a 6 ERA this is a 30 + ERA………
What does Claggett throw?
Slider is the best pitch.
apparantly the same beach balls as Wang.
BP fastballs
T- Clag has a little movement on the fast ball eh?
Haha 22 ER in 6 innings. That’s pathetic.
23 ER in 6 innings. More pathetic. This new stadium is a band box, what the hell.
He is done. I don’t care what all you people who like to pretend you know everything by being smug say. He is done. Up comes Phil Hughes.
Why is he done? Because he has struggled horribly in these starts? Or does it have to do with the fact that his mechanics are all out of wack.
lol. He obviously forgot how to pitch. Throw he, Marte and Veras on the scrap heap.
Forgot how to pitch.. I’m not sure if there was sarcasm implied with that but you are totally right. That is exactly what it is.
Actually I think we really should throw Veras on the scrapheap – that guy fucking blows
Listen to me. That cool approach is over with. It was fine to play this way through the first 2 starts. His velocity is down, he has a horribly flat slider, he cant keep the ball down for strikes. It’s over.
Same thing happened to Brett Myers last year, and he came back and was filthy dominate. I know he has sucked, flat out sucked badly and has made this team worse but come on. 3 starts. Stop it with “it’s over”.
I’m not going to stop. Don’t throw other names at me. Tell me why I should believe it is over. Don’t think just because you are keeping faith in him you are any more of a fan than the rest of us who actually have a pair of working eyes and see the man just absolutely doesn’t remember how to pitch. He sucks. Go retool it in the minors, Give Hughes a chance.
Did I call out your “fanhood”? I didn’t at all, so you bringing that up is moot. I don’t have a working pair of eyes? Okay, Joey. In your post, you said “he is done”. Now you say, let him go work it out in the minors? Contradictory statement there, eh? I am all for giving Phil a chance also, but that wasn’t what I was arguing. You told me he is done, I refuse to believe that after this small sample size.
No its not contradictory. I’m not calling for his immediate DFA. Why would I say that? Lets do less assuming and stop over analyzing every word I say. He is done is just my way of saying he is toast and has a lot to work out.
Okay man. I really could care less about this argument with you, I’m just saying you contradicted yourself quite alot in my opinion. But then again, it’s just my opinion. You say don’t over-analyze every word you say but you called me out for questioning your fanhood. Whatever, put to bed in my eyes.
Believe me. I don’t think this is the end of the world nor the end of his career but for people to have this laid back attitude like this problem is going to fix itself extremely pisses me off.
there’s a difference between mechanical problems and sucking.
Well do you not realize that they have been trying to correct these “mechanical problems” that you cite for 10+ days now? I hope the return of his mechanics (which aren’t all that bad so don’t just repeat what you hear) add 4MPH on his fastball and a SH*TLOAD of confidence.
Well, Mo did create the Earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th. So you’re right, 10 days is way too much. This guy is finished.
Don’t throw other names at me. Tell me why I should believe it is over
Those other names are the reason why it’s not over. Plenty of other guys have started off slow, or even terrible, and come back to be effective. Cone gave up 15 runs in his first two starts in ’98 and came in 4th in the Cy Young voting. We can drop names all we want, it’s evidence, which you have none of.
I have none of? The guy is coming off an injury that has left him off a Major league mound for months. His fast ball is significantly slower. His slider is tremendously flat. And his confidence is extremely low. You and all the others who refuse to see it must realize this isn’t just some slow start. The poor guy hasn’t pitched in a real game since that freak injury.
Thank you andrew.
Was CC done after he gave up 27 runs in his first 4 starts last year?
CC wasn’t nearly as bad. He has in fact 13 IP through his first 3 starts. And the results weren’t nearly as ugly. Not to mention they are two TOTALLY different pitchers.
He wasn’t nearly as bad, but he certainly was pretty horrendous. To say Wang is done… it just completely ignores everything he’s done. It’s throwing out years of evidence based off 6 terrible, terrible innings. I’m not saying he’s an all star or going to be a great pitcher the rest of the year, but I won’t ever say anybody is done after 6 innings.
Everything he has done. Exactly. His fastball is 4-5 MPH short. He can NOT keep the ball down. And say anyone is done after 6 innings? How about 6 innings in 3 starts..
I don’t care if he gives up 100 runs in 6 innings over 3 starts. 6 innings does not make or break a career. You have yet to show any evidence that it does. I happen to value his first 630 career innings more than his last 6.
Go read my reply to your last hilarious comment. That’s all the proof you need.
The guy is coming off an injury that has left him off a Major league mound for months. His fast ball is significantly slower. His slider is tremendously flat. And his confidence is extremely low. You and all the others who refuse to see it must realize this isn’t just some slow start.
First of all, I don’t think my comments are that hilarious. I think they are fairly logical. Wang is not the first person to start slow, or to start with mechanical issues, or to have a flat slider, or to struggle from low confidence, or to lose a few MPH on his fast ball, or to come back from an injury. I have not argued with any of those issues. Yes, Wang has been flat out horrendous thus far, but there is absolutely ZERO evidence to say that he’s done. He’s got plenty of stuff to work on, but you keep on claiming he’s done… he’s not.
I hope you’re the GM of some team someday
Why because I have common sense? Wang is clearly in a horrible place. Let him go retool it in the minors. They have important ball games here to win. They aren’t the Pirates, they cant have people “figuring it out” at the show.
I think you have to DL him or send him down. I don’t know what its wrong, but you can’t let him Blass it up in the ML. It’s actually worse for him than it is for the team
Yeah he’s going to lose his cool reserve and that would be bad
Can’t wait to hear people talk about arm slot
Thank god he’s a starter and not a 8th-inning guy.
Time to turn this game off. Now Gardner can’t even hold the fucking ball.
Wow, umm should Melk be in center?
yes
no
Well, this will be loss #6 (can we get 2 games over .500? Please?!?), and Wang will have personally responsible for half of them. I’d like to imagine our record if he had pitched well…
We would be 8-3 right now if Wang pitched well.
were winning this game
Phil Hughes better have his phone charged because it’s going to be ringing really soon.
I thought Gardner was supposed to be good out there..
Hasn’t looked it yet.
this fucking sucks
This is pathetic….
Few thoughts on CMW:
1. Pitch F(x) still has the release point all over the place, but I actually thought he looked a lot better out of the windup today–talk about really reaching for a positive. But just catastrophic out of the stretch.
2. This park is gonna be awfully tough for guys who pitch to contact–I love CMW, but even before the start of this year his GB ratio has been steadily declining from the obscenely good to the merely pretty good, and that’s ominous even when he gets straightened out.
3. That said, as Ben, Mike and Joe say all too often, Wang didn’t go 54-21 (or whatever it is)by throwing belt high sinkers at 89-91. He’s very obviously not right, really to an alarming (bold statement, huh) point. I’m not a knee jerk guy, and given that I don’t think they’d be running him out there if there was any thought he was hurt, I think Wang is going to get back to more or less normal form, but they can’t run him out there for his next start, they just can’t. He looks shattered out there.
4. Very touching moment when Joe took the ball–gotta feel for CMW.
5. Nice freaking play Brett. Really? What’s this guy’s ZR/UZR looking like? I’m not giving up, but man, not what I thought I was getting.
If AJ and Pettitte can start every game, we are good.
I can’t say I know the first thing about air streams, wind currents, and what not–but the jump on the ball in this park is frightening. Only been 3 games of course, but man, was it Francisco who got jammed off the end of his bat and hit the freaking wall?
I cant imagine how many runs the Indians would be scoring if they had come into this series actually playing good.
Girardi is in a bind. The bullpen is worn out.
3 words. Nick Swisher.
Has the crowd called for him yet like they did in the opening day loss?
Yes
at least we get to see this great slider claggett has!
I’d kiss the ground for a 9 ERA from Kennedy right about now…
can carl pavano pitch for us instead of wang….just hope the fence to our bullpen and warmup
arite heres to a 7 run run comeback!
Just an onslaught.
DL Wang for Suck-balls-itis in his right shoulder. Bring up Hughes.
Gardner is getting toyed with right now.
well, we are pace for 18 runs…so if the bullpen can hold it, we’ll win.
They are paced for 45 and counting…
Please, no salami.
Where is the best slider in the organization?
Wang’s ERA must be reaching 50.00 real soon.
We’ll look back on this game in September as the low point in the season…
We will look back at this as the low point, and then realize Wang pitched again 5 days later and we will all sigh in unison.
there has to be a long man brought up tomorrow. I know he has been pitching really well but what happens if AJ (Mo forbid) has a bad start and gets pulled early.
Girardi can’t send Wang out there again next week. This forces the rest of our starters, especially AJ and Andy, to not have a poor outing because the BP is already over worked from the night before.
You’d think the fact that we’ve needed one 3-5 times already this year would open someone’s eyes, but I guess not.
33.00 to be exact..Joe buck just said itll take wang about 10 really good starts to bring it down to anywhere near earth ….so possibly around the All-star break we may be lucky to c wang’s era dip to the 5s..
This is funny.
LALALALLALALALALALLALALLALALALALLALALALALALALALALALALALALLALAFUCKKKKKKLALALAL
;(
So Claggett is even worse than Wang?
awesome.
Muthafucker. Why does the ball carry so much?
Am i in the twilight zone right now.
That was a fly ball out in the old Yankee Stadium.
Move these walls back!
Seats be damned! Move them back.
Sign Godzilla to play RF?
I’ll be here all week!
New Yankee Stadium should not use a baseball, they should play with a wiffle ball.
Fuck you Tim McCarver.
And fuck you John Buck!!
Did Mccarver just laugh a few times. Fucking asshole
can they construct some kind of wind baffle to keep the stadium from being a joke?
Great not having a long man
Clagget must not be one of those lively arms we have down at the minors, right?
Today, my favorite baseball team gave up 13 runs (and counting) in one inning. Fuck my life.
You know a loss is a loss, but assuming the Yankees dont pull off a miracle, this will be the 4th loss out of the 6 where they give up 10 runs or more. Plus this ballpark is a joke with all these cheap-ass HR’s. I dunno what my point is, I just need a drink….
Wait two hours. You have to harness your drunk. Its Saturday, I am getting stupid tonight.
Hey at least these kids have some good cotton candy
Hope the Yanks have an alternative squad of engineers on the payroll–no excuses for the BP that’s being thrown, but the jet stream in right is obscene. Like pay millions of dollars to do whatever smart people do to slow that shit down obscene.
This stadium is ridiculous…can we borrow a humodor
If I were at this game I would ask for my money back…
Wonderful. I love these quick massacres.
oo my fucking god.
This is HUMILIATING!!!!
Well this game was fun guys i’m going to the bar.
Mercy rule should be implemented.
Just imagine how the ball will be carrying come summer.
Okay, so bringing up a rookie for clean up duty was smart, how?
Way to Trost, you built a softball field.
Make it stop!
Thanks.
The Yanks have officially built a launching pad, they have to first close off the small openings between the AD’s and the seats, to stop the wind channels, right off the bat. And probably make some other modifications, because this is ridiculous.
Can we forfeit..?
I think we call up Hughes for the next start and let Wang fix this in the minors. He has options and Hughes would get one extra day rest so it works out.
Is it too late to institute a mercy rule in Major League Baseball?
So I guess it’ll be Hughes in the next turn of the rotation right? If not where the hell do we go from here. He can’t possibly make another start until he gets his shit right.
This is a Carbon Copy of game 1 of the Rays series, except, it’s much much WORSE!
Not that its possible, but if the score remained, I think our offense can avenge. Maybe I’m just crazy, but yeah this game is embarrassing just like every other game Wang started so far
I’m with ya M-rod.
Let’s not worrying about the win. Just worry about the bullpen having some pride and throw 7 innings and end this game.
Does the scoreboard register triple digits?
I step away for 10 minutes and it’s looking like a 2nd round K.O. when I get back!
As much of a guess I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue type of game this is–I’ve gotta say, my biggest concern today is the park, not the team. The team, even if they get beat 100-1, will be 6-6 and given that they never had a chance in 3 of them, I can live with it today. Not by any means a sure thing, but that problem is potentially as simple as getting Phil Hughes here asap. But man, that park is just gonna be crazy tough. Makes the addition of two strikeout guys and Joba firmly in the rotation even more huge. Of course, Arod and Tex are gonna love life. But I’m not sure I see a place in this park for guys who don’t miss alot of bats.
Sports Center highlights will be fun tonight.
Well, if Claggett has the best slider in the system, I’d hate to see the second best….
well put…very nice
bring Austin Jackson up already who thought of bringing up claggett that was stupid hes back down by tomorrow
How was it stupid? They had it on point, they only brought him up for Wang insurance. Hopefully he goes 2 more innings and he did his job for today. They weren’t expecting him to be a mainstay.
Use a few periods and commas before calling others stupid.
so peavey or halladay anyone? … im automatically conditioned to think outside the organization due to my teams habit of doing that for the past 9 years or so
I don’t know if you’ve looked at the standings, but those two might not be available at all if their teams keep this up. No way Peavy ever agrees to pitch at this bandbox…
Hey you have the right idea. I happen to agree. What package do you think we can put together to aquire a Peavy .. Halladay aint comin. But the Padres aren’t getting rid of anyone until there out. We have a while to go
Sure, I’d love Halladay. Odds on the Blue Jays trading him here? Approximately zero.
Peavy’s got a full no trade…no way he wants to go from petco national park to the softball field they built in the bronx. He won’t ever agree to that. Toronto won’t send Halladay to the bronx, I think Bedard may be the best guy available we can get.
That was honestly the most embarrasing thing I’ve ever witnessed on a baseball field.
Sign Kenny Powers!
Congratulations to Anthony Clagget and his 81.00 ERA and CMW and his 34.50 ERA. They must be the best starter-reliever combo in the majors.
Can we get a humidor? Or alternately switch to wiffle balls? I did not sign up to be a Rockies fan.
Commenter from ESPN: “wow this must be an MLB record for most pts in an inning of play!!!!! ”
DUMB SLUT
DUMB SLUT
Well said.
Cano just hit the exact opposite of a home run.
i was just about to comment on that. 5 homeruns and we get a grounder…FUCK IS AROD
Claggett was a mistake. He was brought up for a situation where Wang couldn’t go 5. I guess we’re more worried about Scranton’s record. Why isn’t Tomko or Kei here?
If the wind is really shooting into the outfield that crazily, couldn’t they just glass up the openings that go through the concourses to the outside of the stadium?
With the way the new stadium is playing, at least we can be sure Arod will break the all-time HR record…
Comments like this, I like. Great job, CBLL. Find the positive, we don’t need to read what Wang and Claggett’s ERA is. We don’t need to hear how these games suck. I like to hear the positive, and you did it!
Thanks, but that is the only positive thing I can say about today’s game.
2009 Wang and Claggett make 2008 Ian Kennedy look like Walter Johnson. Positive!
Keep it up fellas!!
Nick Swisher is handsome! Did I just say that?
Ahh, shit.
I have another one: Pavano is pitching for the Indians tomorrow.
Maybe the Yankees should do what the Bills do and split their home games between two stadiums: When we pitch Burnett and Sabathia, pitch them in this Yankee Stadium. And when Wang pitches, have him pitch in the Old Yankee Stadium.
*** Old Tiger stadium*
Polo Grounds?
Lake Michigan?
I wonder if the Yankees actually ever dreamed that this stadium could be a launching pad — because they might have a serious, $1.6B problem on their hands
We go 1, 2, 3. Hahah.
It’s pretty easy to go 1-2-3 and 2 of the 3 are melky cabrera and bret gardner
This is scary. They could put up around 30 on us today.
Bang Bang Bang!!
And here we go again…
I love it when Wang just sets us up for historic comebacks. They probably had a pre-game meeting or something, you and Clagget let up 14 runs, and bam, we’ll show why we’re so great. Send this in to extra innings for the fans.
Until they turn around and say “hey, where are all the fans? It looks like this place is 30% empty…”
How many batters were up in the second inning…I think I’ll count…I got 17…that’s pretty bad. Pretty. Bad.
so not having a long a man is about the dummest thing Cash/Girardi have done!!!, it makes no ffreaking sence,..you have plenty of options in the minors and you bring up Clagget!!..stupid plain stupid
I hope your typographical errors are due to haste.
bring back guidry to get wang’s shit together
If only Joba was in the pen, this wouldn’t have happened.
/insanity
could have came in during the 2nd and given us a chance to come back. oh that important 2nd inning
You’re so right ZOMG
When Cleveland came into this series, they were all hitting like .220 — now they’re all hitting like .340.
… Yankees pitching says “you’re welcome”
this series single handedly will give Sizemore the MVP award.
Wang’s ERA 34.50
Claggett’s ERA 81!!!!
Crying – priceless
I have to watch this on Gameday — did it really look like Wang was gonna cry when he was gettin shelled?
No, he just looked perplexed.
ok my bad. Maybe it was just me crying.
81 ERA???? That’s higher than my grandma’s age!!!
I usually don’t curse online, but what the fuck!!!!
i expect the yankees to score 10 today if they think they can get away for playing like pisspoor spoiled millionaire bitches. i’d slap all of them in the face for stealing money from us fans and overpricing EVERYTHING. screw this bullshi
and when the Yankees win you’re the self-proclaimed biggest die hard yankee fan ever
stfu dude. i’m just letting out a little steam.
and so am i
Yankees lose- I hate them, they’re all overpaid
Yankees win- woohoo no one better then us, WE won today
okay, and i clearly demonstrate this behavior because i am obviously one of those fans with my irrational angry behavior. seriously get off your high horse dude.
this kind of performance is unacceptable and the yankees deserve the full shitting, whether its me or you. maybe you aint a real fan if you aren’t too pissed about this game.
They would then proceed to give you a whoopin.
heh. it’s impossible how unpissed some of you are. i’ve been coming to this blog for 2 years now and im not surprised that there are many levelheaded people here… but jeez. look at this season! we have all waited months for THIS crap the yankees are calling baseball? i hope nomaas owns you all
After a loss, we’re .500. There are worse things in the world than Wang getting shelled 3 times in a row.
its about the GAME dude, not the season. FIFTEEN to TWO and its not even the TOP of the fourth inning. Cleveland has 15 more outs. RIDICULOUS.
so are ne of these fukn cleveland players gonna hit a grounder ..their all hitting with authority.
you could hit those pitches with authority… those yankee pitchers are just not that good (at least the ones playing today)
i wanna hear posada’s postgame interview
that will be one unhappy catcher
“Damon had a smile on his face cause his sister just had a baby. (Looks into the camera and points) Let me tell you something, Johnny, if you ever fucking smile again during a game like today…..
I bet he laughs….NOT – Borat
The new Yankee Stadium friend to opposing teams. No menacing fans to intimadate you b/c the seats on the field are empty and the ball flies out.
aghhhhhhhh. i hope claggett stays in the game for like 4 innings and gives up another 10 runs. i need someone to laugh at today
The way this field plays they could just remove the 3 outfield spots and then they can have 3 extra spots on the roster for pitching!
So Wang kinda sucks right now. Is it too early for the team to consider sending him down to work this out? The way he’s pitching they just can’t keep sending him out there.
The score is 14-2 with two touchdowns for Cleveland and a safety for New York. It is a two possession game for New York.
Wait a sec, isn’t it baseball season? Usually the box score only has a 14 when a team scores two touchdowns. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?!?!?!?!?!
it’s swisher time.
I guess Swisher might have to put that 0.00 ERA at risk.
another 10 runs is becoming more and more realistic
As much as the ball seems to be carrying, it’s not like anyone has been locating the ball in these games. I’m still hesitant to jump on the Coors East thing. Those HRs yesterday were legit, and Wangett can’t locate for crap today.
agreed. the pitching asnt been that good at all.
lol at least Ransom looks ready to go!
LOL
Hopefully, Claggett can give the Yanks one or two more innings.
..at least A.J on the mound tomorrow won’t make the pitching staff look like a complete joke. i’ve given up hope on this shitshow.
So who gets called up for Clagget tomorrow???? Which relievers are on the 40-man???? I would hope they would call-up Tomko but I assume it would mean they would have to make further roster moves.
Apparently the net behind home plate is the least of the issues of the architectual mess the new Stadium is. Bad tv angles, obstructed view seats, MASSIVE WIND TUNNELS!, and the like. You get a show in Yankee Stadium, even the most corporate know what a home run is.
RAB, can we change the title of this thread. I was thinking, “Oh brother…”
Well the record is 36 runs scored in one game by a team. Let’s see what the Indians can do.
almost halfway there!
Well 2 things are clear, (1) the Indians can hit and (2) our pitching staff has some big holes right now
What the hell was happening in Spring Training? How do these guys come into the regular season and just shit the bed completely? How?
mainly one big hole. Joba and CC have shown that they can pitch well, well wang hasnt made it out of the 2nd. its not the bullpens fault they have to throw 8 innings every fifth day because of wang.
I heard Erik Wedge is sending up his daughter next inning as a PH.
We need to send down pena and ransom and melky and bring up robertson, hughes, and tomko…our pitching staff is in complete and utter shambles. this game mades me throw up in my mouth and embaressed to be a yankee fan living in boston.
Maybe someone should tell our guys to hit the ball in the air. It carries about 350 feet.
claggett’s ERA is starting to get as low as Wang’s — given that he was at 162.00 a little while ago, this is impressive
This thread’s closing. Move the game thread action to this post.
Get outta here, long way to go.