Game 12 Thread II: Wang is wrong

Game 12: Brother, can you spare some pitching?
Instant Analysis: No release for Wang

Anyone want to be that Phil Hughes takes Wang’s place next week? The Yankees have to figure out what’s wrong with Wang, and right now, everything — from release point to velocity — is off for the Wanger. An ace he is no longer.

Game 12: Brother, can you spare some pitching?
Instant Analysis: No release for Wang
  • Spaceman.Spiff

    We send Wang down, bring Hughes up, have Wang work on his mechanics in AAA. Once the pitching coach is satisfied with what he’s fixed, we bring Wang back up. No biggie.

    • Evan

      You can’t send him down to AAA. He needs to go on the DL for that to happen I think.

      • Spaceman.Spiff

        Make up a phantom injury then.

        • Drew

          We can just say we broke our Wang.

      • Accent Shallow

        Why not? I believe he still has options, and he doesn’t have enough service time to refuse the assignment.

        • J

          Wang was a super 2, does that change anything?

          • Accent Shallow

            No, it doesn’t. You need five years service time to refuse a minor league assignment, and Wang isn’t quite there.

            • J

              2010 is his last year of arbitration but he will have had less than 5 years of major league experience… is he still a FA?

      • Joey H

        But can’t a player willingly go to the minors?

    • Gerry K

      Excellent analysis Spaceman. You took the words right out of my mouth. Our bullpen can’t keep absorbing these short outings. Otherwise, they need to keep a long man in the pen for both Wang and Joba.

  • Joey H

    Hey. I’m sure he’ll figure it out. Let’s give Hughes a chance. I doubt he can be any worse.

  • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

    we suck dude we need to trade 4 peavey holliday and jimi hendrix this pitching staff stnks and we need those guys

    • Drew

      ZOMG!1!!

    • Joey H

      *Peavy.

      • Drew

        I’m pretty sure he did that on purpose, Joey.

        • Joey H

          That’s lovely.

          • Spaceman.Spiff

            Lol, JoeyH

  • http://eastrutherfordrant.com donttradecano

    *Wang

    • Drew

      Wang doesn’t rhyme with wrong.

      • http://eastrutherfordrant.com donttradecano

        im pretty sure wong and wang are pronounced the same

        • Drew

          No Chien-ming’s Wang is pronounced wong. But, generally wang is pronounced wang. We can keep this dialogue going though, anything to keep me from looking at the TV screen.

  • J

    OMG. Thank GOD Pavano isn’t in today to rub it into our faces…

    • 27 this year

      yea we better annilate him or I will kill someone.

      • Joey H

        That is a bit to the extreme is it not?

        • J

          i will kill someone too.

          • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

            Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?

            • J

              i will kill wayne brady.

  • BigBlueAL

    Well in a positive note, the person Im playing this week had Wang on his pitching staff. Safe to say Im winning the ERA and WHIP categories this week.

    • Thomas

      I have Sizemore on my team, so I guess that is good.

  • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

    Games like this suck, but they do happen. At least 5 or 6 times a year. So Wanger got 3 out of the way, better to get them out of the way early……I guess.

    • J

      i think we’ve had three of these happen…

      against the rays, o’s and the indians two days ago. and now this.

      That’s FOUR.

  • Spaceman.Spiff

    Start warming up, Swisher.

  • Drew

    Usually I’m very mad when this happens. Today I find myself laughing in disbelief. I wonder why Igawa and Tomko aren’t up here. Oh yeah, 9-0.

    • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

      They’re going for the record down there in AAA.

      • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

        That might be the reason they don’t want to send Wanger down.

  • Joey H

    Who pitches tomorrow? AJ? Hopefully he can be just as brilliant. And then Pettitte to follow? Same thing goes for him. We need some depth into games.

    • Evan

      Yea but it’s not fair that it falls on these guys week after week. Something needs to be done, Wang can’t keep getting run out there every 5th day hoping one time it clicks. He needs to be taken out of the rotation until there is enough confidence in him and in himself to get the job done.

  • BigBlueAL

    Melky and Gardner have run about 5 miles each so far today chasing balls in the outfield.

    • Joey H

      Yeah. Well if the ball goes over the fence like it seems to love to do then we don’t have to worry about that problem.

  • Rally Caps?

    When does the wrath of Joe Girardi manifest itself?

  • Rally Caps?

    also it is always a bad sign when you have used 3 times as many pitchers as you have hits

  • BigBlueAL

    Hey Edwar isnt wearing his goggles.

    • Drew

      He found that they weighed him down too much.

      • Joey H

        So now instead of weighing 124 pounds he can weigh 123.

  • J

    not ramirez… this score can easily balloon again…

  • Joey H

    Can a player volunteer to go to the minors? Say Wang does the admirable thing and wants to go down to straighten his stuff out he can right? I know the whole options situation may restrict the Yankees from forcing him down but he can go willingly right?

  • B.George

    They should have had Wang start the seaon on the DL..he hasnt pitched since June and you expect a guy to come back and be a top of the rotation guy…he shoulda went through extended spring training and have rehab starts in the minors to work on mechanics and arm strength

    • Joey H

      But nobody foresaw this in all fairness to him. We’re you anticipating him being absolutely horrendous? Definitely not.

      • andrew

        Agreed. He looked fine in spring training, there was no need to put him on the DL at that point.

  • Rally Caps?

    next inning it’s time to tell the indians to f* off and throw one up and in on … whoever… Sizemore

    • Accent Shallow

      You can’t hit someone just because the pitching’s been awful.

      Give me a break.

    • radnom

      Why, what did they do wrong?

      Its not their fault that our pitching sucked today.

  • Thomas

    Edwar is getting ready to give up the granny.

  • J

    the yankees have been thusly outscored 60-74 this season.

    • TC

      Based on my quick calculations the Yanks have given up 37 runs in their worst 5 innings and 37 in the other 97 innings

      • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

        Ietc.

  • Joey H

    And how don’t you just take your chances and throw the ball down the plate? It’s not like this is game 7 of the World Series by any crazy extent of your wildest imagination.

  • John

    I go shovel the snow and I come back to see them score 7 more runs and its bases loaded with one out!!!!!!

    • Mike

      wow, snow? today must really suck for you

      • John

        no not snow…blizzard here in Denver, though now we’re in the tail end.

        • Mike

          oh denver, that explains it.

  • Infamous

    Melky to pitch next inning? That would be interesting

    • Joey H

      Yeah since he finds everything funny.

      • Drew

        Everyone loves to hate the Melkster.

    • Thomas

      I think Damon would be more exciting.

      • Joey H

        Not like his arm is of any value anyway.

  • John

    Gotta commend Girardi for wisely using our quota of being blown out early in the year.

  • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

    Honestly, I blame A-Rod.

    • John

      Yea, he would have been a great mop-up guy.

    • Thomas

      It 16-2 in the top of the 4th. These are the game A-Rod shines. He’d have like 19 HRs by now, so we’d only be down 8 instead of 14.

      • andrew

        because Arod’s hr’s only count for .4, duh.

        • Steve H

          They count for 5 runs in innings 7-9, of course he never hits them then.

  • Drew

    Good work Edwar.

  • J

    Ok RABers… so what are the yankees problems this year…

    X is hurt, so our bench weakens…
    Matsui is done, our bench and starting lineup weakens…
    Wang is not himself, but we have backup in Hughes, IPK, MexGangster, Tomko (the professional wrestler!)
    Third base has been a mess
    The Yankees offense has only been flowing because of the bomb, Swisher and Cano

    We could easily be under 500… by a LOT.

    • Joey H

      I read the first part of your little comment and if you think the injury to Nady is the highest prioritized problem then the rest of the post isn’t worth reading.

      • J

        i didnt do it by priority… just put it there randomly.

        • Joey H

          Well that is the first thing that came to your mind then. Believe me the X injury isn’t the worst possible thing that could have happened to this team.

          • Spaceman.Spiff

            …He never said it was.

            • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

              I know. Joey H, you told me in the last thread to not over-analyze, yet that is all you’ve been doing.

              • Joey H

                How? he put it first. I am giving my take on the Nady situation. I am actually surprisingly enough happy that Nady went down so Swish gets to play every day without hurting any feelings. You were nit picking what I said and blew it up into something I didn’t mean.

                • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

                  Believe me the X injury isn’t the worst possible thing that could have happened to this team

                  He was stating what has happened to this team already. Also, you ask how? You called me out for questioning your fanhood last thread, which had nothing at all to do with what I wrote.

                  But, I wash my hands of this particular conversation because I know everyone is on edge because of this game.

                • Spaceman.Spiff

                  He put it first and then clarified that he was not ranking those in priority. No matter what you think, Nady going down is a net negative effect for our season.

                • J

                  “I read the first part of your little comment and if you think the injury to Nady is the highest prioritized problem then the rest of the post isn’t worth reading.”

                  so what did you mean by that..

                  also why the hell are you posting about something you didn’t even bother to read.

                • Joey H

                  Because I can and if you got a problem with it don’t post stupid stuff. And Mike what do you have a man crush on me or something? You follow me around critiquing every comment I make. Just stop already its not cool or funny.

                • J

                  damn and i thought i was a troll

            • Joey H

              Please. Go scratch. Is that necessary? He is talking about problems that by the end of the year will not be problems. Probably any sooner. So just please.

              • Spaceman.Spiff

                ??

              • J

                well you may be right, but if those kinds of things aren’t analyzed… well then places like RAB would have no use for existence. enjoy yourself a little more dude. i think we all are still optimistic about the yankees but they have serious, serious problems

                and even more… jeter is actually helping the defense. imagine once he starts going to his mean…

                • Joey H

                  I am enjoying myself. However I would be enjoying myself more if it were 2-16 instead if 16-2. I’m just trying to tell you Nady’s injury isn’t all that big of a deal.

                • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

                  I’m just trying to tell you Nady’s injury isn’t all that big of a deal.

                  Can you please elaborate a bit on this? I think it is absolutely a huge deal. Whether it was him, Damon, or Swisher. I thought losing any one of them was going to be a huge blow to this team because of the durability concerns and just the overall depth was nice.

                • J

                  nady’s injury is a big deal man. it takes away our best bench player (whether its him or swisher) and then replaces with cabrera…

                  you go from a positive win contribution to a negative, just in that respect.

                  then there’s replacing cabrera’s spot with someone even further below replacement level. maybe miranda can do something. who knows.

                  oh, then there’s the issue that nady could’ve been traded. we basically gave up tabata, karstens, ollie (and someone? i forget) for Marte. talk about lopsided trades.

                  dude know what you’re talking about (i sorta thought you did)

          • Steve H

            Though the X injury is worse than some of the other things on the list. 3b is a mess, but A-Rod is on the way. Wang is a mess, but there are other options. Nady, if he’s out for the year, is a pretty big loss as there is no great replacement for him. We all knew Ransom was going to suck, and if A-Rod had been deemed out for the year, they likely would have made a move. We have expected some of the AAA guys to get some starts due to injury/ineffectiveness, which could happen soon. What we didn’t expect was our starting RF to get hurt in the first 2 weeks of the year and probably miss the season. When put into context, the Nady injury is pretty serious, as it was unexpected. Though as Mike Pop said, I think it’s worrying too much for right now. They’re right around .500, no reason to panic.

    • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

      Eh, I think you’re worrying way too much. Wang has been the only SP struggling really bad so far but yea, it’s early. Bullpens are so up and down so that’s not a huge problem in my eyes. A-Rod is coming back, I think the Yanks will be fine.

  • Joey H

    So anyway that Celtics Bulls game was something today.

    • J

      Would you say D Rose has a quiet confidence or just looks like he doesn’t care?

      Regardless, Rose is going to awesome. I hope Stern pulls off a Ewing/Rose and gets the 1 or 2 pick to NY so we can nab Griffin or Rubio…

      • Joey H

        I would say he looked neither. He was remarkably quiet. He went there did his job and did it damned well. Good for him. Their post defense is terrible though.

      • Thomas

        They need the number one for next year (John Wall). Ewing and Rose were uber prospects (as is Wall), Griffin will be very good but isn’t at the prospect level of the other two. This year we just need to hope for Brandon Jennings, Harden, or another talented player to fall to them.

        Also for the love of God, the Knicks better not draft Curry.

        • J

          wall said he’s going to school saying it’s his dad’s wish.

          and why not curry? its reported he still has an inch to grow (looking at growth plates) and maybe more…

          harden is too soft and too weak.

          jennings would be nice but why do i just smell another telfair, marbury, selfish point type of player? i could be wrong.. but jennings has some serious, serious talent.

          • Spaceman.Spiff

            Telfair is not the selfish point type of player. Just not as good as he was hyped up to be.

            • Thomas

              The funny part about Telfair was he had all the hype (MSG and the movie), but the scout really didn’t even like him that much.

          • Thomas

            I know Wall said he going to school, but he will still probably declare after next season. Hence we want number 1 next year.

            Curry can possibly be a good player, but I doubt in D’Antoni’s system. He can’t dribble and pass well enough to be the PG in D’Antoni’s run and gun offense. He can’t get his own shot, isn’t athletic, isn’t a great driver, and can’t play defense. He is sort of like JJ Reddick, but worse. Also, he is too short for the two, which would be his ideal position.

            If Curry gets into an offense were he just takes spot up jump shots and runs of screen like Reggie Miller or Ray Allen, he can be an effective player. However, with his lack of height people want him to play the point.

            Also, .463/.408, .483/.439, and .454/.387. Those are Curry’s FG and 3P percentages, which are exactly great for a player who only major skill is shooting.

            • J

              the knicks pick is automatically utah’s.

              • andrew

                why?

                • Drew

                  they put that deal in last years trade and it wasn’t conditional. I reckon.

              • andrew

                what trade is that from?

        • http://eastrutherfordrant.com donttradecano

          theyd need to make a trade, because utah owns their first rounder next year.

  • Drew

    Maybe Wang needs FloMax.

  • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

    Mo, I hate this Joe Buck and Tim McCarver.

    • Evan

      Joe Buck is a very energetic announcer. Tim McCarver hates the yankees because they fired his ass after ’95.

      • Joey H

        They are both horrible. Buck even admits he has no idea what he is talking about.

  • Steve H

    To make matters worse, my fantasy team is off to a 0-25 start today. Almost impossible, but unfortunately true. I certainly don’t have any Indians.

  • Bill

    Losing Wang basically means that our bullpen has to also make up for whoever replaces him, at least if they don’t trade or sign someone.

    • Drew

      Did we lose Wang?

  • Drew

    The guy from Fringe!! that was creepy.

  • http://www.new.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/profile.php?id=594331910&ref=name Jamal G.

    Heh, is that guy from Fringe in character right now?

    • Drew

      I was waiting for an explosion or some catastrophe, that was weird.

  • John

    I would say Wang can’t do any worse next time but I think it’s very possible he can. How do you raise a 28+ ERA to 34.5?!!!!!!

    Claggett’s ERA is scarred for life too.

    • Joey H

      Can’t do any worse? Why find out? Let him go straighten it out.

  • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

    Rally baby!!!

    • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

      We will score 5 runs this inning..but the bullpen will give up 5 more.

      /Debbie Downer alert.

      • Thomas

        It the number one killer of domestic cats.

  • Drew

    Swish is smiling!! Alert the media!

    • Evan

      Posada will not be happy.

  • J

    COMEBACKKKKKKKKKKK

  • BigBlueAL

    How can you not love Swisher.

    • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

      Your name is Kenny Williams.

      • Steve H

        Or Ozzie Guillen.

        • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

          Ray Allen, he was awful today, aay?

          • Steve H

            Very. But not too concerned. It’s tough watching with KG out, knowing that they don’t have a legit chance at winning it all. After the title last year it’s tough to root for a conference finals appearance. When they made it in 2002 it was amazing because it was unexpected, now they’re coming off the title and lose KG, it’s hard to get excited. That, and David Stern has obviously mandated a Kobe-Lebron finals, no matter what.

            • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

              Ya. Losing KG was a killer, it hurts to lose him right now for you guys. I think a Lebron-Kobe finals is something to look forward to, but I’m not counting out the Magic pulling an upset on Cavs. 2002 was a fun year if I remember correctly, against the Sixers then the Nets. Antoine Walker became Mr. moneyball three pointer.

              • Steve H

                Speaking of Antoine, who I always loved, I met him at a casino in Vegas the other night. Really nice guy. And yeah, 2002 was a blast, the 4th quarter comeback against the Nets was ridiculous, even more amazing than the comeback against the Lakers last year, because the Nets were the better team, but Pierce put on an all time performance.

                • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

                  Ya, I remember that year quite vividly(big Nets fan). You get some hookers and blow with Antoine?

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Nick Swisher = Champ Kind

  • Drew

    C’mon Melker!

    • Drew

      Great AB right there.

  • Evan

    Grand slam Brett Gardner. What happened to his power he had in ST?

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      No 30mph wind today.

    • John

      it was the magic of ST

  • John

    So how many guys who were sucking horribly in Spring Training/WBC/the games played before the one played against us pitched a gem or had a pretty solid start against us? I think its at least 3 or 4 now (Lee, Carmona, Guthrie?, and who else?)

    could it be that we are not taking them seriously and end up losing our focus and struggle?

    • Joey H

      I guess it’s a matter of getting settled in. Lee Carmona and Guthrie are all good pitches for the most part. I guess it is the whole Yankees are coming to town mentality that gets them pumped.

    • Drew

      I’d say no. I mean if Wang had his sinker doing it’s job today we wouldn’t have said that about Cleveland.

  • jimbo

    The only consolation we get is that Boston and Tampa Bay are playing worse

    • Evan

      Just hope this is the worst we see it all season. The only saving grace in this matter is that it’s April. Imagine this was happening to us in late August, early September? I would be pulling my hair out. Right now you kid of have to take it on the chin and keep going. We will work things out, cause you gots to have a little faith brotha.

  • BigBlueAL

    Even in a blowout the Yankees cant get a hit with RISP!!

    • Evan

      When it rains, it pours.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    I just got home and turned the TV on. I don’t even want to know what happened.

    • Evan

      Wang pitched another gem. Claggett did a clean up job. We can’t hit and this ball park is a bonafied wiffle ball field.

    • Joey H

      Well Wang had a no hitter through 7. Jorgey and Cano went deep twice each. We’ve been slaughtering them salivating at the idea of whacking Pavano tomorrow.

    • Drew

      Turning the TV on was your first mistake.

      • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

        Heh. Who’s got the time machine?

    • E-ROC

      Lets just say that the new Yankee Stadium is not endearing itself to the players and Yankee fans.

    • John

      at least you did not have to experience it live! Good Mo the pain was unbearable, did you notice a some of the commenters have left, they all got heart attacks/strokes

  • John

    At least calling up Claggett saved our pen 1.2 innings…

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Michael Strahan is going to be on a NASCAR show on the Speed channel (in a little while)

    Today is Alternative Universe day.

  • Sweet Dick Willie

    Wang’s next start is Friday in Fenway, but we have an off day on Thurs, so Girardi skips him, right?

    • B.George

      absolutley especially with Burnett going.

  • Joey H

    Why are we walking batters in a 16-2 ball game? Throw the god damned ball over the god damned plate. What more can happen in all seriousness?

    • Drew

      Edwar is trying to throw strikes.

      • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

        At least Edwar looks good.

        • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

          Heh, spoke too soon.

      • Joey H

        Trying? Try harder. In all honestly it isn’t that hard to throw the ball over the plate.

        • Drew

          He’s a strike out pitcher not a mop up guy. His changeup must be thrown low. It’s not like he’s a contact guy. Don’t take out your anger on Edwar!

          • Joey H

            If I say A you say B. If I say C you’re going to say D. So you win are you happy?

            • Drew

              Broski, you take this way too seriously. I’ve actually been agreeing with you on a lot of the things you’ve said. We’re both on RAB during a blowout, is there any point to arguing?

    • Spaceman.Spiff

      Fly ball homeruns? Doubles in the gap?

      • Joey H

        And who does that hurt? Nobody. The dugout and whoever is left in the crowd is in a numb state. So go throw the ball over the plate and lets try to get this one finished.

        • Spaceman.Spiff

          Hurts his ERA, makes the score look worse. Who gets hurt by walks if you don’t get hurt by homers and doubles?

          • Joey H

            That is what happens . Grand Salami. With no men or 1 man on base just throw the ball over the plate.

        • Spaceman.Spiff

          Yeah, throwing them balls over the plate is really helping get the game finished. At least he was K’ing guys along with his walks when he was nibbling. He’s throwing BP if he throws it over the plate.

          • Joey H

            Okay. So you if you throw the ball over the plate there is a much better chance of getting it over with rather than walking batters. There is zero chance of getting out of the ball game by walking batters. At this point it just comes down to the game being over so we can just get this shit over with and forget about it.

            • Spaceman.Spiff

              Okay these are the real outcomes with Edwar. He throws the ball low, off the plate trying to deceive guys to swing on his changeup. This either results in a walk or a strikeout. As you can see by his work today. The other option is that he throws the ball over the plate. This usually results in a hard hit ball since it’s either a mediocre fastball or a changeup left up. The number of hard hit balls that get turned into outs are very low especially with the wind in this stadium. At least when he was nibbling he got K’s, he’s not a guy that induces outs via contact, don’t try to make him sound like that kind of guy.

              • Joey H

                No it’s a 20-2 game I dont care if he’s jesus christ. Get the game over with already.

  • Evan

    Girardi is looking at the match-up card. He’s going to bring in bruney to face the right hander.

    • http://yankeesmtom.com Steve

      Ha

  • Drew

    Should we be expecting a rash proclamation from Hanky?

    • John

      Nah, he’s just watching his new toy work out a little kinks.

      Had we been in last place though, oh boy…………..

  • http://yankeesmtom.com Steve

    Think the Yanks can pick up Milledge?

    I wanna see Melancon and Tomko/Aceves up in the majors tomorrow. Maybe Miranda for Matsui too.

    • Joey H

      I hope you are being sarcastic.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    So much for “we have too many players, no one will be called up this year.”

  • Evan

    Minus Wang (terrible right now) and Claggett (1st MLB game), we would be in this game otherwise.

    • LiveFromNewYork

      Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?

      • Evan

        It was goooooood.

    • John

      well, if wang had been good, he’d stil be in here

  • Evan

    Girardi must think he is a genius for calling up Claggett. He didn’t anticipate a Claggett 1.2 IP outing though. Next time he needs to call up a Claggett like pitcher for Claggett also.

    • Joey H

      I’m still scratching my head wondering why Tomko isn’t up here yet.

      • Drew

        Seriously..

        • Joey H

          I mean really. Lets face it. We don’t know everything but the guy is basically being wasted down there closing games for a minor league team. Not only should he of made the team out of the spring but COME ON.

  • B.George

    what was the point in sending down robertson calling up miranda for a day and then sending down miranda for claggett?

    • Joey H

      It’s called smart managing? Haven’t you caught on yet? lol.

    • Evan

      Girardi forgot that Wang was pitchiing today and he was probably going to go 1 inning.

  • Drew

    Poor Edwar, I guess he’s not a long man. Who’d a thunk it?

  • Joey H

    If I’m not mistaken didn’t they bet the Yankees 22-0 a couple years ago? And now I am rooting for DeRosa. He’s on my fantasy team.

  • Joey H

    And I am having major concerns. This park is worse than Citizen’s Bank park.

    • http://eastrutherfordrant.com donttradecano

      im pretty sure it has something to do with the pitching too. they have 20, the yanks have 2… its not all the park.

      • Joey H

        Well how about yesterday then? 5/6 runs came via the long ball. You don’t have to be a Yankee hating FOX announcer to realize this park is a bandbox.

  • Drew

    Way to leave him out to dry Joe. Maybe he can go three more innings.

    • Joey H

      Who else do you want him to throw out there? Everyone is burned. It’s another day of taking one for the team.

      • Drew

        I was thinking along the lines of… Mex gagster, alfredo, tomko, igawa, just to name a few.

        • Joey H

          Oh gee they are on the 25 man? We are making good with what we have today. Unfortunately good isn’t even “bad.”

          • Drew

            My point was, don’t take this out on Edwar. This is Wang, Joe’s and Cash’s fault.

  • E-ROC

    Ah, that was fat pitch. Straight down the middle.

    Mike Pop, we just might see 30 runs scored on the Yankees. That’s a frightening prospect.

    • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

      Is it really the ballpark that is that bad? Would most of these Hr’s been outs? Come on Wedge, man, take out your starters lol. Jerk.

  • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

    Where’s Scott Proctor!!!

  • J

    what a sad day

    worst is, i dont have any beer or bud to make myself feel better.

    • dkidd

      i’m drunk and stoned and the game still sucks

      • Drew

        ietc.
        No alcohol nor drug could shock me back into coherence.

  • John

    20 hits, 20 runs

    2 hits, 2 runs

    Both team are incredibly efficient with their hits, having as many runs. Too bad we aren’t efficient with men on base.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Man, Yankee pitches have thrown close to 170 pitches and it’s not even the sixth yet.

  • Drew

    Cash and Joe really botched this one.

  • J

    lol pity strikeout

  • The new Yankee Stadium sucks

    This place is gonna be awful to watch a game in…can they make the walls 20 feet taller?

  • E-ROC

    Good strike called by the umpire. He’s ready to go home.

  • Bob Michaels

    After the game the Yanks will send down Claggett and call up Aceves.

  • miketotheg

    I blame girardi. He let those youngin’s blow our season last year and he doesn’t have the cojones to send down wang and tell joba to shut up and pitch the 8th. Or maybe keep wang in the pen until he can get outs. Our WHOLE bullpen is full of minor league starters! Pretend its september and start calling these kids up. Throw enough mud on the wall and something will stick.

    Honestly tho I think girardi let’s cashman and player’s agents dictate to him. I miss torre.

    • Joey H

      Yeah because Torre who is notorious for blowing out arms in the pen would TOTALLY solve the problem. Redirect to here : LoHud.com

    • Drew

      I must say I’m happy this is the first (hopefully last) comment of yours that I’ve seen today.

      • Steve H

        Just today? I’m hoping ever.

        • miketotheg

          riiiiiiiiiight.

          who wants to go to the playoffs every year? let’s have girardi do what he’s told and play games off of resumes. he just plays to the payroll while EVERYONE ELSE demands results. Then we can play the blame game in october AGAIN while torre’s team is in the playoffs.

          Let’s talk again after wang blows his next start and our bullpen in the process.
          go wanger!

  • Joey H

    Where is TEHH ROCKET ROGER CLEMENS?!!?!?1?!?!1?!?1

  • Phrancis

    Want my money back if I’m sitting in one of those expensive seats.

  • BigBlueAL

    The Baseball Gods are straight pissing on the Yankees and laughing their asses off in the process.

  • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

    Aww McCarver, you can just go to hell!!!

  • J

    ummm also why is yankee stadium so empty for a saturday day game?

    • Joey H

      ummm lets try because the score is TWENTY TO TWO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Drew

        nah there were mad empty seats while we were winning.

        • Joey H

          Not quite like that. C’mon man you don’t have to blow smoke up my ass. You know the park definitely emptied out. It was a packed house before compared to what it is now.

          • Drew

            Oh yeah believe me I know it emptied out more. RAB did a story on the empty seats yesterday though.

            • Joey H

              Not everyone can afford a 2,000$ ticket. I get it.

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    I’m just watching this game in utter disbelief. This wouldn’t even be funny as an April Fool’s joke.

    Only positive thing is that we will be roughing up Pavano tomorrow.

    • John

      Mo willing

    • J

      nope. i smell a solid outing from pavano tomorrow. sad for the yanks.

      • Sweet Dick Willie

        Oh yeah, there’s a ton of evidence to back up that statement.

        • andrew

          There doesn’t need to be evidence for a statement like that, only a broken heart..

  • John

    What’s the thing where you get tortured to make up for your sins?

    Does watching this game count?

  • J

    why couldn’t gardner make that play a few innings ago. jeesh.

  • BigBlueAL

    That ball wouldve been a triple against the Yankees as Gardner wouldve dove and missed it.

  • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

    Alright fellas, keep it at 20.

  • Joey

    Just got home. Jesus this one is ugly. Just have one question, did Cap’n get taken out because of the beat down or is he injured?

    oh and btw, Grady wouldn’t have had to dive for that

    • Drew

      beat down

      • Joey

        ok thanks, I’ll take that as a mini consolation prize

  • Drew

    OMG Matsui getting practice swings in!? dude this is not the minors.

    • Joey H

      No what pisses me off is in a 20-2 game you run a guy out there who Girardi himself said was “worried” or something to that nature about Matsui’s situation with his knees.

  • Drew

    Should he really be running off of fluid drainage?

    • Joey H

      Exactly my point in my reply to your last comment. Now that just makes no sense.

  • E-ROC

    All the Yanks need is 19 runs. They can still win this thing.

  • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

    Joe Buck, you go to hell too.

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

    It could be worse. I don’t know how but I guess it could, right?

    • TC

      I think we need to take comfort in the fact that it can’t get worse than this. Hopefully we’ve just witnessed rock bottom for the ’09 Yanks.

      • John

        or hopefully rock bottom for the whole life of YS since the 2nd was the worst inning we’ve had in our history giving up the most hits and runs.

  • Phrancis

    This must be the worst ball park in MLB. Worse than Citizen’s and rangers ball park.

    A blue monster on the right field would be nice. Or else none of the premium free agent pitcher wuld want to sign with the yankees. And both CC and AJ might opt out after 3 years.

    • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

      And both CC and AJ might opt out after 3 years.

      Take it easy Phrancis, ya know, just sit the next few plays out.

      • Joey H

        Since when did this site turn into Lohud?

        • Phrancis

          Alright..wise guy!!

          • Joey H

            Besides. Does AJ even have an opt out? I doubt it.

    • http://eastrutherfordrant.com donttradecano

      CC doesnt like NY.

      • Joey H

        Like it or not. He has 161 million reasons to stay here.

  • southernyankeefan

    Does Wang throw pitches after he leaves the game? If not even if they do run him out there next time how far could he go. He hasn’t thrown that many pitches. anybody know his pitch count from the first two games he pitched??

    • John

      well, he’s pitched only 6 innings so far.

      • southernyankeefan

        i know but he has still thrown some pitches he threw 52 today. i guess what i was getting at even if he was right would he be able to get to 90-100 pitches without getting worn out.

        • John

          yea, i know what you were saying. But i was just saying that all I know is that he’s pitched 6 innings. My bad, it was a bad way to say that.

  • GoGo Platter

    Oh God, I think Tim McCarver’s head just exploded.

    • LiveFromNewYork

      That would be a good thing.

  • Pedrucho

    Joe Girardi should’ve have done a better job today. Dude, if you see that the guy is getting smacked around, take him out of the game before it’s out of hand . Something is clearly wrong with Wang.

  • Sal

    This is y edwar doesn’t pitch important innings. He’s meat

    • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

      I love what these kinds of games do to fans.

      • Drew

        Nah Sal was saying it yesterday too. He has forgotten Edwar’s 50+ games last year.

    • John

      umm, he’s a relief pitcher but not a long-man. His pitch count was in the 50s when gave up those homeruns.

  • E-ROC

    Yanks showing off their versatility.

  • http://8thinning.blogspot.com VO

    Who do we have left in this bullpen?

    • Joey H

      Some sunflower seeds and Gatorade.

  • J

    ok so we have 3 more innings…

    if veras is in for this and the 7th… whos in the 8th and 9th?

    • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

      Jose Molina.

    • Drew

      Marte, Coke, Bruney then Mo.

  • Joey H

    So would it be smart for me to release Wang on my fantasy team?

    • Drew

      I’d say no. Gotta stick to your guns! Just either don’t start him next week or hope for better results.

      • B.George

        I would def release him

        • Joey H

          Sarcasm? Or seriously.

          • andrew

            I wouldn’t release… give him another couple starts.

            • miketotheg

              as long as he records an out his era wont be infinity, keep him in your rotation. he’ll be fine for his next start. :P

        • Drew

          If Wanger doesn’t win 16 games this year, I’ll be shocked.

    • http://8thinning.blogspot.com VO

      He’s not helping you right now.

    • J

      depends on who you’re replacing him with.

      wang’s not a good fantasy player anyway.

  • J

    omg a WALK? just throw it down the middle already.

  • B.George

    If you were stuck on an island and you had to choose to watch a game that is announced by McCarver/Buck or Morgan/Phillips/MIller who will you watch?

    I think I will drown myself before having to choose.

    • J

      LOL. i’d pick espn’s crew… miller is the best out of all of them and i can easily drown out noise if necessary.

    • Drew

      I’d find a volleyball and call him Wilson.

    • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

      Why did you put the island part in this? Am I in the Bahamas? Why would I be watching a game in the Bahamas? Cause if I were on an island that had cable, I had to be at some kind of resort or somewhere nice with some chics, right? I think I’d be drinking on the beach.

      • J

        so… you would rather kill yourself then listen to them eh?

      • Drew

        What about Long island?

    • John

      or you could just chill on the beach

      • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

        Same thing but shit man, who is going to catch?

        • http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00mwbIM15ofMv/340x.jpg Mike Pop

          I mean ump, obviously. Damn, a blow to the head like that.

  • Drew

    Good heads up catch by Jose.

  • J

    that sucks. a blow out and that happens to the ump…

    those kind of blows can easily cause a concussion.

  • J

    lol. veras is going to be confused.

  • 65hughes

    PHIL HUGHES PHIL HUGHES PHIL HUGHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

    • Drew

      ietc. It fit in well with your name somehow.

  • 65hughes

    THE YANKS SHOULD OF BUILD THE NEW STADIUM LIKE PETCO

  • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops
    • Joey

      lol thank you for killing 5 minutes of not having to watch the Yankees game. That fat kids getting laid by all the girls at his school. Coincidentally he probably has bigger man-boobs than all of them

      • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

        You’re welcome. I probably watched this 30 times already today. And it’s still insane.

  • dkidd

    what happened to the ump?

    • Joey

      Foul tip straight to the mask, cracked it in half (or so the amazing Fox team is reporting). Seems okay though

  • Joey

    In other news, Lincecum looks like he’s got his mechanics straightened out. Beast.

  • BigBlueAL

    I was just thinking, with the way the new Stadium plays, Arod even with missing the games he will miss could break Barry Bonds’ record this season. Both the single season and career record.

    • LiveFromNewYork

      perhaps in one game

      • http://eastrutherfordrant.com donttradecano

        And be unclutch all at the same time

  • http://8thinning.blogspot.com VO

    That’s it!

  • Drew

    But Melky sucks!
    Yeah, I know you all still hate him.
    I love Melky.

  • BigBlueAL

    Melky wants his CF job back!!!!

  • Chris V.

    They need to give it to him. I can’t take gardners noodle arm much longer.

  • Drew

    The hot dog champ is coming in. This is just embarassing.

  • 65hughes

    nah if melky is hitting hr then the new ys is softball field

    • http://eastrutherfordrant.com donttradecano

      nah, its april. melkys power month.

  • http://8thinning.blogspot.com VO

    Wow that dude that’s filling in for PeteAbe makes sense, some of you guys should go check it out.

    • Joey

      Wow, you’re right. Commen sense over at LoHud, who woulda thought?

      “UPDATE, 5:49 p.m.: I know I’m not Pete Abe, but after reading your comments I have some thoughts.

      First, one loss, even one this bad, isn’t the end of the world. The Brewers lost today, too. And whether you lose 1-0 or 16-2, it’s all the same in the standings. If the Yankees have any pride, and you know guys like Jeter, Posada, and Swisher do, they’ll come out tomorrow and thump Carl Pavano around the way he deserves to be.

      Second, Claggett deserves a little slack. Yes, eight runs in 1.2 innings is dreadful. But we spoke to the kid before the game and he was clearly wide-eyed. He talked about driving into the city last night and seeing the New York City skyline and how “it hit me” that he was in the majors. I’m not saying you should ease up because he’s a nice guy. But he got thrown to the wolves in the second inning in a total no-win situation.

      As I wrote that, by the way, the Indians just tacked on a couple of more homers.

      UPDATE, 6:24 p.m.: What would be worse? Losing by 18 runs today or getting beat tomorrow by Carl Pavano? Just curious.”

      You know Pete would have just been inciting this riot more

      • Raf

        he was making sense until this.

        UPDATE, 6:37 p.m.: They’re doing the YMCA and the crowd is really into it. It’s reason No. 4,582 that the real fans are on this blog and not in the stadium.

      • Drew

        An RABer must be filling in.

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ Artist formerly known as ‘The’ Steve

    I have an extra ticket for tomorrow’s game, anyone want to go?

    • BigBlueAL

      I would if I didnt live in Miami.

      • Drew

        Word.. Where in Miami do you live? I went to JWU and lived in Hallandale Beach.

  • BigBlueAL

    After seeing the way the new Stadium plays, ARod might be so horny to play here he could be back on Monday, if not already on a flight to NY to face Pavano tomorrow.

  • Bryan

    I haven’t seen a worse game since the Helsinki Incident of 1919.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=15305165&ref=profile Doug

    Heh, I’m in Michigan, so my Fox affiliate is showing the Cubs/Cardinals game. The outfield is full of seagulls. They descend on Wrigley Field after day games to feed on the scraps of food left in the stands. But, today’s game is moving so slowly that the seagulls have showed up, and, having nowhere else to go, they’re all hanging out in right center field.

    • Joey H

      “Heh, I’m in Michigan, so my Fox affiliate is showing the Cubs/Cardinals game”
      God bless you and your FOX affiliate.

  • Joey H

    Well who else is comforted by the fact that by the end of April the only thing left in the bullpen will be Mariano, some sunflower seed shells and Gatorade cups?

    • Drew

      At risk of not agreeing with you, Mo forbid, what about Bruney?

      • Joey H

        Alright then I’ll revise it, Bruney Mo sunflower seeds and gatorade. But you get my point. They are going to be BURNT! Totally sucks.

  • Joey H

    I know this might be beating a dead horse but wouldn’t it be nice to see Melky start in the stadium against RHP sometimes? I’m impressed with how fast his bat has been on those two monster swings over the past two days. He did have a good spring too.

  • TC

    Not his knees!

  • John

    “I’m impressed with how fast his bat has been on those two monster swings over the past two days.”

    He’s been swinging better, but that was hardly a “monster swing” on that last HR. It barely got out in right, I believe.

    • Joey H

      Call it what you will. You get my point. It’s been a rough day okay. Can we just call it a monster swing to make me happy?lol 20-4!!!!! lol

      • John

        Sorry, sorry

        • Joey H

          No but in all seriousness. He doesn’t look lost at the plate. And if he can just sneak them by out in right it’s worth starting him.

  • Nick

    Let’s go, put Swisher in to pitch again.

  • http://8thinning.blogspot.com VO

    Veras’ 3rd inning, Marte for the 9th?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Jose Veras as been the Yanks most effective pitcher today. Go figure.

    • http://8thinning.blogspot.com VO

      But I thought he sucks?

    • Drew

      It had to happen someday. He’s not as bad as he’s been, even though I still dislike him.

      • Joey H

        He really isn’t that bad. but when he is that bad it is just very dis encouraging. I take that back. There goes a HR. But then again. 1 home run by today’s standards is like throwing a nono

        • Drew

          True, I’m always afraid when he comes in, but even I know that the guy has talent and can and will be effective over the course of the season.

          • Joey H

            He needs to rely less on deception and more on throwing quality strikes. The stuff is there.

            • Drew

              True, I wonder if he can work on his delivery. I know the run on his fastball is part of what makes him effective, but maybe if he cut down on the movement a little, he’d be able to control it more.

    • Spaceman.Spiff

      Didn’t we DFA that clown?

      • Lanny

        No. Veras still sucks.

  • Drew

    Example # 4 of today why 1 inning relievers are not effective after 1 inning.

    • Chris

      You’re right, Wang was good his first inning. We should have him in the 8th.

      • Drew

        True? I’m not sure you got my point. Tomko/Igawa/Aceves.
        Good try on the sarcasm but you’re a little late to the party.

  • http://8thinning.blogspot.com VO

    Is it me or are these fans jerks/retards/losers chanting “we want swisher” yea it was funny the first time give it a rest.

    • Drew

      Yea, they definitely wore it out already, but at least they’re still there.

      • http://8thinning.blogspot.com VO

        You have to really question why they are still there though. Is it cause they are true fans or because they are all big business men who spent big bucks on a ticket and don’t want to leave.

        • Drew

          The businessmen are gone. The people like us that would be chillin watching the game drinking a brewski are still there.

          • Drew

            After all, we’re still watching and we didn’t even pay. lol

        • LiveFromNewYork

          only true fans are there at that point. The fans who say f it, it’s Yankee Stadium and I’m staying.

    • Joey H

      Now just because you say that, it will be a year long thing as long as the pitching sucks.

    • LiveFromNewYork

      If you’re suffering through this game at the Stadium I say you’re entitled to say whatever you want at this point.

  • GoTerpsGo

    Wow… You know it’s bad when Washingtonpost.com has this game as their front page story. *sigh*

    • LiveFromNewYork

      My phone is lit up with texts from Mets and Sux fans. I am not even reading them.

      • Drew

        Sox fans shouldn’t be saying anything. The Mets, well, they’re the Mets, so who gives a shit what they say!

        • LiveFromNewYork

          Thanks dude. You saved my wrists from a date with Schick.

          • Drew

            If your going to do it. Do it with pride and don’t use Schicks. Let’s be real here. lol

            • LiveFromNewYork

              I only am not slicing my wrists because the color of blood will remind me of the Red Sux. I mean, who wants to go out like THAT?

              • Drew

                You my friend, are a true American and a scholar.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    I thought that the blowout the other day or maybe another one was the one where we turned this all around?

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Time for Roger Clemens to un-retire goodness gracious

    • http://8thinning.blogspot.com VO

      Did he ever retire?

    • Drew

      We need one of those calls by susan waldman to get us energized. OMG IT’S ROGER CLEMENS IN THE OWNER’S BOX!

      • LiveFromNewYork

        GOODNESS GRACIOUS!!!!

        • Drew

          haha, that’s what it was. I knew it wasn’t OMG.

  • southernyankeefan

    here is a little comic relief. wait for the last guy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThZ98ytDeNI

  • Drew

    Another good AB by Melky, I think that’s three today.

  • Joseph M

    Getting this back to Wang, the Yanks will have to check him from head to toe (MRI’s the works) and then deal with it in one of two ways, he goes on the DL if something is found, or he goes straight to the minors if nothing is found.

    I don’t think this is a release point issue, I think there are more serious issues here, Wang’s 2009 Yankee season could be history.

    • LiveFromNewYork

      and after today throw in confidence and mental stability

  • Drew

    Before we all bash Marte. The man threw strikes.

  • http://8thinning.blogspot.com VO

    Come on let’s RALLY!

    • Drew

      /Golf Clap.
      Well done.

  • Drew

    We should try to take a positive out of every ball game.
    On that note, RAB’s servers held up well with consistent and fast load time.

  • LiveFromNewYork

    Wall Girardi Girardi Wall

    I would not want to be him giving post game interviews. I would just let all the media watch me smack my head into the wall for 5 or 6 hours

  • Lanny

    Wang and Veras are going to ruin Scrantons season now.

  • Drew

    Great, no postgame today. Mo forbid some fans enjoy seeing the players and managers reaction after watching a game for 4 hours.

    • Zack

      Do you really want them to talk about a 20-4 game for another hour?

      It’s going to be the same answer from each player, “Wanger was just off today, we’ll get him straightened out”