• http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Fuck the heck? Edwar still?

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

      Looks like we’ve got ourselves a mis-managed beat down.

    • daneptizl

      Edwar will be in there tomorrow as well.

    • Chris

      Did Kay actually bring up a good point about Edwar?

  • Rich I.

    Did Girardi forget that the Mexican Gangster is on the active roster?

    • Arman Tamzarian

      AS well as Tomko, we have two long men and there using neither

  • Accent Shallow

    How does that 2nd inning happen? Seriously.

    Hughes really needs to work on a backup plan for when his off-speed stuff isn’t working. Then again, you figure most games he’ll have either the curve or the change, and in the good games, maybe both.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Hughes couldn’t put people away, the Yankees didn’t play any defense.

      • Accent Shallow

        It reminded me of 2008 a lot in that sense, except in 2008 he didn’t have the velocity he does now, nor did he throw the cutter. I thought the major reason he added the cutter was to induce grounders/pop-ups on hitter’s counts.

        • Jacob

          He did induce three early ground balls. One to either side of Cano that he couldn’t get to, then a hard one that Tex couldn’t get a handle on. Not great pitches, one was hit hard, but with a little luck he’s out of the inning without much damage.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      You also figure most games, we don’t see multiple horrid defensive plays by the best defensive players on our team and Hughes probably gives up 2 or 3 there at the most instead of 8, goes back to the bench, gets calmed down by Girardi, Eiland, and some of the pitchers, and continues to pitch.

      This was a horrid outing for Phil, but it was thiiiiisclose to being a rather benign average run of the mill outing.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        He did a much, much better job of getting out of jams against the Sox earlier in the week.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Exactly. He was a little less sharp and the defense was much less effective, and boom, a semi-rough 2-3 run inning becomes a 8-run fuckfest.

          • B.George

            Agree and in the post before I mean start throwing curves in the dirt. The homer from Huff was a good hit on a good pitch. People need to calm down every pitcher in the Majors has bad outtings but it wasnt entirely his fault.

      • Nick

        earlier i said eiland was to blame, my rationale towards is that Hughes had some of the same problems against the sox, couldnt his problems been fixed during the week, when Hughes threw 3 way up and out against Huff in the first, it was clearly mechanical.

        when its a mechanical problem it should be up to the pitching coach to address it, thats why he is there.

        its not just hughes, it goes without saying alot of our pitchers have consecutive bad outings, why not fix at best the mechanical problems. clearly blame is due at the pitcher, but someone has to help our pitchers through the rough patches.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          By your rationale, virtually every pitching coach in the majors is a bad pitching coach, because every team has had pitchers have two bad starts in a row.

          I’m not saying you’re wrong in saying that Eiland is to blame. I’m saying, neither of us really know if Eiland is to blame or not, because there’s just so many variables in play here.

          Absent something concrete you see he is doing wrong, laymen like us calling for Eiland’s head is just a guess that it’s the problem, nothing more.

          • Nick

            the talent is there, someone just needs to teach the fine art of pitching in the MLB, in my opinion thats the pitching coach, and whos to say he doesnt try, but i wish we saw results- ala hughes doesn’t give up 8.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Fine.

              Just know that your opinion is just a guess. It’s nothing more than a guess.

              • Nick

                yes ur right about it being a guess, but no one is seeing good pitching, except cc and joba on a few occasions. but non the less your right.

                • Nick L

                  any chance you think eiland gets fired before the year is over? if this progress this way.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  No clue. Your guess is as good as mine.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Brick killed a guy.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Aunt Becca-Optimist Prime

    Man. What a horrible day for my nephew Eli.

    First he loses an entire slice of his manhood while everyone stands and watches and shouts MAZEL TOV, and now this!

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Damn, just when my ‘Mo’s done/B-Jobber’ question was getting good.

    Let’s pick it up here. July 1, Mo is done and we have 6 solid starters. Who’s your closer?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Bruney or Marte. Maybe Coke.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        So you’re sending Hughes to AAA, even though he’s 3-1 with a 2.94 ERA? We don’t need him, Wang and Joba are pitching great. And we have no closer.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Yes. I’d still take my chances with Bruney, Marte, or Coke and let ALL THREE OF THEM fail before I convert Hughes.

          We also have to think about 2010 and his innings goal. Hughes is what keeps us from having to sign another starter for the 5th hole when Pettitte doesn’t come back (or if Wang doesn’t recover).

          I’d rather be looking for a new closer this offseason than a new starter.

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            Who’s converting Hughes? We have 6 good starters and no closer, I never mentioned making Hughes the closer.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Umm… your question was: Mo is done and we have 6 solid starters. Who’s your closer?”

              My answer is: Not Phil Hughes.

              • B.George

                Anyone thinking Phil Hughes should close should get there brains check to make sure they arent mentally ill.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  I have a feeling we agree on that… but for two drastically different reasons.

                • B.George

                  what are the reasons?

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  I’m not going to make Phil Hughes the closer because I’m more interested in him being a starter this year and next year.

                  It has nothing to do with any doubts that I would have about his ability to close, because I’m sure he’d be a damn fine closer if we were to use him there, because he’s a good pitcher.

                  What are your reasons?

                • B.George

                  I totally agree. If you see him and Joba as fron of the rotation starters with Burnett and Sabathia on the team there is no way you make him a closer with four starters potentially being front of the rotation guys.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Oh, okay.

                  They way you were saying that, I was reading context in that wasn’t there. I thought you were saying making Hughes a closer was insane because he didn’t have the “bull in a china shop” mentality.

                  My deepest apologies for misreading your comment as being one of stupidity.

                • B.George

                  lol its alright

    • http://eastrutherfordrant.com donttradecano

      Strasburg.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        I like the way you think, Cowboy.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Coke. But I doubt Mo is done for this year anyways.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        So Coke is the BEST guy we have? You put your best guy in the back of the bullpen, so Phil Coke is the best we have?

        Phil Coke is going to come in the 8th of a 1 run game, 1 out, bases loaded and get you home with a win?

        • JobaWockeeZ

          In all of our bullpen Coke is one of the best. If Mo is done its a toss up between him and Bruney. We may just get some random guy form the FA market or a trade but I’d rather have either Coke or Bruney be our closer. Anyways I will never want anyone of our 6 starters to be our closer.

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            So you send one of the 6 to AAA then, right?

            Which one?

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              Hughes.

            • JobaWockeeZ

              I’d say Hughes. If he’s doing great I’d still want him down for innings. Maybe towards the end of the season we can give him a few starts again but if all 6 are great then I feel that he should be sent down. Next year we’ll have a spot or two open for him so he’ll have a spot there. And if Bruney/Coke do not work out then we’ll try with some other bullpen pitchers like Robertson, Melancon and Marte. Then if that fails maybe a trade/one year rental could happen. But in the scenario that we HAVE to use one of our 6 starters then it would be Joba.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                But in the scenario that we HAVE to use one of our 6 starters then it would be Joba.

                And in that scenario, it still can’t be Joba, because

                2010-2020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  TSJC, nobody can plan that far ahead, especially when it comes to pitchers.

                  And teams that are playing for tomorrow are usually last place teams.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Fine.

                  Joba being able to throw 200 innings in 2010, 2011, and 2012 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not having a settled, dominant closer for 2009

                  Joba starting going forward is more important than our closer for this one year. It just is. I’d rather overpay to trade for someone else’s bullpen arm this summer than move Joba, because we can’t keep yo-yoing him and fucking with his arm and reducing his innings. He is our future ace. He may well be our ace right now. You don’t move aces to the bullpen, no matter WHAT the immediate pressing need is. You just don’t.

                  You just don’t do it.

                • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                  Much better argument.

                  I’ll throw another log on YOUR fire. The closer’s role is overrated, anyway. The overwhelming majority (94%?) of 9th inning leads get held no matter who the closer is. You can live w/Bruney.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Exactly.

    • Accent Shallow

      In order:

      Bruney
      Hot hand du jour not named Veras/Edwar
      Someone via trade

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        I could live w/that, but don’t think its optimal. That doesn;t give us our best chance to win this year.

        BTW-Now I need to know which of the 6 you send down. They’re all pitching well.

        • Accent Shallow

          I’m sure the Yankees have zero qualms about sending Hughes down, although what he needs to learn is how to get ML rather than MiL hitters out.

          I am not sure it gets to the point of converting a starter, I’d imagine that either Bruney/Marte is serviceable in that role, Robertson/Melancon seizes it, or they’re able to swing a trade.

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            “. . although what he needs to learn is how to get ML rather than MiL hitters out.”

            Agree 100%, and felt the same way about IPK last year.

            I could live w/Bruney or Marte, but we’d be lucky to break 90 wins.

            • Accent Shallow

              Really? Bruney/Marte wouldn’t be nearly as good as Mo by some of the more advanced sabermetric rate stats, but I can’t imagine them blowing more than 3-4 games than Mo would have blown.

              • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                I guess it depends on which Bruney were talking about. The inconsistent guy who would walk the bases loaded, or the lights out guy we saw recently. I’m assuming he’s a little of both.

                But in any case, were not too far apart. If the Yanks are a 95 win team with a typically great Mo, then losing 3-4 games with Bruney puts them close to 90 wins.

    • BigBlueAL

      If Mo is done this team is done.

    • Mike HC

      closer by committee

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        Tried 1,000,000 times, never worked.

        • Mike HC

          Just putting an old shitty closer in that role, just to have a “closer” also does not work and I don’t think Joba should be moved there in a panic situation. So the Yanks would not have much on an option

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            I don’t know if its a panic situation, although Mo being done is a huge issue. But in the scenario you have 6 good starters, so you have the luxury of making a well thought out decision.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

              I know this a hypothetical, but any talk of Mo being done is EXTREMELY premature.

              • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                I agree, even if he’s topping out at 91-92 with the cutter, that’s still a plus offering. Most MLB pitcher’s cutters are in the high 80’s.

                He just can’t throw it exclusively anymore at that speed. He would need to frame it between 2 seamers and 4 seamers to keep hitters honest.

    • Bob Stone

      Perish the tought of Mo being done this year – And I think he will be fine. BUT . . if it came to pass I’d have to go with Joba even though I prefer to see him as a starter long term. I just don’t see anyone else.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        Bingo, my sentiments exactly. I see Joba 100% as a starter, but I’m not so locked in ideologically that I’m going to ignore reality. You can’t get through the AL East this year without a closer.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          I see Joba 100% as a starter, but I’m not so locked in ideologically that I’m going to ignore reality.

          The reality is, every time you pull him out of the rotation and make him a reliever, you set back the timetable on him being a legit starter.

          Keeping Joba on track to be a legit starting pitcher throwing 200+ innings in the AL East for the next 10 years is more important than not having a good closer for 2009.

          Joba’s progress going forward is still more important than any short-term hole in the bullpen for this year.

          • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

            Your Scenario-We finish 80-82, Girardi and Cashman are fired and replaced with GM Lou Pinella and Mgr Dusty Baker. Joba becomes the closer anyway once Lou takes over, since he doesn’t want to get canned. Baker blows out his arm by the end of May 2010.

            On the plus side, its much easier to get seats at the stadium.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              OMM, don’t scare me with nightmare scenarios like that.

              I feel confident that whomever we replace Girardi with, if we were to fire Girardi, that new manager would also want Joba starting and not closing. Ditto any GM who replaces Cashman.

              • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                ‘OMM’

                Very nice, I’m stealing that.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  I give because I love.

                • B.George

                  If you read Priors lines when Baker was manager he absolutley murdered him and should be arrested.

    • http://9thinning.blogspot.com VO

      Well it depends how our bullpen is doing. I mean if Coke, or Melancon or someone is shutting down opposing clubs you use them. If not dare I say Joba?

      • http://9thinning.blogspot.com VO

        Also let me add all the other starting pitchers have to be dealing, and Joba would have to be struggling with the starting role.

        • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

          If that was the case, I’d put him in Scranton to get him the length he needs to succeed. Joba succeeding in the long-term is more important than winning in ’09.

          • http://9thinning.blogspot.com VO

            True, there would have to be a ton of things go wrong, and right for me to actually hypothetically put him in the bullpen.

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

              And in reality, if all the stuff goes wrong that would need to go wrong for me to put Joba in the pen, the Yanks aren’t making the playoffs anyway. Just leave him in the rotation.

              • http://9thinning.blogspot.com VO

                That is a good point. If that were to happen though who is your closer of the future? And no I am not suggesting Joba.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Still Melancon.

                  He was our best, most dominant relief pitching prospect before his bad cup of coffee this month. Those handful of mediocre innings haven’t changed that.

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                  Who knows. Worry about it when the time comes. Chances are it’ll be someone we’re not at all considering, like Neal Musser or some shit.

                • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

                  For the immediate future: Bruney. For the long term future: Melancon.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Chances are it’ll be someone we’re not at all considering, like Neal Musser or some shit.

                  or Chris Garcia or WLDR

                • http://9thinning.blogspot.com VO

                  Good points all around, this is exactly what the B-Jobbers have to see.

              • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

                The Yanks are running a business, they want to keep up the appearance that they’re ‘all-in’ with what they’re charging for seats. Plus, they have a network to run, and low ratings means low ad revs.

                • Mike HC

                  If the Yanks run their team based on the “appearance” that they are “all in,” rather than truly coming up with a plan, and sticking to it, then I’m afraid it could be a long time before we see another world series ring. I dont think the Yanks run the team like that though, so we should be fine.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  The Yanks are running a business, they want to keep up the appearance that they’re ‘all-in’ with what they’re charging for seats. Plus, they have a network to run, and low ratings means low ad revs.

                  Which means that we’d probably just trade Zach McAllister, Juan Miranda, Damon Sublett and Arodys Vizcaino for Huston Street and Ryan Spillborghs and be done with it.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

      Melvin.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      1) Bruney
      2) Coke
      3) D-Rob
      4) Melancon (seriously)
      5) Hughes (since he’d likely be pitching the worst of the 6 starters)
      6) scour the trade market for someone willing to salarydump a reliever
      7) See who else in the minors is worthy of a shot

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Sorry, left Marte off the list. Make him #3 and bump everyone else down a peg.

        Bruney, Coke, Marte, Robertson, and Melancon ALL get shots at the closer role before I convert Hughes.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        So you send Hughes to AAA? We have 6 solid starters in my scenario.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Yes.

    • A.D.

      Internal reliever or trade. The only way I consider a conversion of Hughes or Joba is if the team was running away with the division, thus a lock for the playoffs & the closer is the one missing link, essentially Wainwright for St Louis a few years ago.

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

        Well, AW was a closer the whole year.

        And Carlos Beltran is still waiting for a fastball.

  • Rich I.

    Can someone kidnap Edwar? Please?

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    Edwar is a 3-outcome pitcher.

    Walk, Strikeout, Home run.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      (golf clap)

  • 65hughes

    hughes was unlucky tonight but he really fucked up my fantasy team
    tonight

  • Accent Shallow

    So Markakis doesn’t put a good swing and it still goes out, same as Huff earlier? Ick.

  • John

    RALLY CAPS ON!

    • Mike HC

      I know writing in all CAPS is against RAB commenting guidlines, but maybe when the Yanks need “rally caps” to get it going, everyone should write in CAPS. I dont know, maybe that is stupid.

  • BigBlueAL

    Damn. JoJo, Rev Run’s son, arrested for possession of Marijuana last night. Idiot.

    • Drew

      He wasn’t arrested for possession per say, he was arrested for running and throwing punches! WTF!

  • stuart

    edwar i snot very good and he gives up so many HR’s they need to cut ties the experiment is over . he strikes out guys when it does not matter…

    bye bye

    • Whitey14

      edwar i snot….that’s an enjoyable typo right there…

    • Stryker

      he strikes out guys when it does not matter…

      last time i checked a strike out with runners on base counted the same as a strike out with no runners on base…

  • Joe R

    Meh. So much for building on a quality game yesterday.

  • I.am.Will

    F-ing hughes!

  • Bob Stone

    This season has been so frustrating against such high initial hopes.

  • Drew

    Is that gossage?

    • Jose

      I think Righetti

      • Bob Stone

        Or perhaps Sparky Lyle!

  • Nady Nation

    Wonder what Francesa and the rest of the B-Jobbers will say if Joba pitches 7 strong tomorrow to give us the series win, after Phil’s performance tonight.

    • Bob Stone

      From your lips to God’s ears. I hope it happens and I can’t wait to hear Francesa comment.

  • D-Roc

    yanks will win this thing, there scorin 6 runs this inning

    • Bob Stone

      Let’s go Yankees – Clap, Clap – Clap, Clap, Clap!!!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Eaton’s just asking for it. Make him pay.

  • Accent Shallow

    This is the Adam Eaton we’ve all been expecting.

  • Drew

    U da man Eaton!

  • Matt-Pitt

    Can we have a serious rally this inning? Like, put up a 20 spot or something?

  • Matt-Pitt

    Ayoo, there is a run. C’mon Robby, put one in the gap (or stands), and keep the circle moving.

  • 65hughes

    only a sac fly?

  • Bob Stone

    There’s always next inning

  • John

    Swish should have waited to see of he could get a better pitch or walk

  • Drew

    Wow. That was an impressive way to not have a good inning off bases juiced no outs.

  • Accent Shallow

    Robbie, it’s not 2008 anymore.

  • 65hughes

    ah robbie youre killing me

  • D-Roc

    cano needs to get sent down,just a non chalant player

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

    That wasn’t what I expected…

  • Matt-Pitt

    That was awful… Second DP of the game. He has really been struggling lately. Rolling over on everything and not going the opposite way.

  • A.D.

    Is it bad that I’m just pleased they scored a run with bases loaded and 0 out?

  • A.D.

    Why is aceves not in this game?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    WTF where is Aceves???

    • Drew

      Being his Gangster self. He comes in when he damn well pleases.

    • http://9thinning.blogspot.com VO

      In the bullpen, no I’m just kidding I think Joe just really wants to break Edwars arm. In this scenario I seriously do not know why Aceves, Tomko, or even Veras isn’t out there right now.

      • Drew

        My explanation for Tomko is that he hasn’t been stretched out. He’s a 1 or 2 inning guy this year. The other dudes, no idea.

    • Bryan

      Hes on the run from the Po Po

  • stuart

    cano is spanish for clutch. what is a uglier site canos batting avg with RISP or wangs ERA?

    bases loaded no outs against statistically one of the worst pitchers over the last 3 years and they eke out 1 run.

    give me a break

  • Bryan

    The Yankees are making Adam Eaton look like Zack Grenkie, its so frustrating.

    • Bob Stone

      Greinke

  • Arman Tamzarian

    Either Aceves is injured and Tomko’s not here, or Joe Girardi’s job needs to seriously be questioned. This makes zero sense.

    • A.D.

      It has to be either Aceves or one of the other starters is hurt

  • stuart

    cano has a head problem. he is good for an opposite field hit with no one on base but in clutch situations he always tries to be a hero and almost never is the hero.

    i mean he has been playing for the yanks for 4 years when is he going to learn???

  • giselle

    where the fuck are you running to tex? the ball was to your right.

  • Accent Shallow

    Luke Scott is the luckiest man in town tonight. 3 seeing eye ground ball singles.

  • V

    Bad game, all around.

    Bad pitching + horrendous defense + no hitting. Weeeeeee. I’m drunk AND my wife is pissed at me (so no pootie tang :-().

    • Bryan

      IETC!!

      • Whitey14

        What does IETC mean?

        Sorry for being retarded, but I see it so often on here I thought I should ask…

        • Drew

          i enjoyed that comment

          • Whitey14

            Thank you Drew

  • Drew

    Oh poop.

  • Reggie C.

    Edwar’s taking one for the team.

    I just got back from Star Trek. (Awesome)

    – WTF happened with Hughes???

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Horrid 2nd inning. 4 bad defensive misplays prolonged it, and he kept tossing meatballs and couldn’t finish anyone off.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Hughes wasn’t pitching well and the defense was bad for that inning.

    • Nick

      it was bad, just put it that way,

      lots of bad D led to lots of bad runs.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

    Awesome.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    I guess Girardi wants to make sure he gets his money’s worth out of Edwar.

  • Bob Stone

    Ugh!!!! Another home run – Hughes could have done that. Someone said earlier – Edwar = Strikeout, Walk or Homerun – Never anything else.

  • stuart

    as others have said this guy is an arsonist.. hr, walk, or K..

    another game of over 10 runs allowed.. the 2nd worst pitching staff in baseball, are you embarrassed??????????????

  • 65hughes

    oh shit this is getting ugly

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Aaaaaaaalrighty, then.

    Edwar, you can go ahead and start browsing the Scranton Zagat guide for restaurants.

    You’ve been shitty + you have an option = bye.

    • daneptizl

      Robertson back in?

      • Stryker

        he’s been riding the Chris Britton Memorial shuttle to scranton lately. reallllllyyyy hope he doesn’t turn into britton pt. II. d-rob’s too talented for that to happen.

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

        Good Mo, yes.

    • Nady Nation

      I hear Scrantonicity has a local gig on Tuesday. Hopefully Edwar will be there by then to check them out.

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

        Make sure you clap for Scrantonicty 2, not Scrantonicity, which I’m no longer a part of.

        /Kevin’d

  • daneptizl

    Edwar does not dissapoint.

  • cult of basebaal

    christ, Edwar puts more objects into orbit than NASA …

  • stuart

    edwar with the 6 era, cut the mother f-cker already. he has no chance of getting it togethere. he gives up way to many hr’s to be a effective pitcher…

    • Drew

      He has been effective before.

    • Bob Stone

      Edwar has averaged 1.76 homers per nine innings in his time with the Yanks

  • daneptizl

    I’m done now though…

  • Andrew

    Tomko has a pitch limit of 45.

  • Reggie C.

    Can we bring in Aceves for the rest of the game?

  • anon

    Okay. Seriously what does cashman/girardi see in veras-edwar-albie???

    • Mike HC

      They see pitchers that are better than the other options out there.

      • anon

        it’s that bad, huh. so i guess no postseason this year.

      • daneptizl

        I’d take my chances with Robertson and Melancon than those three…

        • anon

          the bullpen is a MESS! I don’t see anyone in the minors helping much either. Cashman has to look elsewhere but teams aren’t trading their guys this early to help the yankees…

  • JobaWockeeZ

    Seriously let’s let Swisher pitch again.

    • MarkinSB

      cant be worse

      • JobaWockeeZ

        And he’ll probably be better.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

    Guys, don’t worry. Edwar was just doing his best imitation of Brett Myers, Jamie Moyer, and Joe Blanton. He’s gonna show it to them when the Phillies roll into the Bronx and it’ll be super awesome.

  • Big Mike

    Another blowout.

    This team is becoming comical.

    Hopefully they can finish over .500 this year. I think that would be a nice accomplishment.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I will bet you any amount of money they finish over .500 this season.

      • Big Mike

        Mike

        That was more of a tongue in cheek remark then something I believe.

        I will however wager anyone that this team misses the playoffs.

        I’d be happy to eat crow, but I just don’t see that happening.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          But our starting RF is injured, our starting catcher is injured, our backup catcher is injured and our number 2 start is injured. They’re not as bad as you think.

          • JobaWockeeZ

            Oh and 2 of our bullpen pitchers are injured.

        • Accent Shallow

          In that case, I’ll bet you a cheapo Baseball Reference sponsorship ($10 per year), that they do.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        I will bet you any amount of money they finish 20+ games over .500 this season.

        • Whitey14

          I can see it now, the Yankees finish at 90-71 and never make up the rain out with the Angels….

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Heh.

  • Drew

    I know this game sucks, but are you guys coming around on the Melkman?

    • Stryker

      i’m pleasantly surprised but i’m not holding my breath that he’ll keep it up.

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

        +53

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          ICWUDT

  • robert skollar

    Last’s night’s game sure turned this season around in a hurry!

  • Phrancis

    Orioles hitters are scary good. That’s the bottom line.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      But their pitching is scary bad. We should be putting up run totals equal to theirs.

    • Big Mike

      The Yankees are mediocre at best. That’s the bottom line.

      • Doug

        /oaktag

        Fixed that for you, buddy.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Nady, Chien Ming Wang, Molina and Posada are injured. Right now they’re mediocre, but when they all come back we’ll be great. Saying finishing over .500 as an accomplishment wouldn’t be to good of one.

  • Reggie C.

    Anybody think Cervelli might be ready to take over the backup CA role in 2010?

    • Accent Shallow

      That’s the plan/hope.

    • Big Mike

      No.

  • robert skollar

    “Orioles hitters are scary good. That’s the bottom line”

    Yeah, especially Louie Montanez who came in hitting 167!.

    • anon

      zaun and montanez’s average might have spooked phil hughes a little.

  • Drew

    Jones comes out and says they have the best lineup in the AL East. We do our best to show that he’s right… Come on guys, lets get some runs.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    If Johnny Damon’s going down, he’s taking you fuckers with him.

  • Reggie C.

    I bet you Teixeira is one relieved #3 hitter.

    • Reggie C.

      i’ll gladly take that back Teix.

      Lets get above the Mendoza line tonight?!?

  • giselle

    kay just sounded wayy too excited to say “And now its 11-3 orioles!” either way, damon rulez.

    • Nick L

      yup

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

    Go, Johnny, go!

  • Accent Shallow

    See, Tex and A-Rod are going to get along fine.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    Teix warming up? Comeback? A-Rod for back to back to back?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    If Tex finds his stroke and wakes up this game, I’ll consider it a win.

    • Reggie C.

      I know you’re looking for positives in a 11-4 game (currently), but lets remember that Teix followed up a 2 homer game last week with another stretch of mediocre hitting.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

    Did Alex get robbed? ‘Cuase it looks over the wall on Gameday.

    • Brazilian Yankee

      no, but he just missed it

    • JobaWockeeZ

      No just short.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

      Ah, alright. At least he’s hitting it hard.

  • Nady Nation

    Ugh, those runs that Edwar has given up could really come back to bite us in the ass. Why the fuck do we have Tomko AND Aceves on this roster if neither is coming in to a 7-0 game in the 2nd?

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

      I can see not bringing in Tomko since he hasn’t been stretched out yet.

      • Nady Nation

        See my response to Drew below.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    Well if we continue averaging scoring 2 runs an inning we’ll win in the 9th.

  • Nady Nation

    Now Albie warming in the 5th. What’s Girardi smoking tonight?

  • Brazilian Yankee

    And Edwar is still in the game…crazy.

  • Accent Shallow

    So why is Albaladejo throwing rather than Tomko/Aceves? I can understand wanting to save one of them for Joba tomorrow, but . . . both? What?

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Albie warming up? Something has to be up with Aceves. Has to be. Girardi’s not this retarded.

    • B.George

      You never know. If something was wrong with him why havent they done anything or sent him down instead of Robertson for Tomko?

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    OH SHIT EDWAR MADE OUTS WITHOUT GIVING UP RUNS

    … it’s bizarro world around here.

    • Nick L

      nothing like looking at the positives

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        Positive: Win, lose, or draw, the Yankees can have some excellent crabcakes after the game tonight.

  • Drew

    Guys, Tomko did not come up to mop up. Why are some of you complaining he is not in?

    • Nady Nation

      “UPDATE, 5:42 p.m.: Girardi said he could use Tomko in any role as he would be able to throw as many as 45 pitches.” – Abraham

      Sounds like he would’ve been perfect for this game.

      • Drew

        True, but we called him up because he’s been the most effective pitcher in our system. Would you rather have Veras in tomorrow in a close game or Tomko?

        • Drew

          Plus, Tomko can still come in, throw 15-20 pitches and be good to go tomorrow. No point in wasting his arm for say 40 pitches in this debacle.

        • Nady Nation

          Probably Veras. Tomko is a journeyman shitty starter who was stashed away at AAA for a reason. I don’t see why all of a sudden we should trust him in a setup role in a close game.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            Agreed.

            I still have more faith in Veras than Tomko.

          • Drew

            Hey, I’m not saying Tomko is great but he’s proven he can throw strikes and get the job done in the minors. We’ve got to give him a shot. Veras has gotten plenty of shots out there. The sad thing is that we’re debating whether or not Tomko should be our setup guy…

  • Nick L

    imagine if it was 8-5

  • giselle

    ok. i guess i can keep watching the game.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    I figured out to do with Nady/Swish platoon. Nady for all home games and Swisher for all away games.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Bonus point: It decreases the chance that Swish hurts his assbone falling down while trying to high-five the home fans.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        IETC. And if Swisher is out for the home games we can turn him into a bullpen pitcher. Then back to hitter on the road.

  • Matt-Pitt

    Least we are showing some life and chipping away. Too bad Edwar couldn’t hold it to just 8 runs. Come on offense, show some more life and at least make this a ball game.

  • Brazilian Yankee

    ’08 Cano is back and it’s not pretty.

    • Accent Shallow

      Depends on how quickly he can get out of this slump.

  • Nick L

    If we win this game, do we forget about hughes’ performance

    • Matt-Pitt

      I don’t think you can.

      I personally won’t forget it. The defense didn’t help him but there were a lot things he needed to do to get himself out of that inning as well and he didn’t do it.

      • Nick L

        perhaps this game is a wake up call for him, i dont think he can work any harder than they say he works, but he knows somethings gotta give.

    • Accent Shallow

      Forget it? No. But I wouldn’t consider bumping him from the rotation just yet.

      • Nick L

        his next start should be friday against the twins at the stadium, lets hope that he can bounce back, i think he will he seems mentally tough.

      • Matt-Pitt

        I wouldn’t either. Its not like he got completely shelled. Gave up some slow rollers and seeing eye singles. A lot of his hard hit balls (Jones’ double, Huff’s homer), were actually pretty decent pitches but better pieces of hitting on their part. Huff’s homerun almost reminded me of Manny’s against the Cubs’ in the postseason last year, the one basically in the dirt and he just golfed it out. Sometimes there just isn’t anything you can do. Hughes does need to put away hitters though, that was his biggest problem tonight.

  • Matt-Pitt

    Top 7 we get 3 more runs, bank it.

    • Reggie C.

      DJ didnt get the memo.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    The only way the Yanks are winning this game is if they string together seven more solo homers.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

      Well they do have A-Rod back…

      • http://www.livevideo.com/RBIRadio Joey H

        Not gonna happen.

  • B.George

    I wonder if this guy can pitch for us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdtn0Z4o8cM

  • Drew

    I don’t see flip flopping Jeter and Damon. Not something I’d be in favor of.

  • Accent Shallow

    I think lost in the haze of “Joba must go to the pen!” is the fact that the Yankees certainly can’t expect Joba to make 30 starts and pitch 180 innings, as well as take his turn in the playoff rotation, contingent of course on their appearing in the playoffs. I’m sure the Yankees aren’t strictly adhering to the Verducci Rule, and Joba could end the year with anywhere from 140-165 innings, but he’s certainly not gonna go 180-200.

    That said, what do they do? Pull the Verlander 2006 plan and give him 9 days off between starts occasionally? Put him in the pen at the end of the year? Shut him down when he hits 25 starts? Package him for Scott Feldman in a display of ineptness by Cashman?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Shut him down when he hits 25 starts?

      That one.

      • Accent Shallow

        I think this is probably the best plan for his long-term development, but I have a hard time seeing that the Yankees would just shut down the guy with arguably the best stuff in the entire rotation.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Meh, if CC is CC, AJ is AJ, Pettitte is Pettitte and Wang is Wang, it will be a little easier.

        • Drew

          If we play the way we’ve been playing it won’t even be an issue come August/September.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      According to Kay, they plan on leaving him in the rotation all year. That means he doesn’t go past 6 and gets skipped on off days.

    • Drew

      The idea was that he’d get 30 starts this year. He’ll hopefully make those 30 starts.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Johnny Damon is hotter than Roger Clemens’s balls.

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      *Golf clap*

    • Nick L

      touche

  • Matt-Pitt

    2-0 count and trying to pull an outside pitche. Hate when the hitters try to do too much. Just go with what the pitcher is giving you.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.baby-bombers.com/ Matt ACTY/BBD

      I call this Hideki-ness.

      • Matt-Pitt

        Feelin’ the name. I guess 2-0 and popping it up would be Teix-ness.

  • Accent Shallow

    Why do garbage hitters like Greg Zaun and Lou Montanez seem to kill us?

  • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

    LoHud

    “UPDATE, 8:22 p.m.: The Yankees are playing their 30th game of the season and tonight marks the ninth time they have allowed nine or more runs in a game.”

    Yikes

  • Tom Zig

    Down by 6….we can do this. I mean come on it is the Oriole’s bullpen after all, it wasn’t designed by uber-GM Theo.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      3 runs per inning is certainly do-able as Michael Kay would say it.

  • http://www.retire21.org Mike R. – Retire 21

    Here’s how we fix this team!

    1- Fire Brian Cashman.
    2- Trade Hughes and Melky to Oakland for Billy Beane and a prospect.
    3- Trade A-Rod and $287,000,000 to the Nationals for the #1 pick in the coming draft.
    4- Switch Derek Jeter to 1st, Move Tex to LF Damon to CF, Swisher to C and Posada to 3rd.
    5- Switch Sterling to the TV Booth, Kay to the Radio booth, Wladman to a Phone booth.
    6- Fire Girardi.
    7- Trade Albaladejo, Bruney and a strand of Scott Proctor’s DNA to the Dodgers for Joe Torre.
    8- Proceed to fire Torre and hire Mattingly. (That’ll light a fire under their asses!)

    Any other ideas?

    /Lohuded

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      Not once did you say how this team of sissies gets some toughness or grit.

      /Fail

      • http://www.retire21.org Mike R. – Retire 21

        Billy Beane!!!!!!1!!!!11!

    • Arman Tamzarian

      I approve of 5

    • Tom Zig

      We can get Theo too, so him and Beane can be co-GMs. We’ll never lose a game.

      Oh and then get Dave Duncan and Leo Mazzone to be co-pitching coaches.

      Tony LaRussa could be the bench coach.

      • http://www.retire21.org Mike R. – Retire 21

        Excellent feedback! You are hired!

    • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

      9-Flip Girardi over, pull down his pants and paint eyeballs on his buttcheeks. Then put his Baseball cap over his ass and tell the team they are now being managed by Joe Girardi’s Ass.

  • B.George

    Do you find it possible that someone else in the rotation is hurt and Aceves is going to make a spot start this week and that is why he wasnt in the game today?

    • http://9thinning.blogspot.com VO

      The only thing I could think of is maybe they are saving him in case Joba struggles tomorrow.

    • Drew

      No? Maybe Joe wants Al to get more important outs.

      • http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/ The Artist

        DING DING DING DING.

      • http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

        Yeah, I think so as well. Same with Tomko. I think we are seeing the end of Edwar and maybe in the late innings today.

        • http://theyankeeuniverse.com Moshe Mandel

          That should read “and maybe Albie.”