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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/04/the-joba-video-9954/#comment-322909</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it&#039;s not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/04/the-joba-video-9954/#comment-322908</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;You’re, in effect, arguing that driving drunk and/or speeding is ok as long as nobody actually gets hurt…&lt;/b&gt;

No.  I&#039;m not.

I&#039;m arguing that driving drunk isn&#039;t &quot;endangering the lives of others&quot; unless it actually did endanger the lives of others, in which case it&#039;s driving drunk AND endangering the lives of others.

Saying that Joba drove drunk but didn&#039;t endanger the lives of others doesn&#039;t mean I think it&#039;s okay, it&#039;s still wrong, it&#039;s just less wrong that it would have been had he been driving drunk AND endangering the lives of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>You’re, in effect, arguing that driving drunk and/or speeding is ok as long as nobody actually gets hurt…</b></p>
<p>No.  I&#8217;m not.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m arguing that driving drunk isn&#8217;t &#8220;endangering the lives of others&#8221; unless it actually did endanger the lives of others, in which case it&#8217;s driving drunk AND endangering the lives of others.</p>
<p>Saying that Joba drove drunk but didn&#8217;t endanger the lives of others doesn&#8217;t mean I think it&#8217;s okay, it&#8217;s still wrong, it&#8217;s just less wrong that it would have been had he been driving drunk AND endangering the lives of others.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/04/the-joba-video-9954/#comment-322696</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a DUI on my 23rd birthday.  I even tried to evade the police. 

I am 43 now.  It has never hindered me one bit.

Joel Sherman should stfu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a DUI on my 23rd birthday.  I even tried to evade the police. </p>
<p>I am 43 now.  It has never hindered me one bit.</p>
<p>Joel Sherman should stfu.</p>
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		<title>By: zack</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/04/the-joba-video-9954/#comment-322536</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, no, that is exactly what you did argue TJSC, whether you meant to or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, no, that is exactly what you did argue TJSC, whether you meant to or not.</p>
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		<title>By: zack</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/04/the-joba-video-9954/#comment-322533</link>
		<dc:creator>zack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it does. Going faster than the legal speed limit, by enough to warrant being pulled over (15 mph) is illegal precisely because it IS deemed dangerous, to one&#039;s self and to others. Otherwise, the limit would be 70 mph, where it is in many place. Just because many of us go that fast on such roads doesn&#039;t make it not dangerous or reckless. We all do lots of things that endanger the lives of others, but driving intoxicating and speeding is a far more serious and dangerous act.

Your differentiation between the &quot;legal abstract sense&quot; and the &quot;actual historical sense&quot; is a sophistic fallacy. Its an endless slippery slope to claiming that anything that is dangerous isn&#039;t in and of itself an endangerment. Me carrying a loaded gun around town by that same definition &quot;does not mean that [...] it is explicitly an endangerment to the lives of others.&quot; But it sure as hell is and is treated as such by the police.

And the same thing with driving under the influence. Just because nobody got hurt, that Joba may be the best driver or drinker in the world, or any other excuse, doesn&#039;t mean that he wasn&#039;t endangering people&#039;s lives. 

You&#039;re, in effect, arguing that driving drunk and/or speeding is ok as long as nobody actually gets hurt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it does. Going faster than the legal speed limit, by enough to warrant being pulled over (15 mph) is illegal precisely because it IS deemed dangerous, to one&#8217;s self and to others. Otherwise, the limit would be 70 mph, where it is in many place. Just because many of us go that fast on such roads doesn&#8217;t make it not dangerous or reckless. We all do lots of things that endanger the lives of others, but driving intoxicating and speeding is a far more serious and dangerous act.</p>
<p>Your differentiation between the &#8220;legal abstract sense&#8221; and the &#8220;actual historical sense&#8221; is a sophistic fallacy. Its an endless slippery slope to claiming that anything that is dangerous isn&#8217;t in and of itself an endangerment. Me carrying a loaded gun around town by that same definition &#8220;does not mean that [...] it is explicitly an endangerment to the lives of others.&#8221; But it sure as hell is and is treated as such by the police.</p>
<p>And the same thing with driving under the influence. Just because nobody got hurt, that Joba may be the best driver or drinker in the world, or any other excuse, doesn&#8217;t mean that he wasn&#8217;t endangering people&#8217;s lives. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re, in effect, arguing that driving drunk and/or speeding is ok as long as nobody actually gets hurt&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph M</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/04/the-joba-video-9954/#comment-322422</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the video, based on the road test I  thought the officer could have cut him some slack.  I also thought the officer was a bit full of himself.  That said, Joba was wrong and he paid the price for it.  

We have to be honest here, Joba is a baseball player not choir boy there is a certain attitude that goes with that, cocky, entitled, arrogant rulebrakers maybe it just goes with the territory.

A few months ago newspapers all over the country were fawning all over Ted Kennedy as word came down about his failing health, this was a man who at the age of 37 drove a car off a bridge killing a young woman in the process.  He then left the scene of the accident, spending the next 12 hours getting his story straight and ponding his political future.  They will order the flags flown at half mast the day he dies.  My poiny, this will pass.

As far as Francesa goes, two words, Don Imus. Francesa spent more than 15 years kissing the rear end of a man who spent the 70&#039;s and 80&#039;s in a substance abuse haze. Francesa should keep that in mind before he opens his mouth about this situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the video, based on the road test I  thought the officer could have cut him some slack.  I also thought the officer was a bit full of himself.  That said, Joba was wrong and he paid the price for it.  </p>
<p>We have to be honest here, Joba is a baseball player not choir boy there is a certain attitude that goes with that, cocky, entitled, arrogant rulebrakers maybe it just goes with the territory.</p>
<p>A few months ago newspapers all over the country were fawning all over Ted Kennedy as word came down about his failing health, this was a man who at the age of 37 drove a car off a bridge killing a young woman in the process.  He then left the scene of the accident, spending the next 12 hours getting his story straight and ponding his political future.  They will order the flags flown at half mast the day he dies.  My poiny, this will pass.</p>
<p>As far as Francesa goes, two words, Don Imus. Francesa spent more than 15 years kissing the rear end of a man who spent the 70&#8242;s and 80&#8242;s in a substance abuse haze. Francesa should keep that in mind before he opens his mouth about this situation.</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/04/the-joba-video-9954/#comment-322410</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, part of what I just said isn&#039;t entirely accurate.  Let me rephrase.

Probably. Just not assuredly. Moreover, driving with alcohol in your system is indeed driving with “reduced reflexes”, but driving with reduced reflexes is not NECESSARILY unfairly endangering the lives of others.  It&#039;s not that cut and dry.

Many people can drink, beyond the legal limit, and not have their reflexes impacted to the point where their driving becomes dangerous.  It depends on the human physiological effects, which vary from person to person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, part of what I just said isn&#8217;t entirely accurate.  Let me rephrase.</p>
<p>Probably. Just not assuredly. Moreover, driving with alcohol in your system is indeed driving with “reduced reflexes”, but driving with reduced reflexes is not NECESSARILY unfairly endangering the lives of others.  It&#8217;s not that cut and dry.</p>
<p>Many people can drink, beyond the legal limit, and not have their reflexes impacted to the point where their driving becomes dangerous.  It depends on the human physiological effects, which vary from person to person.</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/04/the-joba-video-9954/#comment-322402</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STOP GIVING THEM IDEAS!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STOP GIVING THEM IDEAS!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/04/the-joba-video-9954/#comment-322401</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know of at least one of my high school teachers who had multiple DUI&#039;s and never missed a day of teaching.

He was actually a pretty good teacher, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know of at least one of my high school teachers who had multiple DUI&#8217;s and never missed a day of teaching.</p>
<p>He was actually a pretty good teacher, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/04/the-joba-video-9954/#comment-322400</link>
		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Just because no one dove out of the way of his car doesn’t mean it wasn’t dangerous for him to be driving.&lt;/b&gt;

But it might.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Just because no one dove out of the way of his car doesn’t mean it wasn’t dangerous for him to be driving.</b></p>
<p>But it might.</p>
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