A pair of ostentatious Stadium tales

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Yesterday afternoon, I dropped in a story about the impending sale of Yankee Stadium memorabilia. After nearly a year of negotiations, the City and Yanks had come to terms on an $11.5-million deal that transfers memorabilia rights to the team. At 11 a.m., the Yankees and Steiner Sports will announce the terms of the sale.

We though know the prices are going to be shocking. Yesterday, reports indicated that seats — the blue plastic seats that always seemed to be falling apart — would sell for around $1500. Today, The Times offers us a correction. “The Yankees,” Ken Belson writes, “are selling pairs of seats for $1,923, a nod to the year the original Yankee Stadium opened.”

As a comparison, the seats from Shea Stadium were offered up at $869 a pair. The Mets weren’t able to sell all of them, and now the Yankees are going to try to sell theirs for more than twice that amount in a worse market. I, a lifelong fan of the team, could go out and buy a pair of seats from the old stadium or I could pay this month’s rent and credit card bill.

As they’ve done across the street, the Yankees are pricing these seats well above the level most fans would consider paying for them. My dad owns a seat from the original Yankee Stadium. He got it because his mother bought two cartons of cigarettes and paid $7.50 for it. At $1923 for those Yankee Stadium II seats, I can only imagine how much the Monument Park bricks are going to cost.

Meanwhile, another seat pricing issue has continued to be a thorn in the Yankees’ side. Yankees season-ticket holder Keith Olbermann did what many reporters and bloggers didn’t do: He read and parsed the Yanks’ cryptic press release on the refunds for the über-expensive seats that remain empty. He writes:

As it is, the Yankees are actually not giving refunds or credits to almost any of their fans. A Yankee source did say that as many as four ticket-buyers – literally, four customers, in the suites hanging from the upper deck in left and right fields – would wind up with some extra perks. But the source added they weren’t certain: it might only be three customers.

The understandable confusion seems to owe to the first subheading… It reads “the full season Legends Suite and Ticket Licenses in the first row in Sections 15A, 15B, 24B and 25 will be reduced from $2,500 to $1,250 per regular season game. All fans who have purchased such full season Suite and Ticket Licenses will receive, at their choice, a refund or a credit.”

The thing is, sections 15A and 15B are at the far end of the Yankee dugout – most are behind the camera well beyond the dugout – and sections 24B and 25 are their opposites behind the visiting dugout…I’m reliably informed that the Yankees didn’t manage to sell any of those seats, so there’s no refund to be had. Reality here reads like something out of “Catch-22″: you can get a refund on those tickets, but only if you haven’t bought them. And you can now buy many of those high-end tickets at half the original price, except you can’t, because the Yankees gave them away as make-goods…

But there was a certain apparent inequity to the way the Yankee ticket adjustment was framed – an inequity caused mostly by that blasted press release – that the franchise didn’t deserve. It was not offering a fifty percent rebate to the highest of the high rollers, and a token handful of tickets to the next group down. It was giving the people who did buy tickets, all the rest of the tickets that nobody had bought.

The Yankees refused to comment for a Times reporter poking around this story. “We’re kind of done talking about this,” Alice McGillion, a spokeswoman for the team, said to Ken Belons. “I have no idea if it’s true, and it’s not the kind of question I’m going to go ask about.”

I too am “reliably informed” that the Yankees didn’t manage to sell those seats to which Olbermann refers. I’ve been to two regular season games, I’ve received e-mails with pictures and first-hand accounts from fans at other games, and I’ve watched nearly every home game on TV. Every time, those seats are mentioned are completely devoid of fans.

So again, the Yankees are seemingly thumbing their noises at, well, everyone. George Steinbrenner got his stadium and lost his health and team. We’re living an era in which Yankee officials want power and money without realizing that the fans give them both. These prices — $1923 for old seats and a phony refund/discount program — are the proof that the men in charge do not recognize what George, despite his flaws, always knew: The customer — the Yankee fan — should be respected.

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  • Scott of 3 Kids Tickets

    This team just continues to disrespect me, so I fight the only way I can – with my wallet. I’m usually good for 15 shirts, 5 hats, a jersey or 2, and food/beer for 25ish games a year. No longer. I bought one Texiera shirt before I knew my seat location, and that’s gonna be it clotheswise. I’ll be bringing food to the stadium when I go, which will be almost never due to the fact my seats suck (after 12 years of awesome seats at the old stadium). No beer. I’m done. After being a Yankee fan since 1st grade (30 some-odd years ago) I’m at the end of my rope with their front office.

    -Scott

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Scott, we have different definitions of being “disrespected”.

      But whatever, fight the good fight if you feel you’ve been aggrieved, that’s your American right.

      • jsbrendog

        this is AH-MUR-ICA!! if you don’t like eet you can GEEET OOOUTT!

        at least they didnt tik or jorbs

    • GoTerpsGo

      Gotta vote with your wallet – that’s the loudest way fans can make their voices heard.

    • Mike Pop

      Okay, okay Scott. We know your feeling, but what I really want to know is The Whizzo’s feeling on this.

      • jsbrendog

        seconded

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          I want to know what Januz thinks about this.

          • jsbrendog

            well played

  • http://thebatshatters.blogspot.com the artist formerly known as (sic)

    DONT TREAD ON ME!

  • steve (different one)

    the ticket situation sucks, and i am not going to defend what they did there, but i don’t have a problem with them charging whatever they can get for the memorabilia.

    no one has a “right” to be able to afford old seats from the stadium. let them charge what the market can bear.

    not everyone can afford everything they want to own, myself included. so what? the premise of this article seems to be that you, b/c you are a lifelong fan, are owed the right to buy these seats at an affordable price despite the fact that there may be other fans willing to pay more than you.

    Shea was a dump, no one really cares that it is gone. so if people are paying $900/pair for those, people probably WILL pay $1900/pair for seats from Yankee stadium. as for it being a worse market, well, that’s the Yankees’ problem. if no one buys them, the prices will fall. simple as that.

    • William

      Couldn’t agree more. The Yankees are fronting $11.5mn to the city for the right to sell this material. I guess the City could have given it away, but they chose to make a buck. So, why can’t the Yankees. The sense of entitlement people feel regarding this new Stadium is incredible. I can understand it if the team didn’t pour enormous amounts of resources into fielding a quality team, but the Yankees certainly do that.

      Also, if the Yankees sold a pair of seats for $10 or even $100, do you not think many of the fans who bought them would go right to Ebay in an attempt to make a profit? What it comes down to is everyone should make a profit, but the Yankees.

      • jsbrendog

        what amazes me is the city only gets 11.5 mil? doesnt that seem a little light? my LIRR pass is giopng up 10% in june lol couldnt they have negotiated more to help with this whole our city is hemorrhaging $$$ thing?

        • William

          The Yankees now have to turn around and remove, market and eventually sell this stuff. If the city did it all, they’d probably record a loss on the project. Instead, they get a nice tidy sum up front and leave the work up to the Yankees and Steiner.

          • jsbrendog

            yeah, true. marketing and what not and associated fees.

            • Marsha

              I heard on the radio this morning that the Mets and the city are splitting the proceeds of the sale of Mets stuff 70-30. That is, 70% for the city and 30% for the Mets. So I agree with jsbrendog that the Yanks sure got a good deal. A lot of people want a piece of the old stadium.

  • William

    Count me as a Yankee fan who has nothing to complain about with the new Stadium. I too am a long-time fan, and I was treated well during the relocation process. I had a tier reserve seat behind home plate beforehand, and have a grandstand seat behind home plate now. The facility is fabulous and amenities are impressive. The new Yankee Stadium is befitting a team with the Yankees’ championship history. I realize it has become fashionable to rail against some aspects, especially in light of the current economy, but that sentiment seems to be owned by a very vocal minority. I’ve been to 6 games already, and the reviews from everyone I’ve talked to are overwhelmingly positive.

    I wonder if the same people who are so up in arms over prices are also those who demand the Yankees sign every free agent? I guess most Yankee fans not only want their cake, but expect the team to feed it them as well.

    • jsbrendog

      The facility is fabulous and amenities are impressive.

      tangent alert!

      i agree. but, not ntpicking, because i truly could care less, just out of curiosity, why do you think that in such a new fangled stadium with top of the line amenities (working water fountains!!!) the toilets are nto auto flush yet the sinks are auto on? i found that odd personally

      • William

        Probably because their is a lot of traffic in front of the toilets, and also because toilets probably use a lot more water. If the Yankees had auto flush toilets, they’d probably be slammed for not caring about the Earth.

        • jsbrendog

          possibly. yet shitty field has them. youre prob right about the whoe water thing. personally i am not going to touch the handle of any stadium toilet so the only chance of it getting flushed is automatically.

          • William

            I went to City Field yesterday and the bathroom floors aren’t even finished. They are bare stone…on all levels (I checked because I was surprised). It also seems as if several areas surrounding ramps and stairs are unfinished as well.

            City Field was very nice, but the new Yankee Stadium is a much more polished facility.

            Also, save water advocates actually argue that public urinals shouldn’t be flushed after every use anyway, so may I guess the Yankees are doing their part to save the Earth.

            • jsbrendog

              so wait….youre saying the yankees can in fact possibly maybe do something right/good??

              ::head explodes::

    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      “I wonder if the same people who are so up in arms over prices are also those who demand the Yankees sign every free agent? I guess most Yankee fans not only want their cake, but expect the team to feed it them as well.”

      I’m totally stealing someone’s joke here… I think it was steve (different one)’s… But that one little part of your comment that I quoted above is like the bat-signal for dumb comments about people who don’t LOVE the new stadium. That comment, along with something like “well that’s business, the Yankees want to make money.” As if people who don’t love the new stadium don’t understand that the Yankees want, and have every right, to make the most money possible.

      I’m sorry, William, the rest of your comment was perfectly reasonable. That one little part just drives me nuts, it’s a pet peeve of mine. I don’t love the new stadium, and I think it’s pretty clear the Yankees made some mistakes. I want the Yankees to make money, and I want the Yankees to continue spending money on personnel and player development so they can continue to provide a top-level product and compete at the highest levels. It’s not like I want the Yankees to give away all the tickets for free and then go spend $200 million on payroll. Your comment about “people who are up in arms but want the Yankees to sign every free agent” is just silly.

      Let’s please put that comment to bed when we discuss the new stadium.

      • jsbrendog

        +1

        if the rest of the post hadnt been so well put and reasonable i might’ve dropped an O-bomb. but i let it slide. but i agree, from henceforth, such comments shall be an oaktag offense.

        • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          Apologies for the long-winded comment… It’s just… It’s really an ad hominem argument and a straw-man argument, rolled into one. It’s not an argument about the merits or weaknesses of complaints/criticism of the new stadium, it’s an attempt to discredit people who don’t love the new stadium as somewhat ignorant by assigning a made-up argument to those people. Some people who don’t love the new stadium may be less than wise, just like some people who love the new stadium and defend it are less than wise. There are plenty of people with reasonable criticism of the new stadium and there are perfectly reasonable arguments against such actual criticism without relying on that kind of stuff.

          • jsbrendog

            what? i agree with what you said i wasnt saying aboutyour comment, your comment was fine, i was referring to the free agent/money./ticket price argument. sorry for the confusion

            • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              Oh I didn’t think you were disagreeing or anything, I was just expounding on my first comment.

      • William

        I am sorry you feel that way, but I think it is a perfectly reasonable argument. If you think the Yankees should spend as much money it takes to field a winner, then you have give them so rope in their attempt to make as much as possible. Instead of treating every attempt to increase revenue as a crime against fandom, we need to have some perspective. Attacking the Yankees for being “greedy” without looking at what they spend their money on is what I think is silly.

        • Chris

          I agree with you on this.

        • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          But you’re making a major, faulty, assumption. Leaving aside whether people who criticize the stadium want the Yankees to sign every free agent on the market (which is silly and unfair), you’re assuming there’s no way to make money other than the way the Yankees have chosen. Nobody is treating every attempt to increase revenue as “a crime against fandom.” You are assigning that argument to your opponents because it’s an easy way to discredit them (by discrediting that fake argument).

          • William

            I am not saying any of those things…just that the hyperbole being used in many criticisms of the Yankees seem to come from the angle that the Yankees are greedy, heartless and cruel to their adoring and loyal fans. It is toward the people expressing that sentiment that I posed the question. If someone is making a reasonable point about the Yankees missteps (and there are a few) with regard to this park, it deserves a direct response. But, when blanket statements are made, it does make me question the perspective of those offering them up.

            • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              “If someone is making a reasonable point about the Yankees missteps (and there are a few) with regard to this park, it deserves a direct response. But, when blanket statements are made, it does make me question the perspective of those offering them up.”

              I agree, but you didn’t make your comment in response to anyone, it’s a stand-alone comment in its own comment-thread. Are you saying that your comment was a direct response to Ben’s post? Is that the context in which your comment that “people who criticize the new stadium are probably are same people who want the Yankees to sign every free agent” is meant to be interpreted? As a direct response to Ben?

              Whatever. Even if you’re responding to someone directly, I still think that part of your comment is irrelevant. Whether someone wants the Yankees to sign every free agent is irrelevant to their criticism of the new stadium, in my mind, because in order for that comment to be relevant the people you’re arguing with would have to believe that the Yankees shouldn’t try to make money, and I don’t think anyone in their right mind, even a moron, thinks that. It’s an over-simplification, it makes a very complex issue into a black or white issue.

              • William

                In all honesty, yes, I do think many of the posts and subsequent comments here have been excessively critical of the New Stadium. Everyone has a right to whatever opinion they’d like, but I think it should be backed up with both evidence and perspective. I do agree with you that my rhetorical question isn’t needed to prove my point, but I do think it illustrates and speaks to a real undercurrent of sentiment, which might not exist in full here, but does in many other forums.

                However, I will agree with you that my oversimplification, while meant to a prove a point, isn’t a very valuable argument. Of course, neither is hyperbole like “So again, the Yankees are seemingly thumbing their noises at, well, everyone.”

                I hate to seem like I am picking on Ben (I am not sure if it has been Ben who has penned most of the critical pieces on YSIII), but on this one issue, I think most of the posts have been way off base.

                • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  “Everyone has a right to whatever opinion they’d like, but I think it should be backed up with both evidence and perspective.”

                  I agree, and that rule applies to you too. If you take issue with that one line of Ben’s, say so in your comment. That’s fair game. But that’s not what your comment said. You made a baseless generalization about people who criticize the new stadium. You’re the one who asked the hypothetical question about those who criticize the new stadium (“I wonder if the same people who are so up in arms over prices are also those who demand the Yankees sign every free agent? I guess most Yankee fans not only want their cake, but expect the team to feed it them as well.”).

                • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  “I hate to seem like I am picking on Ben (I am not sure if it has been Ben who has penned most of the critical pieces on YSIII), but on this one issue, I think most of the posts have been way off base.”

                  How so? I know you take issue with that one little line expressing Ben’s opinion on the matter, but do you take issue with the rest of the post or the other posts he’s written on the stadium? You were right that opinions should be backed up by “both evidence and perspective.” If you take issue with Ben’s posts, you should go ahead and explain what points you disagree with and why instead of just saying “I don’t like the negativity and I think the people who criticize the stadium are the same people who want the Yankees to sign every free agent.”

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

                  William: I’d love to hear what evidence and/or perspective is missing from the stadium posts.

                  I’ve written about why the new stadium was a bad deal for the city with evidence. I’ve explained why I think watching a game at the new stadium pales in comparison to the old stadium with both evidence and my own perspective. And I’ve provided ample quotes that show why and how the current Yankee leadership — the business leadership — doesn’t care about the people who aren’t spending money.

                  The stadium and the team are no longer about the fans to those in charge. Say what you will about Steinbrenner, but he kept one eye on his money and another on the fans. Trost and Levine simply haven’t done that.

                • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  “Say what you will about Steinbrenner, but he kept one eye on his money and another on the fans. Trost and Levine simply haven’t done that.”

                  You know I can’t let a positive comment about GMS3 go by without throwing some cold water on it. There’s no way we know that the same thing wouldn’t be happening if George were still in charge now, or that he wouldn’t have done the same thing 10 years ago if he’d had the wherewithal (7 years of YES Network money and an insane, and unsustainable, real estate bubble) and the chips fell into place earlier. His story has largely been rewritten the last few years, we shouldn’t forget the 80s reign of terror.

                  On the flip side… I’m willing to concede that if all this stuff had occurred under George’s watch, he probably would have personally taken a sledgehammer to that concrete wall separating the super-fantastic premium seats from the rest of the seats and done some other stuff to remedy some of the early problems after the first homestand. Not one for patience, that George.

  • JP

    The Yankees are just doing what all of baseball does, only on the inflated Yankee scale. Anyone who complains should simply remember that the Yankees need to do all of this to make their luxury tax payments. The Red Sox operate the same way, only on a slightly more modest scale, yet like the Yankees well ahead of the remainder of the league.

    But I do share the sentiment that I wish they hadn’t gone so far over the top. It’s one thing to want to be the best, it’s another thing to do 5 times as much as you need to do to be the best. There are so many new ballparks today, all of them beautiful, and most of them costing half or less what the Bronx Mausoleum cost. I suspect the reason the team looks miserly with ticket prices and the memorabilia sell off is that they don’t have the option of backing off those prices. The investment in the stadium is huge, and the payroll of the team is huge.

    But imagine if they had opted for a scale closer to PNC Park. By all accounts, this is one of the most beautiful stadiums ever constructed, and it cost the Pirates $300 million or less, compared to the $1.3 billion of Yankee. Building a beautiful park economically would have allowed them to price the seats more modestly, and we’d see the stadium full. The sight of all those empty seats, and an old team getting blown out by the Indians, Rays, and Red Sox is about as big an embarassment as any Yankee fan can take.

    All this is easy to say now, I know…the stadium plans were hatched when the economy was roaring and there didn’t seem to be any shortage of money floating around. I just hope the team doesn’t get over extended, and the economy worsens, such that the stadium goes south, so to speak.

  • jsbrendog

    eh, i couldnt afford most stuff when i was in college so im used to it. ill start saving now so the great great grankdids can buy seats from yankee stadium III to commemorate the 25 mroe WS championships won there, all at home, none on the road

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      This current Yankee Stadium will not be demolished and sold as memorabilia, because it’s never going to become outdated and in need of replacement.

      It’s a Transformer.

      • jsbrendog

        i hope its a cool one like jazz or soundwave and not a stupid one like bumblebee.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

          Your balls are showing. Bumblebee tuna.

          • jsbrendog

            re-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-heealy?

        • Tom Zig

          Starscream would be kinda cool…

          • tim randle

            please, no transformers analogy:

            jazz dies…gmc is life imitating art…don’t want yankees involved in that…

  • Nady Nation

    The whole seating debacle at the new Stadium is really a shame. And the worst part is, it’s not even just the premium field level seats that are empty. There are a few sections on the Main level that have been almost completely empty every game I’ve been to (about 5-6 so far). Pretty much every section of the Stadium outside of the bleachers you’re able to find spare seats, and plenty of them. I think there are several factors at play aside from just the Yanks’ overpricing (most notably the disastrous economy), so I’m not JUST going to blame the organization. But, it’s been really upsetting going to a beautiful brand new Stadium that’s basically been lifeless. One of the best things about games at the old Stadium, in my opinion, was that it was a jam packed house almost every night (at least for the past 5-6 years), and you really could enjoy the camaraderie with fellow fans, along with the great homefield atmosphere. Now, you could go to a game with several seats, or even rows, in between you and the next closest fans.

    • jsbrendog

      it is obviously arods fault. his selfishness and 33 mill salary has forced these outlandish prices on us, the fans, hwile he diddles madonna and tips pitches.

      • jsbrendog

        but yes, i agree, its not just the orgs fault. its a combination of factors that are exacerbating the situation and making it a lot worse than it could have/would have been otherwise.

  • http://www.twitter.com/MatthewHarris84 Matt H

    As soon as King George gave up the reins this team’s management style went to shit.

    It just shows you what happens when someone more concerned with the bottom line than pleasing fans is at the helm.

    I’m not saying George was in the business of losing money, but he found some sort of middle ground where fans were happy and he was making a profit.

    I would have loved to get the seats my Dad has had since the early 80s, but if this $1923 price is true, then I guess I’ll just have to pass.

    On a side note, wonder what the urinal sells for? Haha.

    • steve (different one)

      wait, did Hal NOT go out and sign 3 of the top 4 free agents this winter?

      you are making it sound like the new management is a bunch of penny-pinching bean counters.

      no, they are spending gobs of money, but they are trying to be a *little* (in the Yankee way) smarter in the way they do spend it.

      they invested in two superstars, both of whom are entering their prime years.

      “King George” ignored the draft for 10 years, traded prospects for shitty veterans, and stuck his nose into the baseball operations to the long term detriment of the on-field product.

      i honestly can’t believe anyone would want to go back to that management structure, just b/c the new ticket prices are too high.

    • JP

      Your comment is interesting…but I don’t know. I thought the whole concept of the current stadium WAS George’s.

      But you are dead right about pleasing the fans. I think George realized that the way you please fans is by fielding a winning team. He didn’t always go about it the right way; maybe he refused to accept that you may need extended down years in order to rebuild.

      I just don’t see how they will ever sell out the new stadium without significant further reductions in ticket prices. I earn a very good living, but I am not even close to being able to afford, say, season tickets on the lower levels. The days of people taking out home equity loans and splurging on things like sports tickets are over, and there aren’t enough uber-rich people in New York, NJ, and CT to fill up Yankee Stadium. I don’t care if they field the second coming of the 1998 team.

    • William

      This sentiment is why I don’t think my argument above was so “silly”. How can one argue the Yankees only care about the bottom line when the team spends $200mn + luxury tax + revenue sharing?

      • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

        I hear you, but you’re still way oversimplifying things. The Yankees spend $200 million (+ luxury tax, etc.) to win games AND to make money. They’re not doing it only because they’re so into baseball, putting a good team on the field is what makes them their money.

        You could also attack that one point (“the Yankees only care about the bottom line”) without imputing a faulty argument made by one person to the large number of other people who also criticize the stadium.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      As soon as King George gave up the reins this team’s management style went to shit.
      It just shows you what happens when someone more concerned with the bottom line than pleasing fans is at the helm.
      I’m not saying George was in the business of losing money, but he found some sort of middle ground where fans were happy and he was making a profit.
      I would have loved to get the seats my Dad has had since the early 80s, but if this $1923 price is true, then I guess I’ll just have to pass.
      On a side note, wonder what the urinal sells for? Haha.

      … OAKTAG

  • dexcente

    Does Olbermann think people are going to be sympathetic to the idiots who overpaid for uber-expensive seats in the stadium because they didn’t get a discount when prices came down? Seriously? Oh the injustice!

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      No. Olbermann thinks people will be enraged to see that the Yankee pronouncements of magnanimity towards their overcharged fanbase are nothing but useless corporate doublespeak and that the olive branch they offered is in fact a non offer and a moot gesture.

      He’s got a point.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

        In fact, Olbermann says as much: “Speaking as one of those $850 buyers, I want to make it clear that nobody, but nobody, should feel sorry for us. Once you are actually paying three or four figures for one ticket to a sporting event, you are on your own.”

        He just thinks the Yanks are being self-serving without actually doing anything.

  • CountryClub

    I kind of feel like: Good for the Yankees. I’m glad they didnt cave in to all of the media and blogger pressure. If they’re Ok with those seats being empty then so be it. I think it’s hysterical that ONLY the Yanks seem to be catching grief for the seats “that are most visible on TV” being less than full. Almost every game I watch on TV (I have the baseball package) has seas of empty seats in the lower levels. As I’ve said before, this whole thing is way overblown.

    • William

      I kind of feel the same way too. Who knows…even though it “looks” maybe they are actually making more money this way?

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      This point also ignores the fact that the Yankees currently average the most fans per game by over 2,000 and are 7th in percentage of the stadium filled.

      • William

        It should also be noted that even with the smaller 52k capacity, only Dodger stadium houses a larger baseball crowd. Do the Yankees do not deserve any credit for that? They could have just as easily eliminated 10K cheap seats and really forced people’s hands by limiting supply to ramp demand.

        • jsbrendog

          like shitty field which got rid of something like 12000 seats.
          TWELVE THOUSAND seats. that is a lot of out of luck mets fans…..wait…no its not

          • William

            Basically, if the Yankees eliminated every seat over $200 (maybe even $150), they might still have more seats than Citi Field.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Good point.

      The Yankees are having problems selling their $2600 primo seats. The rest of baseball is having problems selling their $200 primo seats.

      Advantage: Yankees.

  • desus

    $1500 sounded reasonable. $1923 sounds like someone marketing person just pulled it out their ass while staring at a poster in a conference room.

    • Dan12

      i cant find this merchandise on steiner sports… any help?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      $1500 sounded reasonable. $1923 sounds like someone marketing person just pulled it out their ass while staring at a poster in a conference room.

      If it makes you feel any better or any worse, that’s probably exactly how it happened, and that marketing person probably gets paid more than you do to do exactly that.

      • desus

        If it makes you feel any better or any worse, that’s probably exactly how it happened, and that marketing person probably gets paid more than you do to do exactly that.

        Actually that does make me feel better. Thanks.

  • Bo

    If they think they can get that much dough for old seats, the more power to them.

    I don’t think they’ve learned anything from all the empty seats and lack of any energy in the new ballpark or should I say palace.

  • mgz

    Looks like they are $1500 and not $1923
    http://yankees.auction.mlb.com.....earch=YDGS

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Heh.

      “Non Specific Yankee Stadium Seat”: $1499.99 I wonder how much Specific seats are?

      Also, kudos for the Yanks discounting the bulk purchase of bleacher seats. One seat is $400, but two seats is only $700. $100 bucks off if I buy two?

      By Grabthar’s hammer, what a savings!

  • http://www.preferredseat.com/mlb.html Baseball fan

    They’ve got prices even a ticket broker would wince at. Get real people and quit going until the price comes down.

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  • MoveBack

    I miss George but let;s remember, if he got his way back in the late 80’s the Yankees would be in the Meadowlands right now