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Game 19 Spillover Thread
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Well that was too easy…
Whos up for the ol’ reverse rooting? GO TIGERS
Anyone see this?
http://www.theonion.com/conten.....=a-section
History, my friends. History.
Now that’s a new market the Yankees can explore, besides Japan and Latin America.
or if your ace sucks
That was an inning where they really needed to run up his pitch count, Heh. Show time for me. Later folks.
That registration thing sounds better with each passing game
My guess is people would just register & troll.
Some would, but it would definitely be less than there is now.
Especially the trolls here. They are just determined.
They’re like supertrolls. It’s like we managed to fight of all the weak ones, and the only ones left are the most determined, stubborn, and persistent trolls alive. Same thing happens with soap that kills only 99% of bacteria.
http://foresthowl.files.wordpr.....01/305.jpg
does that make me a mexican swine troll?
Angry Axl ?
Yeah registration doesn’t seem like a bad idea after all. Get rid of some trolls.
and your minor league system sucks
LOL.
’nuff said.
Heh, you I like.
tell us something we don’t know at least. show some humor
Jorge is really blowing this game with his pitch calling.. We should have started Molina.
It may not be fair, but Eiland may have to call his realtor.
Well, he was hired based on his rapport with Hughes, Kennedy and Chamberlain. Hughes and Kennedy both had about 2 good starts apiece last year, and Chamberlain has been inconsistent so far this year, and hasn’t looked as good as he did last July.
Not to mention, the veterans haven’t exactly looked stellar.
I’d say it’s fair that Eiland is on the hot seat.
Girardi is a goner before Eiland is.
I am willing to bet you a cheap Baseball Reference sponsorship that if either Girardi/Eiland is gone this year, it’ll be Eiland first.
What do you say?
I hope this isn’t one of them 8 inning complete games for CC.
looks like it was
at what point do they semi-rebuild? get rid of all the dead weight, roll the dice and try something new
10 years from now when A-Rod’s deal is up and they have 31 world series trophies.
the eternally optimistic pop. giving a-rod 5 titles in 10 yrs.
wow
The hottest teams in April always go on to win the championship … oh wait (the yanks will be fine)
getting buried in april doesn’t help that championship cause
Pena, the new starter.
Brilliant play all around. Too bad he was safe by a mile.
Can’t complain with a gift every now and then…
You like to get that gift when it makes a difference in the game. At this rate, we will score about, um, 0 runs this game.
wow
lose tonight. lose the next 2 and girardi is gone
yup
How long have you been a Yankee fan for?
life – 30 yrs
don’t you think they have to at least give him a couple weeks of having ARod back before they decide to do something like that?
You must be a misery to watch the game with. Dude, save that attitude for football, when there are only 16 games (maybe 18 next year). This is baseball … it is a relatively relaxing sport. You should not be all gloom and doom for every game. Especially in April.
“Confidence just decreased from 8 to 6″
Mike Pop says:
April 27th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
I can’t wait to they get ridiculously hot in May, June, and July and you’re right here cheering them on, saying how you love this team and love watching games. Same goes for you, Axl.
Shut the fuck up, putting me in the same category as a troll. I’m a Yankee fan dude.
Calm down.
Whoa there. Let’s all be friends…
Heh. Okay.
Just because you’re a Yankee fan doesn’t mean it’s false.
It is wrong, because i’ll be rooting for the Yankees whether they go 9 – 153. You’d be lying to yourself if you said your confidence remained the same since April 4th.
Actually, I’ve been at 8 in every single poll and no, I’m not “lying to myself.”
Lohud called, they want their cute little name message thingy back.
In the words of George Costanza talking to the whale:
EASY, BIG FELLA!
It was ten stories high if it was afoot.
Does anyone else wish that Hanky would get wild on the Yankees? I miss Big Stein..
What would that accomplish? Some comic relief?
What did George accomplish?
With his outbursts? Nothing, except making a few fans feel good and giving the rest of the country a good laugh at our expense.
Believe it or not, some players actually took it to heart. When you perform like shit in some situations, it’s not a bad thing to be called out on it. That’s my opinion anyway.
Name one.
Jeter? Jorge? Obviously I don’t talk to them but when George went all crazy on them, Jeter would be like he’s right. I’m not saying it will change anything. Maybe you’re right, it makes some fans feel better. I’d like to read something in the Post tomorrow.. Just my opinion.
This isn’t football. Motivational techniques like that only work so well.
Yes it is, I heard Mike Fat-cesa say today that making Joba a starter is like turning an pass rusher into a blocking back.
Well, some teams will occasionally use a pass rusher as a blocking back. Maybe Joba can relieve on days he’s not starting?
Too bad no one actually does that anymore.
Maybe Joba can tackle the umpire.
Not particularly, no. I wouldn’t be too upset about a coaching staff shakeup, but I don’t think it’s necessary. Too early to say Girardi needs to be gone, and I’d prefer to avoid any panic trades.
6. Nick Swisher, RF
7. Melky Cabrera, CF
8. Jose Molina, C
9. Ramiro Pena, 3B
I wonder why they can’t score?
It might be because Verlander is on tonight.
Oh, you meant something else?
Molina and Pena both have hits tonight.
To be honest I just looked at the line-up here and said they have less then runs.
Just turn on the TV and more pain.
But I am being unfair to those guys.
Barry Zito could throw a 5 hitter with that bottom part of the order.
Mike, seriously, step away from the game threads…
We’re turning into a Twilight Zone episode.
http://www.veoh.com/browse/vid.....938YzdAx6a
This one.
i agree about the april thing but if any team ever had to get off to a fairly good start it is this one. after all the $$ and after the way the team has gotten worse every single year they had to make a statement. the statement they are making sucks
Reply.
I prefer my teams to make statements later in the year, rather than blow our load in April, and slowly fade. Tex is a notorious slow starter, as is CC, and A-Rod has not even played a single game. We have only played 6 home games, compared to 13 on the road. This is just about the worst time to evaluate the team and most likely will not give you an accurate reading on how the year is going to turn out.
Hey, all you folks calling for Girardi’s head, who you gonna replace him with?
Me.
Billy Martin
I wouldn’t fire Girardi yet, but there’s Tony Pena or the guy who used to wear #23.
How generous of you! You gave him April with a .500 record!!!
That’s how I roll.
Mattingly is a disaster waiting to happen. No experience and he’ll be thrown right into the fire. So he was a great player, big whoop.
Hmmm, Bobby V?
Better.
What do you like about Bobby V that you dislike about Girardi? About the only difference between the two is that one’s a Yankee, and the other one isn’t.
He was the runner up for the position, which indicates that Cash thinks highly of him. If he had a veteran pitching coach, I think it would mitigate the experience factor.
Everyone has to start somewhere, and Torre’s apparently been grooming him to be a manager someday. I can think of worse people to learn under than Torre, certainly.
(Although if Mattingly paid attention to Torre’s bullpen moves, yikes!)
“Everyone has to start somewhere”
Right, let him manage in Cincinnati for 5 years so we can see what he can accomplish. You don’t start at the top.
Bobby V has his plane ticket ready
the guy who used to wear #23.
WHY ON EARTH do you think Michael Jordan can manage teh Yankees? That’s absurd!!1!one!!
Teixiera? A player-manager, what is this the 1930′s?!?
I didn’t realize that my post would turn into a projective psychological test. NTTAWWT
Mr. Belvadere
They obviously think they can mangae better than Girardi. They should. And maybe they’ll pull off a Lions and have a winless season.
Joe TorreDon MattinglyWillie RandolphDon Zok you win Rebecca. Who?
Man. Jose Molina took that one like a champ.
Jesus Christ I thought he was dead.
I was at a minor league game last week where the ump took one of those in the head, they had to wheel him out on a stretcher.
That didn’t feel good at all
I mean how can you tell me this team is any good right now and I’m wrong?? How many times are we going to give the other teams starting pitcher (who’s been ineffective for a long time) credit saying he was great and that’s why we didn’t hit. It’s ridiculous. Stop with the excuses…the team is in disarray and it’s quite embarrassing…
okay… verlander isn’t just pitching awful; he is an awful pitcher. happy?
Yeah, and Boston’s prospects are amazing…and Cliff Lee was the best ever after stinking up the joint…and Carmona was incredible…
I mean get a pulse guys…take the glasses off..there’s a whole world out there
Give me a break. Justin Verlander has absolutely fantastic stuff, and he’s had great command today. It’s not like they laid an egg against Horacio Ramirez or someone of comparable quality.
i dunno…record? are we near .500 with our best hitter 1800 miles away? and #2 pitcher getting physical and mental rehab twice a day?
it’s ok, back away from the ledge, i just checked: bus still has 9 wheels…
that is jose’s money arm!!!
Be nice if we can at least get some men on and knock Verlander out of the game. I have a feeling we will, at the very least, make this game interesting before it is over. Get it together boys, put something together.
It’s not Verlander!!! We can’t hit!!! We looked the SAME EXACT WAY against Boston’s new prospects on the mound yesterday…
Everybody is just pitching amazing against us all the time? Gimme a break…
Yeah, that scrub Josh Beckett destroyed us, too.
Damn, that ball hits me like it hit molina I’m in ICU for three weeks.
ICU?
ICWUDT.
intensive care unit?
No, I see you.
we all have the right to bash them – they are a bunch of millioaire losers — and we all have the right to get onboard when they start winning again but to blindly love everything they do is ridiculous. THIS TEAM IS EMBARRASSING
THANK YOU! EXACTLY! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG. There should be absolutely NO excuse for this kind of playing with all the money and stardom involved…NONE
It would honestly be quite fucking hilarious to see you two as a fan of teams not named the Yankees. Playoffs all these years, they miss it last year and are having a rough start this year because two key players are missing and others are struggling. I love it, really do. Imagine if you guys were Braves, Athletics, Mets, or my mo, oh my mo, even Pirates fans!!!11!!!! Holy shit, you two would of locked yourselves in rooms with padded walls already.
You two are selfish. Josh – reply button, please.
Why would I do that? The Braves and Athletics don’t spend half a billion dollars each off season to perform the same every year and have the same flaws year after year.
Pretty bad analogy…
The point is, they would struggle. Which would lead to you jumping off a cliff. To do what the Yanks have done the past 14 years is pretty damn impressive. Very unfortunate that they have not won a W.S. because of some bad moves and bad luck whether it’s admitted or not. But, man. You would never be happy. That’s how it seems to me.
Of course it’s impressive. But I live in Red Sox country right now and I don’t think you understand how annoying it is. You wanna know why I’m always angry?? Try living with these heathens everyday…
I live in Sox country, and I’m not complaining like Polly Pussypants every day about how this is the worst team in the history of baseball. 98 Yankees were 1-4 and I’m sure you were on the side of a bridge then too.
we all have the right to get onboard when they start winning again
This made me laugh. When did you start rooting for the Yanks? 1998? 1999? Oh the torture of this horrible team, how dare they embarrass us by being .500 in April.
He claims since the 70′s he was a fan. Complete BS though. I bet he can’t even name a player from the 70′s…
Who cares? What are we 12? You either like a team or you don’t. It doesn’t matter how you like them. I watch every single game. Some people don’t. I don’t rub it in their faces like a 2 year old though. I bitch and moan and that’s what I do. If you don’t like it…tough shit. I’m not you. And I’m glad that I’m not.
If you’ve been a fan since the 70′s and you’re really complaining about the team right now?
I call bs that he’s been a fan that long.
Under .500 in April after this game. We might as well be honest with one another here…
what was our record in 98 at this point? or last year?
its fun to whine a little, but in the end we still need to root for the team…
having said that, Teixera’s a bust
1998 the team was like 15-5 through it’s first 20 games. We’re going to be 9-10 through 19?? I don’t see the similarities…
didnt we start the season like 1-6 thought?
if you watch the games and bitch you are still a fan. if you think they are great when they suck you are a moron. have been die hard for my whole life. through the 80′s and all. just because you know this is embarrassing doesnt mean you cant cheer for them if they turn things around
Could have said it any better myself. The rose colored glasses are thick on this site…but if you squint you can see a little bit of reality i think in your peripherals
he claims since the 70′s. who are you the fan police? first of all, it doesnt matter how long you are a fan. i was born in 78 and have always been a yankee fan. that doesnt mean i am a better fan than anyone else who cares about the team. what does matter is that this team has real problems
Haha it’s amazing isn’t it? The team performs like trash and everybody makes up excuses. They’ve been doing it for years now. There doesn’t seem to be any end in sight. Arod is going to come back…ok. Unless he hits a home run every at bat it’s not going to help the rest of the club…the SP sucks..the bullpen is even worse which is hard to believe…and the hitting is patchy. The team is bad. No excuses necessary. They aren’t good. Can they come around and do some good things? Sure. But I don’t see it coming any time soon…they look THAT terrible right now.
sp doesn’t suck, per say. it is inconsistent, per say
Arod is going to come back…ok. Unless he hits a home run every at bat it’s not going to help the rest of the club…
That might be the dumbest thing you’ve said yet.
MA: if you’re going to say it ‘might’ be the dumbest, i challenge you to find something he said that competes with that sentence…
CC hasn’t looked bad tonight. He’s had two really hard hit balls, and one of them just got over the fence. He’s scattered six hits over eight innings, and he hasn’t walked a batter this game. You can’t expect the guy to go out there and beat the Tigers himself. He needs some help out there.
But its Girardi’s fault!!!!!!!11!
Girardi’s like Canada – everyone is blaming him for the Yankees problems. What about Kevin Long? He’s the hitting coach, and shouldn’t he be finding a way to help some of these guys hit?
Yes is doing the player of the game in the 8th again…maybe it will work against the Tigers just like it worked against the yanks
Bleich dealin’ tonight- 6 IP 3 hits 1BB 6k.
Pena for MVP
Fucking right Pena
Struggling pitchers around the league must be chewing at the bit to get at the Yankees lineup. Our line-up is the best medicine for a pitcher in that situation. Maybe Wang can pitch for the opposition.
THEY ARE SCORING OVER FIVE RUNS A GAME. THEY JUST PUT UP ELEVEN RUNS TWO DAYS AGO.
Just seems that if you are a STRUGGLING pitcher, you shut us down. Look at Cliff Lee, look at Carl Pavano (fucking PAVANO!) and now Verlander.
Or if you’re a good pitcher like Josh Beckett, you’ll get 8 runs hung up on you.
Man, Molina is not a guy I want to fight, ever. Dude is tough as nails.
Why would you want to fight him? Dude looks so amiable!
he’s the Nick Swisher of amiable…
By the way, Ramiro Pena showed up to play tonight.
kennedy left the game after 4.2? great. another injury? all of us bitching about the scouts saying his cieling was a #4. boy oh boy this is getting really ugly.
who believes in curses?
Axl in disguise! I can’t believe I didn’t see it before…
What are you even babbling about? Our AAA team is cursed? Are you drunk?
I’d like to be!
Drunk that is….
I could go for some chug & slug right now.
No one should believe in curses. You either suck for as long as you do or you get it done.
Oh good Zumaya is healthy. I still have nightmares about the 2006 ALDS.
Just challenge him to some guitar hero, he can’t say no!
LOL IETC
This seems all to familiar. Back to back singles that prove fruitless…
Nice way to start the inning… Lets get it back here boyss
Who felt a rally coming? I’m too lazy to look up the thread, but good call!
Good, Verlander’s out. Make a move.
This is looking like the fourth inning again – two on, none out. Yankees are 0-3 tonight with runners in scoring position. Can someone, ANYONE, get a hit with runners in scoring position?
Dude, I started watching the Yankees 96-98ish, and I’m not jumping off a ledge just yet…don’t insult all of us
they are gonna get at least one run here.
Wait, Bobby Seay is white?
So does Leyland bring in Zumaya to face Tex and Matsui?
Tex’s wrist must really be causing him to lose his power. He has hit a few balls square over the last few days that have just died at the wall.
That’s one option. I’m hoping that it’s just him being a slow starter.
See.
Psychic
He just got under that one.
I would say this is would be an exceptional time for Mr. Tex to earn his money.
C’mon Tex, now is the time to get a big hit
Who makes these bats? I feel like the Yankees lead the league in broken bats.
Can they do a double steal here? Or something? Please?
We need to wait for the homer here
u suck damon!
Would be nice to see ARod on deck right now…
ARGH
Wow. How much harder does Tex have to hit the ball?
We’re so never scoring a run again.
WTP
At least he’s driving the ball better…
That ball should have been out. I think he is not playing 100% healthy. This is going to be an ongoing issue all year (his wrist), guaranteed.
Did you even see the replay? He clearly got under it and popped it up.
That’s certainly something to worry about, but you think we’d be hearing whispers, or notes at the end of columns if that were the case.
Tex is just missing all of these..
another tex ball dies at the warning track…ughhhhh
I’m starting to despise spillover threads. Every time a new one starts the Yankees implode .
Seriously.
What the fuckity fuckery is this? Just one run?
That’s too much to ask for right now.
F*ing a! Two innings the Yankees get their first two runner on base. Two innings they strand them. Pretty frustrating.
A-Rod, I miss you so much.
We need to go to the dictionary and give the Yankees a definition of clutch. -_-
It’d be great if Hideki could swing as hard as he can and bail out with his lead foot in the home dugout…oh wait…shit!
Sooooo frustrating..
I love the Yankees but boy… They are playing some embarassing baseball…
embarrassing*
Haha be careful what you say. If you’re not wearing the same rose-colored glasses these guys are in here…they’ll turn on you in a second…
Here’s hoping they can rally in the 9th. I’m not exactly confident in Hughes v. Jackson tomorrow. Hopeful, but not confident.
Don’t get your hopes up.
The Yankees tag Jackson when they play him.
Yeah, but he’s the kind of guy that has given this team fits, since he’s got electric stuff.
Well, has given fits in the past. This isn’t the same team as 2008.
this team is pathetic
This is a very hard group of players to root for, that’s for sure. No clutch hitters, starters not stepping up, hapless bullpen, terrible defense, etc…
I’m sure Tex’s bat will come alive for the late August Orioles games, though… can’t wait! Him and A-Rod will probably get half their RBI’s in September games while we’re sitting 10 games back.
125 RBI’s in September will catch us up pretty quickly…i’d take that
I’m guessing there is a rule against the Yankees hitting with RISP?
And the normal Yankee fan is going to call CC a bust after this outing…
Reply fail…
How the hell did Ordonez get that ball out? He hit it off of his heels.
Just Blew our best chance
I agree 0-7 RISP
This has to be rock bottom, right?
Seriously?
How about we get together and slit our wrists?
As Axl would say, that’s what cults do right?
and lmao at this comment. Nice one.
Joke?
Stump Merrill says hi.
BY, think of a baseball season like a 6 length horse race. We’re just finishing the first length, with 5 more to go. Lots of the other Horses are going to run out of gas or break down halfway through.
Now, wouldn’t it be silly to fire your Trainer of Jockey at this point? And what exactly would that accomplish?
well, actually, the trainer is pretty much useless at this point…
Old man Ordonez back on the roids
Well I guess Joe wants CC to give the ‘pen some rest. It’s just unfortunate that CC has pitched well and still might take the loss. If anything, this is an encouraging start.
But this would have been a nice win. Hughes is going tomorrow and the last thing we should be doing is placing the weight of breaking a 5 game losing streak on him.
4 Game. Sorry.
If the Yanks lose it’s only a 4 game losing streak!! I know things are going badly but let’s not make it worse than it is!
Jesus Christ they’re 9-9 in the first month of the season and people are already writing off the season. Ugh you all make me sick.
9-10
For me, it’s not a matter of writing off the season, it’s just frustrating waiting all winter long, anticipating the opening of baseball again and this is how the come out of the gate. Hard to get excited about watching them right now.
I feel bad for CC.
Well… No one can be mad at CC this game. Even if it was 1-0, we would still be losing. Like Mike said up there, can’t win if you can’t score. Lets hope we get some fight out of these guys in the 9th. One run, at this point, would be nice.
The people who say, “just wait until June when we take off!” are still waiting for last year’s June take off…
Wow! I just checked out the Lo Hud blog for the first time ever, and it is awful over there. I appreciate this site even more and am happy there are only two or three dissenters/haters, rather than every single post.
I miss it here when there were no “determined trolls”.
8 inning CG’s are the worst. I hope we make some noise in the top half of the ninth.
I prefer my teams to make statements later in the year. Tex is a notorious slow starter, as is CC, and A-Rod has not even played a single game. We have only played 6 home games, compared to 13 on the road. This is just about the worst time to evaluate the team and most likely will not give you an accurate reading on how the year is going to turn out.
Just like last year right? Yep, we really showed the Sox and Rays how dangerous we were in the month of September!
Yea tomorrow’s game has the story line “young, inconsistent but talented starting pitcher dominates yankees” written all over it
http://www.angelfire.com/space/usenet/
We should all start rooting for other wild crazy things to happen. Like how many games this pile of embarrassing fools can lose in a row or something.
That’s basically all we have to look forward to for a while…
Your parents must have beaten you as a child. You’re like a little whiny kidd acting out for attention. It’s rather sad and pathetic.
sad and pathetic to you? oh well let me change my routines so “pat” on the message boards can feel otherwise…
gimme a break. this team fucking stinks. they are playing like trash. wake up! there’s a whole world out there! quit closing your eyes!
I’d really like to take a glimpse into the life of axl, to see how desolate and devoid of actual human contact it really is. You come to a yankee fan site as a supposed yankee “fan” and talk trash the entire time to try and illicit responses from people becasue you most likely have limited contact with people in real life. I don’t have to know anything else about you except for the things you write here to know that people must really detest you in your own personal life.
I don’t even know him and I detest him!
Again, the last thing I honestly care about is what “pat” online thinks of me. I came on here because I’m angry. This team is an embarrassment. We spend half a billion dollars in the off season to start off the same way we have the past few years. It’s embarrassing and it makes me angry. I invest my own time into this team and they play like shit and actually make it seem like they don’t give a fuck out there. Just because you want to conjure up nonsense to trick yourself into thinking otherwise…that’s not my problem. You’re an idiot…it’s plain and simple. I’m actually at least talking about our team…there are a bunch of you who keep talking about me and getting very upset over ther things I say.
So you guys can get angry and upset with me because you say I annoy you. But I’m not able to get upset with the Yankees because they annoy me??? How does that make sense?? You’re all hypocrites and wear blind folds. This team is in the sewer right now. For no reason. We’re finding ways to lose. We have a lead? Our bullpen will blow it for us…we have starting pitching today? Make sure we don’t hit. We’re hitting? Let’s give up a few more runs to make this interesting. It’s a fucking menace. And it needs to stop.
So fuck off. And change your diaper. Everything isn’t all butterflies and ice cream out there. Sometimes bullshit happens…and its ok to be pissed about it.
Of course you can be mad at CC. He’s pitched to a 5.00 ERA this year, and when the team really needed him to keep them in the game tonight – he served up a 3 run HR. He gets paid the big bucks to stop losing streaks, and keep us in the thick of things when other aces are waltzing through our aged, useless lineup.
Obviously, he’s not the first person I’d like to punch in throat right now, but he’s up there.
Actually it was a 2 run homer. And second, it doesn’t matter, the offense hasn’t provided anything…yet….and by that I mean in this game…
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/
You couldn’t even reach his throat. He’d stop your hand, break your wrist, and then go throw a CG.
oh come on now Mike, its not like he’s Nick Swisher or anything…
It was a two run homer. And he could be throwing a perfect game right now, and he still wouldn’t be in line for a win.
hey, I’m not really a positive guy, but I think we should be encouraged by CC’s start today. The HR was lucky, and so was the first run.. He did pitch great.
At least Cano is leading off the inning in style.
Verlander was amazing. Cliff Lee? phenomenal. All of Boston’s prospects? Best ever. Fausto Carmona? In prime form.
When is everybody going to wake up and smell the roses here???
THIS TEAM FUCKING STINKS!!! AND THEY ARE THE EPITOME OF EMBARRASSMENT. Stop looking for excuses right now. They are playing like trash. There’s nothing else to say about it. The pitchers aren’t all amazing…it’s just that we stink that badly.
So you going to cheer for the RBI we scored like a Yankee fan…oh wait.
I mean it’s nice…but what’s the point? This team hasn’t shown me anything that gives me confidence that we’re going to win. They are a lackluster ballclub of multi-millionaires. They don’t care. Once they go home they go home to their palace and relax. They already got their money.
So when the Yankees hit a hot run, and they start to light up everything they see and the bullpen is strong, please don’t come back here and claim this team is championship caliber. Guess what, it’s 18 games. Everything, up to this point, is a small sample. Are there times that the Yankees haven’t looked good? Of course. Has their bullpen and starting rotation been roughed up? Yeah. In the series against the A’s, the ‘pen looked good. CC just had a good start tonight. It’s a 162 game season. Trust me, the first 20 games won’t doom this team.
So if and when the Yankees go on a winning streak, etc., please don’t come back here claiming their the best thing since sliced bread.
The Yankees have been like this for the past couple of years…why should I think NOW…THIS YEAR…they’re going to stop in the middle of doing the same things they’ve been doing…and all of the sudden change for the better??
For the love of anything that’s holy, even if/when we lose this game CAN WE PLEASE SCORE CANÓ?!
If Cano hustled that could have been a triple…
Way to score runs when you’re losing! Unclutch bums!
Cano comes to play hard everyday… The same Cano that should be hitting 3rd in our lineup right now.
Wow Cano is ridiculous.
ENCORE ENCORE
HEY WERE ON THE BOARD
!!!!
Wait… we don’t score any runs all through 8 innings and in the 9th… We score 1 run on 2 pitches? Man, this team is confusing and frustrating. Lets keep the circle going boys, lets get back in this.
*Sniff, sniff*
Am I smelling a potential come back?
Swiiiisherrrrrrrrrrrrrr
man let cano bat cleanup…what else does this man have to do?
positive things to take away from this game:
Bullpen rest
No walks given by CC.
Everyone but Melky, and Damon got hits.
Pena got 2 hits.
Sabathia got a pick off.
Cano got 2 hits.
Swish got a hit with RISP.
Bad things:
0 runs
0 walks
1 XBH
1-8 RISP
7 LOB.
oops meant to write 1 Run.
Everyone but Melky, and Damon got hits
Fixed
Ok…or html FAIL
comeback?
MELKY!!
When Melky doesn’t kill a rally, something good has got to happen.
HIP HIP!!1
Where the Melky haters at yo!!!
Right here.
*raises hand*
The ghosts are comin out woot.
Why didn’t Rodney start this game?
This game is over….why are we still watching…jk…I hope
You see what happens when your farm system actually develops a real live all star position player???
Too bad we don’t have 4-5 more Cano’s ready and able.
EXACTLY!
this is exactly what i mean–look at boston and all the mint they’ve made, especially ortiz, manny, jd drew, bay, beckett.
those guys are cashman money.
this is going to be too little too late….i know it
Another pinch hit homer for Posada? Lets freakin’ hope so… Lets go man.
i PLAYED THIS GAME ON THE SHOW EARLIER TODAY AND RODNEY DID BLOW IT FOR DET MAYBE THERE IS SOME DEJA-VU
pinch hit posada!
Just when I thought I was out…they pull me back in…
Posada never comes through in these spots.
Fucking scumbag.
Yyyyyyep.
Gotta get to Rodney here, Zumaya lurking
The strike zone has been God awful all night.
Im back
Thank Mo, we need all the help we can get to fend off the trolls. Be vigilant.
Fuck
Did he even run?
Way to run it out Jorge.
way to hustle posada
I know he is getting up there but the guy needs to be busting it down the line. It didn’t look like was even trying. My wife even comment on how he wasn’t even trying.
Get the fuck out of town Brandon inge
I do not say this about many athletes.
But I am fooking faster than Jorge Posada.
He’s a catcher, what do you expect?
Effort?
But can you squat for 3+ hours and take a 100mph ball to the face occasionally?
Jeterian.
Name me the last walk off HR/Game winning hit that Posada has had.
2003 ALCS vs Pedro?
Wasn’t that homer against Texas when they were down 8 @ the Stadium last year or 2007?
He jogged right out of the box all the way down the line, he watched that play happen.
GUESS NOT
You are what your record says you are and this team is not good right now.
So if Jorge can be all over Swisher for laughing when he pitched, then he should allow criticism for not hustling out that ground ball – even if he does run like he has a piano on his back.
I know exactly what the MSM guys would say: “Well, Posada’s got the rings. He knows what he’s doing” or something along those lines.
Well, theres always tomorrow. Hopefully Hughes brings it and gives us something to be excited about
No pressure Phil. Last longer than 3 innings and you have bested Wang.
Embarrassment to the city. I loathe the way this team plays baseball. Loathe it.
Way to come up clutch, Jorge! Old Guard comes through again!!!!!!1111111
I believe Ben said the same thing to you last night. The city? Really?
Nitpicky much? I think you know what I mean. I think.
Here’s something novel. Why don’t you say what you mean?
isnt one of the things they teach you in little league is to not look at the ball after you it????
Jorge, why?
And the Red Sox with 3 runs off Kerry Wood in the 9th.
Goddamnit.
On the plus side, they lost quickly tonight.
Not even 9:30 yet.
Posada blew this game, I mean couldn’t he have at least ran out that double play? Well, there is always tomorrow.
^^ Believe Posada hit a walk off against KC last year. Or maybe it was to tie the game.
He hit a shot a couple years back. 2 years ago, I believe. Was a huge comeback.
2 years ago, vs KC. I rest my case.
Pinch hit homerun vs cleveland wasn’t clutchy enough? it didn’t win the game but it was pretty important.
“Why aren’t you cheering after Cano scored…”
*Yawn…*
And no one’s forcing you to watch. Root for a winning team then.
The good news…at this pace…Girardi and company (Kevin Long and Dave Eiland) will be gone in no time…
Why Kevin Long? The Yankees have scored 102 runs in 19 games. That’s over 5 per game.
Apparently not enough…
Kevin Long can’t control what the pitchers and defense do. I’d say he’s pretty blameless in all of this.
Forget it Matt. Axl is incapable of responding to logic.
Its the Damn Redsox! Their so hot right now!
They’re…bah
Jorge, you do not deserve that woman you have!!!!
IETC.
Pena should play every day until he shows he can’t hit.
I heard a rumor that if the Yanks lose tonight, Joe Girardi is being dismissed and the Major, Ralph Houk, is returning to pilot the Yankees by tomorrow night and he is bringing Frank Crosetti as his third base coach and Spud Murray as his batting practice pitcher but only if Hideki Matsui gives up number 55 and gives it to him. I love Ken Singleton, Flash’s hair is disgustingly short; Kay is a fattening twit; and as for Suzyn, I’ll NEVER forgive her for almost taking a flying leap from the Lowe’s broadcasting booth the Sunday afternoon when testicle balm boy returned in all of his wife cheating, juiced up grandeur. And if you don’t enjoy my sense of humor, may you be strapped in a chair in a small white room whilst Ronan Tynan recordings are played incessantly in large volumes all about you. Wow! All this hostility just because my Yankees are losing.
I blame this loss on Posada’s inability to run. FAT ASS!
If Girardi get canned who replaces him?
Punky Brewster
Pumpsie Green!
You do. Have fun with the bullpen match ups.
Haha the Red Sox are the New Yankees…the never say die we once had and now don’t have…they now have…
Yeah, that was a daunting 0 run deficit they came back from.
Alex and Phil will save us!!!
All things considered that was by far CC’s best game…hopefully Phranchise can finally stop the bleeding.
Now when the Yankees are mashing, pitching well, and winning ballgames. Will you be around, Axl?
Why cant a dude be pissed that the team is playing like a crap and obviously flawed? Why is there something wrong with him for knowing and speaking the obvious? A guy can’t speak his mind?
One must have a mind in order to speak it.
There’s a fine line between being pissed at your team’s performance, which we all are, and being fucking insufferable about it, which Axl is. You can be annoyed, frustrated, angry even without annoying just about every other commenter on here.
So now ones emotions are on trial on message boards? I must have typed the address in wrong…I didn’t mean to enter Gestapo Ave Blues.
No one’s emotions are on trial here, Axl. You’re just fucking annoying.
First socialist, now Nazi… At least it doesn’t get any worse than that, it’s not like they can throw a worse political-affiliation attack at you guys tomorrow.
Oh well at least they didn’t get shut out right.
that’s teh spirit!!!
As someone posted above, there were some positives from this game. First, CC looked on tonight. A big stat was no walks. He had control and he was really pitching well. DId he make a few mistakes? Yes, and one of them cost him two runs. But you can’t really ask for much out of your starting pitcher. A CG and he did his best to keep the Yankees in it.
The one thing that still troubles me is the numbers with runners in scoring position. I don’t remember the numbers from last night, but only 1-for-8 with runners in scoring position can never lead to anything good. The Yanks had two opportunities – the 4th and the 8th – where they had two on and no one out, and they couldn’t manufacture the run. Here’s to hoping this early season trend doesn’t continue.
By the way, I saw Phil Hughes pitch down in Scranton two weeks ago. He was on point, and he looked very good in that start. I know the MLB is a different game, but I think we’ll see a confident Hughes do some damage tomorrow night – and not the Yankees ERA, their chances of winning, etc. (I had to throw that in for all the doomers out there – I don’t want my words used against me.)
How is giving up 4 runs any good?
Aces don’t give up 4 runs when the other guy gives up 0.
The Yankees deserve Punky Brewster. This is a sorry bunch and it starts at the top. A monkey can give out blank checks. Why doesnt this guy make some baseball trades and make the bench stronger. You know why? Because he sucks.
You do know we came into the season with a good bench, right?
How about getting Nick Swisher for Wilson Betemit? That was a pretty good trade. The bench has…get this…BENCH PLAYERS ON IT. THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE PLAYING A LOT IS BECAUSE ALEX RODRIGUEZ AND XAVIER NADY ARE INJURED. If Xavier Nady had not gotten hurt, he or Swisher would be the 4th OF rather than Melky Cabrera. Was Cashman supposed to predict that injury?
Yeah, Cashman should probably have prepared for injuries. This whole ‘how is Cashman supposed to know!?’ thing is really old. Maybe because it happens EVERY YEAR.
Name one other team that has 5 deep of solid everyday outfielders?
Please.
One good player on the bench doesn’t mean Cashman built a good bench and built a team on depth.
He hasn’t solved the crap bench in 8 years. When does he answer for letting it degenerate like this? Who here can’t give a blank check to the three best FA’s on the market?
DO YOU KNOW WHY THE BENCH IS CRAP?! BECAUSE IT’S THE FUCKING BENCH! THERE’S A REASON PLAYERS ARE ON THE BENCH: THERE IS SOMETHING CRAPPY ABOUT THEM! THEY ARE REPLACEMENT PLAYERS AND THAT’S WHAT THEY’RE PLAYING LIKE.
Do you realize how Cashman has improved drafting, scouting, and improving the organization overall?
You compare to the Sox but they had a 3 year head start, so you can’t expect the Yankees to be right on par with them. The Swish trade was an absolute steal, even if Swish has a season like last year. Still more valuable than all those guys. I would of liked Ramon Vazquez to be our bench guy but you need to realize, good players are not going to take jobs as bench guys. He went to Pitt so he can start everyday, good players know they are too good for a bench job, so what can Cash do there? Give up great talent for a guy who is only going to be playing once a week? No, he should not. We had a solid bench before X went down, and when A-rod and X(hopefully) comeback healthy….the bench will look good again. Some of you need to think.
Who else should he have gotten? This is what I want people who complain about the Yankees to answer. What other moves would you have done if you were in Cashman’s place? Trading for a replacement third baseman would’ve been stupid because there’s no reason to give up value for a guy who’s gonna play for a month. Right now, he should probably make a move for Mike Cameron, but we’re talking about the offseason. I’d say what Cash did in the offseason–Tex, CC, AJ, and Swish–was pretty good. So, what else would you have done?
Dang trolls are really coming out tonight. I guess those are the consequences when your blog goes bigtime.
I can still frame Axl?
I’ll put my name as “Angry Axl”, have my 4 year old brother leave a comment that is deserving of being banished 4eva1!1!!
Hahah, I think they do teh banning by IP address. You need to tell your brother the files are inside the computer, then he should be ok.
Then me and the whole
O’DoylePopavero crew will get what’s coming to us after Axl throws his oil slicked Yankee hat out the window and theO’DoylePopavero crew will fall into oblivion.Yes, Matt. I know it’s a run-on.
Popavero rules!
Yep. He fuckin’ rules. At losing bracket picking tournaments.
[breaks out laughing] That’s a good one.
Brick Tamland thinks you’re funny.
Turn on USA, watch Kelly Kelly and Brie Bella wrestle.
Cheer you up a bit.
Someone please talk me down, I know were only about a ninth of the way through the season, but they really havent looked good, even when they won. I almost feel like their record doesn’t reflect how poorly they’ve played. I know ARod will be back shortly, and I know CC will end up winning at least 15 games, but this team really doesnt look like a team competing for a pennant right now. They’re one game under, so I’m not pushing the panic button on that front, just worried about the team’s long term (2009 prospectes… Someone tell me I’m crazy and over-reacting??
and the reason why they don’t look like a team competing for a Penant… It is April 27.
April games count.
Pena better be starting tomorrow.
Obviously the Yanks need to make a couple of moves like most teams out there…..Cashman needs to pull the trigger for Cameron to get a stable centerfielder and by not doing it in the winter his price tag might have went up a bit cause he is mashing right now…..defintely need to switch the bullpen around cause it is not very good actually its horrible right now….and they need to start hitting with RISP because it is just pathetic.
I am not saying no to Cameron, but I think at this point it is kind of a panic move.
It definitely isn’t. Neither Garnder nor Cabrera is a long term solution in centerfield and Mike Cameron would be a less than one year player. He’s much better offensively than either option right now and defensively, he’s still very good. Getting Mike Cameron is a good move because a) it isn’t a long term commitment b) he’s a massive improvement over what the Yankees currently have and c) it makes the lineup that much better when Rodriguez returns.
Honestly, I would think about re-upping him towards the end of the year if he was performing well enough.
I think that all depends on Jackson’s readiness and the LF situation.
and Cameron will strike out less than Garbrera
Depends what Ajax is doing and if Crawfords option is picked up…ik a lot of ifs.
yep, Damon too.
Instead of giving up a useless Melky for Cameron the price is probably a little higher right now since we’re desperate.
Well, “let’s get um next time.” We can just look ahead to a hopefully good start by Phil Hughes. We still have time.
No we don’t, the season ends on April 30th.
Oh yeah, I forgot. Must have been thinking of a different sport.
Pujols swings at 3-0. Eff you.
Ugh! Red Sox beat Cleveland 3-1
Cano needs to be moved up in the lineup. He should be batting cleanup or third right now. There’s no reason why Matsui or Swisher or even Tex for that matter should have more at bats than him right now.
Totally agree
Don’t worry. Girardi will realize the obvious in about 3 weeks.
Or, you keep him lower in the order where he seems comfortable and won’t hurt the team with his lack of walks when his BA starts to come down to earth.
should i trade holliday for bruce?
Don’t worry struggling pitchers. Face the Yanks and get real healthy, real quick. Maybe we’ll make Jackson look like Bob Gibson tomorrow.
No pressure on ya, Phil.
How doesn’t Clueless Joe pull the trigger on a steal there with Melky on first and nobody out.
Because trying to steal when you’re down three runs is fucking stupid.
Oh yeah it’s real stupid. Take the chance. Maybe it was just my gut but I knew that ground ball was coming.
And if Cabrera gets thrown out, it’s a man on third with one out rather than first and third with no outs–I’ll take the latter. Also, I wouldn’t feel like taking the bat out of Jorge’s urine-soaked hands.
Can you replace him?
You get that feeling in your gut – you are meant for the job
It’s aggressive baseball. Something the Yankees have played essentially none of. And hey, since it’s such a stupid move, it’s unexpected which might lead to an easy SB.
So what if they haven’t played “aggressive” baseball? The offense is still doing pretty well w/o it.
Had they took a more aggressive approach into tonights game against a pitcher who was a strike throwing machine, I think the results would have been far better.
Or, they probably would’ve had more groundouts or swings and misses. Verlander was dealing tonight.
At least you are giving your self a chance. There are days where the patient approach works and there are days the aggressive approach works. After the second inning they knew he was dealing.
And if they swung and missed or kept grounding out, you’d be on here saying they should’ve taken more pitches.
No, because that wasn’t the hand that was dealt to them tonight. You don’t take pitches when the pitcher is throwing strikes and has no problem finding the zone. Don’t think I am some kind of an idiot, I am absolutely not.
You also don’t help him out by swinging at everything he throws out there. I love how no one is giving this guy an credit, despite how on he was tonight.
If it’s Gardner on first, I’d be more comfortable trying it, but not with Melky.
Okay, I was going to say this originally. Throw Gardy in there to pinch run.
The yankees will their 27th world series this year and you can take that to the bank. It is only april.
Man, I’m really a celebrity on here aren’t I?
I love how random blogger lingo is being thrown around having whatever meaning they want it to have.
I’m a “troll” because I react differently to the way our shitty team is playing. Makes sense. Maybe you need to go back to school…I’m going to go out on a limb and say you weren’t very good at understanding certain things.
I live in Red Sox territory. I hate the team…my friends are Sox fans. I hear it all the time. It makes me fucking angry. Most of you are all comfortable in New York somewhere right now where you don’t have to hear it everyday. So fuck off. Don’t tell me how to react you pieces of shit. I’ll react anyway I please. They are playing like absolute trash. And I’m reacting towards it. Just because you react a different way doesn’t mean it’s right or wrong.
I have a few Red Sox fans, and yes they let me hear it all the time. That’s part of sports. I’m gonna look this up in case I need to correct myself, but I’m like 50% sure no team in any sport has ever won every championship. Bad things happen. Teams go on FOUR game losing streaks. Even if you were 100% right, meaning the Yankees go 9-153, the team ERA is 7.60 and the team bats .176, YOU’RE STILL A WHINY FUCKING LOSER. The point isn’t that the team sucks right now, which it does (possibly only til tomorrow), the point is that you sound like a billionaire’s kid who’s upset about having to ride coach in a plane because the private jet is broken. Knowing you, you probably wonder why all the Red Sox fans hate the Yankees so much- it’s people exactly like you.
Here we go…more assumptions. You don’t like what I have to say? Make up some random story and hope that it makes sense. A billionaire’s kid?
Listen, the team sucks bad. They don’t just lose games. They’ve been beaten 15-5, 10-2, 14-2, 22-4, etc. Our pitchers have allowed innings with 9 and 14 runs scored in them. It’s not that we’re just playing bad…we are playing AWFUL. And it doesn’t look like there is any end in site.
So if you think I look like a “whiny fucking loser”? You look like the piece of shit with a blind fold on telling their mommy to tap them on the shoulder when everything is all better again. Crossing his fingers the whole time.
Get a grip. The team fucking stinks..they’re playing like utter shit…and it’s as if they WANT to lose. Nuff said.
There’s 143 games left in the season. Take a chill pill man. No one wins a championship in April.
And Mike, I’m sorry…I apologize if the way I react is a tad over overzealous…but like I said I live around a gazillion Red Sox fans and I hear it everyday so it makes it even more aggrivating and embarrassing. It’s not easy to understand.
Does that make it acceptable for you to take out your aggravation and embarrassment out on the readers of this blog?
Your situation is perfectly easy to understand. A whole bunch of RAB readers live or have lived in the New England area. Why are they able to take the circumstances of living in close proximity of fans of a rival sports team with a measure of reasonable maturity – and you somehow cannot control yourself?
That doesn’t sound very mature to me. There are much worse things than having to deal with the present lack of success of a baseball team compared to the relative success of a rival baseball team. That’s not even close to real adversity. That is no excuse for acting out like you have.
Who am I taking it out on? Which readers?? I don’t remember ever singling anybody out until they confronted me and asked for it.
I came on here and posted how I felt…and was IMMEDIATELY slammed for my beliefs. I was ganged up on and called names and anything you can think of. So I retaliated.
I know it’s easy to point the finger at me because I’m the guy everybody hates and disagrees with…but I didn’t start anything. I spoke my beliefs…which are not only appropriate…but extremely accurate. That is all. Everyone else decided to bring the steel cage out…
Wow, so it took Nick Swisher about 10 days to come back down to earth, huh? But-for his one hit in the ninth tonight, the dude has done nothing but strike out for the last week. Looks like the first couple of home runs and big hits went straight to his head – the guy looks like he’s tryin to hit a grand slam every at-bat.
And how bad is this bullpen? Is Cashman serious???? Marte gets Ortiz out once last year in a big spot and Cashman gives this scrub 3 years and 12 million??? Aside from Bruney (now hurt) and Mo, this bullpen is pathetic. I was at the game in Boston on Saturday and that shit was downright embarrassing. Edwar needs to get sent back down ASAP, at this point he’s just taking up space out there. Every night is literally a roll of the dice with the guys we have out there (anyone care to compare Boston’s pen with are’s…its not even close).
And so much for all the hype about Gardner in center field huh? Guy was billed the next Ricky Henderson on the base paths and he’s another automatic out (See also, Berrora, Ransom, Pena, Molina, Matsui).
So basically, we have automatic outs in – (1)Center; (2)Right; and (3)Third -, a DH with one leg, a starter who has an ERA higher than LeBron’s playoff PPG, 2 reliable relievers, and a new stadium thats half empty. Lookin’ good guys…lookin’ good.
And kudos to all the “experts” who thought it was a great idea to have Joba be a mediocre 5th starter rather than a lights out reliever. The guy looks awful and is now walking as many batters as he is striking out (and please dont point to his start in Boston as a retort – he looked bad that night and is lucky as hell he didnt give up 5-6 runs. Thank you 5 DP’s!). Oh yea, and his velocity is about as good as Wakefields right now (Pettite actually throws harder than Joba now, no joke). Joba has obviously been told to “pace himself” as a starter now and the results are alarming. I’d rather see Joba go balls out in the 8th innings and strike out the side 3-4 times a week in big situations than throw 91 MPH straight fastballs once a week. But hey, atleast he gets to “throw twice as many innings as a starter than a reliever”….guess it doesnt matter than he would effect three times as many games as a reliever. The people of RAB have spoken, and Joba will remain a back-end starter…FOREVER!
AN AVERAGE STARTER IS STILL BETTER THAN A LIGHTS OUT RELIEVER. Affecting more innings >>>> affecting more games. How do people still not get this?
Joba has made three starts this year. He had one good start and two shaky ones, one in which he was able to wiggle out of without much damage (Boston) and one in which he wasn’t (vs. Cleveland). If you’re willing to write the guy off after three starts, then you may as well say the same things about every starter not named “Pettitte” on the Yankees. Move ‘em all to the bullpen! That’ll fix ‘em! If you seriously think that Joba’s at his ceiling because of three starts then you clearly know very little about baseball. Developing an ace starter takes time.
Joba going “balls out” in the 8th inning is also definitely something that will ’cause his arm a lot more harm than getting regular rest and building up arm strength as a starter.
Please don’t reply to comments like this. It just encourages them.
….socialist.
“Them”. Meaning “us”? The rational fans?? What are you encouraging?? Are you the ones who are being paid multi-millions to play shitty baseball?
If you honestly belive that an “average” starter is “still better” than a lights-out reliver, you obviously know nothing about baseball.
You should go over to the Mets SNY blog and ask some people over there how that worked out last year?
Why do you believe the reliever is more valuable?
Wow. You said everything perfectly. I’ve been saying that for a while now but if you say anything different than what these drones want to here…they gang up on you and call you names…Hey, do you wanna start a blog? We can call it “Rational Ave Blues”…it’ll be a site where we talk about the Yankees rationally. Where if they stink badly..we’ll talk about how shitty they are…and if they play well…we’ll talk about that. It’ll be a place where everyone can express their feelings in any way they can.
I guess the drones can come too if they feel like they wanna join the rest of the realistic world out there. They justn eed to leave the rose colored glasses behind…
and if they play well…we’ll talk about that.
Have you ever done that? I don’t think I’ve seen you say thing about good play from the Yankees. You do realize they’re scoring over 5 runs per game, right? Why don’t you say something about that?
THEY’RE NOT PLAYING WELL!!!
The majority of the games they’ve won…they’ve barely won. And before the Red Sox series…the games the Yankees lost were absolute massacres. That’s not “playing well” in my book. Maybe with the rose colored glasses…barely beating weak teams is something extraordinary…
If we get out of this funk and into a steady groove I’ll be happy. Right now I’m pretty pissed. I don’t understand how hard it is to get paid millions of dollars and perform at least CLOSE to what is expected of you…
Hahaha, lets do it. It’s literally impossible to offer a different point of view or opinion on here.
Just wait till you run into:(1) Steve different-one; (2) Tommie/Carlos; and (3) CongressmanMondesi – their crazier than those lunatics at the “Tea Party’s” from two weeks ago.
While the the three guys who started this site are great, there are lots of “Kool Aid” drinkers around here who think the Yankees can do no wrong. And if you dare question them on their opinions or positions, YOU WILL PAY!
P.S. The Password is: Joba Starter
LOL. I’ve run into a few of them already. Tommie/Carlos hasn’t been too too harsh to me…but there have been a few dips on here that try to throw nonsense around and use it as logic “yeah well you seem like a spoiled rich kid! so there!” Little do they know that we’re actually all fans of the same team and weak attempts at personal attacks aren’t necessary.
The worst part about this Yankees team is that this isn’t like they just started playing like this out of the blue. They played like this all last year. The year before we finished .500 at the All Star break because they were all dickin’ around like a bunch of losers…yeah they came back and went 25 games over .500 or whatever in the 2nd half…but it still wasn’t enough for the division….and it wasn’t fucking necessary! Had we even gone 3 games over .500 by the half…we would have taken the division and played the beaten up injury riddled Angels…and history would be different…but no…we had to dick around like we’re doing right now.
There’s something going on internally. They need to some a shrink or something down there. Maybe an exorcist…
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....oba-debate
Yeah Jack, but that’s assuming everything is either great…or everything stinks (which it does right now).
If the starters were great…and we had legitimate depth in our starters like Boston does…we could pull a Papelbon with Joba…but we don’t have depth in our starting pitching…IN FACT…we don’t even had good starting pitching at all. NOR do we have a good bullpen. You can make an agrument that they are tired and warn out from the stinky starting pitching…but I won’t because I don’t buy it. I think it was inevitable regardless.
Keep him in SP right now because it doesn’t matter…both SP and the bullpen stink like yesterday’s diapers so who really cares what happens at this point.
I don’t know how you can definitively say Boston has better SP depth than the Yanks when they haven’t even had to use it yet. What is Boston’s depth, Masterson? Clay Buchholz is out with an injury, and while Smoltz was a great move on paper, he’s 42 and coming back from major shoulder surgery. Penny has a 5.00+ ERA. The Yanks have used five starters all year and will use their sixth tomorrow.
Let’s see the depth in action before declaring Boston’s better.
I’m basing it on what we see. They have better depth basically because they at least have some SP that are successful. Wakefield is having a dream season so far for some reason…Penny’s last 2 starts were ok…Lester has been pretty good. Beckett has stunk. They insert Masterson for Dice K and he’s successful.
Meanwhile, our starting pitching can’t get anything accomplished. Only 2 of them have showed signs of brilliance…only to “join the club” when it was time to slump. Hopefully Hughes can pitch to his abilities. I’m just saying…the way everything looks. We don’t even have starting pitching at all…so it’s hard to talk about the Yankees having any sort of depth with it at this time…
Thanks for the unprovoked attack. FWIW, I don’t remember ever engaging in a conversation with you or even seeing you here, but I think you guys should totally start your own blog where you can have fun chats with each other.
I’d rather see Joba go balls out in the 8th innings and strike out the side 3-4 times a week in big situations than throw 91 MPH straight fastballs once a week.
That is so far removed from reality, it’s not even funny. No one pitches like that. If they moved Joba back to the pen, the first time he allowed a hit or a run or God forbid blew a lead, you’d bitch about how they screwed them up. There’s just no winning, it’s always something.
Sometimes, shit just doesn’t go as planned. Accept it.
Well it all depends on the starters and relievers in the long run. At the moment we don’t have EITHER. Our entire pitching staff’s ERA is the worst in the big leagues. Pretty embarrassing when you think about us spending nearly 200 million dollars on pitching alone this off season.
If our starters were doing what they were suppose to do…and Wang was fine…and Hughes pitched to his abilities tomorrow…why not put Joba in the pen?? Because our bullpen is so beyond putrid. But the starters stink tremendously…AS WELL AS the bullpen…so it’s kind of a flip of the coin at this point. And you might as well keep Joba put..but yet, at this point…when both stink real badly. You might as well get 5 innings and 5 earned runs of terrible starter Joba…than get a bad start by somebody else…and have Joba sit on the bench never to come in
Joba should only be moved to the pen if over the course of 2-3 seasons, his record proves he cannot make it as a starter due to awful performance or injury.
He needs a legitimate chance to become an ace starter. That is his ceiling. There is no reason to arbitrarily deny him the chance to achieve his potential in the name of short-term improvements to a struggling Yankee team in April.
With a starting pitching squad performing like this…he won’t ever see the bullpen again. This rotation is in shambles…
Fare removed from reality?? Really???
I’m pretty sure that Joba couldnt be touched out of the pen in 2007 and was only stopped by nats in Cleveland.
And I’m obviously not looking for perfection or 0.00 ERA, but to say that Joba has regressed from a reliever to a starter is a gross understatement. Anyone who still cant admit that he’s being under-utilized as a back-end starter is either stubborn or alarmingly ignorant.
He’s only a back-end starter because of his 150 IP innings limit this season. Being the fifth starter allows the Yankees to skip his start if needed.
Ugh