May
08
First round of Friday roster moves
ByWe expected the Yankees to make a number of roster moves today, and via RotoWorld we find the first of them (you might have to scroll down, depending on when you see this). On the ledger now: Melancon down, Molina disabled, Cash up. With two players removed from the 25-man roster, that leaves one for A-Rod. However, purchasing Kevin Cash’s requires a 40-man roster move. That will more than likely be the DFAing of Angel Berroa, which would open up yet another 25-man spot. Here’s to hoping that Juan Miranda gets the call to deepen the bench a bit. He’d be valuable as a PH with two backup catchers on the roster.
that was a large enough sample of Melancon!!!
what is that all about?
better call up one more bat else it is a joke…
You have no clue. Melancon will be back and better then ever. Have you ever been on the pitching mound infront of 50,000? Nerves got the best of him. You haven’t yet seen what Melancon can do. I have been watching him since he was 8. He was pitching like he was nervous. Just wait…you will eat your words.
I’m so glad Mark Melancon is leaving after his 5 innings of use spread out over two weeks and that Jose Veras gets to keep his job. I was worried the Yanks might actually make a good decision there.
If they don’t feel comfortable giving Melancon regular work in the majors right now, then they made the right call. Let him get a little regular work in at AAA for a while, then call him back up when things calm down a little in the majors.
isn’t 5 innings over 12 games pretty standard reliever usage?
that’s 67.5 innings/season.
also, why is it fair to rail on the Yankees for using a small sample for Melancon while you are using a small sample to dismiss Veras?
one decision is permanent, the other can be reversed pretty easily.
It’s not 5 innings, it’s 3 1/3. And the stints got worse… 2 innings, 1 inning, 1/3 inning, 0 innings.
I’ve seen Jose Veras pitch now for the better part of three seasons. That’s plenty to know that what you’re saying is what you get. He’ll throw hard with little movement and no ability to control the ball. Guys who throw 95+ are always seductive, but to what end?
Completely agree.
Melancon can be brought back up very easily but if you cut Veras and he signs somewhere else and pitches well why the pen is still struggling.
The hating on Cashman would continue even more.
So now the same group of people who kill Veras during games are hoping he doesn’t leave? Seduced by the decent 2008 numbers that break down under further scrutiny? Trust me; he won’t be missed when the Yanks let him go.
since i am not one of those people, this is a bit of a strawman.
yeah, his days are probably numbered. but his stuff is good enough where you don’t just discard him when you can easily send down a reliever with options.
Melancon WILL be back. i guarantee it.
Agreed.
I can see DFA’ing Veras in July. Not a week into May.
Holding on to see if they can get him pitching serviceably to deal him
Precisely.
stupid 40 man question alert…
…so now that we’ve moved melancon up and down once, we can do it all year, but it still only uses one of his options, right?
how frequently can he be yo-yo’d?
he can come back up in 10 days, unless there is another injury. with the yankees’ luck, there surely will be…
aside from that rule, he can come up and down as many times as they like.
Options refer to years, not callups or demotions.
Once somebody goes down to the minors once in that season, his option is burned, then you can send him up and down as much as you please.
ok, he only pitched 3 1/3 innings. still, he appeared in 4 out of 12 games. not criminal or anything. nothing like when Edwar came up in 2007 and didn’t pitch for 2 solid weeks.
Because Torre set up Edwar to fail doesn’t actually make it better.
true.
but pitching once every 3 games isn’t really a big deal either.
it’s not exactly Girardi’s fault that he recorded no outs in his last appearance.
Whether it is Girardi’s fault or not, Melancon when from 95 innings in 44 appearances in AA, to 3 1/3 innings in 4 appearances in the majors, and the results are not too hard to understand.
Yeah, but Melancon was pitching multiple innings like that because that is how the Yankees develop relievers. It has nothing to do with situations. He appeared in 4 out of 12 games, and would have gotten more innings had he pitched better.
i’d have to assume Miranda is coming, o/w they didn’t need to send down a reliever.
curious about Melancon, but i am guessing it’s a development thing? they want him to pitch more often, but he hasn’t pitched well enough to say he is ready to pitch in big spots.
maybe they feel they rushed him a little and they’ll send him back down for a few weeks until they decide on the next move. he’ll be back.
in the meantime, Robertson should get a longer look.
Its making sure Melancon still gets innings, he’s still only a year removed from TJS and they want to make sure he’s working
You know, I don’t quite mind sending Melancon down. Would I have preferred a DFA of Veras? At the moment, sure.
But it’s not as though Melancon is a finished product. He’ll be back up in the bigs soon enough.
I just want to know where hot, young prospect Brett Tomko is. I hear he’s blazing a trail through AAA.
LMAO!
who is this snark directed at? 2 days ago you posted your concern that the Yankees were going to call up Tomko. they didn’t.
I didn’t realize an off-hand comment had to be directed at anyone. I’ve never posted my concern that the Yanks were going to call up Tomko. I’ve noted that people shouldn’t expect much out of Tomko.
Anyway, it’s a concern founded in statements from Girardi and Cashman that have basically said that the team plans to call up Tomko at some point in the not-too-distant future. If he can contribute, then fine. I’m simply saying that I’m not going to put too many eggs into Brett Tomko’s basket.
ok, i guess i was just confused. whatever.
April Ben = calm and relaxed
May Ben = chippy and red-assed
It’s probably my fault. I’m an asshole.
Ben after spending the last 7 hours working on a take home exam….
no, i get it now. me = fail.
take homes suck, especially when you have an in class final and paper due for the same class.
take homes suck, especially when you have an in class final and paper due for the same class.
That’s just sadistic.
Tell your professor tommiesmithjohncarlos said he’s/she’s an asshole.
is it cool if i wait a couple of weeks?
but i hear its a nice basket with padded egg holders
Speaking of getting A-Rod back on the roster, how sweet does this line up look, minus the 9 hitter?
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Cervelli C
Sweet.
Whomever comes back from injury first, he’s the new catcher.
Even Xavier Nady.
Nick Swisher catches without a glove.
That’s how you get diseases.
i’m torn between:
IETC
and
ICWUDT
IEWUDT?
:: head explodes ::
Nick Swisher doesn’t get diseases. Diseases get Nick Swisher.
It looks a hell of a lot nicer than the sad shit we’ve been sending up for the past week!
Ahhh only one black hole….assuming Melky doesn’t go swinging above his head again.
Ugh I would have perferred Melancon much much more. Veras can die in a fire for all I care.
Wow.
I like how Veras is the target of our ire, even though Edwar and Albaladejo have probably pitched worse than him, all things considered.
Maybe he can perish trying to save Edwar and Albie?
using your newfangled “effectiveness” metric, Albaladejo hasn’t been too bad.
0 ERs in 10 of his 13 appearances.
Really, eh?
Albie = feast or famine (usually feast, apparently)
how many inherited runners scored though?
statistics stink…i prefer just making non-fact based ludicrous assumptions and claims. its waaaay faster…
Homer: There’s three ways to do things: The right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power way.
Bart: Isn’t the Max Power way just the wrong way?
Homer: Yeah, but FASTER!
And you all thought I hated Jose Veras.
Dude, really?
That’s harsh. And I’m a secret pyromaniac.
Yes I know it was harsh but unlike the other times hes fuming he wont take the Yankees down with him.
I imagine it was D-Rob or Melancon, and D-Rob has pitched better.
I am worried Joe will choose Cash over Cervelli.
i am worried that people will get hung up on this, when the most likely outcome will be that they are both terrible.
Cash is probably going to get more PT since he’s actually played in the majors before. i have to think most managers would do the same.
Agreed.
Cash = rock
Cervelli = hard place
and just to show what an idiot i am, Cervelli is starting tonight.
Eh they’re realistically both the same non-bat. Cervelli should be better defensively but Cash at least has experience, so it’s probably a wash, maybe Cash will go Nick Green for us and just rake.
I will disagree. I think Cervelli is going to have a career. Not a Johnny Bench career, but maybe, with a little luck, a Dan Wilson career.
Come to think of it, I could’ve gone with a Joe Girardi career.
i was actually thinking this and Girardi was the comparison i came up with as well.
still, that’s his ceiling, and he’s not going to play like prime-era Girardi in the next two weeks.
i’d like to see Cervelli play a little more too, i just don’t think it’s going to matter much either way.
You know, I like Cervelli’s flair behind the plate. If and when CC gets a K tonight watch Cervelli fire the ball down to third. There is a certain elan to this kid that I like. It seemed like it sparked the team last night when he came in for Molina.
You know what would be way more useful than “elan”?
Being able to hit his weight.
he can. 215
Its not suppose to be a knock on Cervelli or his potential, I think he should be a solid ML player, but realistically he’s not ready for the majors right now, he hasn’t even played a full season above A+.
a Joe Girardi in his playing days career?
De la Rosa to Trenton; PJ to SWB
Since you know, we’re talking about roster moves.
Excellent on both counts.
except it would have been nice to have left Cash in SWB and brough Pilittere up instead.
great idea. 2 catchers on the roster with 0 big league experience.
eh, i’d take the risk on the off chance pilittere might give you 1 catcher on the roster who might just hit, even a little.
it’s not like you don’t have 2 experienced ex-catchers as coaches and anyways they’re the ones going to be calling all the pitches, regardless of whether cash, cervelli or pilittere is starting.
PJ doesn’t exactly have a track record of being a productive hitter.
If you want a hitter, make Shelley Duncan catch.
Screw that, let’s make Juan Miranda a catcher.
Problem(s) solved.
I like PJ, but Cash makes more sense, when Po/Molina come back they can just DFA him, PJ they would risk losing when they might not want to.
huh?
Pilittere’s not out of options, they’d just send him down.
I meant that they’re then stuck with him on the 40 man roster, where as Cash they are not, because he will be DFAed. For the longer term they probably don’t want PJ (or 4 catcher in general) on the 40 man.
You’re correct that we wouldn’t have to DFA PJ.
I’m not keen on the idea of keeping Posada, Molina, Cervelli, AND PJ all on the 40 man together, though. I’d rather add Cash now and then whack him later to get that 40-man spot back.
Maybe that spot goes to AJax in July…
fair point.
though there’s always eric hacker and steven jackson begging for a 40 man wacking.
i fear the cash/cervelli black hole of suck though.
how does Pilittere do anything to combat that black hole?
it’s amazing. 40 AB’s, and the Yankees are holding Matt Weiters in the minors.
Pilittere is a career sub-.700 OPS guy.
P.J. Pillitere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yogi Berra, Bill Dickey, Elston Howard, and Thurman Munson
It’s true. One of them is 85 and the other 3 are dead.
so Pilittere was demoted for all of 2 days?
Mostly a paper move, methinks. That happens all the time. I don’t know that he actually ever went to Trenton.
Didn’t stop some people here from bashing Cashman for “demoting” him…
yeah, that was basically my point. people were WAY too upset over the demotion of PJ Fing Pilittere.
They injured Molina to call PJ up to AAA
It’s not just the demotion in regards to Pilittere. What kind of message does it send to other players in the org? PJ was killing the ball, was deserving of his roster spot but got demoted anyway.
I know he is needed, but from what I’ve seen of his “extending spring” rehab, aren’t they rushing Alox back a bit too quickly? He’ll probably pull an O’fer for a while from the numbers I saw. His defense is not better than Pena’s, and Pena is starting to hit.
-Scott
What exactly have you seen of his EST rehab? He’s been hitting and running ok.
I wish people would stop with this “they’re rushing him” line of reasoning. Recovery for surgery was pegged at 6-9 weeks. He’s an athlete in prime shape, and he’s been out 8 weeks. If anything, they’re not rushing him.
The Yanks aren’t stupid, and for better or worse, they owe A-Rod around $270 million over the next 9 years. They’re not going to risk that.
but Ben, RAMIRO PENA!!
I think he means bat wise, not necessarily physically. He’s gone what, like 4 for 25 or something in EST.
He’ll probably pull an O’fer for a while from the numbers I saw.
Didn’t he have a homer like, every single day last week?
“But Alex is going to put up Alex numbers in the five months he’ll be here.”
Multiple Choice Attribution:
a)Kruk
b)Steve Phillips
c)Joe G
d)John Maddon
e) reading that quote made me too stupid to comprehend the rest of your joke
I’ll take that as a vote for Maddon
Yes, but home runs are BAD because SMALL BALL wins games! Look at that scrappy Tampa Bay team! They hit a mere 6 home runs yesterday, after winning the game on an extra-innings homer the night before! Don’t you see what bad baseball home runs are?
(golf clap)
I am excited to see the fruits of these roster moves tonight at the game. Anyone else headed out to Camden?
Not until tomorrow. I’m excited about UUUUUGHES!
Shelly Duncan doesn’t get a look, he can play the corner OFs and first…
he’s got a bit of a bum shoulder, required a cortisone shot.
Bad shoulder
oh fuck, I forgot, that came across the ticker yesterday, dam.
You have shamed us all for not knowing that, Matt H.
You have killed baseball history.
Sincerely,
Jayson Stark
Did he have a similar reaction to Manny’s suspension as he did to A-Rod’s admission?
Also, just seeing “Rodriguez 3B” in the lineup is making me giddy.
Was he enraged? Yeah.
He didn’t accuse ManRam of “murdering the game’s history”, though.
Pete Abe is reporting that Stephen Jackson has been DFA’d to make room for Cash.