Game 22: Start of a streak?
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The Bombers are coming off two big wins in Detroit and two impressive starting pitching performances, but their bane comes marching in to the New Stadium tonight for a four game series. The Angels have beat the Yanks down the last few years, but the Halos are decimated by injuries and the unfortunate passing of Nick Adenhart. Young Anthony Ortega is making his second career start tonight, having allowed five runs in five innings against the Mariners last Saturday.
A nice little side story to tonight’s game is Bobby Abreu’s return to the Bronx. Bobby put up two-and-a-half productive years with the Yanks, and has been just as productive with Anaheim. He’s hitting .368-.430-.434 and is third in the AL with eight steals. (Who saw that coming?) Bobby has yet to hit a homer this year, but I’m guessing he’ll finish this four game set with at least one. I’ll give him a nice hand from my seat in the bleachers, but first plate appearance only. After that, I’m going for blood.
The lineup:
Jeter, SS
Damon, LF
Teixeira, 1B
Matsui, DH
Cano, 2B
Posada, C
Swisher, RF
Melky, CF
Pena, 3B
And on the mound, number thirty-four, AJ Burnett.
Credit: Kevork Djansezian, Getty Images
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The Mason Williams Watch
I know a lot of people rag on Bobby, rightfully so, I wish he was still a Yankee though. Especially for 5 mil.
Agreed. What a bargain the Angels got. I know he plays terrible defense, but I still liked him for his consistency and plate discipline.
Meh.
The BA is sky high, but he’s currently OPS+’ing 121. Last year, his OPS+ was… 120.
And last year’s OPS+ of 120 was still fairly worthless, as all the offense he produced (+22.4 wRAA) he gave back on the other end with his horrid range (-25.6 UZR).
I’ll still pass. You’re a great hitter, Bobby, but since we still have Hideki entrenched at DH, I’m glad you’re not on my team anymore.
Over/Under, 30 Hr’s for Swish?
I say over, especially if he has a hot hitting Cano behind him when Al comes back.
I’ll say over, although I think he’ll hit between 28-32.
I expect Cano to move up in the lineup as the season wears on.
I think with Swish’s OBP, he’ll stay in front of Robbie.
Why applaud Abreu? He decayed for 3 years here and they didn’t do anything of consequence. When he stops hitting .370 his OBP will be way down too, because that plate discipline continues to erode.
And finally, he would have nowhere to play here.
To clarify, I’m not saying boo him… but it’s not exactly Bernie Williams returning.
he was a nice player that contributed well. he never really did anything wrong and seemed to have a positive effect on young players.
no it’s not tino returning–i.e. no standing ovation for bobby. light applause…why not?
And finally, he would have nowhere to play here.
Nowhere does Mike say he wishes Abreu was on this team. The dude was a productive hitter and all around nice guy for a couple years, why wouldn’t the fans at least give him a round of applause before his first at-bat?
Agreed. I don’t want Abreu on the 2009 Yankees. Doesn’t mean I can’t show appreciation for the good things he did while he was here (even if they were outweighed by bad things.)
It’s called courtesy.
Good player and a seemingly great guy. Why not give him a big ovation?
His OPS+ was 138 in 2006 (partial season), 114 in 2007, and 120 in 2008. So while he has declined from the 140-150 OPS+ guy he was 5+ years ago, to say that he is decaying is a little strong.
The reason they didn’t do anything of consequence is that their pitching wasn’t that good in the postseason.
Actually, according to Bill James, players tend to have better strikezone judgment as they age, but because his SLG has declined, pitchers probably throw him more strikes.
Abreu was always a class act, and was more than willing to return to the Yanks, who declined to offer him a contract.
I’m glad the Yanks passed, I think he’s a major regression candidate sometime soon, but I still wish him well and would cheer if I was at tonight’s game.
Better to let them go a year early than a year too late
Even to a one year deal? That doesn’t make much sense.
Yes, even to a one year deal, if we have nowhere to play him.
He’s clearly behind Swisher and Nady and Damon, and probably tied with Matsui, but all those players have contracts.
I disagree, Nady? He’s not a proven AL hitter and while Bobby’s wall defense wasn’t good, his overall defense + arm wasn’t bad. I wanted us to trade Nady and sign Bobby, when he went for 5 mil, I was pissed.
Nady’s a righty, Bobby’s a lefty. We have too many lefty hitters as it is.
Plus, Nady’s below average defense limits the value of his offensive production, but Bobby’s traveshamockery of a trainwreck defense negates his offensive production entirely.
Nady >>>>>>>>>>> Bobby
Not worth it.
I’m calling Tex’s breaking out party this game. Nice time to do it. Finish off April on a positive note to lead into a more positive May.
Has anyone else thought about the fact that when A-Rod returns, one of Hideki Matsui/Jorge Posada or Robinson Canó will likely be batting seventh and Swisher 8th?
That’s kind of amazing.
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Any of you guys play Pandemic? It’s the most addicting thing ever, but @#$@#$ Madagascar won’t close it’s ports. Anyway I’m still on page 13 and definitley still fucked.
I think you have to keep Swish and Jorge in front of Cano. Get good OBP guys in front of him so he can drive them in.
Swish definitely, Jorge should be behind him tho, he’s way too slow.
So you’d have Jorge bat seventh?
Jorge could be a clean up guy or 5 guy on a lot of teams (which is kind of the point here)
Jorge could be a clean up guy or 5 guy on a lot of teams
Nah. But I think the sixth spot is good for him in this lineup because he would break up the lefties. (Although I would rather put him in the seventh spot.) Behold:
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Tex 1B
“A-Boob” 3B
Matsui DH
Posada
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Melky CF
Having speed at the bottom is pointless with Matsui and Jorge in front of them.
Jete
Damon
Teix
Al
Swish(while he’s over 380 obp)
Rob
Jorge
Matsui
Melk
Still, the way Canó’s been hitting, to hit him seventh…
And Swisher 8th with that .obp?!
Bill Mueller won the batting title hitting out of the #8 hole for the Sox, and Cano nearly accomplished the same feat in 2006.
Where did we rank offensively in 06?
That’s an awesome game. Only won it once.
damn it, now I have another excuse not to write my paper
I still have 7 more pages to write. You?
What is your paper on?
About 10 or so pages on the Afghan insurgency and strategies for counterinsurgency. Y’all?
Judaism and natural law. I completley blew TSJC’s mind when I c/ped a paragraph for him.
I was speechless. I was without speech.
I’ve got about 5 pages of Canterbury writing to do.
Ben, to answer your earlier thread I agree that small samples can be useful, and in some instances should trump all prior stats. For example, lets say Player X has recently sustained a knee injury, and as a result is a bit late on inside fastballs, particularly from same handed pitchers. Player X might have great career Righty-Righty platoon splits, but right now he couldn’t hit a hard throwing Righty if his life depended on it. People who only look at stats would completely miss this.
Advance scouting is all about using very small samples to get and idea of where a player is at any given point in time. Every team understands its value, but unfortunately many fans dont. And yes, you have to use your eyes and watch the games to pick these things up. That’s not to say teams/fans shouldn’t use statistical analysis, they should do both. Its not an either/or situation the way many fans on both sides of this divide seem to think.
One of only 2 matchups in sports that makes me literally cringe and ‘brace for the worst’ whenever I see it on the upcoming schedule. Could really use a strong one from AJ to set the tone.
What’s the other?
Jets-Patriots
You and me both, kid.
That collapse last season, oy vey.
Meh, I feel better about Jets-Pats going forward, now that we have an offensive line again, a real attacking defense, and no longer have Chad Pennington in our employ.
I felt that way when Torre was the manager, Scioscia really used to embarrass him and managed circles around him, usually with inferior talent. But I’m willing to give Girardi a fresh start, and think things will get better as Girardi gets more of his types of players on this team. Last year, he inherited an aging, flawed Torre team with no pitching. Lets see what happens this year.
People said a black man would be elected President when pigs fly. SWINE FLU BITCHESSS
Pat, you’re a degenerate fucko
True statement.
that ain’t original.
GAH WHY AM I STILL ON PAGE 13?!?!
13 of how many?
20.
I’m nearly on 14 though.
Dayum. I’m on page 1 of a 3-5 pg paper due tonight, and I’m kinda f*cked myself. When is yours due?
Tomorrow, 1 PM. I’ve done 7 pages in a night, before, and started that one at midnight…so I’m not that worried. I’m firmly within the doable-in-a-night territory.
My group (4 people including myself) just turned in our senior design report, about 150 pages.
That’s insane. What was it about?
It was the design of an offshore oil terminal.
OMG Matsui’s so finished why did teh blockhead girardi start him?
Ugh wrong spot, idiot.
I got a 7 page research paper due tomorrow at midnight and a 4-5 pg paper due tomorrow at 2. Working on the 2 o clock one now. The end of the semester sucks.
12 page research paper tomorrow at midnight. yes, the end of the semester certainly does suck.
Who wants to see some homeruns!?
ME ME ME!!!
we play today, we win today
hoping the wind is not too crazy tonight
Thought that inside pitch was a strike..
God damn the seats behind home are EMPTAYYY
Jeter said he didn’t realize it until he read about it. Not the brightest bulb that cap’n.
Too bad. The people with the most money should pay the most regardless of whether they are part of the team or not.
So i see the price drop didnt sell too many extra seats.
Well… Not exactly a good way to start the game….
Aysh. This could be painful And with Kay and Flaherty in the booth…
Can we go back to Detroit?
Every seat behind home plate is empty…. embarrassing.
How much movement would you say Burnett has on his fastball?
not just home plate. half the stadium is empty
I’ll be there Saturday.
I just got tickets for Saturday.
309 Row 7
You?
Not sure. Definitely field level. See you there.
That is not a good 2 strike pitch…
Woo hoo Bobby. Fantasy points for me on a travel day!
I have strong dislike for Chone Figgins.
I love Chone Figgins.
I don’t love that he plays for the Angels.
That was quick.
I just realized that Burnett looks a little stoned in his profile pic.
Molina should be catching tonight. He calls a far better game than Posada and is superior defensively. Plus, AJ all but said it was poor pitch selection that led to his bad outing last time out. This is a poor managerial decision by Girardi.
Take that to LoHud.
Posada only hits 375x better than molina. Other than that, horrible, horrible managerial decision.
Yeah, last time I checked, veteran pitchers throw what they want. If they don’t get a chemistry now, they never will. And actually he did say it was poor pitch selection on his part, not “all but.”
There are other veteran pitchers who trust the catcher in essentially every situation though.
I think Jose is a better catcher for AJ but Jorge’s bat is needed in the lineup. Girardi doesn’t have a choice. He’s not going to sit a hot Matsui to DH Posada.
So… thus far, is it safe to say, the stadium has been a major disappointment? Noise? Non-existent. Capacity crowds? Nope. Excessive amounts of HR’s, at levels never seen? Check.
Jesus.
I don’t get the noise issue. It seemed fine to me when Joel Osteen had his event there.
There’s been a grand total of 6 home games. Three of which the temp was about 40 and it was windy and rainy.
Could’ve been worse
Could’ve been better.
Love,
The MSM
You hear the roll call for Bobby?
The creatures loved Bobby.
Hey so, um, let’s tag Ortega okay guys?
And that first called strike to Damon was way outside.
Anybody else hate how Kay always says, “So-and-so (usually Matsui) tries to pull an outside pitch and grounds weakly….” It comes across very smarmy.
EVERYTHING Kay says comes across as smarmy.
touche
dudes, Damon had been swinging at balls. where’s the patience?
Teix!
Teix. awesome?
I like the arm-side run on Ortega’s fastball. What does BA project him as? Eyeballing it, he looks like a future #4.
“Ortega won just 18 games in his first four pro seasons before earning 14 victories in 2008, when the Angels named him their minor league pitcher of the year. He cemented his breakthrough season by winning five of his six AAA starts. Ortega took off once he started doing a better job of pitching down in the zone and generating more groundouts. His best pitch is his fastball, which ranges from 90-95 mph. He has enhanced his fastball with improved feel for his changeup. His curveball is an average pitch. He does a good job of throwing strikes and keeping his pitch counts down, which allowed him to work at least six innings in 20 of his 28 starts last season. Ortega doesn’t have an out pitch, so he has to be pinpoint with his location. He doesn’t beat himself with walks but he’s hittable because he’s always around the zone. Limke many young pitchers, he can do a better job of repeating his pitches. He must work on his focus and avoid the mental lapses that plague him at times. While he doesn’t have a high ceiling, Ortega could become a No 4 starter in the majors. If the Angels don’t resign Jon Garland or add a veteran to replace him, Ortega will compete for the final spot…”
BA prospect handbook 2009 p 230
I now have carpel tunnel.
I now have carpel tunnel.
Use it to get out of writing your paper?
Tempting, but I already used my aunt’s death on all my other papers…
Damn, I’m good.
Thanks for the report!
Damn, Matsui’s got LEGS.
and he knows how to use them.
Fuck yeah shit tits!!!
Niceeee
Matsui reeks of awesomeness.
Booyakasha.
matsui’s got a lot of porn left in his briefcase
icwudt,ietc.
OMG Matsui’s so finished why did teh blockhead girardi start him?
Here we go again…
That lead lasted long…
dude, we never had a lead.
Good point, that was my fault.
I seriously hope Youkilis miss the Boston series.
A.J. you’re hurting my feelings.
Good for my fantasy team, bad for the Yankees.
Man AJ is not looking to great so far hopefully he can get it together.
the place is a band box
Could be, but can’t judge it on that home run. That was pretty deep.
Man Burnett does not look very good :/
What happened, AJ?
any chance aj is tipping his pitches? even the outs have been hit hard
no, but a-rod is
When you walk Kendrick, something is wrong.
This is going to be a long game for Posada
Just got home, whats up with AJ?
Pat – This is a game where you start your best defensive catcher. The angels are a running team and Molina has the much better arm. Posada is already calling a horrible game. AJ hates pitching to this guy. He all but said so after the boston game. What’s that…. 2 stolen bases already for the angels?
You do realize that it’s part of the pitchers’ responsibility to hold runners on, right? It’s not just the catcher.
Both Jorge and Matsui are hitting well and should remain in the lineup until one of them stops doing so, and that means no Molina for the time being.
Oy, use the threaded comments. Makes it easier to follow =)
If Aj hates pitching to our catcher he should stfu. Why the hell would even say that?
How can you possibly know Posada is calling a terrible game? Because Burnett is getting hit around? Abreu stole on a pitch that was low and outside, nobody was gonna throw him out there. Posada is the starting catcher, he and Burnett need to get on the same page.
angel’s only squeeze when they feel like handing a playoff series to the red sox
Gotta get Aybar here.
aj: why do you suck?
jorge: why do YOU suck?
wind, meet swisher
Wow, Aybar with a little power, breaks bat and the ball still went to the warning track yikes.
I hate this team of banjo-hitting waterbugs.
Damn, Nick Swisher’s not a lump in the outfield.
Burnett’s getting hit HARD. Can’t imagine he’s long for the game if he keeps this up.
Then again, with the bullpen…
Wow the bat completely shattered and the ball still made it to the warning track lol.
Nice pitch there. Hopefully he settles down a bit. Makes me look bad with starts like this.
dude seriously, where’s the patience?
Damn you, gameday. Why do I have to pay for video highlights now?
Heh, maybe this is like the opposite of the Boston game for AJ. Starts shaky but ends up strong.
WOW this umpire is giving Ortega A LOT of room off the outside corner to LHH.
Hey, Melky does something useful!
What else is new…?
Melky, you tease.
at least, Melky is still keeping the fire hot.
Didn’t Mussina insist on Jose catching him? Maybe AJ/Jorge just aren’t a good match.
Kay, please don’t compare Lowell to Alex.
that sounded like board scratching to my ears. bummer.
I’m assuming it was about the hip surgery. Wouldn’t Chase Utley be a better comp?
Leche, Leche!
Way to go, Melky.
Pena should had put a little more power to that swing.
If Arod’s not running the bases, sliding, fielding or facing any real pitching I can’t see how he’ll be back in a week.
Agreed. He’s going to need at least 2 I would think.
he did slide today.
Where’d you hear that?
I think on the pregame. They said he slid on mats. I don’t know exactly what that means but he did slide on something.
Attention:
Please stop with these smoking commercials. Please.
Really. No one who smokes thinks that any of that extreme stuff is going to happen to them and anyone who doesn’t smoke does not want to hear it.
I think it’s useful for young kids who may get tempted into smoking, and it could serve as a deterrent to them. While there will always be people who smoke, having fewer is better.
I’ll handle my little bro. I don’t need to see that shit during baseball.
Drew = head hall monitor.
Haha. But they need to reach out to kids, and kids watch baseball, so the message will hit home there.
I really, really hate the Angels. Four game sweep plz.
Yeah let’s talk about Ellsbury stealing home. WTF is wrong with these people? Do we really want to see this. Assholes.
Jorge called some good pitches that inning. LOL
Let’s hit this scrub hard, please.
Nice easy inning, A.J. Keep it up, dude.
Well there you go AJ. Hope he can keep that up.
Man, the Angels have been around a lot longer than I realized.
Goodbye!!
Damon reeks of awesomeness.
Bandbox.
Jetstreams
Steroids.
Guess he feels OK!
Damon!! Yeah!
Wooooo!
come on tex
Take advantage of teh bandbox!
The way the ball is flying in right field, I might wanna take a few swings right now especially if the pitcher is Igawa.
Heh. Igawa would K you 1, 2, 3.
But I’ll be batting form the right side.
Professional pitcher > Ivan
Abreu strikes again
Reply fail
Haha.
You should of said, The way the ball is flying in right field, I might wanna take a few swings right now especially if the pitcher is Mike Pop.
longoria clears the bases against beckett
Woot Woot! Fantasy points baby. I have both him and Pujols. My friends are idiots.
I have Pujols and Utley on one team.
Let me add Manny to make my trifecta better than yours.
Mike Pop’s trifecta brings all the boys to the yard.
Yeah, I have Manny on that team, too.
Damnit Matt.
My others are Cano, Hardy, Russell Martin, Carl Crawford, Elijah Dukes, Adam Jones, and Stephen Drew on the DL.
Hanley and Pujols on my team.
Yep, his knees are okay now.
Dude, when did Matsui get a leg transplant?
Hey Romine hit his 1st hr of the season.
Anyone want to go to tomorrow’s game? I have an extra ticket, section 210.
The Big 3(Mike/Ben/Joe), TSJC, Rebecca, Mike Pop, Pat, Matt or anyone else I missed, consider this an invite.
ahhh damn, work gets in the way once again. head meets desk.
If any of you guys can meet me at the stadium, its yours. If not, I’ll give them away to a customer tomorrow.
I feel special!
Thanks for the invite man, but I wouldn’t be able to make it.
That’s cool, some other time.
Just got a ticket for Saturday…have two classes tomorrow so can’t really go, alas, but appreciate the invite!
Another time, sure!
Not to mention she’s afraid of this happening:
http://tinyurl.com/ck37ch
Don’t worry, I have the full season. This will happen again, and probably soon. I always have extra April and May games, June-September usually get snapped up.
Anyone else going to the game May 16?
No, but am going may 22 and june 7. And saturday.
As long as no one dies again.
I think it’s time to put an end to all the death talk.
I don’t want to sound like an asshole and in no way am trying to make your loss not seem important, but it seems like every post I read of yours makes reference to it. If this offends you, I am truly sorry. Just my opinion.
Ugh I gotta get up mad early saturday morning or I would take u up on that, thanks though.
someone tell napoli the point of a beard is to HIDE your triple chin
. . . or lack of a chin.
Hearing Kay call this came is like coming back from vacation. Ugh.
his name is jesse barfield. (trivia answer)
U mad?
(for some reason, that’s been on my mind lately and you’re the only one here who’d get it)
hahahaha nice. that phrase isn’t used as much over there anymore.
That’s unfortunate, really. Every time I hear that or hear “Oh peace, (name)” I think of mikeford. I wonder what ever happened to that crazy fucker.
Kay sounded disappointed that was foul.
How was that throw not in time?
beats me, I thought he was out for sure.
Posada is not having a great time.
game*
pena >>>>> berransom
Angels baseball=Stupid aggression no?
Can be, if you make them pay for it.
All I know is that it’s completely infuriating with Posada catching.
Holy shit there was nobody in right field HAHA.
Ugh, I’m still on page 14…
I have completley BS’d for nine pages now…
remember david cone. some days he had nothing, but he would figure out a way to win
Oh, I know. I’ve just never tried 20 pages in two days before.
Pena is fast. He needs to go to the minors and learn how to steal.
someone in the stands yelled “wall” and bobby flinched
ABREUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
The Cap’n!!!!
Lol @ Abreu!
YAY!!!
Ah, good ol’ Bobby Abreu.
he does have a sweet swing, though.
Jeter reeks of freaking awesomeness!
How awesome is it to have a 3B with legs?
Nice clutch from the cap’n.
Oooooooooohh Bobby
Hey Abreu still sucks at RF.
the captain!
CAPTAIN CLUTCH!
Bobby Abreu fielding fail
J-E-E-T JEET JEET JEET.
JSKEETJSKEETJSKEETFixed.
Michael Kay sucks.
“Ball hit deep”!!!
Come on, Kay.
good ol Jete
and beckett is getting knocked around. first place is 6 days away
I’m enjoying the fact that Jon Lester and Josh Beckett have been getting tattooed in each of their past two starts.
Greatest pitching staff in history, right?
Send ‘em to the ‘pen.
and smoltz was just shut down for a week
Eh, I don’t worry about the Sox unless they’re playing the Yankees.
I’m always keepin’ an eye on those fuckers.
Now that is the Abreu I remember!
Damon Damon Damon…
I would love Chone Figgins as a utility player.
Too bad it won’t happen.
Aye, AJ, this is not cool.
damn it burnett!!!
Allan James, you are killing me.
i would love figgins to go to the national league where he belongs
burnett can’t hold a lead.
Sit down Figgins!
I could have used the fantasy steal.
Whatever lol.
Heh, they were playing the intro song to Smallville (“… somebody save me…”) in the Trop when Red Sox pitching coach John Farrell went out to talk to Josh Beckett.
Nice!!!
It must be Jorge’s fault that he set up middle-in and the pitch was outside. That awful Posada game calling.
Are both him and Beckett trying to out due each others crappiness?
Wouldn’t be the first time.
I know. The Yankees need to un sync both of them so they pitch on the same day.
They are going to take the lead right back.
For anyone who is watching the game on Mlb.com’s gameday, I would strongly suggest you use, ESPN’s gamecast. I like it much better it shows you the balls path, where the players like to hit it, what part of the plate they like it on, the predicted winner, and some other junk. I just felt like saying this because gameday decided to take away the cool stuff.
They don’t do velocity and pitch though..
Oh, I didn’t even notice that, I guess it’s because I’m actually watching the game also.
Yeah, I usually have Gameday on because YES can’t afford a good gun nor a K-Zone.
I got a question, Who do u have more confidence of bouncing back this season?
CMW or Dice-K?
Can I cheat and say I think they will both bounce back?
I guess.
That’s a good question.
While neither Wang’s nor Matsuzaka’s peripherals are all that great, I would give the edge to CMW. Dice-K walks far too many, but with a good strikeout rate and CMW doesn’t walk many and has a low K rate. Oh yeah, and CMW is a sinkerballer and when he gets that pitch going, he’ll be lights out.
I think I finally understand the Burnett contract. He somehow manages to look good while giving up a run an inning.
Not from where I am sitting.
Type of pitcher A.J. is. Can look amazing one night, and horrible his next time out.
Great job by the sixers against the howardless magics.
Hey Artist formerly known as The Steve, did you give that ticket for tomorrow away yet?
I’m game…
Nope, its all yours. Can you meet me at the stadium?
Yes indeedy. I work three blocks from there. What time?
All my info is here, btw (via Facebook)
http://ow.ly/4COK
So that was a stellar inning.
Abreu’s hair is wild.
would the yanks have let Bobby grow that mullet?
No Flarity, Burnett is not throwing a slider u idiot. It’s a curveball.
Damn, Swisher is the man.
Ya. Abreu would of done that.
abreu would’ve had that
Man I love watching Swisher.
Damn, that replay was pretty funny.
Why would you send the catcher with Kendrick up?
way to take the bat out of kendrick’s hands, mike
Posada is actually doing decent at throwing runners out. Considering his arm, he has held his own and isn’t a liability in that way to such a degree. Obviously Molina is better at that but Posada is not doing bad.
The Angels are fucking stupid.
Angels are good for 3 dumb plays per game.