Bruney’s injury and instant replay

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I don’t really need to harp on just how bad the Yankees bullpen has been over the last few weeks, but stick with me for a minute.

After last night’s loss dropped the team to 3-9 over the last 12 games, the bullpen’s season numbers are horrific. In 92 innings this year, the pen has put together a 6-6 record with a 6.26 ERA. The combined might of the Yankee relievers has resulted in 95 hits — 21 of which have left the park — as well as 49 walks.

One of the few bullpen right spots in the early going was Brian Bruney. In nine appearances spanning eight innings, Bruney had allowed 3 earned runs on 3 hits and 2 walks. He had struck out 12 and had claimed the set-up spot as part of the Bridge to Mowhere.

But it was not to last. The oft-injured Bruney found himself on the disabled list 15 days ago. Initially, the Yankees said the right-hander would return after the minimum, but the news now is not quite as sunny. Bruney threw yesterday for the first time since Sunday, and while he reported no pain, he says he still needs at least another two weeks to ramp up his arm to game-ready condition.

For now, the Yankee bullpen will have to keep it together for a few more weeks, but the more interesting aspect of Bruney’s injury is how he thinks he got it. A few weeks ago, he said he was working too hard in between starts. Now, he says that a long instant-replay review caused him to overextend himself. Bruney is talking about the Yanks’ April 19th victory over the Indians when a Jorge Posada pinch-hit fly ball just cleared the right field fence. Mike and I were at that game, and it took the umpires nearly 10 minutes to reach a decision upon review.

“There’s no reason to have an 8 1/2 minute delay,” Bruney said to reporters yesterday. “In my opinion, that’s why I did get hurt. I didn’t know if that umpiring crew is going to come out in 30 seconds or two minutes. So I’ve got to keep throwing.”

Of course, Bruney then admitted that he threw more pitches than normal during a side session to keep warm. Perhaps he’s just looking for scapegoats as injured players are wont to do. Either way, Bruney brings up a valid point: The instant replay reviews should be time-limited. Umpires don’t need that much time to review a call. Two or three minutes should be ample.

In the end, while the Yanks won that April game in an exciting fashion, they lost Bruney, a key cog, in the process. For now, they’ll just have to get by without him.

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  • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

    Two or three minutes? It really shouldn’t even take that long. If the entire Red Sox team can gather around a camera pit and watch the replay of Manny high-fiving a fan in Baltimore, the umpires can take just as quickly.

  • V

    He’s got a point. OTOH, perhaps if there’s a lengthy review, the pitcher can choose to not throw in the meantime, and then start throwing as if there were an injury (throw as much as he needs to warm up)?

  • Whizzo the Wize

    Whizzo is wize to the real injury culpret: not enough running in spring training.

    • http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/A-Rod.jpg Mike Pop

      This guy is awesome.

      • jsbrendog

        seconded

  • STEVE B BALL

    GET RID OF EILAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • steve (different one)

      yankee bullpen:winning games::your posts:adding value

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime

        +1

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      http://riveraveblues.com/river-ave-blues-commenting-guidelines/#caps

      I don’t want to have to post that link again.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      GET RID OF EILAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Great comment, B BALL. Compelling, and rich.

      • STEVE B BALL

        DOES NOT HAVE TO BE EITHER COMPELLING OR RICH JUST TRUE
        RIDICULOUS

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

          Goddammit, Steve. I just warned you above. Knock it off with the all-caps comments or you’re headed for a time-out.

          • STEVE B BALL

            Joseph
            don’t warn me

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

              I did and I will. It’s easy to abide by. Just don’t type in all caps.

              • STEVE B BALL

                you got it.
                but do not warn me

                • jsbrendog

                  what is this some type of macho contest?

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

                  Mandelbaum, Mandelbaum, Mandelbaum!

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

                  but do not warn me

                  Or what?

                  This is our; we’re the editors, founders and moderators of our forum. If you’re not following the rules, someone will warn you. It’s that simple.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          so, in other words, if someone’s of the opinion that Dave Eiland’s not a good pitching coach and should be replaced, that’s “ridiculous?”

          and that comes after a post as to how we should treat others on here….

          awesome.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

            It was Steve’s opinion that Eiland should be replaced, and Steve who called Tommie ridiculous.

            • STEVE B BALL

              I did not call him ridiculous, just using his aka!

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                Yeah, I caught that. Much ado about nothing.

                “Tommie” or “TSJC” is fine, though. No need to call me “Ridiculous” or “Upside”, as somebody else was doing the other night.

                • STEVE B BALL

                  you got it!

          • whozat

            No, STEVE is the one that thinks Eiland should be replaced. He offers no rationale, just a “Things are bad heads must roll RAAARRR!!!” attitude — and he expresses it in an aggravating fashion that makes people feel like he’s shouting. In direct violation of the posting guidelines, after being warned multiple times.

            Not sure why you’re on his side.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            And for the record, Jorge, I actually agree with the idea that Eiland may be to blame (at least partially) and that we might want to think about replacing him.

            I was just taking issue with the way STEVE B BALL was making his commentary, by shouting needlessly and by not presenting his case with actual facts, information, suggestions, rationales, detailed reasoning, alternatives, ramifications, anything. You think Eiland should be fired? Fine, I will probably agree with you, but present your argument like a grownup.

            That’s all I ask.

            • jsbrendog

              like, i believe you smell bad because you wear no deoderant and do not shower hippie, now get off my lawn.

              or, frankie cervelli looks weird when he htis because he snarls half of his face in a weird “stern angry facE” attempt.

              or, the yankee pitchig staff will be fine because thye will all end up pitching to the norm of their careers soonish based on past performance.

              or maybe, dave eiland should be looked at with a maginfiying glass because since he has come here our pitchers have all underperformed and been injury prone and our young pitchers have made less progress than we owuld have hoped/thought and it is his job to make sure such things happen

              • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                “frankie cervelli looks weird when he htis because he snarls half of his face in a weird “stern angry facE” attempt.”

                Tex looks like he should be wearing a monocle and a top-hat when he hits.

                • jsbrendog

                  he kinda looks like fez from that 70s show too a little bit

                • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

                  Dude… I don’t see that AT ALL. lol

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          I’m not going to respond to you until you stop shouting.

          • http://www.supertangas.com The man with 33 fingers

            So how has juan cruz pitched so far?

          • STEVE B BALL

            Sorry I did not realize upper case only is shouting!
            I have a right to my opinion that Eiland has to go,I did not think that this a U.N. Security Council meeting.
            Stats etc. do not change the fact that the Yankees pitching staff stinks right now, especially the bullpen.
            Would anyone disagree?
            Just stating my feelings.
            I do not have as much time evidently as many do to put up long comments.Just an observation from a fan of 50 years.
            Thanks guys! and gals

            • Doug

              HEY GUYS THIS IS STE
              STEVE B BALL

              /dugout’d

              Of course you have a right to your opinions, just not to express them in all caps trailed by a string of exclamation points, without any further elaboration.

            • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

              Okay, question: a) what would firing Eiland achieve and b) who’s the replacement?

              • jsbrendog

                a) change

                b) obama

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  IETC

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Sorry I did not realize upper case only is shouting!

              It is. Now that you know, I deeply and sincerely appreciate you not doing it anymore, thanks.

              I have a right to my opinion that Eiland has to go,I did not think that this a U.N. Security Council meeting.

              You do, and nobody asked you to raise to points of parliamentary procedure or recognize any foreign ambassadors. Just to speak clearly, which you’re doing now, so again, thanks.

              Stats etc. do not change the fact that the Yankees pitching staff stinks right now, especially the bullpen. Would anyone disagree?

              We wouldn’t. I don’t get the point of this “stats” comment, though, since I didn’t ask you for stats, just for you to flesh out your idea in greater detail. That doesn’t mean stats, it could just mean a sentence where you explain what you think Eiland is doing poorly and what other pitching coach you’ve seen elsewhere that you think would be an improvement.

              Just stating my feelings.

              As is your right, and as we want you to do.

              I do not have as much time evidently as many do to put up long comments.

              This is a red herring. If you have the time to come to this site and leave a one-sentence comment in all caps, you have the time to make it a three-sentence comment in normal case that explains what you think Eiland is specifically doing wrong.

              If I’m wrong and you really don’t have the time for those extra two sentences, you could say something like “I haven’t really had the time to try and figure out why, but I think Eiland may be part of the problem here.” That shows an honesty and a humility that your all-caps comment lacked.

              Just an observation from a fan of 50 years.

              Which we want and enjoy reading… as long as it’s not done disagreeably. Your observations are valued. They shouldn’t be incomplete or shortsighted observations, though, they should be examined and debated observations.

              Thanks guys! and gals

              The thanks is mutual.

  • steve (different one)

    to be fair, i watched the 100 times and i still don’t know what the correct call should have been.

    • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      Agreed… I don’t blame the umps for the length of the review, really, I blame MLB for not having reasonable rules to govern the replay process.

      • jeremy51

        Why not just institute a policy similar to that of when a pitcher replaces another pitcher taken out due to injury. I understand that would make the break in gameplay even longer, but at least the pitcher will know he’ll have as many pitches as are necessary to get warm after the delay.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          I like it. Simple and yet effective.

          Shit, if there’s a delay interrupting play (like rain or the lights going out or something), the umps give the pitchers warmup throws. How is the delay to review a call any different?

          • whozat

            It’s only different politically. The people who didn’t want replay fell back on the “but it’ll delay the game!!!” argument after “keep the game pure!!!” rang false.

            • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              Limit replay to 3 minutes of video review, give the pitcher 6 warm-up throws before play resumes. Done and done.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime

    Only think I remember about that game was it was the day of my aunt’s funeral.

    Also, it was sunny outside.

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

      Did you finish your 20 page paper?

      Oh and Jorge’s ball was a homer.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime

        This one’s only 14-15 pages, albeit 1.5 spaced.

        I’ve finished writing it but have to finish the footnotes. I have till midnight to turn it in though, so I’m not exactly worried.

        Actually, once I got going it was a pretty easy paper to write.

  • Cor Shep

    should have signed juan cruz!!!!

    coonnnnneeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • whozat

      The Juan Cruz with the 1:1 K:BB ratio? Sweet.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        This is sarcasm, right?

        Juan Cruz = Jose Veras

  • Drew

    Ahh.. The bullpen… The source of all the worlds problems. I wonder what type of moves will be made today. Hopefully something of substance is done.

    • jsbrendog

      doesn’t matter because as we all know the home team bullpen itself at yankee stadiu is a soul sucking void that causes anyone who sets foot in it to suck ass and sends them coming out pitching like kyle farsnworth. in fact, before he left farnsworth sacrificed a whole chicken in the bullpen and smeared its blood everywhere to curse the yankees.

      and since the stadium wasnt even built when this happens this makes farsnworth the most evil maniacal genius in the whole world.

      • Drew

        Friggin chickens.

      • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

        pr0FF3ss0r_F4rnsw0rth: oh im really soria

        but kyle “the great communicator” farnsworth is busy spillen his doctrine on yer plate so you bester hold out yer plate and beg fer gruel

        • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          WordUpThome: I’m Ji
          Jim Thome
          I don’t think the Perfeser is really sorry

          • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

            pr0FF3ss0r_F4rnsw0rth: /pats Meche on back

            bitchen pitchen broheim, but if you could please take you’re seat as it is now its time for the u.s. cellular field “dropped call of the night” kyle farnsworth

            • http://mantisfists.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/julius-carry-aka-shonuff.jpg The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              WordUpThome: WHO ARE YOU WHO CAN SUMMON FIRE WITHOUT FLINT OR TINDER

              (This was a good dugout. I still like the dugout, but I miss the pre-AOL days.)

    • BklynJT

      Its only been 28 games and I am trying to maintain a positive outlook on the season and this team, but its getting overly difficult to not expect the worse from the Yankees. Its getting to the point where I can’t help but expect the team to find a way to lose, or the management to make the wrong decision.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime

        Expecting the worst is not necessarily a bad thing: it makes it that much more fun when the team surprises you with a win.

      • jsbrendog

        its crazy, because that angels game where jorge knocked in the winning runs after they came back from being down this past weekend, when they tied it, i knew, i felt, i had that mid 90s feeling, theyre gonna win.

        now, the koba game, and last night…they tie them, and i have the god whos gonna blow it now mentality….

        its amazing how quickly that shifts, and its amazing how it seems to come true….

        but, it can only get better. so let’s go yanks.

        • Rick in Boston

          I like to think the Yanks will be in every game no matter what so I get a bit disapointed with nights like last night. For me, it’s the opposite of football: as a Browns fan, I’m just waiting to see how we lose our next game.

          • Yankeegirl49

            Rick..Im with you. I fully expect a win EVERY game.

  • DocBooch

    I dont know why anybody brings this up but it wasnt the review that took long….it was them deciding to even review it. The umpires and managers argued for more than 5 minutes before they even decided to review it. The review itself didnt take more than 2 minutes. They should have decided to review it as soon as the ball went out.

  • http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/A-Rod.jpg Mike Pop

    Bruney and Marte: please hurry!

    • jsbrendog

      maybe we can invent a machine to freeze time so that while baseball is not getting playe dour injure dplayers have time to recuperate at an accelerated rate…..

      all we need is a flux capacitor…

      • http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/A-Rod.jpg Mike Pop
        • jsbrendog

          just…awesome.

        • jsbrendog

          “another way would be to dive headfirst into a black hole. I don’t advise this however, for many reasons”

          spaghettified…interesting verbing of a word

          • Jacob

            “Sure there is! Take a photograph. That photograph is basically a still frame from a certain period in time – i.e., exactly when you took the picture. Later on, you can look at the photo and reflect upon what you were doing at that moment.”

            Even better.

          • hamburger helper

            verbing…interesting verbing of a word

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

              William Strunk is rolling over in his grave.

  • DocBooch

    Yeah so, what was the reason why Cashman didn’t even bite on Juan Cruz? Boy, did that blow up in his face.

    • http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/A-Rod.jpg Mike Pop

      Too early to judge that, no?

      • Rick in Boston

        Probably. Cruz hasn’t exactly come in when the stakes were high, either – only 1 inherited runner this year, and that was the first game. His control hasn’t been that great either – 10 K’s vs. 7 walks. He’s averaging a base runner per inning. So, yeah, Cruz would be nice, but I’m not going to say he’d be the end-all be-all of bullpen solutions.

        • http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/A-Rod.jpg Mike Pop

          It’s crazy how much things seem different when you find out stats, right? DocBooch needs to do some research.

          Also, anyone see Kepner’s article today? Probably the most pointless article I have ever seen.

          • Rick in Boston

            Stats are your friends. Now excuse me while I leave my mom’s basement.

            • jsbrendog

              hey! you forgot your spreadsheets!!

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Jose Veras, career
              1.376 WHIP, 7.5 H/9, 1.1 HR/9, 4.9 BB/9, 8.5 K/9, 1.73 K/BB

              Juan Cruz, career
              1.374 WHIP, 7.7 H/9, 0.9 HR/9, 4.7 BB/9, 9.3 K/9, 2.00 K/BB

              • jsbrendog

                juan cruz must give a much better hummer to be getting paid so much money

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Jose Veras, career ML service time:
                  2.025

                  Juan Cruz, career ML service time:
                  6.101

              • Drew

                That doesn’t change Veras’s ineptitude thus far. It’s been brutal to watch.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Not saying it does.

                  I just find it ironic that we Yankee fans who gnash our teeth over the ineptitude of the Yankee bullpen want to slander Cashman for failing to get a pitcher in Juan Cruz, who, frankly, is very likely to be just as inept as the current members of our bullpen.

                  Cruz, Veras, Farnsworth… these guys have a lot in common. They throw hard and tantalize you with their strikeout rates, but they also put a lot of guys on base and give up hits and homers.

                  Veras may not be the answer. I doubt Cruz would be, though.

    • Drew

      He inquire/bite? You got the inside scoop?

      • Drew

        **He didn’t

    • MattG

      Bigger mistake: Marte, 3 years, $12M.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        We’re currently 1 month into that 21 months worth of baseball time we have Marte under contract for (including a month of playoffs each year).

        And Marte has been injured in that one month.

        Be realistic, the Marte contract is an incomplete right now. No way to evaluate it.

  • Chris

    The review is a silly excuse.

    Posada hit the HR with one out in the bottom of the 7th. Bruney was still in the bullpen until the start of the 8th.

    This isn’t a case of him standing on the mound and needing to stay warm. He could stop, start, whatever he wanted to do – he was in the bullpen. He would have been in the same position if the Yankees kept scoring, or the Indians made a couple pitching changes.

  • E. Aron

    How soft are baseball players? An 8 minute delay caused your injury? You’re supposed to be an athlete! Going back to Chien Ming Wang, I don’t think I could destroy my foot as badly as he did if I tried, let alone running the bases.

    Every team deals with injuries, but with the Yanks the last few years it’s been ridiculous. Part of it is signing old men to long deals (Posada, I love him, but will there be a year within the next 2 on his K where he doesn’t go on the DL?), but how much of it can be attributed to the Yanks’ strength and conditioning staff?

    I’d appreciate any information that can be gathered on that.

    • Rick in Boston

      I’m not sure how much it has to do with the strength & conditioning as much as age plus luck. Remember the team had a tougher conditioning guy (last year?) and people were dropping like flies. Jorgie got some bad luck: hamstrings happen to people regardless of age, and the shoulder was dumb luck. Matsui’s knees are a definite age related injury, while Damon’s may or may not be. Quads, hammys, etc. are going to happen a lot, especially early in the year when it gets cold and rainy and the muscle tighten up.

    • A.D.

      How soft are baseball players?

      Did someone go on the DL with a hangnail?

      Was Wang suppose to somehow just pitch through the foot injury last year?

      Jeter played through a hand injury and it sapped his power, Damon played through shoulder injuries in the past and he wasn’t as good, Posada tried to play through the shoulder, and Matsui played through the knee as long as he could.

      Baseball isn’t football its not 1 game then you have a week to get healthy, and its not only 16 games. You have 6 months for baseball, you take 2 weeks to rest so you’re a more effective player for the next 4 months, that just makes sense.

    • MattG

      I couldn’t injure my foot that way either, but I could if I had to pitch on it every five days. I can imagine what my body would feel like if I could get it up to 75 MPH.

  • Jeremy

    At least he didn’t blame ARod.

  • A.D.

    That review took to long, but this is a poor excuse at why there was an injury, the Yankees could have continued to hit during that time if there was no delay and taken the same amount of time. If Bruney was the pitcher on the mound it could make sense, but not in this situation.

  • bronxbrain

    I will likely get lit up for even asking what may seem to be a ridiculous question. My angst is turning me into a ridiculous man, however, so I’ll ask: Would and should the team consider calling up Montero? I’m fully aware of all the reasons why they would not. I suspect that he hasn’t yet developed the sophisticated understanding of the game that a catcher needs; he might not even be able to call pitches–at least not to an MLB standard. Still, his talent dwarfs the talent of anyone else available. His bat might inject some fire into the limping lineup. Yes, he’s way too young, way too inexperienced. Yes, I must be on crack. Yes, yes. But still–wouldn’t it be great?

    • http://actyankee.blogspot.com Matt ACTY

      No.

    • A.D.

      His talent dwarfs everyone else, not his ability to play catcher at the major league level right now.

      On top of that there are all kinds of issues with putting him on the roster, in terms of future moves & flex.

      • MattG

        As of this moment, Francisco Cervelli is a better baseball catcher than Jesus Montero. Montero needs reps–thousands of reps–he would be helpless against major league pitching right now.

        Cervelli has seen and semi-conquered AA pitching. That gives him a chance.

        But he was in a putrid slump before being called up.

        • A.D.

          Agreed, hopefully it means Cervelli is due for some hits when he comes up.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      It would be great, but it’s still just way, way too soon for that.

      The kid is a hitting savant, but he doesn’t even turn 20 until November and he has yet to face even AAA pitchers yet. Since baseball is such a mental game, I worry that bringing him up now and having him be dominated by experienced big league pitchers would shatter the confidence that is so important to his mashing.

      We can’t risk damaging his long-term progress to fill this short- term hole.

      • Bo

        How many Single A catchers go up to the majors??

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Why are you asking the guy who just said that we’re not going to promote a Single A catcher to the majors?

          You’re agreeing with me.

  • Jake H

    The greatest asset that the Yanks have right now is time. Time to get people back healthy, time for the pitching staff to get up to their potential. Time for MLB to tell their umpires to not wait 8 minutes to get a call right and have a pitcher get hurt.

    • Chris

      Could you imagine in mid-June getting Posada, Nady, Molina, Wang, Marte and Bruney all back around the same time? That’s 25% of the roster turning over without making a trade.

      • jsbrendog

        as long as we’re not 22-37

  • Big Mike

    So, getting ARod and Bruney back will solve it all, huh?

    This team has some serious problems and I don’t think can be chalked up to just missing ARod and Bruney.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

      Come on. That’s taking no one’s conclusion to an illogical extreme.

      No one is saying A-Rod and/or Bruney will solve it all, but it is an indisputable fact that the Yankees are better with A-Rod and Bruney than they are without.

      • Big Mike

        Ben

        I’m just tired of all the excuses I hear and read. Injuries are part of the game. Every team has to deal with them every season, even the Yankees.

        Put up or shut up.

        Without ARod, Bruney, Wang, Nady and Posada this team should still be very competitive.

        The baseball we have seen the Yankees play season has been pathetic for the most part.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Fuck, Big Mike is right.

      Let’s pack it in, fellas, close up shop, this season is finished, toast.

      Matter of fact, let’s just forfeit the entire decade. Burn the stadium down, no use for it, our problems are too big.

      • josh

        i dont think anyone would notice if the stadium burnt down, it’s empty all the time anyway

  • Bo

    So, we get another excuse as to why the pen stinks and injuries? Too long for HR reviews. We can add that to Cokes thing about no defined roles, Mo’s shoulder surgery, Marte and the WBC, and not enough consistent use for the likes of Robertson. Impressive.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Bo, do you know the difference between excuses and explanations?

  • josh

    i am very down right now, just like most of us. trying to stay positive we have to realize the season is young and our starting pitching should be much, much better than it has been. when they get going the offense will look better and the hits will look more important. the bullpen is a serious worry, but if rivera is just in a dead arm period and can be 85% of what he was last year the closer role is no problem. hopefully bruney can return and stay healthy, marte can come back and girardi can learn to leave him in for only an inning when he pitches well. coke looks ok, aceves looks like he might be a pretty good long man. i am about sick of watching ramirez’s change ups and veras’ lack of control. i would like to see melancon and robertson suceed but worry about robertsons velocity. jeters defense is a problem and it will be interesting to see if posada can ever catch and stay healthy again. the team spent a lot of $$ hoping the starting pitching would be the difference maker. until they either get in a groove i have a hard time judging the team as a whole. if they never get hot it is fair to say that the team will suck this year and girardi and eiland will be long gone.