Apr
29

Game 21 Spillover Thread II

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I heart Detroit’s bullpen.

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  1. David S says:

    OMG Joba throws a three hitter, send him to the bullpen now

  2. A.D. says:

    Some of the guys in the pen just need work at this point.

  3. Happy Axl says:

    Joba is so good…he can walk a bunch of people and hit who he pleases…and still get out of jams…

    I shall call him “El Joba” which is spanish for “The Joba”…

  4. Jamal G. says:

    David Ortiz is absolutely atrocious. Why Tito Francona has him in the third spot still is anyone’s guess, and fans of all other AL East team’s joy.

    • Joey H says:

      Well Tex is hitting sub .200 now is he not? I know age and power numbers are all factors but you’ve got to go with your guns until you are sure you are out of bullets.

      • Zack says:

        Except Ortiz is fat and out and shape and has injuries to his knee, wrist, shoulder over the last 3 years

      • Jamal G. says:

        In a vacuum that’s a good point, but you and I both know that when looking at these two cases, it’s not the same situation.

        • Joey H says:

          No, I know that absolutely. Thats why I said age and what they’ve done power-wise so far. But you’ve got to stick with your guns. I wonder how many more days he gets in the 3 hole before Tito pulls the plug.

      • Happy Axl says:

        Coincidence he has heart palpitations that give him a scare (common side effect of steroid usage) and then just after that he has his worst season on the Sox…and an absolute atrocious start to 09??

        Just sayin…

      • RollingWave says:

        Teix ‘s OPS is still over 100 points higher despite hitting sub .200. Ortiz’s problem isn’t just average. he’s not hitting for any power or walk either.

  5. Joba could possibly be in both in the starting rotation and in the 8th inning at the same time.

    I’m pretty sure this defies some of the laws of physics.

  6. VO says:

    I’m guessing Joba is not available to pitch the 8th tonight?

  7. Matt M. says:

    ZOMG1!11!!!!!! teh joba for teh 8th!!!!!!!!!111!11!

  8. A.D. says:

    ours up here [scorecard] is quite similar

    Bet they put the hearts around Cano’s name in the booth.

  9. Mike Axisa says:

    The Tigers definitely raised Perry’s arm angle. He was damn near sidearm before.

  10. Man, Peña making some solid contact.

  11. dkidd says:

    yankees have a flight to catch

  12. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Joba for the 8th? I hear it’s his inning.

  13. Accent Shallow says:

    So who will pitch the eighth this game?

    Apparently Joba. Fantastic. I believe this is the first time he’s gotten this deep in the game as a starter.

  14. If Joba goes out there for the 8th, does that make the B-jobbers happy?

  15. Eric says:

    I think Tex’s wrist is bothering him, but he’s a tough guy trying to play through it, which is not good for the future imo

    • Tony says:

      I think the wrist is more of a problem re: having your timing thrown off by being inactive at the start of the season. Being consistently pitched around is also an issue. ARod will fix that.

  16. steve (different one) says:

    if wang rebounds to his normal self, the yankees could have 4 top of the rotation starters under 30. think about that.

  17. Jamal G. says:

    Teixeira either goes yard or walks here.

  18. Joey H says:

    Chance Farve comes back… again are?

  19. Tony says:

    Joba needs to come out for the 8th. He’s being developed as a starter and finally has a chance to work a lot of innings at reasonable pitch counts. This is how you become a dominant starter.

    Then again, I don’t trust Girardi to do anything intelligent, ever. We’ll see.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      No reason for Girardi to take him out unless the Yankees have another monster inning here.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      The only reason to take him that even remotely makes sense is to save some bullets for later, meaning it’s an inning he can pitch at a more crucial time later in the year.

      I say send him back out there. He turned the corner in like, the 4th inning and I want him to build on that.

      • steve (different one) says:

        that, and no one outside of Melancon has really pitched since Saturday.

        Veras and Edwar got an inning last night. that’s about it.

  20. Nady Nation says:

    At least Teix is still taking his walks while slumping.

  21. Chris A says:

    Not a day goes by without a Joba to the pen argument. It is like a contagious disease, b-jober syndrome.

  22. Happy Axl says:

    El sanitario está aún en funcionamiento

  23. John Duci says:

    jobas comin out for the 8th!!!

  24. Joey H says:

    Wow when Rodriguez comes back, there will be pretty much no automatic out in the order.

  25. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Holy loaded bases!

  26. Jamal G. says:

    This ain’t the NCAA, puta.

  27. Accent Shallow says:

    So why is Ryan Perry in the Show? He wasn’t exactly awesome in A ball, and he could clearly use some work.

    • A.D. says:

      Pretty much the same reason that Porcello is in the bigs, Tigers hitting the panic button & also trying to save money.

    • pat says:

      Anytime someone refers to it as “the show” I immediately think Bull Duhram.
      Yeah, I was in the show. I was in the show for 21 days once – the 21 greatest days of my life. You know, you never handle your luggage in the show, somebody else carries your bags. It was great. You hit white balls for batting practice, the ballparks are like cathedrals, the hotels all have room service, and the women all have long legs and brains.

  28. These boots are made for walkin’
    and that’s just what they’ll do
    one of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you

  29. seanc says:

    Robbie’s my fantasy teams 2b. this situation makes me very happy.

  30. pat says:

    Robbie go oppy for me puulllleeeeease.

  31. Happy Axl says:

    Robinson Crusoe?

  32. Jamal G. says:

    Why do you guys want him to pitch the 8th? An inning or two saved in April is an inning or two he has to pitch later on when we need him to go deep in a game. I’d rather his games be shortened in blowouts like this.

  33. Well, Canó does have awful numbers with the bases loaded.

  34. pat says:

    Bah, robbie killed that one too. Oh well…

  35. Will says:

    Just showed Joba shaking hands in the dugout. Looks like he’s out.

  36. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Joba’s not coming back. That inning was too long.

  37. John says:

    at least it took 8 pitches to get him out.

  38. Happy Axl says:

    For that…I shall call him BOBBY CANO! ARIBA!

  39. Tom Zig says:

    Joba could have gone more innings but the rest of our bullpen actually needed work. He felt bad.

  40. A.D. says:

    Damn nice catch by Swish.

  41. Brooklyn Ed says:

    Swish with D. Awesome!!

  42. Happy Axl says:

    Swish the Dish!

  43. Jamal G. says:

    Swisher is all sorts of awesome.

  44. A.D. says:

    There was an alarm tripped??

  45. pat says:

    This is creepy.

  46. Tom Zig says:

    The indians’ bullpen is quite shaky eh?

  47. LiveFromNewYork says:

    What the hell is going on here?

  48. Brooklyn Ed says:

    wtf just happened?

  49. seanc says:

    apparently the ballpark is being evacuated

  50. Jamal G. says:

    Whoa, this is kinda scary.

  51. dkidd says:

    bomb threat???

  52. JobaWockeeZ says:

    So if the game is canceled we won right?

  53. Happy Axl says:

    fire alarm is going off in the Tigers Stadium…

    What do you think the odds are that an upset trashy fan pulled it to be a prick and its not legit?

  54. steve (different one) says:

    well this is a first

  55. Will says:

    Who knew stadiums even HAD fire alarms?

  56. Raf says:

    what the hell

  57. Joey says:

    WTF is happening?

  58. manimal says:

    … ITS A BALL GAME. Seriously.

  59. J says:

    lol what the hell was that about.

  60. JT says:

    Haha, Joe is going to be arguing with the security guard when the stadium blows. Gotta love his intensity.

    • LiveFromNewYork says:

      That’s what I thought. Joe was going to yell at the fans “Where do you think you’re going?”

  61. Eric says:

    Who pulls the fire alarm in a public place, thats not cool

  62. LiveFromNewYork says:

    This goes down as the craziest shit I’ve seen during a ball game.

  63. J says:

    LOL FALSE ALARM AHAHAHHHAHA OWNED!

  64. Happy Axl says:

    Are the Indians blowing their lead?

  65. dkidd says:

    detroit is a joke

  66. John says:

    They see someone with the swine?

  67. Will says:

    Wow, Swisher really IS getting hot!

    (Someone had to say it.)

  68. Happy Axl says:

    Indians bullpen is really blowing right now…

  69. Happy Axl says:

    5-3 now…bases loaded 1 out…JD Drew pinch hitting for Nick Green

  70. Mike Pop says:

    Ken Singleton is hilarious. Playing judge.

  71. pat says:

    Ken Singleton is Not Amused.

  72. Oh man, the Indians are not gonna survive this…

  73. seanc says:

    Coke looked good that inning.

  74. J says:

    pena should definitely stay up in the majors as our utility guy…

    he offers plus-plus defense and slightly above avg. speed and his bats been better than expected…

  75. dkidd says:

    other dugout, phil

  76. manimal says:

    I thought there was a earthquake or something… we channel surfed and forgot about the game, then as we go back the camera was shakin and people were evacuating.

  77. JT says:

    Kind of unrelated but I’ve been following this site since it started and is it just me or has there been a ridiculous jump in people following each game thread? Three spillover threads every night is pretty cool.

  78. Matt ACTY says:

    Had class, didn’t get to see the game but I see Joba’s line: 6 innings, 3 hits, 3 walks, 1 run, 6 Ks–did he look as good as this line suggests?

  79. Happy Axl says:

    I hate the Red Sox…

    And I REALLY hate Don Orsillo

  80. Joey H says:

    LETS GO LOS TIGRES! I love watching the Yankees win. And score runs.

  81. Happy Axl says:

    Sox just tied it up, runners still on 1st and 3rd…Pedroia up with a .667 lifetime avg against Jenson who’s on the mound.

    A nice error by the Indians before hand…

  82. Kevin G. says:

    These smoking commercials are gross.

  83. Aysh Albie io got a shitton of work to do. Please to be throwing strikes.

  84. Happy Axl says:

    Lugo is staying in the game at SS after pinch running…so maybe that win expectancy will remain at 67% after-all TSJC…

  85. dkidd says:

    johnny alphabet goes from last man in the pen to third man for one game and then right back to last

  86. Happy Axl says:

    I mean I know I’ve been pretty good lately…but our bullpen really is awful. I mean it’s BAD.

  87. handtius says:

    fuck. i go out to dinner w/ my special lady (not my lady friend), right at the beginning of the 4th and bang. there it goes. miss out on all the fun and all the wonders of a good Joba start.

  88. dre says:

    why is Berrora playing third??? he sucks at third.
    and Gardner in center?? really? Girardi thinks Gardner is a better center fielder than melky???

  89. Joey H says:

    Wow. A Damon/Gardner/Swish OF is an out field of 3 horrible arms.

  90. Ohh man Albie. Stop sucking. Please.

  91. Happy Axl says:

    Jonathon Van Every is having “a game” for the Red Sox Orsillo says?? Who the hell are these guys?? Everybody performs who they bring up it seems…

  92. Mike Axisa says:

    C’mon Albie, quit the shit.

  93. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Joe says “I just want to get on a freaking plane!!!”

  94. Matt ACTY says:

    Yo, Johnnie A: let’s get these last two outs and call it a night, k?

  95. Matt M. says:

    albie ‘s crying dragon tears…which we all know turn into jellybeans!!

  96. Joey H says:

    Oh my. It can’t.. No it can’t.. Stop..

  97. dre says:

    why is albie still pitching???

  98. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Nice.

  99. Happy Axl says:

    Yankees bullpen has allowed 50 runs in 20 games. The most ever in the history of the Yankees.

    Just showed that stat on ESPN…

    Pretty terrible.

  100. seanc says:

    come on. one more out.

  101. J says:

    The Yankees have one of their best BPs in recent memory…

    Mo
    Bruney
    Melancon
    Marte
    Veras
    Coke
    Alby
    Robertson

    and lastly

    NICK SWISHER.

    seriously though, those are real good arms and we still haven’t seen Steven Jackson and his nice split finger…

  102. Steve H says:

    Jon Lester’s ERA 5.40
    Joba Chamberlin’s ERA 3.13

    It goes without being said that Buster Olney starts his column tomorrow wondering when Lester goes to the pen right? Maybe it’s because 5.40 isn’t “mediocre” it’s just bad he won’t suggest it.

  103. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Girardi is enough.

  104. Will says:

    What’s the over/under on number of pitches he has to throw to get this last out? I say 0.5.

  105. Lanny says:

    There goes Alby’s shot to pitch important innings.

  106. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Oh my Mo. I can’t believe this is necessary.

  107. Lanny says:

    He has to go to Rivera up 8-1 in the 9th.

    Really?

    And we have a reliable pen?

  108. Will says:

    87 MPH? What?

  109. Wow, Mo, is everything ok?

    • Joey says:

      of course, haven’t you heard of suspense? He want to see what the hype was all about, thought it was boring, and got the last out. Done.

  110. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Oh my Mo. If we blow this…

  111. Joey H says:

    Okay Joba needs to close games. End of story!1!!!11!

  112. giselle says:

    oh my mo!

  113. E-ROC says:

    LOL. All….we…..need……is….one….more….out

  114. Matt ACTY says:

    Why is Mo in this game w/a five run lead…?

  115. Happy Axl says:

    This is real bad. Our bullpen is utterly terrible…

  116. Mike Axisa says:

    Well Robertson could have done that.

  117. LiveFromNewYork says:

    You have got to be kidding me.

  118. southernyankeefan says:

    what the fuck is going on.

  119. J says:

    lol the curse of farnsworth

  120. Eirias says:

    Get this shlub “Mo” outta there and get Melancon to nail it down.

  121. LiveFromNewYork says:

    COME ON MO!!!

  122. Matt ACTY says:

    K, back to my paper. This game was going much better when I wasn’t gamedayiing it. Sorry guys.

  123. OrangeCountyYanker says:

    Man, Girardi lacks the midas touch. LOL.

  124. Happy Axl says:

    Well the good news is the Indians have the bases loaded for Grady Sizemore…but there are 2 outs. Delcarmen has walked 2 and hit a batter…

  125. I guess Mo just wanted the save.

  126. I feel like pissing my pants.

  127. Tony says:

    Only Girardi can make me want a manager fired after an 8-1 lead in the 9th.

    What the hell was the point of pulling Alphabet there?
    Why rush Mo into an 8-3 game with 2 outs in the ninth?

  128. LiveFromNewYork says:

    That should NOT be necessary.

  129. Lanny says:

    Girardi is a clueless Joe. How do you bring in Rivera in this game when you got 4 games vs the Angels coming up and an 8-3 lead?

  130. Ivan says:

    Don’t worry Mo won’t blow this…………See guys.

  131. OrangeCountyYanker says:

    Nice game by Joba and Swisher !!

  132. dre says:

    its not the bullpen that sucks…its the manager not knowing when to take someone out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  133. BigBlueAL says:

    Man I just got home in the top of the 9th, I almost cost us the game I guess!!! BTW, Mo was throwing balloons up there, I really hope its just cause he didnt warm up enough.

  134. J says:

    i think its interesting how joe g offers high fives to certain players, handshakes to others

  135. Happy Axl says:

    Sizemore with a routine fly out to right field and of course Don Orsillo is yelling at the top of his lungs as if it was the greatest thing he’s ever seen…but he always does that.

    • Matt ACTY says:

      I’d hardly call that a routine fly ball, to be honest. That was more of a line drive. But, if Van Every isn’t playing deep, it’s a bases clearing double for Grady.

      • Happy Axl says:

        Yeah, the point is Orsillo likes to yell and scream a lot when nothing out of the ordinary is happening. Maybe that wasn’t the best example…

  136. BigBlueAL says:

    Oh boy, BTN started out talking about it looked like something is wrong with Mo’s leg.

  137. Matt ACTY says:

    So what excuse will the B-Jobbing MSM have tonight?

  138. Happy Axl says:

    It’s weird how Joe Torre had a short hook…and Girardi seems to be doing the exact opposite…

  139. BklynJT says:

    Hopefully Mo’s get these hr balls out of his system.

  140. BigBlueAL says:

    Great, BTN now getting everyone up in arms speculating Mo is hurt in his leg.

    • seanc says:

      Apparently it’s “something they’ll keep their eyes on” and “they may need Joba in the bullpen more than ever.” I hate these people.

  141. BigBlueAL says:

    You knew BTN would go here.

  142. giselle says:

    i have swisher and granderson on my fantasy team. holler.

  143. bigazzry says:

    It really baffles me how supposed baseball experts apparently don’t realize that a pitcher can throw maximum effort when he is expected to get 3 batters. Any pitcher in the majors can go add 3-4 MPH on their fastball if they only need to throw 15 pitches.

  144. dre says:

    i think Joba could pitch back to back no-hitters and espn would still say he belongs in the bullpen

  145. BigBlueAL says:

    Who the fuck is this Van Every prick?!?!

  146. Matt ACTY says:

    Why in the fuck does Jacoby Ellsbury jump every time he makes a catch on the warning track?

  147. Celebrity Axl says:

    Every boston prospect is successful for some reason…doesn’t make sense

  148. RollingWave says:

    Dear Kelley Shopach, please beat the crap out of the ball against your old team.

  149. Matt ACTY says:

    I still don’t get why they play “Charge” at baseball games.

  150. Matt ACTY says:

    And why did Sizemore not get time there? Bullshit. He asked in plenty of time and the ump even flinched. And the pitch was outside. Take him deep, Grady!

  151. Matt ACTY says:

    Damn. Grady missed his pitch to hit on the pitch before the last one.

  152. Mike says:

    Even though he had a great start tonight, I still think joba will ultimately go back to the bullpen. He has not been consistent enough two be the ace you all think he will be. I think he is at his best when he can just go 1-2 innings and throw just his fastball at 100mph and his slider at 87mph with his max effort motion. The two reasons I feel this way are: 1. Because he looks like it cause his shoulder pain at times throwing that curveball and 2. because he has all the trait to be a great closer: the adrenaline rush coming from the pen, cockiness of just try to blow it by batters and strike all of them out and he is not afraid of failer. Plus some of the league’s best closers were starters in the minors like papelbon, k-rod, nathan and a man known as mariano rivera. Think about it, mo has said he is retiring in a year and half, don’t know if he will change his mind about that but he can’t go on forever. I think Melancon could be a good closer but i see him more as that scot shields type set-up guy who can pitch 2 innings with a low number of pitches thrown. Also if Hughes keeps pitching well, when Wang is ready pitch in the majors again you can’t send Hughes down it may destroy his confidence. You especially can’t send him down when you have unreliable relievers like Ramirez who I believe I said would be pitching bad because he is overrated. Also bruney is not the answer as future closer and he is a free agent this off-season and has said he wants to become a closer. With Mo locked up until the end of 2010 bruney won’t want to stay another year because with a big year this year someone will surely sign him to be their closer. Plus Hughes is a more complete starters than joba because he really mix his pitches and can get quicker outs. Part of the problem with joba is he tries to strike everyone out and can’t do that because it will waste his pitch count. The team is better off with him in the pen then you can some night were you have bruney or melancon in the 7th, joba in the 8th leading to mo in the 9th. You could also have a night were joba pitches both the 7th and 8th setting up mo. I also think with those four together you have the new millennium version of “the nasty boys”. If the yanks wan to win the world series why not have one of the best line-ups in the league, arguably the best rotation in the game and have the most dominate pen in baseball with mo, joba, bruney and Melancon along with marte, coke and long man like Aceves. if the yanks can do that, I think we would have to be considered the favorites to win it all.

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