May
29

Game 48 Spillover Thread

By Mike Axisa

Can the bullpen hold down the fort for two more innings?

Ben’s Correction: Just to update a prior item: The Yankees did not DFA Kevin Cash. Per Bryan Hoch, Cash had an option left. So the Yanks were able to just option him down to AAA, and he remains with the organization. Either the Yanks and Cash’s agent negotiated an option or he had one remaining. Works for me.

Posted on Friday, May 29th, 2009 at 10:53 pm in Game Threads.

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DAMN! Wanted to get that last one up to 400 posts. I think that would be a record of some sort.

JobaWockeeZ says:

I might be wrong but the game thread two days ago reached 400.

 

Nah, no way. We had a few that were around 600 last year. Before we added that unread comments plugin, each thread could handle a ton more comments.

e mills says:

where do you get the unread comments plugin?

Dunno, Ben found it. Any comments with a little interlocking NY on the right side are comments you haven’t seen yet. If it’s got a grey box, you’ve seen it.

e mills says:
 
John says:

if only you guys could create something that would allow the NY sign to stay even though we loaded the page as at times I miss some new comments when I rush to reply and then I can’t tell which ones were the ones I haven’t seen.

 
 
 
 
e mills says:

I didn’t, I have DSL and it’s slow as hell

 
 
Accent Shallow says:

Serious question: who pitches the 8th? Do they keep Aceves (who has thrown 23 pitches) in? Robertson? Coke? Tomko?

Rob H. says:

I hope that they go with Robertson and give him a shot. Girardi needs to not go to Coke all the time.

 
John says:

Coke…man, i just wish he wasn’t so HR-prone

 
Drew says:

Joba Chamberlain.
THAT. JUST. HAPPENED.

JobaWockeeZ says:

The 8th >>> every non-8th inning left in this season combined.
Obviously Joba will put 0.00 ERA and a 0.00 WHIP in teh 8th!

 
 
Kilgore Trout says:

All righties coming up probably D-Rob. I hope not veras, i don’t want to drink too much.

 
John says:

actually…how about Veras?!

 

Send Aceves back out there. No reason to take him out.

Accent Shallow says:
 
 
 

That’s why they call him Ace, baby.

I still don’t know why they call him El Paton (Big feet)

John says:

Big feet=Big…..

 
 
Biship says:

I would go with Coke, maybe get a 4 or 5 out save from Mariano if he gets into trouble

 
Some call me...tim says:

What happened to Andys back?

WTF with our strength and conditioning?!

Yoga FFS!!!

:)

I think it has more to do with Pettitte’s age than the team’s strength and conditioning.

Some call me...tim says:

I was partially facetious…our older half is gettin old!

They do need tai chi or yoga or something–too many ‘pulled’ and ’spasms’ injuries.

 
 
 
Accent Shallow says:

Lordy lordy do I hate Rafael Perez. Maybe it’s residue from the 2007 playoffs, maybe it’s that the Yankees don’t hit him, maybe it’s that he looks like a villain, or at least some sort of henchman.

kSturnz says:
Accent Shallow says:

He was warming earlier.

 
 
 
zs190 says:

I’m hoping we score a few runs here so we can use Wang, probably wishful thinking though.

JobaWockeeZ says:

Nahh I don’t think we’ll see him tonight. We’re already using Alf. We’ll probably see Coke then Mo.

 
Drew says:

Wang jusr pitched, he wont com in on one day rest.

zs190 says:

Yeah, I just remembered we used him Wednesday, maybe we’ll see him on Sunday/Monday in relief of Hughes or Joba.

John says:

or maybe he starts if Andy’s hurt

Bingo! See how these things work themselves out?

Now all the people who were screaming about Wang can relax. Watch him get Andy’s next start.

Greg G. says:

Some adages became adages for a reason: “You can never have too much pitching.”

 
 
JobaWockeeZ says:

As much as I love Wang, I still don’t think he’s ready. He’ll need a few more bullpen appearances.

Accent Shallow says:

“As much as I love Wang,”

It’s the little things like this that make me hope his stuff is back.

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John says:

Is this umpire really this inconsistent? On Gamecast a lot of pitches are being called strikes even though they are balls and a lot are being called balls even though they are in the strike zone. And he is not consistent on the calls either.

JobaWockeeZ says:

Is it just the Yankees or both teams? Haven’t watched most of the game.

John says:

i think it’s both teams but just slightly bit more against the Yanks, maybe that’s just me noticing the flaws against us more.

 
 
V says:

cbs.sportsline’s strike zone was WAY off earlier. Dunno about Gameday.

 
 
John says:

Lower back problems aren’t a good sign, especially for the the old Pettitte.

Meh, back spasms are no big deal. I get them from time to time and they’d have to be enormous to last more than a day or so.

John says:

I’m guessing the Yanks might be cautious and skip his next start.

Yeah, the Yanks are always overly cautious about these things. Plus, Wang is dying for a start.

 
 
 
Accent Shallow says:

Yeah. Back problems tend to linger, which isn’t good, especially since the Yankees depth is either pitching in the majors (Hughes) or injured (Kennedy). I’m not quite ready to put Wang back in the rotation just yet.

No, actually they don’t linger more than a few days. Remember K-Rod was taken to the HOSPITAL in a STRETCHER (what drama) last week? He was pitching again a few days later.

They give you some muscle relaxants and tell you to take it easy for a few days, and you’re good as new. Also, even on days when it happens, once you get moving you can usually loosen up. It’s really no biggie, but they might give Wanger his next start just to be conservative about it, which the Yanks usually are.

Accent Shallow says:

Oh, we know it’s back spasms?

I was under the impression it was an as-of-yet unidentified back issue. That’s good to know.

 
 
 
Kilgore Trout says:

my lower back is killing me and i’m still going to shoot an 85 tomorrow morning.

Greg G. says:

Too bad you’ll be bowling.

(I’m here ’til Tuesday. Try the veal.)

steve (different one) says:
 
 
 
 
Accent Shallow says:

Aceves letting Francisco know . . . that he doesn’t necessarily have his breaking ball?

Greg G. says:

That was a purpose pitch. It’s purpose: Make Aceves look silly.

 
 

Aceves is dah flavah of dah munth. Jobah will be in dah pen where he bahlongs by dah Awl-Stawr break.

V says:

He actually made a bet with Sweeney Murti today that Joba would be in the pen to stay by August 1st.

I heard it. I guess he got 5 hours of radio out of his dreamworld.

 
 
 
Drew says:
 
Greg G. says:

I loves me my Ace.

 
Accent Shallow says:

Ball one to Shoppach was pretty clearly a strike, although that’s immaterial now.

Mo’s gonna earn his money tonight: he gets Choo, Cabrera, and Sizemore. At least they all hit lefty.

 
JeffG says:

Ace just seems to have the guile of d’ Moose.

 
e mills says:

looks like the Lakers in the finals :(

 
Drew says:
Drew says:

or… soft grounder to the 2nd basemen..

 
 
e mills says:

Tex taking Rafael yard if he stays in for him

e mills says:
Greg G. says:

OK, you too…no more predictions for you!

 
 
 
Accent Shallow says:

Here’s Perez. He definitely looks like some sort of supervillain’s sidekick.

Accent Shallow says:

Nah, Perez looks sinister.

I don’t think one can be both gay and sinister.

 
 
 
 
Drew says:

So.. I know spell bust; W.I.E.T.E.R.S.

Drew says:
 
 
Accent Shallow says:

Yup, still hate this guy.

 
Dorian says:

This is the optimal usage of Ace. The Set-up man and the closer are overrated unless the closer is Mo or Lidge from last year. In the role that Ace is currently in, Girardi can bring him in whenever the game is in doubt. There is no reason to pigeon hole him into the seventh or the eighth because neither of those innings may be when the game is on the line.

I called Max Kellerman about this once and he and I both agreed that this would be the way to get the most out of Joba but due to his arm issues that he should be a STARTER. The Relief Ace (as it was used in the 70’s) is one of the most important roles on a team, if it is filled by someone who is excellent. Ace, so far, has proven to be excellent.

Drew says:

Well, if you and Max Kellerman say it’s right, count me in!

 

I miss Max. The Mad Scientist of Baseball. He never took himself too seriously, unlike some other hosts.

 
 
Accent Shallow says:

First pitch looked like a breaking ball (although it clearly was not). Am unsure if this is a good sign or not.

 
V says:
 
Matt-Pitt says:
 
Drew says:

Typical hit off mo. We got this.

 
Greg G. says:

Cabrera, please sit down.

 
gxpanos says:

Mo still low on the velo. K’ing dudes, though, I guess.

Matt-Pitt says:

I’m watching YES and following gameday… Gameday has him at 91-92

 

Truth is that Mo is old and coming off shoulder surgery. Such is life. It sucks.

JobaWockeeZ says:

And he’s still godly. I don’t know why people think velocity is everything. Even if Mo’s velocity is down, he’s still doing well.

As long as he has that control, he’ll be fine.

 
 
 
Nickel says:

I dunno. I tend to be a tad skeptical of the accurateness of the YES gun.

Greg G. says:
gxpanos says:

You’re right, the YES gun is awful. But it was especially bad today, it was calling 92 mph 84! So it’s usually not that off, so I thought he was 89 or something. But Gameday’s got him at normal 91-92, so I jumped the gun.

 
 
 
 
Accent Shallow says:

Wow, did Ass-dribble look silly on that. Even Melky 2008 doesn’t swing at that pitch.

(Any idea why Venezualan parents would name their son after a Carthaginian general?)

 
Kilgore Trout says:

Gameday 91::Yes 84 wtf?

 
 
gxpanos says:

If Mo saves this, do he and Pettitte tie that starter/closer record thingee?

I do believe so. One more out to go though.

 
e mills says:

didn’t they already break it?

e mills says:

well they already tied it*

 
 
Joe Mac says:

Think they have the record now, anybody know how many?

like 56?

 
 
e mills says:

that cutter looks great (so far)

 
Greg G. says:

Sizemore, sit down next to Cabrera, please.

 
Accent Shallow says:

Sizemore cannot hit Mo. 0-7, 5Ks.

 
Matt-Pitt says:

These pitches look like hard hard sliders… So much movement.

 
Accent Shallow says:
 
JobaWockeeZ says:

And we take charge of first place by ourselves.

 
Matt-Pitt says:

Nice win. Do it again tomorrow. Welcome to first place, New York Yankees.

Nickel says:

“First place New York Yankees.” I almost forgot how nice that sounds.

 
 
Greg G. says:

Good game. Been fun, folks.

 
John says:

It’s so fresh up here…let’s stay here for the rest of the year.

JobaWockeeZ says:

I hope we will. Funny thing is the Yankees aren’t even 100 percent. Bruney, Marte, Molina and Nady aren’t back yet. Wang isn’t 100 percent ready and if we can get all of them back we should dominate.

John says:

on top of that, A-rod missed a month, Posada missed 3 weeks, and our pen is still shaky. Also, Melky is currently hurt and Swish and Matsui have struggled mightily for a while too.

 
 
 
V says:

Aceves was awesome. Really.

John says:
 
 
V says:

Now, in Lee’s 6 losses, his team has scored a TOTAL of 7 runs. Damn.

 
Drew says:

Street just got the save.. He’s got the wrong pinstripes on though.

 
alan says:

Hm, got home in time to see the win.
Nice job by Aceves, he’s the man!

 
Quikksand says:

AWESOME JOB YANKEES, 1st place.

 
Brendan says:

Did anyone just see Joe Magrane’s Top 5 Starters? They put Lester at #5 with his numbers this year!!!! 6+ ERA? This channel is a joke.

Brendan says:

Oh and then they say he also has the best mechanics…

Dorian says:

My top 5 would be like so:

1) The guy you want to start game 7
2) Uber Talented Strikeout Artist
3) Dominant Innings Eater
4) Young Starter coming into his own
5) Veteran Arm

1) Roy Halladay
2) Johan Santana
3) C.C. Sabathia
4) Zach Grienke
5) John Lackey

Brendan says:

Even though you make perfect sense, I think the problem with the MLB Network is that none of them play for the Red Sox.

 
 
 
 
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