Apr
05

Open Thread: RAB on the airwaves

By Mike Axisa

Forgive the shameless self-promotion, but I’ll be Mike Silva’s show tonight around 7:45 to tell him what I think about the New Stadium after checking the place out yesterday. You can listen via the NY Baseball Digest website or 1240 AM WGBB. Howard Megdel of SNY will be on as well, but I’m not sure if we’ll be on at the same time. Either way, make sure you give it a listen.

While I’m doing that, Ben will be appearing on Tyler Hissey’s Around the Majors Weekly show at 8:00pm. He’ll be previewing the Yanks’ season for about 25 minutes, and you’ll be able to listen here. Once you’re done listening to me blabbing about the New Stadium, head on over and listen to Ben talk about the actual team.

Meanwhile, baseball season starts tonight! The first of 2,430 games will take place in Philadelphia, as the World Champion Phillies send Brett Myers to the mound to take on Derek Lowe and the Braves. In one of the many quirks of baseball, the Dodgers and Giants played a cactus league game this afternoon. The Yanks don’t start their season until tomorrow afternoon, but right now the weather isn’t looking so great, so they might have to push back the opener until Tuesday. Eh, what’s another day at this point? I’m sure this would ignite another round of kneejerk “the season starts too late so push it back two weeks so the weather is better and play the World Series in November but when it’s cold in November complain that they start the season too late and they should start it earlier so they don’t have to play World Series games in November!” reactions. You know what I’m talking about.

Anyway, here’s your open thread for the night. Talk about the Phils-Braves, Knicks-Raptors, Sixers-Nets, whatever your heart desires. Just be nice.

Oh, and if you haven’t already pledged for our 2009 Pledge Drive benefitting Joe Torre’s Safe At Home foundation, please considering doing so. Put your feelings about Joe aside and think of the kids who are scared to be in their own home.

Posted on Sunday, April 5th, 2009 at 7:00 pm in Open Thread, Self-Promotion.

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Matt says:

REAL BASEBALL, BABY! WOO!

Matt says:

I thought Morgan wasn’t supposed to be there. I’ve been lied to.

Mike Pop says:

He’s like Jason. Just when you think he’s gone, boom!

 
 
 
Manimal says:

Just curious, how many people still think that AJ Burnett was the wrong choice and we should’ve gotten Lowe?

Kevin G. says:

Just curious, how many people still think that AJ Burnett was the wrong choice and we should’ve gotten Lowe Sheets?

Rich says:

The reason I was opposed to signing AJ (apart from length of contact) was if the money allocated to him precluded signing Tex, which was the media spin at the time.

 
whozat says:

Sheets? The guy who won’t be pitching until maybe halfway through the season?

 
 
andrew says:

Coming into the offseason, my priority list out of those 3 was: Sheets, Burnett, Lowe.

I wanted Sheets #1 because I figured due to his injury concerns he would’ve been a bargain.
Burnett #2 because he was a proven AL/big game power pitcher. Even knowing the injury concerns, he has a ton of talent and I was secretly hoping he would come here and stay healthy
Lowe is #3 because of his age and because I didn’t think his NL pitch to contact style would translate will in the AL east.
Once Sheets went down, Burnett became my #1 choice (after CC, of course)

Tom Zig says:

Personally I had Burnett #1.

Well if the four horsemen of the apocalypse attacks our current rotation and Sheets is healthy by midseason, we could still sign him…

Mike Pop says:

Personally I had Burnett #1.

Where Tom Zig was on my list of favorite RABers:

36

Where he is now:

7

Is this just a rough guesstimate, or do you actually have a list?

You do, don’t you?

Mike Pop says:

5 most important commenters alive, man:

1:Mike Pop
2:Mike Pop
3:Mike Pop
4:Mike Pop
5:Mike Pop

 
 
Tom Zig says:

Thanks Mike, 36 didn’t seem so low to begin with.

On TSJC’s list, i’m probably ranked below that guy Dave who could never find the reply button; hughes65, before he learned how to spell; and the myspace kid, who has since not re-appeared.

haha

Naw, you’re good money, Tom Zig. You’re solidly in the top 100.

Wait, who’s the MySpace kid?

Tom Zig says:

I don’t even remember his name, but there was some kid on here who appeared on one thread. He was just posting links to his myspace page and saying absurd things. That’s all I can remember.

I tried searching for him, but I couldn’t find him.

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Spaceman.Spiff says:

Agree completely with your priority list. Once Sheets went down, I felt the same way.

 
 

Based on the fact that Burnett is a bigger injury risk than Lowe, and Lowe’s signed to a shorter, cheaper contract, yes, I still think Burnett was the wrong choice and we should have gotten Lowe.

Hope I’m wrong.

The fact that Burnett has made in through a month and a half without getting injured yet does not mean the choice was a correct one.

Useless stat time:

Burnett spring stats:
5 starts, 23.1 IP, 19 H, 9 R, 9 BB, 15 K, 3.09

Lowe spring stats:
6 starts, 26 IP, 26 H, 11 R, 2 BB, 26 K, 3.81 ERA

Tom Zig says:

Useless stat time part II

According to b-r

The Yankees were 0-73 in games they lost…
The Yankees were 89-0 in games they won…

No but seriously:

The Yanks had an ERA of 8.60 in games they lost
and an ERA of 1.96 in games they won.

 
 
Mike Pop says:

The fact that Burnett has made in through a month and a half without getting injured yet does not mean the choice was a correct one.

We won’t know the answer for another 4 years.

Exactly.

I hope I’m wrong and we made the right choice, but there’s no way to know for quite some time.

andrew says:

But Lowe is perfect through 2!!1!11!!! CASHH TEH SUX0R

 
 
 
 
radnom says:

“Just curious, how many people still think that AJ Burnett was the wrong choice and we should’ve gotten Lowe?”

The debate was never (for me at least) Lowe vs. Burnett. Who says either of them had to be signed for that much commitment. Out of the two, I still feel Burnett was the better option.

And its easy to gloat about Sheets now that his injury has come to full light, but any interest in Sheets was based on the initial reports of his injury, and qualified by a full medical examination.

Matt K says:

Right now I like AJ. Maybe its just his amazing curveball teasing me but I can’t wait to watch him pitch.

andrew says:

his curve has definitely been teasing me the last few weeks. Never really appreciated it when he was in Toronto. It is a nasty, nasty pitch.

It is a nasty, nasty pitch, yes.

So is Lowe’s sinker.

radnom says:

Yeah, in the same way Wang’s is…a reliable good pitch when located properly.
Not really comparable to a pitch like AJ’s curveball.
I know youre all about how Lowe has been an overall better pitcher in his career (although doubtful it remains so over the course of their current contracts), Lowe is much more of a pitcher than Burnett, not so much of a ‘nasty’ thrower. His command was what many believe was killing him at the end of his Boston days, and managed to figure something out and dropped his BB/9 by a whole point when he moved to LA.

Mike Pop says:

I also like A.J. more because of my mancrush and that he is a K guy. Maybe, just maybe, Lowe would get a little more beat up because of…the Cap’n.

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Yeah, I probably have an anti-mancrush on Burnett. It is what it is.

 
Mike Pop says:

Different tastes man, black and white, black and white. ;)

 
 

Yeah, in the same way Wang’s is…a reliable good pitch when located properly.

If Burnett’s curve isn’t “located properly”, it’s a crappy pitch. Your qualifier is a tautology. Every pitch must be located properly in order to be effective.

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andrew says:

I think it’s a little different though, because Burnett can throw his curve in the dirt and get easy swings and misses or he can throw it in the zone and get outs that way as well. I’m not quite sure Wanger’s or Lowe’s sinker work quite like that. If their sinkers are low and out of the zone, guys can just take them.

 
andrew says:

And yea, I guess you can say guys can take Burnett’s curveball in the dirt too, but i think the difference is that Burnett’s curve can fool people, Wang and Lowe can’t really do that.

 
radnom says:


If Burnett’s curve isn’t “located properly”, it’s a crappy pitch. Your qualifier is a tautology. Every pitch must be located properly in order to be effective.

Not really, since we were talking about “nastyness”. I compared Lowe to Wang who is certainly an effective pitcher. A mediocre fastball can be effective when its located properly. By the same token a sick curveball is useless is you can’t get it in the strike zone. Does this mean they are the same quality pitches? No.

If Burnett had Lowe’s command, he would be the best pitcher in the league. If Lowe had Burnett’s command he would be unemployed. Clearly there is a difference in the quality of the pitches (which, along with command, is only a part of the equation of how effective a pitcher is).

 
 
 
 
pat says:

Word. When he backdoors it on lefties it’s unhittable.

 
 
 
 

I still think they should have gone with Lowe, but I’m not complaining.

Tom Zig says:

When your problem is whether to sign Burnett or Lowe, I guess it’s a good problem to have.

 
 
 
Kevin G. says:

Oh, and if you haven’t already pledged for our 2009 Pledge Drive benefitting Joe Torre’s Safe At Home foundation, please considering doing so.

Instead of donating for each of the team’s home runs, you should donate money for every time we hear Michael Kay say “past a diving Jeter.”

Yankeegirl49 says:

You know, I had always thought his D wasnt as bad as some made it out to be. Then I started reading this site and these comments. When it was mentioned how many times that was said, I realized that it just might be as bad as some say. I have pointed that out to some friends and all have the same reaction “wow, never thought of it that way”.

andrew says:

Same over here. I could tell from watching sportscenter top 10 and rarely seeing Jeter on it (i know thats a bad barometer, but just for the sake of the anecdote…) but seeing other ss’s around the league making diving stops. I figured he was just an avg ss, but since i started reading RAB about a year ago, i’ve started to really notice his defensive flaws more than before.

John says:

Me too…Being young and a big Yanks fan but not yet a smart fan made me think Jeter was the best SS in the world (after A-rod of course) until like 2005.

 
27 this year says:

diving stops have nothing to do with good defense, just to make a point.

Yankeegirl49 says:

No, but it did make me pay more attention to range. Both Jeter’s and others.

 
Mike Pop says:

diving stops have nothing to do with good defense, just to make a point.

Apparently, you have not heard of grit sir.

 
 
 
 

Seriously, though. donate. It’s for a good cause. Do it.

 
 
Matt says:

John Kruk just said the Rangers could win the AL West “if they can pitch” and that Chris Davis could hit 40-45 homers.

Both those statements are true.

Here’s some more statements that are true:
The Angels could win the AL West if they can pitch.
The Athletics could win the AL West if they can pitch.
The Mariners could win the AL West if they can pitch.
Vlad Guerrero could hit 40-45 homers.
Matt Holliday could hit 40-45 homers.
Adrian Beltre could hit 40-45 homers.

 
 
Drew says:

Good work on the radio Mike A. Love the plug for Jorge’s foundation.

 
 
Matt says:

And here…we….GO!

 
Matt K says:

Statistics question

Does a reliever get a hold anytime he holds a lead?? I was thinking there might be a better stat when there is hold with 1 or 2 runs are the difference. Iam sure I am not an innovator here, there are a lot of stats out there I don’t know about.

Drew says:

I thought holds are like saves. A 3 run lead is the max to earn a hold. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Drew says:

Yea that’s what I thought. And Matt I’mm pretty sure they do keep those close games in mind in terms of “leverage.”

 
 
 
Tom Zig says:

Is the hold a more useless stat than the save?

This is like arguing which of Clay Aiken’s testicles is more worthless.

andrew says:
 
 
 
 
Yankeegirl49 says:
 
pat says:

Pumped to watch schafer

andrew says:

im sure that hr didnt hurt

 
 

I hate to sound like a traditionalist stick in the mud, but I hate the alternate Sunday uni concept and think the Braves should at least have worn normal unis for Opening Day.

It’s freaking opening day. Wear gray like a grownup.

Matt says:

The Braves uniforms look like shit.

Seriously. Spring Training is over, fellas.

Oh, and a memo: Red is one of your team colors, in case you forgot.

Then again, we are talking about the team that wore this in a regulation game:

http://www.fansedge.com/Images.....6294-F.jpg

 
Mike Pop says:
 
 
 
 
pat says:

Frickin destroyed that.

 
Matt says:

Wow, ESPN’s putting OPS on their stat line, nice.

And bigger wow. The McCannibal is here.

 
Drew says:

WOWSAH! yea wbc is bad for getting ready for the season..

 
Jamal G. says:

You bastards still think it was an overdraft when I took Brian McCann with my second-round pick?

andrew says:
 
 
usty says:

Ugh…seeing as I’m taking a half day to drive from Trenton to Baltimore tomorrow, I’m really really really hoping I don’t have to do that on Tuesday too.

 

Is it wrong that I enjoyed the following sequence of events?

1.) Jon Miller lists McCann’s 2008 OPS of .896, an OPS that is pretty freakin awesome and legitimizes you as a middle of the order bat
2.) Steve Phillips pooh-poohs Brian McCann’s legitimacy as a middle of the order bat by saying that he’s not really an “aircraft carrier” kinda guy who can give you 40 homers and says that the Braves batting McCann 4th indicates that their lineup doesn’t really have any legit middle of the order bats
3.) McCann immediately hits a mammoth homer

Matt says:

Nope. Not at all. I <3 McCann so much.

Mike Pop says:

Yea, me too. Got both him and Chipper on my fantasy team.

 
 
Matt says:

indicates that their lineup doesn’t really have any legit middle of the order bats

Except, you know, Chipper Jones, the BEST FUCKING SWITCH HITTER EVER WHO’S NAME ISN’T MICKEY MANTLE.

Yes, but Chipper’s not an “aircraft carrier”.

Steve Phillips’s list of legit middle of the order bats:
1. Frank Thomas
2. Frank Howard

(end of list)

Mike Pop says:

Glad I googled Frank Howard, I was about to say….Ryan?

good thinking Mike!

Eh, you could throw him in there too, he’s appropriately large.

Just not that bastard Adam Dunn… he’s got no passion for the game. Screw that jerkface.

 
 
Mike R. - Retire 21 says:

3. Month Vaughn

Fixed.

 
 
Mike Pop says:

Where’s Old Ranger at to talk about how he watched the Mick play? Old Ranger, Old Ranger, where are you!!!

Sweet Dick Willie says:

I saw the Mick in one of the best games of his career. Memorial Day 1968 against the Washington Senators, he went 5 for 5 with 2 upper deck HRs. It was the 1st game of a DH, but by that stage of his career (his last year), he didn’t play both ends.

Mike Pop says:

That’s awesome. He is the one player I wish I saw play more than any other. For his size, he could hit the ball a mile. Too bad all he cared bout was partying.

 
 
 
 
 

Morgan: ” I think there’s a little different feeling with the Mets now about how they can close it out if they can get ahead…”

Too bad they won’t get ahead in the first place.

Matt says:

Not one mainstream analyst has acknowledged their average at best rotation.

Brett Myers clearly doesn’t understand that he’s supposed to be preventing runs.

 
Hobs says:

WOOOO! 1st at bat!

 
 
Mike Pop says:

Jeff making a comeback, he’s been here for years!

 
Drew says:

Good at bat young man

 
Mike Pop says:
 
Jamal G. says:

LoL, Brett Myers.

 
pat says:

No shit. Nady for schafer. DO IT

Steve H says:
Mike Pop says:

Heck, I’d throw in Kennedy and Melky.

VO says:

Let’s not push it now buddy.

 
 

Yeah, I was pimping the play hardball with the Braves and hold out for the Schafer for Nady swap, but I think the fact they handed the Opening Day start to him means that ship has sailed. Schafer’s going nowhere (unless he struggles mightily, that is).

Gorkys is probably all we can get here.

 
 
 

Ruh-Roh, Raggy…

Jamal G. says:

Weird, I was totally singing the intro all afternoon.

 
 
Matt says:

Way to go, Schafer.

 

This Schafer kid just might make it. Congrats kid.

 
Joey says:

Nice hit kid (can I call a guy 2 yrs older than me ‘kid’?)

handtius says:

My ears are bleeding. I can’t listen to these mouth whores.

 
 
 
Hobs says:
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andrew says:
Mike Pop says:

I don’t even know how to respond to this. Haha.

 
 
 
 
Matt says:

Haha, I was waiting for Morgan to say “slide piece.”

 
Yankeegirl49 says:

Im already tired of Miller, Morgan and Phillips!

 

Things you’ll hear a bunch this year:

“Ibañez is out number two.”

Matt says:

Terrible move, considering what Burrell ended up signing for.

You know why he hits well on each pitch, Steve? He’s a good fucking hitter.

Mike Pop says:

..And Dunn, and even lump Abreu in there. Isn’t Raul as bad defensively as all those guys.

Matt says:

Yep.

Stop teasing me ESPN. I know that game is going to get blacked out for me.

 

He’s worse than Burrell defensively. It’s amazing, Ibanez is a downgrade for the Phils in every possible way. He’s an inferior hitter to Burrell, and inferior defender, older, and he costs more per year over a longer period of time.

Ruben Amaro 0, Life 1

Matt says:

And that team has way too many left handed hitters.

 
 
RollingWave says:

They’re both horrible ut at least Abreu does a better job at concealing the fact

 
 
 
andrew says:

I’m not sure if I agree with that. He’s been one of the most consistent hitters over the last 3 years while playing in a pitcher’s park. I’m sure he’ll be just fine.

 
 
Matt says:

Get ready for a return trip to Lehigh Valley, Brett.

 
Drew says:

Brett Myers getting slapped around like his w… wait I won’t go there.

Mike Pop says:

That’s a no no, Drew.

 
 
Joey says:

this is what separates you and I from the likes of TSJC and pat…

Wait, how the hell did I get lumped in with that sick degenerate fucko pat?

pat says:

you mean THE degenerate fucko

 
 
 
 
 
pat says:

Our charleston pitching staff is gonna be the tits again this season. Brackman,Banuelos, Marshall, Mitchell. Booya

 
Jamal G. says:

Honestly, who would you guys put on the non-Ruth-Gehrig-DiMaggio-Mantle “Mt. Rushmore” of all-time Yankees? I’d say Yogi, Jeter, the Boss and the Chairman of the Board.

Are those your choices as well (please, don’t forget the first sentence)?

Hensley Meulens, Gerald “Ice” Williams, Kimberly Jones, and Elston Howard’s daughter.

 
Matt says:

I agree with that list.

 
VO says:

Kei Igawa, Melky Cabrera, Ian Kennedy, and Carl Pavano

 
 
Drew says:

Damn the braves ball girl down the line is hot.

Drew says:
 

Damn the braves Phillies ball girl down the line is hot.

And yes, she is.

Drew says:
 
 
Spaceman.Spiff says:

She could be my ball girl any day.

Mike Pop says:

You mean, like, play with your balls?

 
 
 
Jake H says:

http://www.riverdogs.com/dogs/team/

Here is the roster. Some interesting things on there.

I’ve got a post about that going live at 10pm.

Joey says:

Not too familiar with Dan Kapala. Anything special about him or should I wait til 10 to find out?

Nothing special, org arm.

Joey says:

6′5″, 220 lbs and no potential? Guess size isn’t everything (I know, thats NOT what she said)

Jeff Juden says hello.

Joey says:

Hi. *waves*

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Steve H says:

And El Busto Phil Hughes, who Cash should have traded for 6′0 195 lb Johan Santana.

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Mike R. - Retire 21 says:

Size isn’t everything? That’s not what your mother said Trebek!

 
 
 
 
Jake H says:

Mike do you think that Arodys will be called to Low A when Brackman gets sent to Tampa? How many starts do you see him getting in Charleston?

Probably not, he’s ticketed for one of the Short Season teams (probably Staten Island) after Ext. ST.

Jake H says:

marshall is listed at 6′1″ I swear he was only 5′11″ when he signed.

Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

A million dollar signing bonus will do that to a person.

 
 
 
 
 
Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

Brackman in Low-A is a bit of a surprise. Tells you how raw he still is, despite his age.

Nice to see Manny-Banny, Lassiter and Marshall on the roster. They have a few players that I’m real interested in following in their development.

 
 

God, I’m going to love watching that Pedroia commercial a thousand times this season.

Side note: Do you think Pedroia has all his furniture in his house custom ordered in smaller sizes so that he can actually reach the top shelves of his bookcases and entertainment stands? I say yes.

anonymous says:

He uses lifts. Cheaper.

 
 
 

Wow, Francoeur hit a homer and worked a 3-0 count in his first two at-bats of the season.

 

Jordan Schafer is the balls.

His voice makes wolverines purr.

He has many leatherbound books, and his apartment smells of rich mahogany.

 
 
Mike Pop says:

Does Schafer have the ceiling of Adam Jones, I mean how do they compare?

Jones > Schafer

Jones has more power and an infinitely better arm. Both are elite defenders, but Schafer struggles against lefties.

 
Joey says:

Scrappy/gritty, not as athletic, can’t jump as high

In all seriousness, Jones can be a superstar, a 30-30 Gold Glove center fielder like Beltran. Schafer will be an above average player, but he’s no Adam Jones.

Mike Pop says:

Ya, that is what I figured. When the M’s dealt him, I found it hard to believe…I shouldn’t have because we are talking bout the same guy who gave Silva (laughs) 48 million dollars. But, I remember hearing about Jones and how he was a future star.

Which Seattle deal is worse:

Jones/Tillman/Sherrill/Mickolio/Butler for Bedard
or
Lowe/Varitek for Slocumb

Definitely the Slocumb deal. Derek Lowe has been a workhorse #2-type starter for nearly a decade, and Varitek had a five year run as one of the three or four best catchers in the game.

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Mike Pop says:

How was it looked at, at the time of the trade though? Did Lowe and Tek project to be that good?

 

No one Lowe, yes on Varitek.

Looking at when the deal was made, I’d still go with that deal. Heathcliff Slocumb was a middling bullpen arm, at least Bedard was awesome before getting hurt.

 

True, but don’t you think Jones and Tillman both have the potential to be better players than Varitek and Lowe, respectively? Plus, the O’s got a closer and two more decent youngsters.

Right now, the Slocumb acquisition is clearly way dumber (especially since Slocumb is a freaking reliever), but 10 years from now, we could easily be saying “How the hell did the stupid Mariners give up Jones, Tillman, Sherrill AND Mickolio for that scrub Erik Bedard!!!”

 
Mike Pop says:

True that, Bedard was the man in 07. Remember when stupid O’s manager didn’t let him go CG on us and Shelley hit a 3 run dinger. But then Mo blew it ;(

 
 
Mike Pop says:

Bedard. Everyone knew they overpaid and Bedard got injured, maybe if they extend him and he pitches to 07 form for a couple seasons, it is okay. But Jones AND Tillman AND Sherrill. Baaaadddd.

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Joey says:

Jones has that much potential? I knew his floor was above average and ceiling superstar and as time has gone on it keeps looking like a superstar, but if thats the case what the hell were the Mariners thinking trading him for Bedard? Did they really think they were one pitcher away from winning it all or at least getting into the playoffs?

Two words: Bill Bavasi.

 
Steve H says:

Buster Olney expected them to win the West last year, so yes, I’m sure they thought they were contenders.

Matt says:

No one paid attention to their HUGE pythag gap in ‘07 and they were the trendy pck last year. Too bad.

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Steve H says:

Adam Jones can make it rain

Joey says:

true, I guess not everyone can be the awesome suX0r Cash-money is

Joey says:

dammit, meant to reply to the Bavasi comment

 
 
 
 
 
daniel aka bryce harper says:

Is it possible to have a worse booth than espn?
miller= the failed poet
morgan= the failed analyst/ user of english
phillips= the failed gm in pretty much every way

Miller is great when he does the Giants’ games away from Morgan. When he gets with Joe he gets stupid.

Joe Morgan is a broadcast booth cancer.

daniel aka bryce harper says:

having steve philips giving analysis in the booth is like matt millen giving analysis. also like asking stevie wonder to be an art critic.

Mike R. - Retire 21 says:

Matt Millen >>>>>>> Steve Philips

 
 
 
Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

If they were going to add a 3rd man to the booth, Steve Phillips was not the guy they were looking for.

 
 
 
pollo says:

hey guys gonna be joining you this year. NoMaas is cool but there’s too many personalities there lol. Is Betances moving to AA this year?

pat says:

If the cut in BB’s at the end of the season was the beginning of a trend rather than capitalizing on depleted rosters then yes. If he keeps walking 7 or 8 guys a start then no.

pollo says:

so he’s starting in A? Tampa I’m guessing then?

pat says:

He wasn’t listed on the charleston roster so I would think so.

 
 
Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

To be fair, even in the first half he didn’t walk a ton of guys in most of his starts. He walked his 2-4 guys a game, but then had horrendous outings here and there where he walked the ballpark, which drove up his overall rate. In the second half, he was much better and more consistent.

 
 

He could, but I don’t think so. No reason to rush him, and he’s got lots to work on.

Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

Mike, do you have the same impression I do about Dellin? That he’s going to slog his way through the minors, showing flashes of promise here and there, and then he will either put it all together one day and rocket to the big club or not do that and eventually be DFA’d in a few years.

It’s going to all come together at once, or not at all with him. He’s not a steady mover like a Z-Mac, he will either figure it out or not.

Heh, isn’t that how it usually goes?

Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

Not always. I can see guys like Z-Mac and Bleich gaining experience and going step by step annually through the minors since they don’t have overpowering stuff. But Betances is a guy I could see starting the year in Tampa and being called up in August if he breaks out.

 
 
 
 
 

Who is Logan Schafer?

Mike Pop says:

Fucking Jon Miller.

Mike Pop says:

Wow, he did it again.

 
 
Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

The dorky looking guy who hit the HR.

 
 
John says:

Is it too early to say Phillies wont repeat this year?

Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

Yes, but its not too early to say that both they and the Mets don’t have enough starting pitching.

Marlins are my sleeper team for this year. They have a new ballpark being built, so they won’t sell any major parts off at the trade deadline.

At the risk of sounding like Joe Morgan, there isn’t a single final order of the top four teams in the NL East (the Phillies, Braves, Mets, and Marlins) that would surprise me.

All four of them could win the division, but all four of them could easily finish 4th.

Mike Pop says:

I just hope that if the Marlins are in a race, Loria doesn’t decide to sell off Uggla and others to save some money. Go for the gold, Jeff, go for the gold!!!!

Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

I don’t think they will. They probably have the best starting 5 in the division, a good lineup and if Lindstrom is healthy, a solid closer. If they stay healthy and get a few surprise performances out of the bullpen, they’re as good or better than anyone in that division.

 
 
Matt says:

Joe Morgan just made a very bold prediction: Ryan Braun will be a good hitter for years to come.

 
 
 
 
 
Matt says:

Did Joe Morgan really just say that Greg Dobbs is as important to the Phillies as Rollins, Utley, and Howard?

 

Good God have I missed meaningful baseball.

John says:

so you’re saying winter ball, theWBC and spring training are not meaningful?

 
 
donttradecano says:

Jordan Schafer starting in my fantasy lineup FTW.

 
Matt says:

Stat Track? Isn’t that just the box score?

 
Mike Pop says:
 

Totally unnecessary pitching move. Taschner looked fine last inning, no reason he can’t stay in to face the two lefties. This is why teams blow games in the late innings. The more relievers you use, the more likely it is that someone will flat out suck.

 
 
Artist formerly known as 'The' Steve says:

Worst kept secret in Baseball, Ryan Howard can’t hit a slider.

 

That Lincecum commercial is great. The kid had the same freaking delivery in Little League.

andrew says:

Couldn’t find it on Youtube. if you find a link, let me know

 
 
pat says:

Nerd Alert- This is so annoying, I’m playing as my RTTS pitcher and the effing manager insists on pulling me from a game if I give up a hit past the 5th or 6th inning. I’ll be cruising along with like 2 hits 7k and 0BB with plenty of stamina and the dick pulls me after 65 or 70 pitches and costs me a bunch of points. Does this get better as your player gets older or does the computer always screw you?

Mike Pop says:

I’m not sure really, but I had a PERFECT GAME going one time with the Cubs, was at 8 2/3….they pulled me.

I haven’t throw a no-no or a perfect game in any version of The Show yet. Last one I threw was with a computer generated player I recruited in the third season of my Penn State dynasty in MVP 06 NCAA Baseball. That game kicked ass.

I got close with Pettitte once, I think there was one out in the ninth. I don’t remember who got the hit, but I remember I was on the road against the ChiSox.

Mike Pop says:

I played on easy mode though.

donttradecano says:

threw a no-no with rich harden earlier today… woulda been a perfect game if josh fields didnt overthrow first base.

 
pat says:

In order to keep my PS and controller in working condition i had to switch down to the easy mode too. The all star or whatever version i was playing on was driving me absolutely insane. The fielders were so terrible and everytime the computer got the bat on the ball it would dun in for a hit.

I moved up to HOF this year. The pitching difficulty is perfect, but I can’t hit for shit. I have to adjust with sliders to make it fair, otherwise I’d get crushed.

 
Matt says:

Whenever I was in the minors in ‘08, all the INFs were like Ryan Braun at third and all the OFs had the range of Adam Dunn. It’s gotten slightly better in ‘09.

 
 
 
Matt says:

I did one with Hamels in MLB 08 and one with Pavano in MVP 05.

JMl G. says:

I did one online with Clemens in the 2007 game.

Yeah, beat that, bitches.

Jamal G. says:

Whoah, that above comment was from me, just screwed up the handle.

 
Jamal G. says:

Whoah, that comment was from me, just screwed up the spelling.

 
Matt says:

PG w/Pavano >>>>>>> PG w/Clemens.

Jamal G. says:

Doing it online >>>>>>>>>>>> Doing it against AI.

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Anytime I ever dominated an online opponent through like, 3 innings, they quit. So I stopped playing online all together.

 
 
 
 
 
 
VO says:

The first time I made the all-star game in the bigs, and hey sent me down the day before.

pat says:

Ugh that sucks. Nice 500 point bonus for pitching in an AS game, plus all the regular goals are worh like 25 points. Allstar games are nice.

 
 
 
Matt says:

Usually, you can just ask not to get pulled so early and the manager will usually agree. But,yeah, it is annoying as shit.

 
Drew says:

I’m not sure about this year but last year if you complained to the manager after the game about gettting pulled he’ll leave you out longer in the next game. Of course there is the chance that he makes you skip the next start for complaining.

Matt says:

That’s why I’d always save after the first game…just in case.

Mike Pop says:
 
 
 
 
donttradecano says:

what time would the game be on tuesday if it gets moved?

 
anonymous says:

Im really happy the Red Sox were to cheap to sign Lowe.

Mike Pop says:

Aww, let him go 9!!!

 

Me too.

I still think Lowe is a damn good pitcher. I think the Braves will be damn happy with that 4 year contract.

(True, they’d have been much, much happier with a 3 year contract, but it is what it is.

I love the Javy Vazquez pickup too. Between him and Lowe, and you know exactly what you’re getting two out of every five days.

Matt says:

If they had just a tad more hitting, I’d have picked them for winning that division.

 
 
 
 

Lowe’s cruisin’.

It’s okay, why bother to take a pitch or two at this point in the game? Swinging at the first fastball you see has worked wonders all night …

Matt says:

Their pitch selection has been AWFUL all night.

 
 
 

Why take Lowe out? He’s at 97 pitches and hasn’t pitched under stress once all game.

And here we go …

handtius says:

Here we go is right…not like I car. I don’t see a Yankee uni anywhere.

 
 
 
Matt says:

A little early on the “it’s all come together” line there, Steve.

 
handtius says:

I would have liked the yanks to have gotten this Gonzales guy, back when they had a chance. Sick lefty. But Marte is good.

 
 
Mike Pop says:

What are you looking at?

handtius says:

an old Sylvania 100 bl. TV

 
 
Jamal G. says:

Mike Gonzalez has cojones.

 

Heh, wouldn’t they like to have the righty Burrell right now?

handtius says:

I concur. a chunk-O-lefties.

 
anonymous says:
 
 
Jamal G. says:

That’s bush league, Gonzalez, it’s only Game 1 of 162!

 
Jamal G. says:

Why the fuck is Joe Morgan talking about “fighting back” after Game 1? Why?! Mo, tell me why!

Matt says:

The way Phillips was talking about Frank Wren was even worse.

 
 
Matt says:

Renee Montgomery > A.J. Price.

 
handtius says:

River Ave Guys:

Did you guys ever consider doing an open chat as a game thread? That way there is no refreshing needed and it makes conversation a lot easier. Just an idea, but you probably already thought of it and ruled it out for reasons unknown to me.

Joey says:

just my 2 cents, but it’s easier to reply and converse in these threads than it would be in a mass free for all game chat. If you want to talk about one topic here it’s easy while other people are talking about something totally different below. The chats could get a very confusing.

Don’t know how long you’ve been around, but if a thread gets too long and takes a while to re-load just suggest to one of the guys to make an overflow thread which they did many times last year.

handtius says:

I’ve been looking at the site for a few years, never comment a ton, but when I do, I just find the constant reloading annoying. It’s never really slow, just don’t like constantly refreshing, regardless of what it is.

 
andrew says:

Yea I would have to agree. One thing I do find annoying about game threads (I am guilty of it too), is that people just post things like… “nice grab by tex” or things like that, that don’t necessarily start conversation and just take up space and make the game threads harder to get through sometimes, but I acknowledge that having a thread with the refreshing is the easiest way to have everyone’s voices heard. And with the new feature that shows which posts are new, it makes weeding through a giant game thread much much easier than last year.

handtius says:

what if it could e sent inside a flash template, that auto-refreshes, but still exists as the comment thread does now, where conversations stay linked, but as people respond to a comment it shows up, instead of the whole page refreshing. Does that makes sense?

Joey says:

Makes sense, propose it to Mike, the only thing is how much would it cost and how complicated would it be to get/put on here. I really have no idea.

 

That would crush our bandwidth and cripple the site.

A live chat would be too messy since there are multiple conversations going on at once. One thing we’ve talked about in paginated comments, with 100 or so comments to page to speed up load times. The feature that shows new comments should help a lot this year.

 
 
Joey says:

Eh, if it’s a game thread everyone likes to discuss the game. If Tex makes a nice grab it shouldn’t be looked down upon when a few people comment “nice glove” or whatever. I see what you’re saying that it makes it a little harder to get through everything, but you can skip right over those, they really aren’t conversation starters. It’s like chatting with people at the bar, screaming at Jetes because he missed a ball to his left or yelling in joy when he hits a HR.

Plus like you said, with the new Yankee symbol new comment things, it should be much easier to find new comments if you’re so inclined to do so.

Anyway, I put way to much time into that. lol

 
 
 
 
Paulie says:

Ramiro Pena vs. Alberto Gonzalez

Defense?
Offense?
Potential upside?

pat says:

Alberto Gonzalez isn’t on the team anymore.

andrew says:

well thats one of the reasons its an interesting question… why trade Gonzalez for basically nothing if he may have been utility IF this year?

handtius says:

We got Jonathan Ablaladao or however you spell that ginormous last name. He’s a pretty big arm, hopefully.

They got Albaladejo for Tyler Clippard. they got Jhonny Nunez for A-Gonz. Nunez was included in a package for Swisher.

handtius says:

Oh yes..sorry…mixed up them trades…but in a round-a-bout way, I made my point. he helped us get swisher!

 
 
 
 
 

Defense: Push
Offense: AG
Potential: At this point, Pena.

 
 
donttradecano says:

can someone explain why elvis andrus isnt active in yahoo yet?

He hasn’t played in a game yet.

 
 
Drew says:

about 16 hours to yankees baseball!!!

 
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