May
12

Game 32: A weak lineup vs. a strong pitcher

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The Yankees are facing Roy Halladay today, and on a good day, that’s a tough proposition. Today, though, is seemingly not a very good day for the Yankees. Derek Jeter is out with what is being called a pulled oblique; Kevin Cash is taking his first Yankee swings today; and Brett Gardner is in the lineup for Nick Swisher. Ouch.

Outside of the weak Yankee lineup, the pitching match-up has provided fodder for thought. A.J. Burnett is making his first start in Toronto since opting out of his contract last winter, and he’s facing his ground ball-tossing mentor Halladay. Burnett is off to a rocky start with the Yanks. He may be 2-0 but his 5.26 ERA is none too impressive. Since winning his first two outings, he’s gone 0-0 with a 6.66 ERA. How devilish.

Roy Halladay is doing what Roy Halladay does best. He has a league-leading six wins and a 3.29 ERA. He’s allowed just one walk per start and has a 2.36 ground out-to-fly out ratio. That’s a flat-out Wangian number right there.

The Blue Jays meanwhile are in first place atop the AL East, and this is their first game against an intra-division rival. Joe profiled the Blue Jays earlier today.

Gardner CF
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Cabrera RF
Cash C
Pena SS

Burnett P

Injury Notes: Ian Kennedy had his aneurysm surgery today. He will take six-to-eight weeks off before throwing…Brian Bruney threw with no problems yesterday. He will toss from a mound tomorrow and could be off on a rehab assignment within a week…Chien-Ming Wang is pitching tonight for Scranton. You can follow the action and watch the game via MiLB.com. While the Yankees would love to get him back into the rotation, Brian Cashman has said that Wang will not be rushed. The Yanks want him strong, healthy and effective before activating him.

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312 Comments

  1. So who wants to bet the Yankees go and score ten runs today?

  2. Slugger27 says:

    i dont have issue with gardner in over swisher… swisher has struggled mightily against halladay, gardner has 3 hits in 7 at bats, and on that turf gardner is more valuable defensively

    that said, i dont understand not playing cervelli… i realize hes never been one to hit much, but neither has cash, and its not as if cash hits left-handed

    also, anyone know anything on the jeter injury?

  3. Matt-Pitt says:

    Weak lineup… This would be the type of game too where AJ puts it together, has his solid outing and we can’t score runs for him. Hoping the bottom of the order proves us wrong on that one.

    Truth though, this is a game that doesn’t matter as much as the one in Scranton today. I’ll most likely be following Wang’s start more than anything. Still hope we can squeak a win out today against Halladay.

  4. Mike Axisa says:

    Doc is going to breeze right through that 8-9-1 setup. The bottom/top of the lineup will add like, two innings to Halladay’s night.

  5. e-mills says:

    Just hunch…AJ throws a good game and good production comes from the Yankees 2-7 hitters

  6. ARX says:

    Do we ever miss Halladay when we play the Jays? For all the randomness of the schedule it seems like we always get him recently.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      They try and line him up to face the Yankees. Why not have your best pitcher against the divisional rivals?

      • Branden says:

        That doesn’t make any sense at all. Halladay is the number one in that rotation, and as such takes the ball every fifth day starting from the season opener. The only strategy inherent in this is that he’ll likely pitch against other number one arms. Of course, with off days, rainouts and injuries, this really only works for the first few weeks of any season. Believe it or not, nobody in Toronto actually cares what happens in New York. The Yankees mean about as much as Texas to the team’s schedule at this point. On the bright side, you can still see some quality baseball if you head over to CitiField.

        • The Artist says:

          No, he has a 15-5 record vs the Yanks in recent years. It makes all the sense in the world to pitch him against the Yanks every chance you get. Even more so with them being a division rival, as previously stated.

          • Branden says:

            Still working on his regular scheduling, pitching every fifth day…

            Do you think it might have something to do with the fact that both teams are in the AL East, and therefore play one another 18 times a year? I assure you that nothing changes in the Jays’ lineup when the super scary Yankees come to town. Halladay pitches just as much against the O’s.

            Furthermore, he has those same numbers against everybody, mostly because he’s the best pitcher in baseball (and has been for the last half dozen years). By your logic, the team would then throw him out there at the beginning of every series of the entire season, thereby taking advantage of his outstanding career record. I know that he puts up a ton of innings, but even Doc doesn’t make 60 starts a year.

            • andrew says:

              True, but he pitched against the yankees in all six series last year, that is very rare/unlucky, considering the odds.

  7. Accent Shallow says:

    Boy, it sure is depressing to have the house money lineup facing the opposing ace.

    At least someone interesting in pitching in Scranton tonight. Seems that entire rotation is retreads, with the only exception being George Kontos.

  8. VO says:

    Why isn’t Swisher in?

    • Accent Shallow says:

      Maybe get him some time off, due to that HBP? Seems an odd time to do it, especially against Halladay.

      • cult of basebaal says:

        Since the HBP, Swisher’s 3 of 23 with 12 strikeouts.

        Could be the elbow’s still bothering him a bit.

      • whozat says:

        Bad numbers against Halladay, and this way he gets two full days off after a day game, plus until like…4PM tomorrow? I guess?

    • Slugger27 says:

      5 ks in 12 at bats vs halladay… gardner covers more ground in the OF which is very important in toronto

      i would imagine swisher will certainly pinch hit for cash late in the game

  9. cult of basebaal says:

    this lineup looks like it’s going to be NSFW.

    not.safe.for.watching.

  10. Mike Axisa says:

    Is anyone else’s My9 HD feed acting up?

  11. Mike HC says:

    Maybe some of this bad luck has run out. It could be time for the Yanks to win a game we are not supposed to win on paper. We have sure lost enough that we should have won on paper.

  12. Am I the only one that hasn’t given up on any possibility of winning here?

    I know it’s beyond unlikely, but stranger things have happened, no?

  13. dkidd says:

    if the yankees consistently struggle against journeyman starters, it follows that they will win tonight

    blue jays regression begins now!

  14. Matt-Pitt says:

    Damon looked really safe to me.

  15. Oy Damon you idiot.

    At least we won’t get no hit.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      He was close and he’d be on scoring position. It’s not really that idiotic.

  16. Alex S says:

    what the shit? i’m not getting HD

  17. Mike Axisa says:

    Nice agressive play by Damon with Doc on the mound. Too bad Snider’s got a gun.

  18. 1-2-3 first for Wang.
    I’m in a study group meeting, and I have two Gameday windows going. Win.

  19. Mike Axisa says:

    Well that was a quick inning.

  20. Accent Shallow says:

    I swear, does Tex do anything with the ball other than pop it up?

  21. Matt-Pitt says:

    Teix, take a pitch man. At least make him work a LITTLE bit. Not like you are killing the ball right now too.

  22. Manimal says:

    6 pitches? Thats it?

  23. dkidd says:

    does chad jennings ever live blog from scranton?

  24. Accent Shallow says:

    I suppose congratulations are in order, Mr. Burnett, for not allowing Scutaro to reach.

  25. Charlie says:

    Take a pitch tex.he usually takes three strikes right down the middle. why not take one there

  26. dkidd says:

    cito gaston scares me

  27. Charlie says:

    Burnetts throwin pretty friggin hard

  28. pat says:

    No Kay, DELIGHTFUL.

  29. Accent Shallow says:

    Wait, the Yankees are allowed to retire Rios?

    When did this rule change?

  30. Matt-Pitt says:

    Nice inning, AJ. Lets work Halladay at least a little here.

  31. Man Toronto fans are rough.

    STILL the Ha game?

    • Nady Nation says:

      I’m gonna go out on a limb and say it’s steroid related.

    • The Artist says:

      Usually, its a good sign when fans in the opposing ballparks hate you. But Alex managed to even screw that up. As great a player as he is, he is equally bad at PR.

  32. Charlie says:

    I can’t believe i was rootin for gardner in spring training. hes completely useless. todd linden or jrod should be up here

    • Thomas says:

      J-Rod can’t play center, so Gardner is probably more worthwhile to the team than J-Rod is. I’m not sure I can same the same about Linden though.

  33. Jamal G. says:

    Anyone’s audio on the HD feed ahead of the picture (i.e. glove popping before pitch reaches glove)?

  34. Mike Axisa says:

    2 perfect IP, 15 pitches, 3-2 GB/FB for Wang.

  35. Right now Halladay 5/1 GB/FO

  36. nathan says:

    This game is ending before 9 pm. Over/Under on the Doc throwing 9 innings

  37. Jackson says:

    I think it’s pretty clear whats going on right now. The teams made plans to go see Star Trek after game together but they could only get tickets to the 9:30 showing.

  38. manimal says:

    What is wang’s velocity?

  39. jeremy51 says:

    Off-Topic here, but did anyone hear Steve Phillips call Dustin Pedroia and Kevin Youklis “flawless players” today on the Michael Show?

  40. Joey H. says:

    How long can Cashman let this team stay the way it is? We need some reinforcements. I’m not asking for a huge deal but a little help from outside the organization to help out the bullpen (Middle Relievers) and some bench depth. And I know Mike Cameron is a name commonly brought up. Lets keep in mind he strikes out more than he walks by a large margin.

    • Nick L says:

      any suggestions of whom you want

      • Joey H. says:

        Not sure at this point. But it’s obvious something need to be done. I look at it this way, Posada got hurt. The team was A-Rod-less for a month. Bruney has been out for a while CMW was terrible. This team a week ago was as bad as it might be this year. However when everyone comes back and the team is at full strength the team still has a fair amount of weaknesses. There is no excuse for a team with a $200m + Payroll to have a bad bench. None.

        • Yeah, but if/when Nady comes back and Posada is back in the lineup, the bench gets a HUGE upgrade, doesn’t it?

          • Joey H. says:

            Not at all. Well saying not at all isn’t fair. But Nady can’t play the field. So we have two hurt OF’s who can only DH. So HUGE? Nope.

            • andrew says:

              Nady will be one of the best pinch hitters coming off the bench in the league, not many teams will have guys of that caliber to bring in late in them game.

            • Well, we don’t know whether Nady will be able to field or not. Probably not I guess, but we don’t know that.

              So the bench, with Nady and Posada back, is what, Nady/Matsui, Pena, Molina/Posada, Gardner(/Linden?)?

              I think they’d always have a decent bat on the bench to pinch-hit, they have their utility infielder with Pena, and if Gardner’s there you’ve got some speed (Pena can run, too). And they could also go with one more position player and one less bullpen arm, too.

              It’s a bench, it’s never going to have great players on it. As far as benches go, I think that bench would be pretty decent. You may not call it a “huge” improvement, but that’s immaterial.

              • The Artist says:

                If Saito can PITCH with that blood therapy, Nady can’t throw the ball in from Left once or twice a game?

              • Joey H. says:

                I’m sure there will be plenty of precautions with Nady. It’s a good point in the comment above. I just really hope it all works out. Every game is important in this division. Game 1 is as important as 162.

        • Charlie says:

          I would give linden a shot, get rid of Tomko(never shoulda brought him up), bring up melancon and/or robertson. Also once arod shows hes ok DFA Berroa and bring up Miranda.

        • Steve O. says:

          Eh, you can live with a bad bench, a bad starting nine and pitching staff, not so much. There aren’t many good players on the bench, and when they are good, they start.

          • Joey H. says:

            You can live with a bad bench? Really? I had no idea. When the team is getting up there in age, guys are going to need day’s off. Or for the hell of it, what if a core veteran goes down? They need to have a more adequate temporary replacement than what this team has.

        • andrew says:

          Well, when everyone is healthy, the Yankees will have a bench of Nady, Pena, Gardner and Molina. One speed demon pinch runner and defensive replacement in the outfield (for swish or nady), a great defensive catcher, a great utility infielder, and a big bat… cant ask for much more than that.

          • Joey H. says:

            Okay. That’s the optimistic’s way of looking at it. Now, How about the bullpen?

            • andrew says:

              Yea, I’m sure i was probably being overly optimistic, but when you have Molina, Nady, Pena and Gardner on your bench… you pretty much have all the basic needs covered… infield and outfield defense, speed, and a bat. Not a great bench, but a good one.

              The bullpen has other issues, i was not as comfortable as most people were coming into the season… hopefully they can figure something out eventually. I have no suggestions for them as of now.

            • The Artist says:

              Bruney and Marte are back by June 1st, and I still think Melancon will be huge for us later this year.

  41. Alex S says:

    imagine where the Jays would be if they still had AJ

  42. Thomas says:

    Actually, lacrosse is Canada’s national sport, Ken Singleton.

    Damnit A-Rod.

    • Thomas says:

      Nevermind, apparently Canada has an official winter (hockey) and summer sport (lacrosse).

  43. Would like to see a little more command here.

  44. Jersey says:

    Hold it together, AJ! Don’t freak out!!

  45. Jamal G. says:

    Are Toronto fans really cheering a fly-out that advanced the runner on second to third with two outs? Fucking Canada.

  46. Rene says:

    he is bringing heat 97mph!!!!!!

  47. dkidd says:

    pena! very comfortable with him at ss

  48. Mike Axisa says:

    Slick hands by Pena.

  49. pat says:

    Who else got that feeling in the pit of their stomach they get when they know an easy groundball is about to go pastadivingjeter?

  50. Canadians are weird, mind. They still think it’s acceptable to root for the Leafs.

  51. Mike Axisa says:

    Booo Kevin Cash for wearing Shelley’s number!!!

  52. dkidd says:

    welcome to the big leagues, cash

  53. Raf says:

    is that 25 pitches through 3 innings for Halladay? damn.

  54. Jersey says:

    Wang perfect through three in Scranton, with 3 Ks.

  55. Mike Axisa says:

    This game will be over by 8:30.

  56. cjc says:

    over under Halladay’s pc tonight 90

  57. Jackson says:

    6 balls in 3 innings. This guy is good.

  58. nathan says:

    Living in the west coast…. at this rate the game might b over by the time i reach home… LOL…

    when did we become Automatic Out Machines…

  59. Shamik says:

    the bottom of the lineup is just brutal

  60. Joey H. says:

    My guess is CMW gets another start in the minors. His velocity is still at 90.

  61. cjc says:

    25 pitches in 3 innings he’s just amazing

  62. Mike HC says:

    Obviously Damon is the only one with a hit so far … but we will get to him the second time around the order. Right???

  63. I think that report on Wang’s velocity may have been off. Jennings is saying he’s been between 90-92 so far, with one 93 (but he doesn’t seem to have much faith in the gun tonight).

  64. Drew says:

    Oh no! AJ’s necklace broke!

  65. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

    Wow this game is going preety quick.

  66. Mike Axisa says:

    It’s a shame that Sidney Ponson has pitched in more playoff games than Halladay.

  67. nathan says:

    Is Swisher hurt or is it the turf..

  68. Drew says:

    His curveball is sick as shit tonight

  69. Joey H. says:

    AJ is throwing a little too hard.

  70. I’m not sure how that was on time but I’ll take it.

  71. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

    Nice play by kevin cash.

  72. Jamal G. says:

    Nice job, Melky Scutaro.

  73. Mike Axisa says:

    Thanks for sliding into first Scutaro. No brains, all grit.

    • Drew says:

      I tend to like the slide. It’s hard to land on the closest part of the bag when your running full speed.

      • Jackson says:

        But it’s slower.

      • Mike Axisa says:

        But whatever you gain by touching the closest part of the bag is lost by slowing down to slide.

        • andrew says:

          Running and touching front of base > running and touching back of base > sliding

        • Drew says:

          True, I just don’t think it’s as cut and dry as some make it out to be. If a guys natural instinct is to dive then there’s a reason. He feels that will get him there quicker.

          • andrew says:

            Feeling isn’t the same as doing. There’s a reason Usain Bolt didn’t dive across the finish live.

            • Drew says:

              True but crossing a line with any part of your body is different than stepping on a bag.

      • andrew says:

        No evidence to back this up, but im fairly certain its faster to run to first. the dive slows you down.

        • Drew says:

          That’s what the analysts say. Hey, ask the player, you think a player will say I dive to get there slower? I don’t understand why guys like Leiter continually bash the dive. He’s never done it..

          • andrew says:

            Well of course a player isn’t going to say he does it to get there slower, but that doesn’t mean he is correct. He may think sliding gets him there faster, but he can be wrong. For example, Jeff Francouer’s response to why OBP isn’t important is because “if it’s important, why don’t they show it on the scoreboard?” These guys have been doing things the way they want to all their lives, and it is hard to show them otherwise.

  74. Joey H. says:

    Ha. Was it Jamal G. who said when we signed Cash after we got Tex
    “Ha we took your first basemen of the future and your shitty back up catcher as well?”

  75. dkidd says:

    1 run will win this game

  76. Charlie says:

    BJ’s hit total = 0

  77. Shamik says:

    burnett is dealing!…lets give him some support

  78. Alex S says:

    really tired of gardener’s slap hitting crap. dude cant hit a line drive. he does not belong the a major league roster

  79. cjc says:

    so not to be too obvious or anything but Gardner is garbage

  80. Mike HC says:

    It seems as if all the players who are considered “gritty,” are white. Am I missing something? Everyone calls Boston a gritty team and is it any coincidence that they are all basically white. It is like the NFL Draft … where all the white guys have a high football IQ and good football pedigree and the black guys are freakish athletes. I don’t think this way, but it is funny how certain labels seem to stick with certain races, regardless of if they make any sense.

    • Alex S says:

      black/ latino players are exciting and athletc

      white players are gritty and gamers

    • cjc says:

      gritty is just a word used to hype up a below avg player

    • Mattingly's Love Child says:

      You are right on with that. Ramiro Pena should be described as gritty, but he never will.

      • Mike HC says:

        Yea, exactly. Pena is just considered not that good, but if he was white, he would be a gritty gamer a la David Eckstein

    • andrew says:

      Of course, there’s always the exception to the rule, but Matt Jones was a white “freakish athlete” coming out of Arkansas a few years ago

      • Mike HC says:

        very true … always are exceptions … Ozzie Guillen and Orlando Cabrera were/are considered gritty and gamers

  81. cjc says:

    so I think Damon just saw more pitches in that ab than the rest of the team combined

  82. We might not have another baserunner the rest of this game.

  83. Alex S says:

    why is it that only lefty-handed power hitters get the shift but right-handed power hitters dont?

    • Evan says:

      Because the 1st baseman is not going to play where the 2B is. It would take too long to run over to first.

    • Jackson says:

      The natural swing of a lefty is more pull oriented. Plus with a lefty shift the third baseman plays in the area of the shortstop. You can’t pull the first baseman that far off the bag for a righty shift so the second baseman can’t shift over as far.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      I’ve seen it, but it’s rare. Tampa played the shift on Pedroia last weekend.

  84. Jackson says:

    11 pitch inning. Halladay is definitely tiring.

  85. dkidd says:

    wow

  86. Raf says:

    those last two pitches to Tex were nasty.

  87. Evan says:

    Tex saw 3 pitches. That’s pretty good. He followed that last one all the way into the mitt.

  88. nathan says:

    Off game Q: Does your Yankee moment has to come at home in the ninth inning only… Just wondering if Tex hits game winning HR in the top of the eighth of a 1-0 win will it count :-)

  89. Jersey says:

    Halladay is averaging 9 pitches an inning. It’s amazing watching this guy work, even if it’s against the Yanks.

  90. Mike Axisa says:

    Right on cue with the no-hitter jinx My9. Bravo.

  91. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

    Dammit Ken singleton jinx it we would of had a no hitter tonight but u can thank ken.

    • YankeeHal says:

      Wong has pitched 4 shutout innings for S/WB. In the top of the fourth, he got hit in a leg by smash back to the box. but he stayed in the game and got the last out of the inning. Appears to be OK.

    • Nick L says:

      anyone hear Michael Kay flipping out on a caller during his radio show about jinxing a no hitter, its hilarious.

      • Joey H. says:

        Kay is a contradicting bastard. He gets all on someone’s case for doing something but he’ll go and do it and expect no criticisms. Guy is a grade A dick.

        • Nick L says:

          well someone was telling him he jinxed wangs no hitter last year, and Kay flips out on him and starts making comparisons to nazis and slaves, its a bit rediculous.

  92. What the hell is it with the no hitter jinx? Grar.

  93. Shamik says:

    oh great…leadoff double

  94. Jamal G. says:

    Careful with your oblique, Vernon.

  95. Mike Pop says:

    Ugh, come on A.J.

  96. Shamik says:

    we need a double play here

  97. JobaWockeeZ says:

    If the man one second scores, YES should take the earned run.

  98. Joey H. says:

    Watching Doc throw baseballs is like watching anyone else throw whiffleballs.

  99. Please don’t walk the bases loaded with 0 out AJ.

  100. Evan says:

    We basically have 8 more outs that can score runs. 8, 9 and 1 are not going to get much going. Hopefully they can put up some tough at-bats. Get Halladay out by the 7th?

  101. Evan says:

    Yikes.

  102. Mike Pop says:

    Motherfu****

  103. Charlie says:

    What the fuck AJ

  104. yankeefan91 Arod fan says:

    Come on burnett strike out the side.

  105. Jersey says:

    Oooohhh shit

  106. The Artist says:

    Ladies and Gents, this is the game right here.

  107. Charlie says:

    at least throw a strike to lind. if he bombed one, it’ll help my fantasy team

  108. Evan says:

    AJ has nasty stuff tonight. I think he can work out of this. 1 ER here would be excellent.

  109. manimal says:

    Where is Eiland? I fucking hate him, he never goes out when a pitcher is losing command

  110. Jamal G. says:

    Perfect opportunity for a changeup, no?

  111. Evan says:

    And that’s the game.

  112. Mike HC says:

    not good

  113. So I hate to be a pessimist, but that’s probably the game.

  114. Mike Pop says:

    Buried.

  115. YankeeHal says:

    Wong back out for the 5th — 1 hit shutout so far. Got hit in the ankle by a batted ball last inning, but must be OK. Outstanding so far…scheduled for about 100 pitches.

  116. Mike Axisa says:

    You can’t be throwing Rolen breaking balls, he can’t catch up to quality fastballs anymore.

    • Mike HC says:

      It was also odd that A-Rod was not playing closer to the line if Burnett was going to throw off speed, thus the chances of him pulling it are greater.

  117. Joey H. says:

    I hope that wasn’t Pete Abe posting a comment about the game thread at LoHud over at Jennings’ blog.

  118. Charlie says:

    aj is starting to piss me off. It seems like he always starts out on fire, but then gets into a little trouble and lets the game get out of hand. Throw some f***in strikes and maybe this wont happen!!!!

  119. Brazilian Yankee says:

    It doesn’t matter how great your stuff is if you can’t locate it. Burnett is very frustrating to watch.

  120. Nick L says:

    what is it with pass balls with runners on third this year?

  121. cjc says:

    and thats why aj has never been as good as he should be too many walks

  122. Jamal G. says:

    Cash, you worthless shit.

  123. Drew says:

    CASH= SUCK

  124. Nick L says:

    come on Cash, cervelli would have caught it

  125. Joey H. says:

    Did he touch the plate anyway?

  126. jeremy51 says:

    Cash needs to handle that throw. Could have been a huge momentum shift right there.

  127. manimal says:

    Did I mention that I hate Kevin Cash?

  128. Mike HC says:

    that was an unbelievable throw, but too bad cash could not handle it

  129. Brooklyn Ed says:

    so why did Cashman signed Cash? he’s not good defensively. forget his bat.

  130. The Artist says:

    We gonna score three runs against Halladay?

  131. Bob Stone says:

    Cash should have turned his glove – then he might have caught it – Great throw by Melky wasted

  132. Ah, nice job screwing up Melky’s brilliant double play, Cash.

    Woulda been out by a mile.

  133. Nick L says:

    nice curve

  134. Mr. Rodriguez says:

    I’m a Cervelli fan myself

  135. Dude, guys, there’s a reason Cash is the FOURTH string catcher.

    Against, say 90% of other pitches three runs is not a huge deal.