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Game 35 Spillover Thread
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So why didn’t Gardner steal?
lefty pitcher & mauer behind the plate? just a guess
damn it tex…is he being booed?
So I just got back from umpiring. I think I must’ve called only about 25 strikes the whole game. The rest were either swings and misses or balls. Ten year olds suck at getting the ball over the plate.
when i used to ump that age the rule was if it made it to the catcher without bouncing it was a strike
Haha, nice.
the first couple times i had a strike zone, but then after 3 hours in 90 degree weather i stopped.
the games used to go by in 90minutes, it was great.
Did you Enrico Palazzo it?
Nah, I wasn’t behind the plate and the strike calls were too few and far between. When I do 11-12 year old games and go behind the plate, I’ll definitely Pollazzo it.
How emphatic were your calls?
Point at the kid, tell him to sit his ass down
The ones I made on the bases were much better than the few I made at the plate.
Shawn earned comment of the night.
pc69 says:
May 15th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Define dominating? Do the hitters in AAA hit mistakes as well as in the majors?
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Define where the hell else you wanted him to go. What comes after AAA? I’ll give you a hint. It’s not BBB.
And not, AAA hitters don’t hit mistakes nearly as well as major league hitters. There’s a reason they’re in AAA.
So the solution to that problem is keep getting those guys at AAA out, bring him up and complain he should be sent down to “work on stuff” when he struggles adjusting? He needs seasoning at the major league level. Yes, he might get blown out sometimes, but he’ll also spin some gems. It’s part of learning to pitch.
I think that he needs to work on his change-up. It’d certainly be easier to do that in AAA. But you’re right, he needs to learn how to get major league hitters out. He can get MiL hitters with just the fastball and curve, apparently.
His curve ball can work as a changeup. He has 3 pitches as far as I know, his fastball, cutter and curve. If he can work those three effectively, he won’t need a change, it’ll be a luxury. The problem tonight was he lost his curveball.
While he can absolutely pitch very effectively at the ML level without the change (ref: his first start back), I think that a pitcher needs more than one off-speed pitch. A night like this would be a good example of why.
Yep. Exactly my point. Let’s keep him in AAA his whole career so he can pitch to a 1.86 ERA or whatever it was. People have no logic.
You didn’t read that correctly. I never once said that he should be in AAA. I was saying that pc69 wasn’t making sense.
The only way that Hughes is going to fulfill his talent is to learn at the major league level and struggle like almost every other major leaguer.
Your comment was VERY vague. I read it 5 times and it didn’t register.
I’m not going to lose any sleep over it not registering with you. pc69 made a comment about AAA hitters being able to hit mistakes too. I said that they can’t hit them like major leaguers. If I needed to say that Hughes needs to pitch in the majors as the next step in his learning process, lesson learned. I didn’t realize it was such an exercise in mental gymnastics.
Based on the posts I’ve read from you tonight, I have no problem concluding that you’re a total prick.
And you’re a sweetheart, V.
Thanks for your opinion. It’s much appreciated.
Yeah dude. You’re an asshole.
I dream of a Michael-Kay-less YES Booth.
same, but everyone else they got pretty much sucks too
The Toronto series was pretty sweet.
Someone explain to me what purpose Gardner serves if he isn’t stealing every time he’s on base?
Does he not read pitchers well?
Everyone in the stadium knows Crawford is going, yet he still steals all the time. Is Gardner not that fast? What am I missing here? Jeter has more steals than Gardner (granted in twice as many times on base).
Someone please explain this to me so I can stop ripping my hair out when someone GIDPs with him on base.
Gardner usually waits until the 5th pitch of an AB to run.
I absolutely agree. But did Tex see a ball or a called strike that AB?
Nope. But if he’s running on that play, he’s not out at second. And if he IS out at second, it’s at least close.
I’m not that mad about that particular at-bat. It’s more of a general thing.
Waiting until the 5th pitch of an AB is fine if you’re not “one of the fastest players in baseball.” I’m not saying he has to run every single pitch, but he was supposed to be this “burst of energy” and “bring an element to the team that wasn’t there” and a lot of other crap. He was supposed to make up for his lack of on base skills with SPEED!!!!!!!
Maybe I’m overreacting, but this is definitely not the first time I’ve thought about this, or started a conversation about it.
Nope. We still agree. That’s what he’s supposed to do. Good point.
Does he have the green light from Girardi? Or does he have to wait for a sign?
Having him on first gives Tex or Arod a hole on the right side
Lefty pitcher & Mauer behind the plate
I would tend to agree with you. Speed like that, he should be going practically all the time.
Joe Torre can’t possibly be making the call to the pen. Tanyon Sturtze is about retired and Scott Proctor is ready to have TJ surgery.
Is Luis Vizcaino in the house?
Oh my. I totally forgot about him. He was good after a while was he not? I know he totally sucked and then Mo worked with him and he was decent there after.
He signed with Cleveland recently.
4 innings for 2 runs (hopefully no more but Albie is up)
let’s do it!
Why not let the Kid pitch the 6th, if he gets 3 outs its a qulity start… its also abt building some confidence right
or he puts 2 on with no outs then you force a shakey bullpen to make no mistakes
Pitch count + the stress of the innings he pitched. He didn’t have a lot left, if anything.
Time to bump Tex off the 3rd spot… maybe Park Matsui there for now..
I have Derek Jeter’s Cologne…
*High Five* … Sorry I had to.
Anthony Mason in the house.
Former Knick? You mean Jet right? He’s HUGE.
Dammit. Let’s go, Alphabet.
Anthony Mason looks really old.
How about that Snickers commercial with “Patrick Chewing?” That’s OLDDDD.
Can Mase drive in a run with a RISP?
Something tells me the yanks gave away all the Luxury seats to all these Celebs.
does anyone else think the yanks need to start taking off the kids’ gloves when it comes to hughes?
i understand he’s only 22 and there’s no need to rush him, but at what point do they say “ok, he needs to start figuring himself out at the major league level”? just watch – when he goes back down to AAA when CMW returns he’ll be the same ol’ phil hughes. shouldn’t NOW be the time where he pitches through trouble so he learns for when he’s in the major league rotation full time next year – rather than doing all the figuring out then?
/shrug
Hughes will get plenty more starts in the majors this year, even if he gets sent down when Wang returns. They’ll need someone to take Joba’s innings.
Besides, whose spot would he take if he stays up here? Or do you bump him to the pen?
I agree that he needs to learn how to get major league hitters out, but hopefully if he’s in AAA he’s working on, say, the change, or fastball command rather than buckling the knees of kids who can’t deal with a curve like that.
he needs to face major league hitters, not AAA hitters. unfortunately for him, the yankees are always in WIN NOW mode so every time he struggles he’s facing a demotion.
They’ll take the kid gloves off when he’s 30. The kids never learned how to pitch out of trouble and out of jams. He’ll probably succeed when they trade him this summer for a reliever or a bat.
There is zero chance he’s traded for a reliever. Zero.
Albaladejo makes Tolbert look silly there. Of course, he’s paid to make guys with a career MiL SLG of <.400 look silly.
Thanks john danks for fucking my fantasy team
hahahahaha “a more delicious type of K”
I thought he was talking about himself.
So V let me get this straight, because God forbid you don’t like something someone says (I know shocker). If I stated that Liriano looks average that means that I think he is no better than kei igawa. So I am a fucking idiot?
I don’t think that is what I said, but so that you will feel better and learn to love, TONIGHT, Liriano looks average with his command.
And the throw versus/pitch is NOT tired, Mussina circa 2008. Couldn’t throw but had to pitch. See also, Maddux, Glavine, Moyer, and on and on.
I think you are fairly intelligent when it comes to baseball but your sarcasm and needless comments towards others who you feel superior towards is as tired as the Yankees lack of hitting. Either ignore a comment or come back with facts. Not every entry is constructed via the World of Perfect Baseball statements. Sometimes it is pure emotion – oops I know that means I am a fan and irrational at times.
:yawn:
Right on queue
What does the V stand for? I could venture a guess.
The correct answer to the text poll is Joe Mauer. There is no opinion. It’s Joe Mauer.
I was hoping they’d have a clearly lesser option in there, like Jason Kubel or Glen Perkins.
Nothing like scoring only one run on a guy throwing more balls than strikes.
Oh my how the mighty have fallen.
My buddy and I were just getting into the NBA Jam type calls for Swisher too. “Puts up a brick…It’s good!” “Jams it in!” “Ugly shot…It’s good!” “The nail in the coffin!”
Hopefully by June we’ll be bringing back a “Nothing but net” call at the very least..
I get more excited for a Cano walk than a Cano single.
i hate that this inning is left to our 4th string catcher
Wait, what?
nvm, gameday had me confused there
for some reason i thought cash was up
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK
Two walks in the inning, the last one on four pitches, and Melky swings at the first pitch. Awesome.
In his defense, Paulie O. agreed with the decision…
Cashman better start working the phone lines for a righty with some pop. Nady may come back but that is a serious injury. Jermaine Dye perhaps?
Two words: Jorge Vazquez
What? Why? That makes no sense. Where would Dye fit in? Unless Matsui starts to tank or gets injured, Jermaine Dye doesn’t make sense for the Yankees.
Dye is right field. Swisher to the bench. Gardner back to the freakin minors.
Dye is really a DH these days. And he’s certainly not better than Swisher.
So you relegate a guy to the bench because of a slump? Please. Plus, any value Dye gives with his bat he immediately gives back with his awful fielding. I’m not giving up anything for Jermaine Dye if I’m Cashman.
Melky should give up switch hitting, he sucks from the right side.
holy shit i just saw Mauer’s numbers. HE was out for a friggin month, is 0 for 3 today, and is hittin 424 w/ 14 rbis!!! Thats not fair
Mauer just told Coke to go home and get his shinebox. That was a fucking shot.
Did Coke just point as if the jack was a popup? Argh.
Didn’t Mauer have back problems? I sure didn’t see them on that swing.
and now he jacks one
I hope this team has 2 lucky swings left in this game. i dont see us manufacturing a run the ‘ol walk-single-single way.
i guess we need 3 lucky swings to tie this up..
Absolutely awesome, I wonder if their are any professional hitters available
So that’s how the heart of a lineup is supposed to hit! I thought they were supposed to make outs with RISP every single time.
I’m not gonna complain after Ortiz’s performance yesterday. 0-7, 12 LOB.
damn… now that’s a terrible game.
Coke is it!
this game is not lookin good at all. we had plenty of blown chances earler and if we don’t rally in the next 2 innings, its joe nathan time
this is a rough one to watch
it’s only 4-1. This is fun to watch compared to some other games. We’ll win this game.
grand slam by cash
It’s fun to watch them fail in the clutch???
No, it’s fun to watch baseball. Why the hell do you watch?
Pa.The.Tic.
Bullpen is terrible
Im on gameday. WHY did that just happen
Bullpen is downright putrid. I do not know how Mo puts up with the smell.
He’s trying not to catch the crap disease from them.
Coke has had scoreless outings in 11 of his last 13 outings.
soooooooooooo how about that homefield advantage awesome
Oh look, another anti smoking commercial that uses pointless scare tactics.
it hurts me emotionally to see brett fuckin tomko in our pen pitching in a non blowout
with or without manny, the dodgers are still a damn good team
We don’t have ANY pinch hitters? My god.
nope, thats what happens with a bench of (normally) kevin cash, brett gardner, and angel berroa
I am pained to watch the middle of our line-up bat, especially with risp, bunch of girls swinging at any thing that is thrown and watching the ones suppose to drive. GRRRRR
well not the way to start off the home series.
That was the first 95mph curveball I’ve ever seen.
I don’t even know why YES has a gun.
Seriously, i’ve seen all kinds of ridiculous speeds including a 55 mph heater from AJ Burnett
I prefer Phil Hughes’ slow hook at 92.
his era is 8 and he as given up a run in 3 straight games so what will happen crain goes 123 sick its just sick
Yeah, you posted that at Lohud also. Still doesn’t make you right.
Watch out… Gardner’s a home run threat.
OOOOOOOOO SHIT I JUST DID THAT WITH MY MIND! !!!
I was totally kidding!
Didn’t know how right you were, huh?
run brett run
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRETT!!!!! THE GRIT FACTOR IS OFF THE CHARTS!!!!
Today, literally our entire lineup seems like a black hole.
2nd MLB home run!
Johnny Damon could’ve done that.
THAAAAAAAAAT’S GRIT!
gardner: 2 HR
ortiz: 0 HR
=)
How good would Gardner be if he could get on base more?
All he needs is for outfielders to nonchalantly attempt to field his soft pop-ups, and he can put together a 15-20 HR season.
Send the memo around. People need to know.
WEre alive
that wasnt supposed to be a reply*
That was pretty cool.
nice throw
Gritt gardner bitches!
holy shit on gameday how did that happen
It bounced in front of Span but it took a funny hop and skipped past him, and it just kept rolling away.
Ball got passed Span. Grit turned on the jets.
Span played it awfully.
bloop single to left, gets past spahn, rolls all the way to the wall, grit runs home
*span*
It’s tough to play defense when you’re dead.
A-ROD!
(clap clap)
A-ROD!
(clap clap)
And that’s another reason why I prefer the crappy fast guy to the crappy not fast guy in center.
So… Melky is crappy? 315 BA, huh, yea, that sucks.
I will (disgusting act) if Melky is over 290 on June 15.
OMFG, GARDNER IS OPSING 1.200 IN MAY
Melky isn’t good.
Hilarious.
Does Crain pitch around A-Rod?
The good ol’ unintentional intentional walk to A-Rod.
Most feared.
I’ll take 3 BBs, anyday, ARod.
Blue Jays and the Twins, please grow a pair and stop walking A-Rod. Kthxbai.
Seriously… but Matsui has gone somewhat cold since his return.
they really shouldn’t be walkin him now when hes still rusty
But Liriano did go after him with the bases loaded… to his credit.
A-Rod looked awful in that at bat. Three ugly, ugly swings.
come on Sui
Arod’s OBP is crazy for someone hitting .1-something
Don’t do it Jose Mijares!
Dek Master Flex time.
Matsui hit the go ahead jack yesterday against an LHP. More of the same, please.
Oh and for the record the HR count with Ortiz and Gardner is +2 for Gardy.
Yikes, DekMan used to go the other way, it seems like now he just tries to pull everything… It’s okay, pull one out!
no where near the plate there
We need to get back in time about 3 weeks ago and grab THAT Nick Swisher for this AB.
We need the April Swisher here!
Swishaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, please get a hit.
come on swisher
Man, that looks really bad…
Jesus Swisher has no chance… he’s lost.
So has this ump been fair to both teams with his terrible strikezone or is it just the Yankees again?
Both ways.
Early on it was against the Yankees. All of the Umps. Watch the first 35 minutes of the encore and judge for yourself.
I saw the Damon K which was ridiculous but then I stopped watching briefly. But yeah teh umps are at it again.
LET IT HIT YOU!
Oh Xavier Nady, Where art thou?
Nady’s awesome. We really need him back pretty soon at this point
A wild pitch here would be nice.
Let’s go, Swish!
Maybe someone can pitch underhand to Swisher for him to get a hit.
Ozzie was right about this guy.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slump
You know, Tex ain’t exactly hitting too well either. Were we all wrong about him?
Damn.
God damn.
oh how i wish that was April-Swisher at bat.
one time just one fucking time get a hit
Oy vey.
Oh Nick.. Why did you tease us? Where have you gone?
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK. 21 fucking men left on base and only 2 damn runs= Suck
The fact that they kept in the lefty to face Swisher from the right side shows you how bad he’s swinging the bat.
That doesn’t make sense. I think they left the lefty in because they knew a) it’s impossible to matchup against a switch hitter, and b) Robbie Cano, a lefty hitter, was due up after Swisher.
Duh. Stupid thinking on my part. What you said makes way more sense. I’m letting my pessimism get the better of me.
Another wasted opportunity.
I think it is safe to say an inside the park homerun is better then a steal of home.
At least Gardner woke me up with the inside the parker!
yea but now were screwed with the bottom due up next inning
Disclaimer: The use of the word “Queer” isn’t meant to insult and actually doesn’t even refer to homosexuals in the following statement. Because they’d be ashamed to be mentioned in the same sentence with this snarky dope.
Michael Kay is such a queer. I’m tired of his idiotic commentary. And to think, at one point I defended him.
Speaking of idiotic commentary that I’m tired of . . .
So then don’t reply.
Who the hell is pitching?!!11?!!?111
Isn’t it still Tomko?
WHO!?
Yeah I’m even getting pissed with our lack of ability to hit pitchers we should hit and hit with runners in scoring position.
So in watching this game, one thing is becoming apparent, it is not the stadium’s design that is responsible for all the home runs.
.321, .333, .571, .905 – That’s the team line with the bases loaded. Hard to believe. Although overall with RISP is much worse.
.249, .348, .438, .785
whered u get those numbers? Cause it seems like the risp is even a little high
Good old baseball-reference.
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2009
Usually won’t be up to date. Today is not included.
Ortiz, Elsbury, Pedroia = Gardner
Of course not. Gardner is a Yankee therefore only plays for the money and therefore does not have grit. And watch ESPN not talk about his inside the park homerun while they still jizz their pants about the Ellesbury stealing home play.
I’m talking about hr’s.
Oh Lol. Then according it ESPN it has to be the result of roids. The Yankees are a disgrace to baseball.
I love it. Let’s see some passion.
A little fire is good.
And that WAS dangerous.
This game is OOZING a comeback
Yeah, but in order for that to happen, Edwar has to hold them first…
As long as he pitches 1 inning Edwar holds
Have some confidence man. You reap what you sew.
see
8 walks alone scores the 2 runs. where is this $120M offense? hip hip jorge!
drill him.
If we lost Teix I’d kill myself.
The Twins are really starting to piss me off with their small ball play today.
Teix will be even easier to root for when he starts hitting!
If we cannot get fired up after the play at first by the twinkees then we will not get it done—-again
I love love LOVE Girardi going straight after Gardenhire
Wow, YES cuts back to the game after a pitch has been thrown. Why does YES suck?
He gets DRILLED next time if I am Girardi. Screw that. In fact hot someone in the eye. I don’t care. I am tired of dirty ball players. I want a Joba heater to hit someone right in the helmet to get the message across.
+1
I don’t know what you mean. But I’m pretty pissed. Once is an accident. Twice is intentional.
Oh I’m pissed. I feel the same way. I’d rather hit Morneau or Mauer though. Gomez is a steal threat.
That’s what I meant to type after I said screw that. I’ve had it. Thats dirty baseball. And for that prick other manager to yell. Are you serious? That adds to it.
As much as we all want it, it wont happen.
Why not? Joe needs to grow a pair of balls and have some chin music tomorrow. You need to protect your assets. I just don’t tolerate dirty baseball.
Replying with dirty baseball makes it better?
Hitting someone isn’t dirty baseball. Hitting them in the head is, but chin music doesn’t necessarily mean you hit them in the chin.
An eye for an eye. We aren’t talking about him almost breaking Josh Phelps’ arm TWICE. We’re talking a 180 million dollar investment.
Bring in Veras to face whoever did that only to see himself ejected after that hit LOL.
I missed it, what happened?
tex needs to grow up..,
Completely disagree. Gomez needs to run where he should and not put players in danger.
Teix needs to grow up? His arm almost got broken. If I insulted you, you would probably cry and throw a fit.
Yeah he shouldn’t be pissed if someone doesn’t follow the rules and puts him at risk for an injury.
Come here kid. Let me break your arm.
Gomez is known for being a hothead. He missed playing time last season because of it if I’m not mistaken. It’s a good idea to get under his skin.
I think a inside the park HR will fire up the kid more than a normal one.
So what happened at first with Gomez? And why are people calling for someone to get hit? Just wondering seeing as the game is blacked out where I am, in Iowa, even though nobody in Iowa plays Twins games.
Gomez was out of the baseline and was very, VERY close to Tex. This was teh second time it happened and Texiera barked at him and benches sorta cleared. Girardi was yelling at Gardenhire.
I dont know what happened either, i asked a couple posts ago.
If they don’t tie it this inning, should Mo pitch the 9th?
Where the hell was strike 2?
Michael Kay is a failure at life.
Sterling’s painfully worse
Wow, 8 walks and ZERO runs with RISP. The decline of the dollar has really hit new heights.
Ben, if you’re still here:
“That’s a load of shit, Matt. The ball might have beaten him but if the tag didn’t, then he’s safe. That’s how baseball works.”
That’s not how baseball works. It has never worked that way. If the ball beats you, its one of two things: either you so obviously avoided the tag that the guy in Uecker’s seats knows your safe, or you’re out. It’s been that way forever, and just because we can have instant replay and look closer does not mean we have to.
As long as the rules are equal for both teams, we can move on.
And that is a great example of why you don’t need replay–you couldn’t even tell with the replay if he was safe or out. Who needs a delay to learn nothing?
hey a pop up something new and different
show some fight yankees
Melky is now spelt M.O.N.E.Y.
And Cash is spelt S.U.C.K. How odd.
Melky should bat 3rd
Ah, Melky. Still swinging at bad pitches.
Base hits are base hits, though.
Was Mo just rapping to himself?
wow another pop up
it would be a real shame if Jeter screwed everything up by not popping out
LOL, this team does pop out a lot, don’t they?
Man, with all that’s happened in this game, I really want us to win it!
WOW really nobody to pinch-hit for Cash???? Id rather have had Berroa hit there than freakin Kevin Cash.
Yeah what happened to Cervelli? Just a day off?
How much longer can we go without a pinch hitter? Seriously.
Meat of the order, including a fired up Tex, should be up against Nathan 2 runs down. I really don’t like our chances… but a comeback would be very fitting in this game.
love the pop ups.
thank god nice job Jeter this team is awesome just awesome