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Game 50 Spillover Thread
ByA run or five would be nice.
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Good luck with this thread I feel it
Well played by Gardner. He’s on a roll.
Is that an error on Gardner’s part?
Never mind, guess not.
What the hell, Gardner.
Let’s see if Hughes can pick him up.
I want leche.
Gardner WTF. that was a H.U.Y.A. play. Head Up Your Ass.
yikes, this game has been really painful
an extra 10 pitches for hughes now
There goes the error streak. Or, at least it should go. Gardner on a roll. The wind looks like it’s damn devilish out there.
shize
that was a good pitch too.
I cant believe that Gardner did that, fuck.
Cisco is gonna get the rally started in top 6
Dennis Eckersley usage of the word sloppy is annoying.
Come on Hughes.
Is there a way to find out our record when we’re on TBS…for some reason I don’t think it’s very good.
I’d love him to get out of this unscathed…
Possible, but I’m skeptical. Here’s hoping.
If not at least we got Tomko going. That should help.
SHit, this sucks. Maybe Wang takes over phil’s next start.
Why? Hughes has been good. Wang isn’t close to being back to form.
I know, but we’ve got to do somethin with the Wangster. If Petitte does make his next start, we could always option Phil and bring him back up when we need him
We’re giving him innings in the bullpen. However that is a terrible way to do it seeing as he should be in AAA doing a rehab stint. But I don’t think giving him a spot in the rotation is wise yet.
Why?
Phil was amazing last start. He’s a see-saw. He’ll be brilliant one game and then absolutely atrocious the next. There’s no stopping it. It’s one of the constant things in life. Death, Taxes, and the Phil Hughes See-Saw Effect…
How the hell is 3 runs atrocious? He’s been pitching good today. Patience to young pitchers is virtually nonexistent to Yankee fans.
He’s up against a team of scrubs with literally all 3 of their superstar power hitters hurt and out of the line up. He’s given up 3 runs (So far) on 5 hits (2 for extra bases), walked a batter, and hit 2 batters. Maybe not “atrocious” but he doesn’t look good that’s for sure. The offensive not doing anything certainly makes everything in-total look worse as well…
I’m pretty sure he’s given up 4 runs to a minor league team. that does not make him a bad, inconsistent pitcher. It means he is still learning, and oh god, human. CCs given up 4+ runs, he must be inconsistent too.
That’s part of having young kids in the rotation. Andy Pettitte’s a see-saw too.
???
when was the last game he gave up more then 3 runs, before tonight.
Hopefully Hughes walks this guy so he can have a challenge…
Wow look at that strike to ball ratio
Why not Wang right now? I mean, Tomko’s just as liable to give up a bunch of runs.
And Wang isn’t?
Um, yeah, he is. Thus “just as liable.” But the Yankees don’t have a vested interest in getting Tomko innings, as he is not in any future plans. If Girardi brings in Wang and he gets bombed, Joe can say, with merit, “did I have any better options?” And the answer would pretty much be no. And if Wang pitches well, it’s more important than just a good relief appearance by the BP; it’s a step forward for a possible #2 starter.
The problem is…everybody is inconsistent. You can say that about anybody. Hughes, Wang, Joba, Burnett, literally any bullpen reliever…it’s all a crapshoot…
Young pitcher, injury, young pitcher, always been inconsistent, and inconsistent by their nature.
You DO realize that young pitchers and bullpen arms are, by their nature, inconsistent?
Or are you just being a fool, as always?
Why are you crying about my post?? The two above me were the ones arguing about “who was better (or worse) to put in”. They didn’t understand that everybody is inconsistent so I told them…and that makes me a “fool”???
HAha, you’re digging deep buddy. I love getting you riled up though. It puts a smile on my face and makes my day.
Ironic though how YOU look like the fool immediately after trying to brand me one for no reason though isn’t it?
:snort:
When was the last time you posted while the Yankees were winning?
Umm…the last time I posted.
All he needs is a ground ball, now.
Big out right there.
2nd out this inning….oh wait.
thanks, Kim!!!
Can someone tell me why Tomko and not Wang?
Wang seems to have caught the mysterious Britton syndrome.
Wang being saved in case he’s needed for Pettitte’s start.
They probably don’t want to bring him in in the middle of an inning since he’s never done it before.
I think because they haven’t used Tomko in a while. But he’s wasting a spot, I for one would like him gone.
Wang ass must really hurt right now.
Joe said theyre saving Wangger in case AP cant go
even if it had been scored an error, it wouldn’t break the streak: Gritner isn’t a True Yankee.
i love the yankees as much as the next guy but this notion of one player being a “true yankee” more than another is absolute horseshit.
he wears the uniform – he’s a yankee. get over it.
i’m pretty sure that was a joke.
my sentiment still stands regardless. the idea of someone being a “true yankee” is absolute garbage.
I missed the play – what did Gardner do (or not do)?
Soft line drive right at him, initially jumped in, before turning around. Went over his head for a “double”
Come on, don’t walk Choo.
come on phillip, we need a GIDP
Well there is one of those runs that should not have happened but will look like it is the pitchers fault.
Phil still looks good, if he had any offensive support, would be no big deal.
I’m not to upset with the way he pitched. Good strike to ball, and he is giving us a chance to come back. I’ll say a prayer for the bullpen.
too*
Come on yankees we need sum runs.
Send him out to start the 6th, right?
95 pitches, I doubt they will.
I don’t want to see Tomko so hopefully.
I hope not. He can’t throw the cutter for strikes and he doesn’t seem to have the feel for the curveball today, you can’t pitch with just the fastball and that’s about all he has today. At 95 pitches, probably better to just pull him.
I think his 6 strikeouts beg to differ. i don’t think you could go 5 innings with just a fastball.
Most of those were the first time through the order when they weren’t sitting on the fastball yet.
at least Melky’s back tomorrow…i hope he’s still hot
Gardy is not a starter
Gardner isnt a starter because he misplayed a ball? Remember how melky got hurt- he misplayed a ball
No, I cant even watch so I dont know how bad it was but you can tell by his stats he is a 4th OFer
he has a higher OBP and SLG then Ellsbury this year
and OPS
personally, and nothing against Brett, but i just don’t see the gritster being a major leaguer. He can’t hit for any power whatsoever and can’t sustain a real good OBP, plus he doesn’t have a great arm in center
He has an adequate arm for a CF. He’s not Ichiro, but he’s not Damon or Juan Pierre, either.
he has a better OBP then Ellsbury
He’s got an OPS of like .725 which isn’t horrible for a center fielder. He’s still learning major league pitching
How is a hump like Pavano doing this to us!! Twice!! First time I chalked it up to no one seeing him pitch for 20 years, but we have seen him!! and he is shutting us down!!
if we have one more inning of Carl Pavano dominance, i will die a lot inside
Does the offense not work on Sundays?
Terrible call.
MOTHERFUCKER, this is brutal
jeter safe by a mile
wtf safe
Wow, I’ve been watching that game on TBS (who obviously know nothing about Hughes and are talking about how he needs to add a breaking ball and a sinker). It’s just hilarious to come here and watch all the comments complaining about Hughes.
I mean he’s been sitting 93-95 the entire game and really hasn’t made any mistakes outside of hitting a few guys. Both of the doubles hit against him you can’t really fault seeing how one was just a great job by the hitter keeping it fair and the other one was on Gardner. Add that in with the bloop single and he just hasn’t had any luck this game. The guy looks really healthy and just doesn’t seem to have the location on his curve, it happens
no one’s complained besides Axl
I don’t recall “complaining” about anything. I never once sobbed and asked WHY anything was happening. I wrote how I didn’t think Hughes was pitching well and then everybody grabbed their boxes of tissues and went on the crusade against per usual…
ok but only your comments were the most negative
I’m encouraged by the process. Would have liked better results, but those will come if he repeats the process.
On TBS he’s been hitting 93-95?
he is.
Here comes “The Wanger”…
Hes not sitting 93-95 lol Hes at 91-93.
it’s whatever their ‘talking points’ the announcers have. it’s just like Kay and his stupid change up discussions every game.
he should throw a change up. why doesnt he throw a change up Al? it’s such an effective pitch. Al why havent they taught him the change up? You threw it right???
Pavano is such a dick
Thats bull shit it would of been 1 and 2 wit tex at the plate.
gone babiiiiiiii
Umps suck ass.
Right back in it.
wasn’t that Tex signing a bad idea?
Should be 4-3…
Tex message to RF.
YEAH Tex shoulda been a three run jack.
Should be 4-3!!!!!!!!
Finally! This should have been a 3 run one though…
shoulda been 4-3.
That helps
It would have fucking been 3-4 thank you you dick of an umpire.
great blast Teix.
THank Mo!!!! it’s about time
Wow hot hot is Tex?
how hot*
Guess Zambrano knew what he was doing throwing that bald headed fuck of an ump. Umps should be fined $5000 every time they blow a call as bad as that was on Jeter.
or atleast acknowledge they blew a call, like the NFL and NBA does, MLB is the only one who doesnt.
the only problem is second base and the phantom tag, there’s what 3-5 of those every game
We’re gonna cheeeeeeeeeer Teixeira….
Also, why don’t managers have instant replay on a play like Jeter’s? It’s so fucking stupid. Give the managers only 1 challenge each, if Bud’s so worried about how long it takes. As if baseball is a game where time is of the essence. Games take 3 hours–it’s not, and shouldnt be, a game that goes fast. So asinine.
they should just have machines incapable of making mistakes call games.
haha
I imagine you’ll see the Yankees given the next close one
If that’s sarcastic, I’d reply that as soon as the technology exists I’d be in favor of it.
If it’s not sarcastic, then I like the way you think.
Velocity a little bit better? I think that’s the YES gun playing tricks. I heard his velocity is around the same.
Good time for CMW
Hooray for the call to wang
Wang!!
so much for saving him. Side session on the mound?
after that blown call, I hope we win!
Nasty CMW.
Mr. Wang !!! !!!
wang hitting 93 on the gun…does that mean hes hitting 93 or hughes was actually at like 91-92 all game instead of 93-95? hopefully the gun is right.
if you’re talkin aboout the Yes gun, its always wrong
the tbs gun
Gameday shows 93 for CMW and like 93 for Hughes and Gameday is far more accurate than YES
something inside of me wants wang to be bad, so Hughes stays in the rotation.
He’s going to the rotation next year. And I still do not understand why people want Yankees to do bad. Seriously be a fan and cheer for the players no matter how bad they play.
nice start
yea Wang! First batter down. Drops ERA by like .6
his ERA is under 20!!
Vintage CMW stuff right there, 93 on his shoe strings.
looks like his velocity is sitting around 92-93
wow im liking what im seen so far for wang.
Mike Axisa says:
May 31st, 2009 at 2:16 pm
They probably don’t want to bring him in in the middle of an inning since he’s never done it before.
Good call Mike !!!
94??? I like it
He has officially broken 20 with his era.
Hughes pitch solid, the results may not show it but he pitch solid plus, the key was 1 BB and the 6 K’s and the terrific K-BB ratio.
CMW wants his job back.
I’m liking this new K machine Wang.
CMW pounding the zone
Wang is throwing all fastballs…it’s working…but where’s the sinker!!!
Well, the sink is when the ball is tailing down at the end…like when he struck out the 2 batters on the sinker. yes, those were sinkers.
This is the problem with idiots who watch the game via Gameday and think they know what’s going on.
Those ‘fastballs’ are sinkers.
there are also people who follow Gameday and realize that everything is simply done by a computer that assumes everyone’s sinker is the same and thus the person realizes that the computer isn’t 100% right. There are idiots and then there is me.
Wang is looking great again today, nice sinking action, good velocity.
These TBS announcers make me want to rock slowly in a corner and weep.
God TBS is talking about Joba to the pen i want to break something.
Wow, still?
What does Joba have to do with this game????!
because obviously joba should be our new long man out of the pen
TBS listens to the talk shows and reads ESPN so they want to act smart by saying Joba should go to the bullpen. Frankly their idiots and I am not surprised.
Apparently he’s needs to pitch the 8th inning.
maybe they have nothing else to talk about?
this is why baseball rating are down!
Well somebody has to go to the pen lol
Wang’s touching 94 – a good sign if his velocity is coming back.
Hughes’ pitch f/x data for this game:
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....evDate=531
Average fastball velocity of 92.95. Yowza.
nice play by cervelli
LOL nice steal. Man he was annoying.
i hate pitchouts, just get the batter out wangster
that works, too
cervelli the backup catcher next year? methinks so.
he better be. I’m not exactly a jose molina fan
Molina is a great defensive catcher. He’s basically Cervelli without speed.
and much older and a little less hitting skills
A little less hitting skills? Cervelli hit .190 in AA. He might be doing well in the majors but still I don’t think he’ll keep hitting this good.
?
Cervelli is OPSing .642
He is and he has the final HR at OYS.
Hell yes
Wang looking good.
i love cano dont get me wrong but seeing a few pitches before would not kill him
God i hate Pavano
I love the Hughes start. Had confidence in the FB, threw some good curves. If he didn’t hit Choo 0-2, and Gardner makes that stupid play in center, he might have a line closer to 6 IP 2 ER.
Cleveland was pesky fouling balls off too.
I agree, learning to put batters away is a skill that takes years to learn in the majors. You have to be happy the way he looked
I see your points, but personally i dont like it when people start saying if A didnt happen, and if B didnt happen, C also happened too- because A-B-C did happen
That was one of the most amazing things I’ve ever seen a catcher do. Short-hopped the pitch and threw a strike to second to get the basestealer, wonderful
LOL matsui infield pitch? really?
err hit. Gah I stink
haha…matsui gets an infield hi..never thought it was possible.
Why can’t we hit American Idle?
He’s throwing quality strikes, what do you want? Anyway, they have two runs.
NNNOOO
Haha, sorry?
There was a reason they gave him 40 million, as painful as it is to say it, he’s a decent pitcher (When healthy of course)
Yep, that’s what i said in the first thread…it’s sad, but that is why we wanted him.
it’s why Cincinnati and Boston offered him more money too, it wasnt his stuff, it was always his heath
come on swisher at least a double right here.
Please Swishah!
How have we only seen 78 pitches?!?
he’s throwing a lot of strikes.
Is Pavano wearing #44 to taunt the Yankees? (4 years, 40 mil?)
What a dick!
Pavano’s contract was actually 4 years at 39.95MM. I believe he fired his agent because he didn’t get him the 40MM.
“Swish the Dish”
dammit swisherrrrrrrrr
I’m sorry Swish, but I miss Nady.
A week or two of seeing Nady ground out on the second pitch of the AB will fix that for ya.
Yeah that 14BB : 48K in 60 games in NY was really impressive
Gardy HR here…
if only the pitchers mound had a fence
Swisher just looks lost right now.
He crushed one to CF just yesterday.
wow that would of been a double.
shit
damn garnder crushes it. tough break though.
Yeah, can’t catch a break today. Gardner catches that ball in center, Ump doesn’t miss that call at 2b…could be tied right now.
If he gets a little elevation on that it could have left the park. I’ve never seen him hit one that hard
We should drop a bunt for a hit on Pavano, make him move off the mound and put his fragile buttocks in Jeopardy.
his buttocks are only fragile when money isn’t on the line.
Just the Yankees luck. Gardner hits a ball hard…..right at somebody. Dammit!
we’ll have these unlucky games once in a while but it just hurts more that it came against Mr.DL
This guy truly aggravates me.
this game is gettin pathetic
Wait until either Pavano starts to tire (which usually only takes about 80 pitchers) or us to get into their bullpen
Their bullpen hasn’t been great so taking Pavano out of the game would be a great help.
I have a feeling that next inning is going to be good for us. I have a good feeling the top of the order is going to rape Pavano.
Top of the lineup in the 8th.
Well Cervelli and then the top of the lineup
Unless the pinch hit Posada which wouldn’t surprise me at all
Anybody else think Wang’s problem is mostly in the stretch? I mean he started that last Cleveland game with a perfect inning and then started getting killed after Hafner hit a little squib single to third. He didn’t look good out of the stretch last inning either
When you’re as bad as he was, everything’s a problem.
Wang has historically had problems out of the stretch, but his results this year are so bad that they can’t be attributed solely to that. Sure, that might have had a small effect, but he just wasn’t ready for the season, due to not working out his legs.
every pitcher has problems out of the stretch, you dont give up solo HRs as your only runs all season long
Even in his perfect inning, his stuff wasn’t great.
With the issues he had, you have to pay less attention to the results than the stuff.
I think his stuff looked pretty good. What didn’t you like?
Hasn’t he always had a bit of an issue with pitching out of the stretch, though?
I hate it when some things don’t go our way (Jeter’s out) or we make dumb little mistakes (Gardy misplayed the liner) and we are down by 4-2, it irritates me to think that we could have been tied!
Meanwhile, Wang lookin’ sharp. May be time for Hughes to work on some things.
The yankees should be ashamed if Pavano gets a W off of them.
Pavano has been sharp. It’s not some rookie crappy pitcher with an ERA above 5.
he does have an ERA above 5 though..maybe not anymore. sad.
nope…5.17
But he’s been pretty good is his last few starts in May
Yeah…he’s throwing lots of strikes. Look at his game log for may…no stinkers on there. Two mediocre starts, a couple decent ones, and a couple very good ones.
There’s a reason there was a multi-team bidding war for this guy.
Well statistically we score most of our runs in the 7th inning this year…and we scored nothing then. It’s the 8th inning and Pavano pretty much dominated our team while Hughes pitched ok against the worst team in the AL WITHOUT their 3 best hitters…
Just have to hope the offense comes alive once (if) Pavano finally gets taken out.
that’s like the 4th time you’ve said that the Indians are without their 3 best hitter! Every team can win on any given day!!! It’s not like the rest can’t hit at all! They just got their hits against us today.
Heh, I have to give it to SoSH, their nickname for Asdrubal Cabrera is “Ass-Dribble”; that’s pretty damn hilarious.
Ass-dribble=Pavano also
SoSH?
Sons of Sam Horn. Think of it as the Red Sox equivalent to NoMaas.
With less racial slurs, but more whining.
Much, much more whining.
Sons of Sam Horn. it’s a red sox blog.
Wang’s mowin em down
of course, right when i say that
think you gotta PH Jorge coming up
If Swish really wants to help he’ll get hit by a pitch and then charge the mound and knock Pavano on his glass ass.
maybe Swish should take one for the team. He might get fined but maybe Hal will slip him a little cash under the table, whatever the fine and suspension cost Swish.
then he will be a fan favorite again.
Wang at 92-93. On the way back, perhaps?
Francisco with the single. Let’s see Wanger out of the stretch.
Wang’s ERA is down to 17.76
and his average against is down to .492!
I never realized his BAA was that high.
WOW. I know he didn’t get him, but Cervelli’s transfer was ridunk!
What a horseshit single.
Unlucky.
At the very least, his pitches are down adn the hits are ground balls. He hasn’t allowed a fly ball yet.
crap, gotta get outta this wangster
V, you said you didn’t like the way wang was pitching. what didn’t you like?
Everything’s been down, and velocity up a tick. I’m optimistic about him right now.
Choo scares me…
Tons of groundballs, love it.
nice job against choo choo, pitches were all down
I wonder what excuse are they going to use to keep Wang in the pen now.
Cuz hes been affective
because throwing 2 good innings is still different then throwing 5-6-7 good innings
That’s 4 scoreless going back to his last relief appearance and he looks like the old Wang.
Hughes is pitching kinda well
31 pitches, that’s not too bad, Wang out there for 8th too?
I think you pull him, because you want to make sure he can throw 5-6 innings on Wednesday if he has to.
I don’t see why people think Danica Patrick is so hot, I don’t find anything special in her
+1
Agree 100%. Now Maria Verchenova is special
i bet its because of her axe wound.
she is
She’s an attractive woman, and really good at something too. Maybe not among the best…but still really good, and pretty.
come on posada base hit right here.
You think Moose is sitting at home, in PA watching this game and going..”What the Fuck?!? I hate this guy! Hit this guy.”
I think that’s what every Yankee fan is doing
yea, he’s probably ready to come there and beat him up personally
LOL Jeter!
Bush-league move by Captain Intangibles.
better give em that call!
well that was effective. Has to be the biggest disappointment when a pinch hitter just looks at a pitch – just ineffective.
Jeet’s made me smile.
So . . . Wang gets the start on the next turn through the rotation? Or does he need more outings to prove he’s good?
nice infield hit for jeter come on damon
come on Damon!
wowwwww eric wedge. you sir, are a dumbass.
at this point you give the finger to the match ups. pavano was rolling.
Going to the Cleveland bullpen with five outs to go, down two runs, and the starting pitcher pitching well? Keith Law just blew all the blood vessels in his brain.