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		<title>By: MoveBack</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/05/a-pair-of-ostentatious-stadium-tales-11605/#comment-380026</link>
		<dc:creator>MoveBack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 00:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I miss George but let;s remember, if he got his way back in the late 80&#039;s the Yankees would be in the Meadowlands right now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I miss George but let;s remember, if he got his way back in the late 80&#8242;s the Yankees would be in the Meadowlands right now</p>
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		<title>By: Lonn Trost opens mouth, inserts foot &#124; River Avenue Blues</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lonn Trost opens mouth, inserts foot &#124; River Avenue Blues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 21:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] morning, in the comments to my post on the various seats for sale from new and old Yankee Stadium, one of our readers excused me of critiquing the Yankees with no perspective or evidence. The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] morning, in the comments to my post on the various seats for sale from new and old Yankee Stadium, one of our readers excused me of critiquing the Yankees with no perspective or evidence. The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Honorable Congressman Mondesi</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Honorable Congressman Mondesi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 20:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Say what you will about Steinbrenner, but he kept one eye on his money and another on the fans. Trost and Levine simply haven’t done that.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

You know I can&#039;t let a positive comment about GMS3 go by without throwing some cold water on it.  There&#039;s no way we know that the same thing wouldn&#039;t be happening if George were still in charge now, or that he wouldn&#039;t have done the same thing 10 years ago if he&#039;d had the wherewithal (7 years of YES Network money and an insane, and unsustainable, real estate bubble) and the chips fell into place earlier.  His story has largely been rewritten the last few years, we shouldn&#039;t forget the 80s reign of terror.

On the flip side... I&#039;m willing to concede that if all this stuff had occurred under George&#039;s watch, he probably would have personally taken a sledgehammer to that concrete wall separating the super-fantastic premium seats from the rest of the seats and done some other stuff to remedy some of the early problems after the first homestand.  Not one for patience, that George.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Say what you will about Steinbrenner, but he kept one eye on his money and another on the fans. Trost and Levine simply haven’t done that.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>You know I can&#8217;t let a positive comment about GMS3 go by without throwing some cold water on it.  There&#8217;s no way we know that the same thing wouldn&#8217;t be happening if George were still in charge now, or that he wouldn&#8217;t have done the same thing 10 years ago if he&#8217;d had the wherewithal (7 years of YES Network money and an insane, and unsustainable, real estate bubble) and the chips fell into place earlier.  His story has largely been rewritten the last few years, we shouldn&#8217;t forget the 80s reign of terror.</p>
<p>On the flip side&#8230; I&#8217;m willing to concede that if all this stuff had occurred under George&#8217;s watch, he probably would have personally taken a sledgehammer to that concrete wall separating the super-fantastic premium seats from the rest of the seats and done some other stuff to remedy some of the early problems after the first homestand.  Not one for patience, that George.</p>
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		<title>By: Baseball fan</title>
		<link>http://riveraveblues.com/2009/05/a-pair-of-ostentatious-stadium-tales-11605/#comment-379427</link>
		<dc:creator>Baseball fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 20:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;ve got prices even a ticket broker would wince at. Get real people and quit going until the price comes down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve got prices even a ticket broker would wince at. Get real people and quit going until the price comes down.</p>
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		<title>By: mgz</title>
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		<dc:creator>mgz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 18:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no such savings for the full seats:
http://yankees.auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/User?id=YankeesSteinerList&amp;wl=33340469&amp;type=L

haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no such savings for the full seats:<br />
<a href="http://yankees.auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/User?id=YankeesSteinerList&#038;wl=33340469&#038;type=L" rel="nofollow">http://yankees.auction.mlb.com.....038;type=L</a></p>
<p>haha</p>
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		<title>By: tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 18:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh.

&quot;Non Specific Yankee Stadium Seat&quot;: $1499.99  I wonder how much Specific seats are?

Also, kudos for the Yanks discounting the bulk purchase of bleacher seats.  One seat is $400, but two seats is only $700.  $100 bucks off if I buy two?  

By Grabthar&#039;s hammer, what a savings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.</p>
<p>&#8220;Non Specific Yankee Stadium Seat&#8221;: $1499.99  I wonder how much Specific seats are?</p>
<p>Also, kudos for the Yanks discounting the bulk purchase of bleacher seats.  One seat is $400, but two seats is only $700.  $100 bucks off if I buy two?  </p>
<p>By Grabthar&#8217;s hammer, what a savings!</p>
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		<title>By: mgz</title>
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		<dc:creator>mgz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like they are $1500 and not $1923
http://yankees.auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/feature.d2w/report?wl=33340469&amp;sort=term&amp;search=YDGS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like they are $1500 and not $1923<br />
<a href="http://yankees.auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/feature.d2w/report?wl=33340469&#038;sort=term&#038;search=YDGS" rel="nofollow">http://yankees.auction.mlb.com.....earch=YDGS</a></p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, Olbermann says as much: &quot;Speaking as one of those $850 buyers, I want to make it clear that nobody, but nobody, should feel sorry for us. Once you are actually paying three or four figures for one ticket to a sporting event, you are on your own.&quot;

He just thinks the Yanks are being self-serving without actually doing anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, Olbermann says as much: &#8220;Speaking as one of those $850 buyers, I want to make it clear that nobody, but nobody, should feel sorry for us. Once you are actually paying three or four figures for one ticket to a sporting event, you are on your own.&#8221;</p>
<p>He just thinks the Yanks are being self-serving without actually doing anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Bo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they think they can get that much dough for old seats, the more power to them.  

I don&#039;t think they&#039;ve learned anything from all the empty seats and lack of any energy in the new ballpark or should I say palace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they think they can get that much dough for old seats, the more power to them.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ve learned anything from all the empty seats and lack of any energy in the new ballpark or should I say palace.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William: I&#039;d love to hear what evidence and/or perspective is missing from the stadium posts. 

I&#039;ve written about why the new stadium was a bad deal for the city with evidence. I&#039;ve explained why I think watching a game at the new stadium pales in comparison to the old stadium with both evidence and my own perspective. And I&#039;ve provided ample quotes that show why and how the current Yankee leadership — the business leadership — doesn&#039;t care about the people who aren&#039;t spending money.

The stadium and the team are no longer about the fans to those in charge. Say what you will about Steinbrenner, but he kept one eye on his money and another on the fans. Trost and Levine simply haven&#039;t done that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William: I&#8217;d love to hear what evidence and/or perspective is missing from the stadium posts. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written about why the new stadium was a bad deal for the city with evidence. I&#8217;ve explained why I think watching a game at the new stadium pales in comparison to the old stadium with both evidence and my own perspective. And I&#8217;ve provided ample quotes that show why and how the current Yankee leadership — the business leadership — doesn&#8217;t care about the people who aren&#8217;t spending money.</p>
<p>The stadium and the team are no longer about the fans to those in charge. Say what you will about Steinbrenner, but he kept one eye on his money and another on the fans. Trost and Levine simply haven&#8217;t done that.</p>
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